Heroin - Page 4

ikh

United Kingdom251 Posts

November 29 2011 13:59 GMT

#61

one thing that people with little sense of empathy never realise is that the reason they moralize a drug addict is to make them feel better about themselves. it's never to prove a point, of course - it's like bullying someone at school, seldom with any sort of life experience or understanding of the offroads of this world. hardly do alcoholics get the same treatment.

at the base of it all, few recreational drugs known in modern medicine cannot be used safely and responsibly just for the sake of having fun. a person who wounds up abusing them (especially opiates due to their introverted nature) rarely gets there because of trying to have fun, much less in a safe and controlled manner. like, say, most people approach alcohol because it's common sense to us. good luck to the op, stay strong

Arnstein

Norway3381 Posts

November 29 2011 14:05 GMT

#62

I get sad when reading this OP. Kinda reminds me of Perfect Day by Lou Reed, which is one of the saddest songs I've heard.

I think heroin is the best thing ever(from what I've read), but as I don't want to do it the rest of my life, I will never try it, as I'm afraid that the rest of my life will be bleak compared to it.

MrCon

France29748 Posts

November 29 2011 14:08 GMT

#63

On November 29 2011 19:32 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Heroin is bad because it produces extreme euphoric effects yet has no real positive impact on you. It feels so good and the withdrawal is so bad that addicts gear their lives toward obtaining it and eventually let nothing stand in the way of the next high.

Basically, heroin makes you think as short term as possible because the immediate reward for shooting heroin is so high that you don't care about long term rewards of pursuing other activities. Not to mention you are contributing nothing to society by doing so.

If you're smart, you'll think on a meta-level and realize that despite the extremely high positive short term effects of heroin, you are better off avoiding it and instead seek long-term positive effects in your life. They are out there, you just have to find them. They don't land on your doorstep or require 0 work like shooting heroin does.

A little on reinforcement theory in human psychology: http://wireheading.com/brainstim/

Best of luck.

This is the perfect post of this thread

Heroin is bad because it's too good basically.

edit : and don't read that saying to yourself "Not me, I'm too strong for this, I'll just try and forget it" You won't. You'll try and you'll love it and you'll be a human waste 5 years later.

Hostileeeeee

United Kingdom42 Posts

November 29 2011 15:40 GMT

#64

The highs of heroine are great, sure, but the lows will ruin your life. After the first high it never feels that good again. You feel so bad that you need another fix to feel good again. Eventually you will have to use just to feel 'normal' again and after that you won't even feel as good as 'normal' and will be in a constant low. Addiction will consume your life. I used to work in a methadone/rehab clinic, I've seen what heroin addiction can do to people and I would not wish that upon anybody.

Chastise

United States13 Posts

November 29 2011 15:53 GMT

#65

hehe. sounds like me every day, but i shoot. been shooting since i was 16 (now almost 22

).
i'm from oklahoma and all we get is KILLERRRRRR black tar here. shit is fucking sick, but its 40$// .2g, and $90// .5g

a good .1 will have me on my ass, and i've got a crazy tolerance though, if that tells you the quality

. the dallas dope i've had takes me about a big to catch a buzz, but i can get a nod off half small here

. ♥♥♥ me some dope. i wanna go get some at lunch. think i will

zalz

Netherlands3704 Posts

November 29 2011 16:29 GMT

#66

Ill never be touching the stuff but hey, if it works for you, great.

Sfydjklm

United States9218 Posts

November 29 2011 16:29 GMT

#67

On November 29 2011 19:03 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:

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Sad you have to rely on something like that make you not "feel like complete utter shit". I have found many things in life that make me feel the way you expressed in your OP without harming my body or chancing an addiction Oo

I'm glad you've found solutions to all your first world problems.

unichan

United States4223 Posts

November 29 2011 16:49 GMT

#68

About the first time thing - yeah, there are plenty of people who have tried heroin once, including some of my friends. They all say that they still feel the withdrawal from that one time months later, and that's the real scary part about that drug. Sure, you can do it just once but heroin is just insane in the way it makes you feel, so if you don't stay strong and go back after that first time it's hard to get out. ^_^
Not that I would know, as I never have and hopefully never will touch drugs~

Chill

Calgary25969 Posts

November 29 2011 17:12 GMT

#69

You must be SoManyDeadLings and I forget your other aka.

knatt

Sweden21 Posts

November 29 2011 17:33 GMT

#70

I feel somewhat sad after reading the blog and all the comments. I hope that you can find happiness without heroin. Good luck

WhuazGoodJaggah

Lesotho777 Posts

November 29 2011 17:49 GMT

#71

On November 29 2011 19:32 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Basically, heroin makes you think as short term as possible because the immediate reward for shooting heroin is so high that you don't care about long term rewards of pursuing other activities. Not to mention you are contributing nothing to society by doing so.

