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Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-25 21:23:07
September 25 2009 08:30 GMT
#1
I don't really know where to begin. I've had a a year of crazy and this tops it off. The past 48 have been heavy. I was sharing my story with a dear friend today, and at one point i was referring to the 48-hour-ago mark as a 'week ago'. I guess there's no way to start but at the start.

I'm sporting some dress shoes. Some casual but not too-seen over-worn faded-with-retarded-holes-jeans that are seen everywhere. I'm wearing a dress shirt that i probably should stop wearing - i bought it a year ago, it's my favourite and consequently over-worn and looks as such, but i'm wearing it anyways. It doesn't matter. I'm comfortable. After the year that i've had, i'm pretty much always in this space that i describe as 'comfortable'.

It's a Saturday, so the club i'm at is relatively busy. It's an easy-going atmosphere, not one of the stuck-up clubs that can be so often found in Vancouver. I do my rounds. I'm scoping out the crowd, seeing who's worth scoping out: someone hot, someone awkward, someone who looks interesting, someone who has a story, any of the above. Not too long ago i would go out with the hope of getting some attention and maybe getting laid; things have since changed. I've become fascinated with 'new', particularly people, who make life interesting. So now i just look for the person who is going to deliver on that addiction: whoever i talk to will raise my eyebrows; they will pique me; and if they don't, i'll move on to the next potential.

This night didn't have much by the way of interesting. A whole bunch of fags trying to look hot on the dance floor. Definitely far from interesting. The club has a karaoke room by the 4th bar (the bar has 4 floors), and i decide to check it out. The singers are almost always entertaining - one extreme or the other - and maybe i can find interesting located there this night. Sure enough i find what i'm looking for: a superb singer doing Oasis' "Boys and Girls" followed by a torturing "I'm alright" by Whitney Houston. The people might not be interesting, but the performances certainly are.

I'm content spectating, and so go to the bar to grab myself another beer.

"What can i getchya?" says the handsome boy on the other side of the bar. He's shirtless, as is not unusual in a gay club, though not the stereotypical waxed-body gym-buff. He's sporting his natural unrefined self. He's obviously comfortable and knows he's hot, but not in an overtly in-your-face ego sorta way. The impression is simply that he thinks one might enjoy the view, and he's cool with it. I order my standard pint of Kokanee.

The Oasis fan is at it again: this time a sappy "Beautiful" by Christina Aguilera. Crazy surprisingly, delivers. Amazing voice. I continue to watch the roller coaster of karaoke for an hour or two - the crowd is entertaining. It eventually comes to a close and i say goodbye to some of my undiscovered-bound-for-stardom friends, and grab another pint from Gorgeous behind the bar.

"So, is this the regular kind of busy, or something other?" i ask him. I'm always curious. I like to ask questions that elucidate the environment that i would consider foreign that other's would consider norm. "Yeah, about right for this floor. A Saturday standard."

Ok, so i realize you're straight. But really, this guy is gorgeous. Hold your puke while i explain it. He has this crazy cute face, super endearing without coming off as boyish. He's hairy, from the neck down his shirtless chest to his waist, hair outlining the 'man-lines' that men get that draw a V from the sides of your stomach to your crotch. He's broad across the shoulders and thinner around the waste , avoiding a 'barrel' shape and more of the coveted "V". He has a piercing on his upper lip. He wears ridiculous hats that he cycles through every 5 minutes - a sailor hat, a hippie wig, a pirate hat accompanied by a ridiculous rubber parrot. He's super goofy and really comfortable with being laughed at.

I make conversation. The karaoke might be over, but i've found another type of interesting. An hour goes by where i continue to talk to bartender-beauty as he tries to serve his other customers. Maybe a waning of inebriation or just a too-late hitting home of how annoying i must be, either way, i decide it's probably time for me to leave the server to his wonts, and go to say good-bye.

"Hey, i just realized that i've been talking to you for an hour, and since you work here, you can't politely or even impolitely escape my company. I apologize. Have a great night."

I decide that maybe i should milk it for all it's worth.

"so how about before i go, you lean over this bar here and give me a kiss". I make this retarded puppy-dog face that i'm sure is cute in a repulsive/homely but trying-so-hard to be endearing sort of way.

"Sorry bud, no fucking way".

