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Why should I continue to support blizzard?

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TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
April 15 2012 07:32 GMT
#1
There is so many things that Starcraft 2 could be improved upon, but despite our attempts we get for the most part, ignored. There are some exceptions of course, but for the most part I've just lost faith in blizzards ability to maintain its game and support the community that so passionately supports them.

We see time and time again when a community member makes a fix for a common problem, and we tell blizzard about it, and just nothing happens. One is the snipe change. This was done straight up wrong. They said they wanted to reduce its effectiveness towards ultralisks and broodlords, they instead nerfed its utility in ALL of the matchups, if they said it was to versatile in all matchups, that'd be okay, but they didn't. If they just did 50 damage and - 25 damage to massive, it would of made so much more sense. And we told blizzard about this. People emailed this solution to blizzard, put it on their forums, but they didn't even respond to it. And then proceeded to go with their sub-optimal solution. There is a lot more examples of this, but you guys get the idea.

One of the biggest things that frustrates me is battlenet 2.0. We have had absolutely massive campaigns to get blizzards attention when it comes to issues with this, but still nothing changes. The only response we ever get is "Its on the list" or something on those lines. It pisses me off to no end when community members post beautifully written criticisms about battlenet and blizzard just gives a fluff answer and doesn't do anything.

There is loads of other things that pisses me off such as shared replays, save/load in game, lan, but you guys have heard all of those already. The question I pose to you is, why should we still be supporting blizzard? They are so unbelievably disrespectful to the community that I don't understand why we're still here. I for one, am not going to support a gaming company who does not support their community. And unless there are going to be significant changes, I will definitely not be buying heart of the swarm.

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Eve online FC, lover of all competition
hai2u
Profile Joined September 2011
688 Posts
April 15 2012 07:42 GMT
#2
lol I hear u man, SC2 is the last game I buy from blizztard.
Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 07:53:28
April 15 2012 07:51 GMT
#3
Why are you asking if you should support them? You've obviously made up your mind.
Some people will be content with what we have and some people won't.

You dont have to buy their games but other people still will and you'll just have to deal with it and move on. Trying to convince people that what they like is wrong or bad is an easy way to start an argument neither person will win.

I know you want to try and improve their decisions but you need to recognize when you're beating a dead horse and when its time to just stop worrying about it.
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
April 15 2012 07:51 GMT
#4
i must play Diablo 3 tho tt
Greed leads to just about all losses.
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 07:54:21
April 15 2012 07:52 GMT
#5
The thing is, 95% the poeple who are pissed and "up in arms" about not having these features will still buy the game. Most people dont have the capacity to stand up and sacrifice something they want to achieve something better. It frustrating because of people like them, we have companies like Activision/EA.

edit: post above mine....perfect example....
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 07:56:54
April 15 2012 07:55 GMT
#6
if you don't think it's worth the money to buy games from blizz don't buy it. By saying that, I mean I'll buy Diablo3 but I still have to think about HOTS considering that the i'm spending a new game worth amount of money for a couple of extra new units (and some old units removed) and a possibly boring single campaign
EDIT: Assuming that blizz doesn't care about esport, sc2 has no future so that's another reason why I wouldn't buy HOTS and move on to Dota 2 which has a much brighter future
I hate all this singing
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 07:58:27
April 15 2012 07:56 GMT
#7
While there are annoying (lack of) features, it does not take away from the game for me. I wish they would fix stuff also, but I love that they just don't release garbage then patch it every week like Microsoft and many other game companies like to do. Do what you will, but I am tired of people bitching about a game that they have received +1000s of hour of entertainment from for only $60.

I will support them because they usually eventually fix issues and they produce good games. I get tons of hours of extra, basically free entertainment out of it and I will continue to do so.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
April 15 2012 07:58 GMT
#8
On April 15 2012 16:52 DyEnasTy wrote:
The thing is, 95% the poeple who are pissed and "up in arms" about not having these features will still buy the game. Most people dont have the capacity to stand up and sacrifice something they want to achieve something better. It frustrating because of people like them, we have companies like Activision/EA.

edit: post above mine....perfect example....

no no im not making blogs about how blizz sucks so.... im not your perfect example sry.
Greed leads to just about all losses.
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
April 15 2012 07:59 GMT
#9
On April 15 2012 16:56 TheAmazombie wrote:
While there are annoying (lack of) features, it does not take away from the game for me. I wish they would fix stuff also, but I love that they just don't release garbage then patch it every week like Microsoft and many other game companies like to do. Do what you will, but I am tired of people bitching about a game that they have received +1000s of hour of entertainment from for only $60.