So beeing a cocaine addict is fine because you contribute to society by beeing more productive because of it? You have a really fucked up way looking at live.

HackBenjamin

Canada1094 Posts

November 29 2011 18:13 GMT

#72

I have mixed feelings after reading this.

On one hand, I just want to tell the OP that he's a retard (hear me out) - There is nothing to me that would justify doing heroin. I'm what I would consider a naturalist. I've fucked with chemicals here and there, but I will stick to my weed and my occasional low dose shroom trips because I don't want to wreck my body.

On the other hand, I commend the OP for posting it because it's real. Not sure if it's a subtle reach for help or advice or whatever, but I'm sure on some level you know you shouldn't be doing it.

TL is home to people from all walks of life. For all you know, Nyvone could be the biggest narcotic user on these boards (I mean, he does write up some pretty interesting ban poems!) and it sucks that people just came flying in here with their "Drugs are bad, mmkay?" attitudes.

But basically, I just hope you kick this thing dude. I understand about taking the edge off of a shitty day, but you couldn't have picked a worse way to do it (short of meth, but as stated, that's more of a full retard drug).

Grettin

42381 Posts

November 29 2011 18:29 GMT

#73

On November 29 2011 21:54 Probe1 wrote:
Stop doing black tar. It's bad for you.

Don't do drugs kids.

Heroin isn't instantly (or just) black tar.. -_-

But yes, it's bad.

MasterKush

United Kingdom568 Posts

November 29 2011 18:38 GMT

#74

This was a strange read. Must suck to rely on a drug to live a happy life.

flipp

United States1 Post

November 29 2011 18:41 GMT

#75

Hey there op, I wanted to share a little something with you. This is my first post on TL, but have been an avid follower of the site for quite some time. I am 26 years old and was a drug addict for 12 years. I was kicked out of my house, in and out of jail and rehabs, ended up in a half way house, and have finally got my life together the past 2 years. I'm not judging you, nor am I telling you what you should or shouldn't be doing, but I know the road you're going down. I just want to let you know that you are a person without the drugs. You're life is worth more than getting high. Jail, rehab and death is what heroin is. All the pleading and statistics won't help you. You are ready to change when you make the decision. If you ever want to talk or need information on support, let me know. I would also like to add if it wasn't for starcraft I would probably still be hustlin for my next fix. Gotta find something to replace it with when you're ready. I wish you the best of luck.

Subversive

Australia2229 Posts

November 29 2011 18:42 GMT

#76

On November 30 2011 02:12 Chill wrote:
You must be SoManyDeadLings and I forget your other aka.

I hated that guy. I didn't know he had an aka, if you remember, what was it?

DarkPlasmaBall

United States43984 Posts

November 29 2011 19:04 GMT

#77

Cool imagery, almost makes addiction and drug use sound nice.

Almost

I'll stick to my healthier, safer, less expensive, and more legal hobbies. Good luck though.

On November 29 2011 19:04 apalemorning wrote:

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uhhh, thanks for the judgement. i think it really says something about someone when they come into a thread and call someone addicted to something "sad".

also, i call bullshit, nothing that isn't heroin feels as good as heroin, lmao.

Sex? Seriously?

Tatari

United States1179 Posts

November 29 2011 19:08 GMT

#78

I always wanted to know what it was like on the receiving end of the syringe full of heroin. You can only guess so much on the observing end.

actionbastrd

Congo598 Posts

November 29 2011 19:16 GMT

#79

On November 30 2011 04:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Cool imagery, almost makes addiction and drug use sound nice.

Almost

I'll stick to my healthier, safer, less expensive, and more legal hobbies. Good luck though.

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Sex? Seriously?

Honestly i would not doubt the fact that heroin feels better than sex. Sex is just awesome because it gives your mind all those pleasure sensations that we all desire instinctively... but it would not surprise me if heroin did much more than that to your mind in the sense of feeling awesome, happy and perfect. Drugs are much crazier than any high you can get naturally, and that probably includes sex. I am sure the pleasure of heroin lasts much longer as well - but i dont even actually know how long a "standard" high on heroin actually lasts.

Tho i have never done heroin, but im just saying it wouldn't be a surprise to me.

Kojak21

Canada1104 Posts

November 29 2011 19:16 GMT

#80

oh look, a junkie

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