Ouch. It stings a bit. But i don't fear rejection the way i once did. In a weird fashion that i won't go to the lengths to explain right now, i appreciate such an experience for how real it is (see Life and Death for a chance at better context). I smile and nod at him - giving due respects to his decision, and i turn and head down the stairs toward the next level.

"hey", gorgeous calls after me.

Still feeling pretty embarrassed i turn and just make eye contact with a slightly sheepish smile.

"do you smoke weed?" he says.

"Usually whenever i have the chance" i give him.

"Well... i'm off in a half hour, how about a walk and a doobie?".

We make our way to his place. He lives right on the beach, 9th floor of an apartment building. The view is rad, seeing over the bay that divides downtown from the rest of Vancouver, an expanse of lights dot the horizon; an expanse of lights reflect in the water. We grab some beers from his fridge, he rolls a doobie, and we decide that the beach is a greater atmosphere than his bachelor suite - occupied by his two trying-to-sleep girlfriends visiting from Kelowna.

His company is as easy and comfortable as his demeanor was at the bar. Super chill, super comfortable, completely lacking of ego. We smoke the weed and i get incredibly stoned, having also have been drinking most of the night. We don't talk about anything particularly pertinent to our lives, but still engaging, still interesting. We make our way back to his place and try to so-stealthily continue our conversation. The shirts come off. Nothing crazy or too-disgusting for you heterosexuals, just a close proximity between us. I can't remember too much the events of this part, as i was at this point pretty wrecked, but i distinctly remember that it just continued to feel more and more comfortable, more and more easy, in an awesomely mutual way. then again, i could have just been drunk.

At one point we get into each other and are equally aware of (and therefore concerned for) his company, and he shows some bravery: "what do you think of showers?".

I nod. We make our way to the washroom.

We strip down. He is unequivocally the most gorgeous man i've ever seen in the flesh. His body is what i would consider ideal: his hair, his goods, his chest, legs, ass, everything. I've never been so engaged.

We are in the shower for over an hour and the details aren't important. It was good and awesome, and a one-time experience that i completely appreciate for what it is - he's a hot bartender, and for whatever reason happens to find Mora an interest on this particular night. I escape at 7:30 in the morning to retreat to my own bed in contentment. Wow, i really wasn't expecting that.

The next day i wake to a beeping of my phone. Message from Michael: "Hey. I wasn't expecting last night. You're a great guy. What are you doing today?". We meet up and and hang out before he has to go to work. This time without the booze. Still comfortable. Hell, even more comfortable.

Over the next few weeks we see each other as much as we can. My work was getting crazy, being there about 70 hours a week. But on the nights that i didn't crash on the couch at my work for 4 hours before getting to-it again, i'd crawl over to his place at 1 or 2am, we'd stay awake till 3, and then i'd be off and out again at 8am. It didn't matter. It was all worth it.

I got a text message from him last week though that changed things. It came out of the blue.

"Hey... You are a great guy... I want to talk to you about something".

I don't know how it is in the heterosexual world, but in my world i've seen that line a lot. A LOT. It's usually said by me, right before i tell whomever is on the other end that i'm just not interested.

To provide some context, i've had a bit of an active year. I've probably given that line 20 or so times; and those are the ones that were actually worthwhile enough to care to be honest with. The rest didn't even get that courtesy. I'm not a particularly emotional person, and i don't believe in monogamy in any capacity. I've never experienced the emotion of jealousy, and the idea of that emotion is completely foreign to me. Consequently, i like to have my fun and move on before the standard person (or from my context, headcase) starts to venture into that space - they typically try to drag me in.

I saw this one guy last March/April named Justin. He wasn't what i am typically attracted to: He is petite, blond, body-hairless, completely into fashion, and as flamboyant as you can get without having a lisp. For whatever reason (i'm guessing because he was so opposite to what i am usually attracted to) he piqued me. We dated for about 2 months. He was a head-case. Not just because he was jealous, but more because he wanted something along the lines of a life-time commitment after knowing him for a single weekend. Out of character with myself, i put up with it (at the confusion of my friends) for about 2 months. I then snapped back to my usual Mora-self, and went my own way.

So the impact of this Michael situation is significant. I've never been in a situation before that a) i wasn't the one delivering the line of "you're a great guy", and b) that i would care if someone else was delivering it to me first.

But this time was a bit different. He's funny. He's smart. He makes me laugh. And i can't imagine being more physically attracted to someone. He fits everything that i'd want someone to fit. I don't believe in "the one", but he might be "a one".

