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I'm honestly on the same boat asking that question but I'm hoping that HoTs and D3 will make up for the shit they have released known as sc2Why should I continue to support blizzard? - Page 3
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MaV_gGSC
Canada1345 Posts
I'm honestly on the same boat asking that question but I'm hoping that HoTs and D3 will make up for the shit they have released known as sc2 | ||
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Cheater23
United States34 Posts
Think about it, almost every other major company requires any DLC or extra content to be paid. Blizzard improves their games for free while continuing to develop expansions. Not only that, but they are quality improvements as well. Blizzard has been handed a large (but awesome) task in managing the largest game in esports, and they've done an excellent job as far as the game goes. Don't rock the boat, it could be much worse. | ||
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Ferr3t
21 Posts
I'd rather buy a game I have a few single gripes with as long as I can get 100s of hours of enjoyment out if it than just "boycott' Blizzard. What good does it do me to not buy a game that I would in all likelyhood spend more hours on than any other games of the same genres? Eventually when I kick the bucket, I'll get to say I had my fun instead of always waiting for something better to come along, because ultimately, when that better game comes out, I'll buy that too. I won't be taking my pride or money to the grave, but I hope I'll have had some enjoyment in life. | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3720 Posts
On April 15 2012 16:58 cmen15 wrote: no no im not making blogs about how blizz sucks so.... im not your perfect example sry. Ok fine your the part of the masses who accept a sub par product, thus forcing the rest of us to play or leave something that we cherished and loved for years. Its because of your dollar that....again contribute to the success of businesses like EA/Activision. | ||
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TanKLoveR
Venezuela838 Posts
I don't like all these changes they made to franchises I loved for many many years, so I won't be buying any of their future games. Blizz is a great developer with great franchises but there is a point where if the game is not fun for you, doesn't matter what the name of the game is, if you don't find it fun it doesn't matter how successful it is and how many other people like it. I've found Dota 2 to be a really fun alternative as far as e-sports go even though I never played dota in my life, I did some reading on how the game works and I been really enjoying watching Tobi cast all those tournaments and having Valve behind it is also great since they have never disappointed me with their games. I plan on buying Dota 2 when it comes out and start getting more familiar with the game by playing it since it seems to be very much fun, I really like valve didn't simplify the sequel (apparently) like many other developers are doing these days with their games to access a bigger audience of people who aren't willing to spend any time learning the game and just want something easy and quick like they are playing Angry Birds. | ||
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
On April 16 2012 04:11 DyEnasTy wrote: Ok fine your the part of the masses who accept a sub par product, thus forcing the rest of us to play or leave something that we cherished and loved for years. How many games have you bought the last 5 years that met your standards, if sc2 doesn't? How much did you pay for them? | ||
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Jayson X
Switzerland2431 Posts
On April 15 2012 16:32 TBone- wrote: There is loads of other things that pisses me off such as shared replays, save/load in game, lan, but you guys have heard all of those already. The question I pose to you is, why should we still be supporting blizzard? They are so unbelievably disrespectful to the community that I don't understand why we're still here. I for one, am not going to support a gaming company who does not support their community. And unless there are going to be significant changes, I will definitely not be buying heart of the swarm. Well. First of all I don't play or watch Starcraft 2 anymore. But I had quite a few very active months. I don't enjoy the game anymore, but I don't look at it as a bad game. I would have never played & watched Broodwar for almost a decade because of the game alone. It had its shortcoming. It's hackers and UI flaws (Black games list, anyone?). What makes or breaks a game is it's following, stuff that sparks to life because of the community i.e. Korean E-Sports. I know a shitload of people can relate to this. You almost gave up on the game, played other games, moved on with your life, and then you watched the OGN Starleague Finals and were totally in to it again because hell that was some cool shit you just saw. It inspired you. It didn't necessarily make you a better player, but it gave you perspective to what can be done and what little your skill allowed. So you started to play the game out of fun again, joined a clan with some buddies, formed friendships, hung around in chats with them and played clanwars on sundays. But you didn't look at yourself as some hardcore die hard down to the core fan. It was just there, with you. You didn't ask for anything new. You didn't look at the UI going "why don't they fix this!!? I never support them again". Blizzard didn't even really exist for you, they where of no importance. It was the Nadas, the SAviOrs, the Boxers, the Bisus, the stories, the dramas, it was Teamliquid and all it's counterparts, it was your internet friendships, the guys who wrote these awesome articles and the ones who went to great lengths making it possible for you to even watch a Starleague live. Everyone who was in it because it was positive fun. Not everything was perfect. But it didn't have to be. It just was. I personally couldn't care less who makes these games. No gaming company produces games in the same formation they have been since they existed anyway. So what do I care. Millions of people play WoW. I don't. So what. Either it gives me that special something or it doesn't. Hell maybe next year a new game comes out and sucks me right into it. Or not. So what. No company is worth crying about. Today I play game XY, tomorrow I learn the guitar from someone on youtube. "Shit is flimsy". | ||