I will support them because they usually eventually fix issues and they produce good games.

I have to agree, the amount of entertainment they got from $60 is so worth it that those complaint sounds almost over the line, but I think the problem here is not that, but rather does blizzard really cares about us gamers and esport?
I hate all this singing
Enhancer_
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada320 Posts
April 15 2012 08:00 GMT
#10
None of that is necessary to actually just play a good game of ZvT. That's the experience I spent my money on. While all those extras would be nice, the experience I get just from the gameplay has been well worth the money.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 08:04:06
April 15 2012 08:03 GMT
#11
On April 15 2012 16:59 brachester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 16:56 TheAmazombie wrote:
While there are annoying (lack of) features, it does not take away from the game for me. I wish they would fix stuff also, but I love that they just don't release garbage then patch it every week like Microsoft and many other game companies like to do. Do what you will, but I am tired of people bitching about a game that they have received +1000s of hour of entertainment from for only $60.

I will support them because they usually eventually fix issues and they produce good games.

I have to agree, the amount of entertainment they got from $60 is so worth it that those complaint sounds almost over the line, but I think the problem here is not that, but rather does blizzard really cares about us gamers and esport?


I believe that they do. Just because they don't listen to every single complaint or take it and just release a new patch each week to appease the TLers or Redditors (Thank God) just means it is Blizz being Blizz. They take their time and try to release things slowly and correctly. They may not always be right, but geez, they are just game designers. This is not a conspiracy where they just "don't care" about us or our concerns. They are not Mr. Burns, sitting around tenting their fingers while being rich on the backs of idiots...(WoW not included).

They are a business and a decent one at that. They know the longevity in this game is the best to continued revenue. They have fixed things slowly and consistently. These fixes will come eventually.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
SpeCtor
Profile Joined August 2010
233 Posts
April 15 2012 08:14 GMT
#12
I am amazed how good the game is. This game is well worth the hours of enjoyment you get out of it. But it can be frustrating that people like Dustin Browder and Blizzard Development are still ignoring the community.
sickle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand656 Posts
April 15 2012 08:18 GMT
#13
What rts is superior to sc2 today?
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
April 15 2012 08:21 GMT
#14
Because.

Name me two games as good as Starcraft 2. Nowadays so much crap is released and it's extremely hard to find a challenging multiplayer experience. I don't know about you but going 50-10 every game you play CoD is rather boring.
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
April 15 2012 08:23 GMT
#15
On April 15 2012 17:18 sickle wrote:
What rts is superior to sc2 today?


BroodWar?
And classic bnet is far better than bnet 2.0
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
sickle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand656 Posts
April 15 2012 08:27 GMT
#16
On April 15 2012 17:23 Shana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 17:18 sickle wrote:
What rts is superior to sc2 today?


BroodWar?
And classic bnet is far better than bnet 2.0


I meant which modern rts. But noone is stopping you from playing BW.
-Kaiser-
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
April 15 2012 08:28 GMT
#17
SC2 is the last game I'm buying from Blizzard until they fix up their shit. Might not even get the expansions.

Fact is, there are other companies (like Valve) that are selling their business on a model of giving us what we want. Blizzard is like a cocaine dealer that gives us milk powder so we crawl back for more.

3 Hatch Before Cool
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
April 15 2012 08:35 GMT
#18
On April 15 2012 17:28 -Kaiser- wrote:
SC2 is the last game I'm buying from Blizzard until they fix up their shit. Might not even get the expansions.

Fact is, there are other companies (like Valve) that are selling their business on a model of giving us what we want. Blizzard is like a cocaine dealer that gives us milk powder so we crawl back for more.



That may be, but I don't want random yahoos choosing what I want out of a game. Not to mention they give us what I consider to be inferior products, even with more direct community input. Blizz is listening...remember the ladder? Remember the Reapers, Bunkers, and BitByBit.Prime? These are changes we all screamed for and they came eventually.

I just think it people are getting to be too much like martyrs on this topic. But do what you will, that is your choice, but I doubt it will affect anything.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
April 15 2012 08:39 GMT
#19
If you don't want to support Blizzard, vote with your wallet and don't buy any games from them
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
April 15 2012 08:43 GMT
#20
Which developer is making better games?

I mean, I see this all the time from fans about Blizzard and Bioware, but realistically ... might as well stop playing those genres if you don't want to play their games.
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