A part of me was hoping that this thing he wanted to talk to me about was something along the lines of wanting to be exclusive; of wanting to go-steady. (which is mind-boggling! i've never wanted such a thing before in any capacity!)... But this possibility quickly dissipated.

"Hey, i just got in from Soccer, what's up?" i respond.

"Oh, just relaxing before work..." i get from him. And... what? You want to talk to me and you're relaxing before work? ok...?

"Sweet. You said you wanted to talk? Should i call?", i respond, somewhat annoyed that he dodged the question the first time. But really, now i feel like i'm the headcase cause i'm getting worked up that he didn't answer a question that wasn't technically asked.

"Ummm..... I'll talk to you in a few days... i guess..."

Honestly. Who goes to the effort of adding that many periods to a text message? The situation at this point was outlined pretty clearly: This guy met me and thought i might be something he wanted. He got to know me better and i didn't quite fit the bill. He wants to let me go but cares enough about me that he does not want to hurt me; he clearly wants to talk about something he doesn't want to talk about.

3 days go by without a text or phone call. Really, that isn't such a big deal, but the context is simply that we'd been talking to each other almost every day for over a month. I was bummed. I had it totally figured out and i was totally bummed.

"Hey, what time do you get off tonight? i don't work" i receive on my phone after those 3 days. I'm of course still working overtime, work is still crazy up the wall. I make my way to his place after putting in my hours.

I'm a little bit distant but obviously excited to see him - i wasn't sure if i was ever going to see him again. He gives me a hug and we embrace, and he gives an extra tug at the end. I breathe. so this is what it feels like to be let go when you don't want to be.

"So, i texted you saying we need to talk... And well, i've been feeling super shitty for like 2 weeks now..." I stare out between the narrow passage of two golden cages; Puff, his bearded dragon; Gibbons, his Cockatiel.

"And well, i didn't expect to feel this way about you" he continues. "you sort of caught me off guard... but well..."

Yep. Here it comes.

"fuck. this is tough...

"fuck... Taylor... I'm HIV positive".

...

It was a different bomb. A very different bomb.

A much bigger bomb.

We've had sex. I've been seeing him for a month. Over a month.

I got tested today. I went to the Center of Disease Control under the advisement of my doctor - they're quicker there: they're more able to deal with this, both technologically and psychologically. I sit in the waiting room reading "Things to know before getting tested for HIV".

are you prepared for a negative result?

are you prepared for a positive result?

do you have friends or family who can support you while you are waiting for your results to come through?

I look at the other people in the waiting room. 300lb guy sitting across from me. He's not fat. He has tattoo sleeves running down both arms and down his left leg. The girl he is with is crying. She keeps repeating to him that it wasn't her fault. He stares at the person-who-is-not-there sitting in the chair to my left. An older lady, native, probably around the age of 30 or 40 - she might have kids - is on the phone 3, or 4, (or 5 or whatever the fuck number) to my right. She can't really speak. She's trying to, but her voice-box refuses to work between her sobs.

The others are mostly silent and non-descript, except for the fact that we're all holding the same pamphlet.

Phase 1, understanding what HIV is...

I don't remember the titles of the other 5 phases. The nurses name was Helen. She took 6 vials of blood. She asked me to drop my pants and she poked and prodded my penis and scrotum to see if any signs show-up that sometimes do in people who first get infected. She asks me if i have a list of people i've been with since being with Michael, do i have their phone numbers, am i ready to call them.

What am i doing here?

I didn't have anal sex. It was only oral stuff. He didn't even cum. Does that mean i'm fine? Can i get out of here?

"The chances of transmission from oral sex are very low. I would say your results look optimistic. But if you had any cuts or sores in your mouth, there could be blood to blood transmission".

I suffer from naturally and horribly bad breath. Whenever i know i'm saying at someone's place, i bring my toothbrush. I brush vigorously because i'm retardedly compulsive when i comes to oral hygiene. It's not uncommon for my gums to bleed. Were they bleeding last Tuesday when i sucked him off? How many times did i actually brush my teeth at his place? Why do i need to ask myself these questions? What is happening?