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pedostare
United States31 Posts
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On April 16 2012 19:04 pedostare wrote: Well, if you don 't want to play you don't have to. If it's really bothersome to you there are loads of other games you can play. However, here's one thing to consider. From an engineering perspective, many of the changes that have been suggested are not as simple as many of you assume. The things that seem like simple changes (e.g. battle.net) would actually take a great deal of development, time and testing. What's more is that the change you guys are suggested for the battle.net UI aren't just tweaking. They're a revamping of the entire thing. Perhaps you should have more faith in blizzard. If they say they're working on/ looking into something, maybe they are? Changing battle.net UI seems like something that'd take months if not a full year to complete successfully. It's really a shame that so many arrogant, I-have-no-real-world-experience, undergrad comp. science majors have fooled you guys into thinking these changes are ezpz, and that blizzard is withholding doing so because they are meanie butts. If I were a blizzard developer I wouldn't even want to change it tbh. Even if they did laboriously made a change to the UI, our selfish, entitled generation would find reasons to dislike it and continue complaining. We are a generation that complains about nearly everything, and we think that dropping a mere 60 dollars on a game entitles us to tell blizzard about everything it should and shouldn't be doing. Let us not forget that when we are paying for these games we are paying for access not ownership. Having blizzard listen to even a few of our concerns should be a privilege not something we're owed. This bullshit belief in gamer entitlement needs to end. This is fucking capitalism, blizzard makes adjustmentscand changes to keep me happy cause they want my money and everyone else's money. There are no privledges or rights. Stop being an idiot. | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3720 Posts
On April 16 2012 17:50 aebriol wrote: How many games have you bought the last 5 years that met your standards, if sc2 doesn't? How much did you pay for them? My argument isnt initially buying SC2 at all. I bought it. Hell I bought the collectors edition. But I will not continue to support a game maker that is taking steps backwards. Even semi intelligent people are aware that companies are intentionally doing things that are underhanded, greedy and downright wrong to be quite honest. So instead of accepting a sub optimal product, not just by my standard but instead by a standard they themselves have set in the past (actually a game thats 12 years old has a good "standard" comes to mind) I will refrain from buying the next installment of SC2 till Blizzard starts acting like the company I loved growing up and instead of the money hungry Activisionists. I just wish more people would stop being duped and take a similar stand. Especially the ones who are hypocrites. edit: to directly answer your question the games I have purchased (or played) are: SC2, AoE 3, Sins of a Solar Empire, Mass Effect 2, LoL, BF3, Rift and Halo Reach. The ones that have met my "standard" are ME2, LoL and to a smaller degree BF3 but only in gameplay. I think out of any EA game Ive ever played that one was pretty good up until the recent patch. | ||
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yukit
United States6 Posts
On the change game front, customer feedback is of course important, but implementing takes time. At my company, we have customer complaints that lead to improvements, but that can be over 6 months to get the slightest change. We've all got multiple things going on, and we only have some time here and there to focus on any single one problem. And its not as if a single person can make the changes and be done with it. Whatever was decided upon was done with a lot of thought, consideration, and collaboration. Ever the optimist, I just think one day soon, we'll get some kick ass updates. | ||
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Mazer
Canada1086 Posts
I've since gone back to watching BW (not playing though mind you, I've been spoiled by SC2 mechanics1). Maybe it's a nostalgia thing, but I honestly believe that BW still blows SC2 out of the water. I like to hope that Blizzard will make some magical (a la BW) adjustments with their expansions but that's just wishful thinking as I think there are fundamental flaws with the game. It's not necessarily a bad game and I wish I could pinpoint it to a few specific things but I don't think I can. I haven't woken up early to watch GOM since 2010 probably but I've done it for several BW matches this year. I'd also like to hope that Blizzard will finally bring B.Net 2.0 up to par (at least to WC3 standards) but it doesn't seem like that is a priority at all. For now, I'm 99% sure I won't be buying HotS (and I've never cared much for Diablo either). The alternative for me is DotA2 now. It is a much better experience than SC2 even though it's still in beta. I think anyone defending Blizzard now is a little on the naive side. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised but I'm not holding my breath. | ||
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