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Stop being jerks to each other please. Stop talking about seperate TL sites, BW vs SC2, or which fan base is retarded/ignorant/elitist/old/constipated. Don't post in the thread unless you take the time to read the situation. Don't post in the thread to let others know that they should have been banned longer. Don't post in the thread to claim that kespa is the evil empire based on you reading the translated musing of a random Chinese blogger. Honestly people, this is common sense. I hate the fact that I have to moderate to the lowest common denominator. Make my job easier please. | ||
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
On September 29 2011 04:17 mitthrawn wrote: So KeSPA controls everything and everyone? I don't get why people think this would be good for BW. Seriously. maybe because they already controlled everything and everyone. That's what happens when the organization literally consists of the sponsors that are behind the teams | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On September 29 2011 04:17 mitthrawn wrote: So KeSPA controls everything and everyone? I don't get why people think this would be good for BW. Seriously. Why would it be bad? It's more efficient having a centralized structure that does the management side of things and finds and deals with sponsors than having teams depend directly on their parent corporation/company. | ||
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Nomad-
119 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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hellbound
United Kingdom2242 Posts
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zlosynus
Czech Republic339 Posts
On September 28 2011 04:22 eton7410 wrote: New teams will be formed in October and Proleague will start in November. Sad, sad news for me  , I am going to Korea in the end of October.On the other hand, I am quite happy that they got some new sponsors. I wonder who it is. | ||
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hellbound
United Kingdom2242 Posts
On September 29 2011 05:20 Nomad- wrote: Brood war needs to just hurry up and die already.. I assume you have a "-" in your name because your original account was banned. Time to start thinking about new designs... | ||
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bearbuddy
3442 Posts
On September 29 2011 05:21 zlosynus wrote: Sad, sad news for me , I am going to Korea in the end of October.On the other hand, I am quite happy that they got some new sponsors. I wonder who it is. Tough luck, heh. It is a pretty long | ||
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sh4w
United States713 Posts
Kespa pretty much already controls everything...and teams not having to disband when they lose their only sponsor is just crappy. | ||
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mitthrawn
Germany443 Posts
On September 29 2011 04:18 hmmm... wrote: i think it was a bad idea to put this in the community headlines.... too many ignorant sc2 people who have no idea what they are talking about. I stopped reading right there. If a BW guy says anything about the "other game" scene it is all good. The other way around people get called ignorant. Yeah right. BW guys need to stop being hypocritical and get real for a start. PS: I played SC vanilla, so nobody dares to call me ignorant or "new". | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On September 28 2011 04:35 Chill wrote: So the players' association also manages the players? That's strange to say the least. and the teams conflict of interest has no meaning for Kespa :lol | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On September 29 2011 04:18 hmmm... wrote: i think it was a bad idea to put this in the community headlines.... Yeah, definitely a bad idea to put this news out to the general community... would be better if future headlines like this would not be mentioned at all... maybe the news should just be distributed to the hardcore BW fans via PM so everyone can circle-jerk each other more effectively and there's nothing of that dreaded negativity or *gasp* criticism here. *shudders* C'mon man. You can't just isolate yourself and ignore the outside world. Either you embrace the larger community or you wither off and die because there's no new blood. | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
It would seem that this will be great for the scene as a whole, and I understand that. Especially given that the industry now has more support because Kespa will be owning the players in essence. Competition will be tougher and more strict, but I can just wonder how this regulation will affect the players. Hopefully all turns out for the better. | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On September 29 2011 03:31 L_Master wrote: .... KeSPA isn't running the teams themselves, setting line-ups, etc. That's what the coaches are there for. And Kespa are the sponsors of the teams, the teams are paying the coaches, sooo.... Kespa also has control over the coaches and lineups, if they choose to do so. Fuck, if the president of Kespa thinks SK Telecom should send out Fantasy instead of ssak because it'll be better for the ratings - how the fuck is one of the coaches who's basically employed by Kespa to say no to that? Of course it's just hypothetical, but as Chill has pointed out, these are very real concerns that come along with one organisation controlling every aspect of a league. Hence why pretty much every other pro league in the world has independent teams not under the control of a single governing body controlling sponsors, teams, right down to individual players. The large majority of the TL community is voicing their concerns here, and with good reason. | ||
2Pacalypse-
Croatia9547 Posts
On September 29 2011 05:48 Bobster wrote: Yeah, definitely a bad idea to put this news out to the general community... would be better if future headlines like this would not be mentioned at all... maybe the news should just be distributed to the hardcore BW fans via PM so everyone can circle-jerk each other more effectively and there's nothing of that dreaded negativity or *gasp* criticism here. *shudders* C'mon man. You can't just isolate yourself and ignore the outside world. Either you embrace the larger community or you wither off and die because there's no new blood. We can take the negativity and criticism. What we're tired of is ignorance and inability to read (although I agree this shouldn't be generalized to exclusively SC2 population as I'm quite sure even some of the BW fans posses these characteristics). | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On September 29 2011 06:03 Bobster wrote: And Kespa are the sponsors of the teams, the teams are paying the coaches, sooo.... Kespa also has control over the coaches and lineups, if they choose to do so. Fuck, if the president of Kespa thinks SK Telecom should send out Fantasy instead of ssak because it'll be better for the ratings - how the fuck is one of the coaches who's basically employed by Kespa to say no to that? Of course it's just hypothetical, but as Chill has pointed out, these are very real concerns that come along with one organisation controlling every aspect of a league. Hence why pretty much every other pro league in the world has independent teams not under the control of a single governing body controlling sponsors, teams, right down to individual players. The large majority of the TL community is voicing their concerns here, and with good reason. It's pretty obvious from your Fantasy-Ssak example that you either didn't read or didn't understand the entire OP. Neither did you read the last few pages of the thread. So stop spouting nonsense. | ||
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
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baby elephant
273 Posts
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Daozzt
United States1263 Posts
On September 29 2011 05:48 Bobster wrote: Yeah, definitely a bad idea to put this news out to the general community... would be better if future headlines like this would not be mentioned at all... maybe the news should just be distributed to the hardcore BW fans via PM so everyone can circle-jerk each other more effectively and there's nothing of that dreaded negativity or *gasp* criticism here. *shudders* C'mon man. You can't just isolate yourself and ignore the outside world. Either you embrace the larger community or you wither off and die because there's no new blood. The point is that SC2 players don't even care about BW, so when they see BW threads in the news section, they will pop in to troll or post a snide comment. Honestly, BW news should just be posted in the BW forums, because the people who do care about the game will read the BW section anyways. Your dumb remark at the end of your post is exactly what I'm talking about. | ||
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