I get my results on October 5th. Of course, these are only the preliminary results. There are 2 types of HIV blood testing: the first type is when you initially contract the virus, when your body hasn't actually become 'infected' yet, and the HIV DNA has just entered your blood stream. This first preliminary testing looks for that DNA in your blood. This is (according to her) an extensive process that is hard to execute and is extremely expensive. So expensive that they in fact do 'group screening' where my blood will be mixed with 9 others'. If the test comes back negative, our chances of having the virus are low. If the test comes back positive, our blood will be tested individually. All this should be done in 10 days.

Assuming that i pass this first test, i need to come back in 3 months for the final screening. At this point, if i have the virus, my body will have started producing antibodies for this, and this they can detect relatively easily. This is when i find out if i'm Negative. Or Otherwise.

So now i wait. I'm not particularly worried. I've read tons of shit online in the past 2 days regarding HIV/AIDS/transmission, and the chances of transmitting through oral sex is very low. The online research tells me this, the doctors i saw told me this, so did the nurse. But i guess the impact of this experience just changed "AIDS is bad" to "AIDS is real". And maybe the scary part is i don't know if i'd do anything differently. Who actually wears a condom when receiving a blowjob? Who actually asks to see test results before jumping into bed? I certainly don't need to be as promiscuous, but that doesn't really change whether or not they have a disease. What if they don't know? What if the condom breaks?

I'm a pretty solid guy, at least in the sense that i feel i can handle anything that life throws at me. I don't particularly feel different this time (though it's all still sinking in), but man, this is fucking heavy.

I think that's the best word i've been able to use throwout this whole experience. It's just Heavy.

*****
Happiness only real when shared.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 25 2009 08:58 GMT
#2
Well shit, Should've asked before going.. mouth deep? =/
Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
September 25 2009 08:58 GMT
#3
Good luck, i hope they come out negative.
They first ignore you. After they laugh at you. Next they will fight you. In the end you will win.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
September 25 2009 09:00 GMT
#4
Damn man....I'm sure you'll come out fine...I remember the first time I got tested...God I was worried, but then again I wasn't for some reason...But considering that the one before my last girlfriend had lied to me, I probably should have gotten tested mad earlier....

Came up clean...wait...no...I never looked at my HIV results....bah fuck it, no sense looking now...

Anyway man, Don't worry too much Mora, I'm sure your fine. I'm really not sure how good a condoms durability is for anal sex though. Cutting back on the promiscuity would probably be the best step to start with first...You know, giving that line to 20 guys within the last year....Should probably cut that down good sir.

Also,
Who actually asks to see test results before jumping into bed?

My ex you ass hole. ;-; Thanks for reminding me of her....

But then again I was actually dating her.

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FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
September 25 2009 09:01 GMT
#5
Okay...

This was a really weird read, with all the gay details you DID give but regarding the bigger picture I'm speechless. I've never known or met someone with AIDS so I can't think of anything intelligent to say.

Just hang in there, hopefully you'll come out negative.
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Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
September 25 2009 09:14 GMT
#6
from what I've seen every once in a while you will be privy to these types of scares, good news is you have a VERY low chance of contracting HIV, bad news is your new found infatuation has a severe character flaw, and is HIV positive, that may attract you but not likely.

just beware when the other seemingly less harmful but twice as contagious stds roll around.

and i don't say this out of stupidity, deep seeded hate for gays, or other retarded crap, but because i was there when my brother ( also gay) went through his HIV scare, he was a wreck, but he didn't show it, and i suspect neither will you. Just know that i think maybe it would help to talk to someone you know personally.

try not to worry.
Yizuo
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1537 Posts
September 25 2009 09:16 GMT
#7
lots of love mora, you'll make it through
Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
September 25 2009 09:26 GMT
#8
Hey man good luck with the results I hope they come back negative.
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Espers
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom606 Posts
September 25 2009 09:44 GMT
#9
Good luck!
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
September 25 2009 10:05 GMT
#10
oh man.

i don't even know you at all and you're just some dude on the internet that happens to post on the same forum as i do but i really uhm. empathize with you? anyway...

you will be fine mora!

I BELIEVE.
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
September 25 2009 10:18 GMT
#11
Do you know why he took so long to tell you.. like did he think oral sex wouldn't transmit it anyhow or something?
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hymn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Bulgaria832 Posts
September 25 2009 11:16 GMT
#12
Oh crap, that's so bad manner. To have you suck his disk and THEN telling you he's got the AIDS. I don't know how it is in the homo world but in my world if a girl says to me she's got AIDS after sex I'd probably be so enraged that I'll be killing her for months.

