EPTThen again, that does not mean it's totally useless. I remember there was a game of Stork vs. (some zerg) in a GomTV game which Stork made a Scout. It wasn't that Stork was trying to humiliate him; it was because Stork got all-in rushed and Scout was the best thing he could make. It was very effectively made, as it killed tons of drones and made the zerg make a lot of aa.
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Then again, that does not mean it's totally useless. I remember there was a game of Stork vs. (some zerg) in a GomTV game which Stork made a Scout. It wasn't that Stork was trying to humiliate him; it was because Stork got all-in rushed and Scout was the best thing he could make. It was very effectively made, as it killed tons of drones and made the zerg make a lot of aa. | ||
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
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Yurie
11964 Posts
On May 01 2011 08:36 Turgid wrote: Have there been any uses of lockdown outside of TvT? Btw I think it's pretty funny that the archive of pro games is now so deep that you can find pretty much anything used. | ||
ArvickHero
10387 Posts
Ghosts.. had some uses in TvZ for nuking (a game on Monte Cristo recently), and in TvT they are good in long-game-low-econ situations. Also Ghosts saw some small popularity in TvP some months ago.. like Ruby used them to great effect against Jangbi. Ghosts imo are too underused, Ghost-mech play will be the next revolution in TvP ;o Dark Archons show up in PvP sometimes and are really good for crippling the other army's HTs or mind controlling in low-econ situations. In PvZ they show up sometimes, for feedback or maelstrom.. and Jaehoon made a DA once in PvT to mindcontrol a vessel (............) Wraiths are pretty common in TvT and 2port in TvZ happens every so often. Sometimes a surprise/desperation counter to Carriers (or Hiya uses them to harass..) Valks show up in TvTs when there's too many Wraiths on the other side.. and there's the Valkionic timing push which rapes Muta openings in TvZ. Pretty useless in TvP lol Devourers are pretty rare, but they are seen most in ZvZ hive-play. ZvT they are used to help fight BCs and in ZvP they come into play if Protoss goes for Corsair-Carrier-Reaver. Queens we already know what they can do, but to reiterate mainly used for Broodlings in ZvT and ZvP, and Ensnare in ZvZ. Sometimes ensnare is used in ZvT and ZvP, but its not that good.. and in lategame ZvZ Queens can broodling key Lurkers/Defilers/Ultras. Infested Terran is imba vP ^^ think that's all the "rarely used" units in BW lol | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
 ) are probably the least used units in the game | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
Valks vs carriers is just one of those theory craft things that doesn't work in practice, they suck and hardly fire when interceptors are on the screen. Plus they are very expensive units that get immediately killed. | ||
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nitdkim
1264 Posts
On May 01 2011 02:00 radialis wrote: lol completely forgot about infested terrans. command centres are infested all the time but infested terrans are so rarely used. i think i've only ever seen them in PvZ on holy world lol huh...? it's physically impossible to get infested terrans in pvz. there ain't command centers to infest... am I missing something? | ||
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
Lol, of course. don't know how I forgot about that one. I'll definitely check out the other games someone else listed though, sounds like fun times. | ||
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prototype.
Canada4215 Posts
On May 01 2011 09:10 nitdkim wrote: huh...? it's physically impossible to get infested terrans in pvz. there ain't command centers to infest... am I missing something? Look up the map "holy world" I think it was zero that used infested terran on that map. | ||
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Soap
Brazil1546 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On May 01 2011 08:45 phosphorylation wrote: How about 4-5 valks to "soften" the interceptors and the rest goliaths to clean them up? The reason valkyries arent really used is because once the map gets filled out with sprites they wont fire, and this can happen quite frequently, leaving you with some 3 supply units that cant even shoot | ||
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5unrise
New Zealand646 Posts
For protoss the scout is the single most unused unit hands down, nothing else comes close. Although some amateur did beat Gorush in an Iccup game using the stove.. so. Dark Archons are used in PvP to feedback high templars and in PvZ for maelstrom. For Terran I think the most unused units are ghosts and nukes. There is the occasional instances of lock-downs, but they are rare. Wraiths are used in TvZ (2 port wraiths), TvT as hard counter to BCs, and the occasional hard counter to shuttle harass in TvP. Valkyries are used in TvZ and TvT. | ||
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Sephy90
United States1785 Posts
Even though we don't see certain units, they still get used more than Scouts and Ghosts. I would absolutely love to see those units used more but Scouts are too expensive and I'm not too sure about Ghosts. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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Geovu
Estonia1344 Posts
Would this have been a situation where scouts would be useful? Basically Flash went mass drop with tanks and vultures. I would think that building 1-2 scouts (Best was going for Arbiters, so he had a Stargate anyways) would greatly put a deterrence on the drop harass and unlike corsairs, would be able to to fire upon the ground units as well, forcing goliaths which would be less useful for Flash at that stage of the game. Thoughts? edit: On May 01 2011 11:14 arb wrote: The reason valkyries arent really used is because once the map gets filled out with sprites they wont fire, and this can happen quite frequently, leaving you with some 3 supply units that cant even shoot Is there a reason Blizzard never patched this? | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
The Z went for a three hat hydra bust or something. It became a really close low-econ game, and Stork popped a scout to stop mining at the Z's nat while holding off the all-in. | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
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saltywet
Hong Kong1316 Posts
On May 01 2011 13:14 PH wrote: Stork used a scout in a PvZ once. It was pretty cool. The Z went for a three hat hydra bust or something. It became a really close low-econ game, and Stork popped a scout to stop mining at the Z's nat while holding off the all-in. Stork used a scout in a PvZ once against his ex-teammate. The Z went for a ninja island expansion or something. It became a really close low-econ game but the zerg made spores so Storks' scouts couldn't do anything | ||
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On May 01 2011 13:47 thoradycus wrote: Other than TvZ, firebats have no use AT ALL in TvT and TvP. hmm, I saw lomo make a few in some TvT a few months ago they're good at killing workers and zealots (and I suppose archons as well... lol.) Though yes they're very rare. (firebat drop instead of vulture drop would be hilarious though... 6 firebat 2 medic :O!) | ||
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Mortician
Bulgaria2332 Posts
On May 01 2011 01:57 GG.NoRe wrote: Infested Terrans Zero vs Kal? It is a bug, or maybe a limit, in the engine, they would have to rework the whole game to fix it | ||
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