EPTVery good read also. You're one of the best, if not the best, posters on TL.
i guess i could call it a story? - Page 3
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5486 Posts
Very good read also. You're one of the best, if not the best, posters on TL. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On September 30 2009 13:27 Mora wrote: Geoff! it was just oral sex! how many girls have given you a blow job? Did you ask each one for her blood test results before letting her god down? Did you wear a condom when she blew you? I mean, don't get me wrong, i am going to be more careful, but it wasn't like i was being reckless. I wouldn't have full on intercourse without a condom. That's been a really hard part for me. In retrospect, i don't know if there is anything i'd do differently. The only thing i think will change is that i'm now going to ask every person if they're clean/if they've been tested recently before i fool around with them. At the very least they will have an integrity decision to make. But people lie, especially when they want to get laid, so this form of protection is not really going to account to much significance i think. You said in your post you have "given the courtesy" to maybe 20 people in the last year but also mentioned that you probably didn't even do that much for numerous others... all in all your post suggested you had "been with" MANY people in this year (30+) and I am going to make the assumption you had oral sex with most and possibly anal sex with a few. That is a LOT of partners in one year (imo). Your story also explicitly lays out that you messed around with a dude you met at a bar for around a month without ever having the "have you been checked/tested" talk... let alone FIRST thing. This is all a dangerous lifestyle mora. I'm afraid to tell you but this is especially compounded in the homosexual scene where HIV is more common per capita than most other groups. I am really hoping this is _only_ a scare and nothing more. You are a great guy but this level of promiscuity is going to only end in disaster.. trust me on that. I am glad to hear henceforth you will ask if they've been recently tested but people in likeminded situations will (more often than not I'd contend) lie. Hookups need not be interrupted because one of the two decides they want to ask a relevant question that could end up destroying the hookup. | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
god, i'm really slow today. but yeah, oral sex with over half, anal sex with just one. (i've actually only ever had anal sex with 3 people in my life). regardless, your advice is sound: ask the 'have you been tested' question right off the bat. HIV (along with all other STIs) are found with higher frequency in the gay community than the heterosexual one, so i need to get over my i'm-young-and-invincible attitude. thanks for caring. and thanks for giving me shit when i need to hear it. | ||
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Kerotan
England2109 Posts
Here's to hopping its negative, I hope everyone learns from this episode. | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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uNcontroLable
United States1180 Posts
The whole asking before thing is such a mind blower. It's crazy to think of all the things you can catch from someone even from the mildest of hookups... even just kissing! Yet how many times do any of us lean in close for that fist kiss and ask right away... "You don't have herpes, do you?" Being someone who wholeheartedly believes in monogamy, this story just reinforces my decision to be very, very slow and choosy with my intimacy. For someone like you who doesn't, though, I'd be interested to hear how you proceed from now on, and what ways you keep yourself safe. A lot of my friends run into this same issue, and I struggle with what to tell them other than "You just have to ask first." | ||
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lakrismamma
Sweden543 Posts
Also I have to say that this is so well written, good work! | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
 -hug- | ||
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Mora
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
 be safe(r) !!! | ||
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Quint
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Code
Canada634 Posts
Be safe in the future, you can never be too careful. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On October 07 2009 01:26 Mora wrote: clean. booya boo fukken ya | ||
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Nazarene
Denmark996 Posts
On October 07 2009 01:26 Mora wrote: clean. Good for you man But didn't you say that you only had been seeing him for 1 month? It takes like 3 months before the presence of HIV in blood can actually be measured as far as I know. What did the doctors tell you about that? (I'm not asking to try and make you nervous, I'm just curious) And didn't they offer antiretrovirals immediately? | ||
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LightRailCoyote
United States982 Posts
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5486 Posts
On October 07 2009 01:26 Mora wrote: clean. niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice | ||
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Nazarene
Denmark996 Posts
On September 26 2009 06:07 Physician wrote: - human monoclonal antibody to the CCR5 receptor will defeat this virus; it will be out before 2012-16 (my best guess, this stuff is going to go on fast track), gg AIDS http://www.thedoctorschannel.com/video/1161.html The problem is that a HIV quasispecies will emerge, one that binds to the CXCR5 receptor instead (seen in all later chronic stages of HIV infection as a consequence of depletion of CCR5+ cells). Plus the virus lies latent in CD4+ cells, which has a half-life of approximately 44 months, meaning you must get antiretroviral therapy until you die. So it is a little more problematic than what you suggested unfortunately. | ||
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nofAcedAgent
United States951 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + be careful you fucking idiot. . | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On October 07 2009 06:13 Nazarene wrote: Good for you man But didn't you say that you only had been seeing him for 1 month? It takes like 3 months before the presence of HIV in blood can actually be measured as far as I know. What did the doctors tell you about that? (I'm not asking to try and make you nervous, I'm just curious) And didn't they offer antiretrovirals immediately? The test you are referring to tests for HIV anti-bodies, the test i took looks for the actual HIV DNA (or rather, RNA, from what i understand) in your blood. this latter test is said to be 90% effective. Because of my level of activity with Michael (only oral sex) they said that the risk is 'basically none', and don't feel it's necessary to come in for the anti-body test. I get tested every 3 months anyways, so i will be going again around when i should be for the 2nd test. | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On October 01 2009 07:16 uNcontroLable wrote: *hug*hug*hug* Mora. Geoff has always spoken so highly of you, and we're really thinking of/pulling for/praying for you. This community is full of people that would love to do anything to help if you can ever think of a way we can. <3 The whole asking before thing is such a mind blower. It's crazy to think of all the things you can catch from someone even from the mildest of hookups... even just kissing! Yet how many times do any of us lean in close for that fist kiss and ask right away... "You don't have herpes, do you?" Being someone who wholeheartedly believes in monogamy, this story just reinforces my decision to be very, very slow and choosy with my intimacy. For someone like you who doesn't, though, I'd be interested to hear how you proceed from now on, and what ways you keep yourself safe. A lot of my friends run into this same issue, and I struggle with what to tell them other than "You just have to ask first." Thanks to you both. I can't wait to meet you guys, i'd imagine i will do so within the next year. Once SC2 comes out i will have to go south and visit inc for a LAN. I'd love to meet you in person when i'm down!  | ||
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