I really hope all your tests are -

gl!
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madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
September 25 2009 11:49 GMT
#13
ouch that sucks. good luck. i hope your results come up negative.

Yep. Here it comes.

"fuck. this is tough...

"fuck... Taylor... I'm HIV positive".


i'm not gay but i hope that everything works out between you and him (it seems like you really enjoy his company). if you don't want to see him again thats understandable of course.
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
September 25 2009 12:02 GMT
#14
shit dude, that is heavy.
hope everything works out well and you don't have it
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Rayzorblade
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1172 Posts
September 25 2009 15:29 GMT
#15
interesting story & hope you'll be fine Mora!
SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
September 25 2009 17:00 GMT
#16
sad TT hope the test comes back negative man
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Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
September 25 2009 19:18 GMT
#17
gl dude. :[
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Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
September 25 2009 19:50 GMT
#18
On September 25 2009 19:18 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Do you know why he took so long to tell you.. like did he think oral sex wouldn't transmit it anyhow or something?


yeah.

Because oral sex is super low risk he didn't think it was a big deal if we did it. He told me that that's why he didn't engage in more activity than we had engaged in.

He robbed me of that choice though. Pretty brutal.
Happiness only real when shared.
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-25 20:13:52
September 25 2009 20:02 GMT
#19
thanks a ton for all the good wishes and care. this community rocks.

in fact, i'm really quite fortunate to have all the people in my life that i do. Family, friends, co-workers, all have been super supportive.

As for:


i'm not gay but i hope that everything works out between you and him (it seems like you really enjoy his company). if you don't want to see him again thats understandable of course.


I wish everything could work out. I really like this guy. I'm bothered that he didn't tell me to begin with (because of the risk that i was put at) but i don't hate him and i'm not really angry. (though i'm sure if my results come back positive that that may chance. just a hunch. haha). There's just no solution to this problem. There's nothing we can do to make this ok.

Sex should be good and fun and joyous and just awesome and one of the best experiences. The thought of trying to maintain a relationship with someone where every time i'm expressing love (or lust) that this may be that time that i get a disease that will kill me is just too much.

He contracted the virus from an encounter where he was practicing safe sex and the condom broke. His own story is example enough for me that we can't go to enough measures to protect me from this.

When he first told me, i was really optimistic and didn't care. we can make this work; surely people with HIV aren't sentenced to a life of misery. But now i've done my research. I can't live like that. Even if i manage to stay protected, i'll still live in fear; and in the end he is going to die. This story is not going to have a happy ending.

I wish i had freaked out when he told me. Instead i reacted totally calm, optimistic even. I saw him the day after, and came to his work and kept him company. He seemed super surprised that i'd even want to talk to him. Not trying to come from a place of ego, but it must be nice for him to finally meet someone who doesn't go running and screaming in the other direction.

And now i have to play the haha, JUST KIDDING card. fuck.

I just can't do it. I'm 24. I don't even believe in monogamy. I'm not ready for this.

fuck this is hard.

fuck me.
Happiness only real when shared.
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-25 21:32:33
September 25 2009 21:07 GMT
#20
- when ur waiting for results ur essentially powerless and can't do anything about it, here is a little reassurance. I know were ur coming from too, I been through this shit twice (I had to worry about hep c too, fortunately I got lucky both times)
(health care's dark side: it's not IF a needle stick will happen, it's a matter of when, cause invariably everyone in it gets stuck by accident)

anyway here it goes ~

2003
http://wwwext.amgen.com/pdfs/abgenix/2003-05-12.pdf

2009
http://journals.lww.com/co-hivandaids/Abstract/2009/03000/CCR5_monoclonal_antibodies_for_HIV_1_therapy.6.aspx

- human monoclonal antibody to the CCR5 receptor will defeat this virus; it will be out before 2012-16 (my best guess, this stuff is going to go on fast track), gg AIDS http://www.thedoctorschannel.com/video/1161.html

- so even if by freak bad luck you get bad news, retro viral therapy will keep you well for 15 years plus, and the "cure" for this dreaded disease is already in the pipeline (there is no doubt in my own humble opinion) you will be fine + Show Spoiler +
so will ur douch bag friend


(btw 1% of white folk already have an natural absence of the CCR5 receptor; so there is a tiny chance one can be already immune or partially immune to hiv..)
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
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