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Twoinches
Profile Joined April 2010
United States131 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 15:12:43
August 03 2011 15:12 GMT
#41
Chill, what system are you getting this on? I will be playing a lot of this game. The only games I really play anymore are Fighting games and Starcraft.

Twoinches : Psn
Twoinches : Xbox live

hit me up anytime.
Paris hilton Is my Lord and Savior
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25975 Posts
August 03 2011 15:25 GMT
#42
On August 04 2011 00:12 Twoinches wrote:
Chill, what system are you getting this on? I will be playing a lot of this game. The only games I really play anymore are Fighting games and Starcraft.

Twoinches : Psn
Twoinches : Xbox live

hit me up anytime.

I'll be getting it on XBox and will have to reactivate my membership just to play it. In the meantime, I'm TLChill @ GGPO.
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Belegorm
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States330 Posts
August 03 2011 16:34 GMT
#43
Wow, right as I start getting into 3s I find out some TL guys play, awesome. SSFIVAE is still probably my best game, and as a Guile player I play Remy in 3s... awesome projectiles in a game where projectiles sucks. Demonstration of what it's like to play Remy for those who don't know:



I love one of the comments there: "By the time you master Remy you'll realize you have no friends and your girl has left you for a Ken player "

Still apart from the fact that high-tier usually owns bottom-tier this game especially, 3s rocks!
MUM GIVE ME SOME SCISSORS!!!
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
August 03 2011 16:56 GMT
#44
On August 03 2011 15:10 XYoonZ wrote:
About the whole Japanese vs Non-Japanese in fighting games....I don't know if you have meant these Japanese players in person and seen their play, but if you did, you would realize just how much better they are. If you want to compare it to Starcraft, its like someone playing with 80 APM vs someone playing with 300-400 APM (Not that dramatic but you get the idea). There is a finesse to their joystick movements and techniques that just put them at a level above Non-Japanese players. This allows them to execute moves that others would have difficulty trying to pull off.

the thing is, we only see the top japanese players.

there are lots of average and bad japanese players as well. it's not like BW where playing on korean hours is completely different from playing on regular hours.

if you go to a random arcade in tokyo and you try to play 3rd strike, there will probably be no one there. if someone IS playing they're probably average level or worse. you actually have to seek out the scene and find the best players and find out which arcade they go to and on what days.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25975 Posts
August 03 2011 17:05 GMT
#45
On August 04 2011 01:56 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 15:10 XYoonZ wrote:
About the whole Japanese vs Non-Japanese in fighting games....I don't know if you have meant these Japanese players in person and seen their play, but if you did, you would realize just how much better they are. If you want to compare it to Starcraft, its like someone playing with 80 APM vs someone playing with 300-400 APM (Not that dramatic but you get the idea). There is a finesse to their joystick movements and techniques that just put them at a level above Non-Japanese players. This allows them to execute moves that others would have difficulty trying to pull off.

the thing is, we only see the top japanese players.

there are lots of average and bad japanese players as well. it's not like BW where playing on korean hours is completely different from playing on regular hours.

if you go to a random arcade in tokyo and you try to play 3rd strike, there will probably be no one there. if someone IS playing they're probably average level or worse. you actually have to seek out the scene and find the best players and find out which arcade they go to and on what days.

I never saw a Third Strike machine the whole time I was in Japan in winter 2009. I actively looked for one.

The one time I played vanilla SF4 against a Japanese guy I got doubled perfected by Blanka.
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TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 17:25:36
August 03 2011 17:23 GMT
#46
I'm trying to find that video where US team in 08: Gootecks, J Wong and I think KOFiend get past the first round of SBO, which was the first time ever in 3S. Good ending

Here it is:

kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
August 03 2011 18:33 GMT
#47
On August 04 2011 02:05 Chill wrote:
I never saw a Third Strike machine the whole time I was in Japan in winter 2009. I actively looked for one.

The one time I played vanilla SF4 against a Japanese guy I got doubled perfected by Blanka.

the one i played on was at taito hey in akihabara. there was one guy playing 3s and no one was playing with him, so i tried it out.

i was still in sf4 mode, so i kept trying to jump supers on activation. but otherwise i kept up despite being extremely rusty, and i was never that good to begin with.

Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
August 03 2011 18:44 GMT
#48
Wow what a finish, I'd be holding my breathe after seeing that trade and then when it says Urien won holy crap haha
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Belegorm
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States330 Posts
August 03 2011 18:57 GMT
#49
I think Japanese players are definitely better than American players but it's definitely less of a difference than with Koreans vs non-Koreans in BW. I mean for a number of years IdrA was the only foreigner in a pro-house, there were certainly larger numbers of American 3s players, who also did better, in Japan.

Not to mention that with SF4 the gap has grown even shorter, look at Latif's awesome run at EVO. Another BW comparison: can you see any American player taking down the BW equivalents of Daigo? (basically like someone beating Flash).

MvC3's where I think we actually beat them out. MvC2 Japanese players hardly played so if we beat them it's not really that great of a thing but most of the top Japanese players played MvC3 at EVO and didn't do nearly as well as top Americans.

Are Japanese fighting gamers typically better than non-Japanese? Yes, but that gap's closing and isn't so huge anymore.
MUM GIVE ME SOME SCISSORS!!!
aisight
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States145 Posts
August 03 2011 19:38 GMT
#50
On August 03 2011 14:17 Divinek wrote:
how can you post about 3s and not mention kuroda and his Qqqqqqqqqqqqq

seriously watching him rape all the best players with Q is the most entertaining thing ever, it's just so cool to see someone so much better than everyone else

I agree, Kuroda's Q is definitely a treat to watch.



Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 21:41:38
August 03 2011 21:40 GMT
#51
On August 04 2011 02:05 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 01:56 kainzero wrote:
On August 03 2011 15:10 XYoonZ wrote:
About the whole Japanese vs Non-Japanese in fighting games....I don't know if you have meant these Japanese players in person and seen their play, but if you did, you would realize just how much better they are. If you want to compare it to Starcraft, its like someone playing with 80 APM vs someone playing with 300-400 APM (Not that dramatic but you get the idea). There is a finesse to their joystick movements and techniques that just put them at a level above Non-Japanese players. This allows them to execute moves that others would have difficulty trying to pull off.

the thing is, we only see the top japanese players.

there are lots of average and bad japanese players as well. it's not like BW where playing on korean hours is completely different from playing on regular hours.

if you go to a random arcade in tokyo and you try to play 3rd strike, there will probably be no one there. if someone IS playing they're probably average level or worse. you actually have to seek out the scene and find the best players and find out which arcade they go to and on what days.

I never saw a Third Strike machine the whole time I was in Japan in winter 2009. I actively looked for one.

The one time I played vanilla SF4 against a Japanese guy I got doubled perfected by Blanka.


There aren't really any 3s cabs left in Japan, if you go back head to Game Spot Versus Arcade (6 machines), Game Bingo arcade (8 machines), Kokujin's arcade (I have no idea what it's called/where it is, but i was told he has cabs), or God's Garden (They have four iirc). The japanese 3rd strike scene died pretty much right as sf4 came out, all the big names switched over (Nuki, KO, KZ, Yamagata, Daigo, RX, Kokujin, etc) except Kuroda, and as far as I know Kuroda has quit playing altogether.

The current scene of players are pretty terrible, comparatively.
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3454 Posts
August 04 2011 06:58 GMT
#52




Here are some great vids.
I know Chill has seen them both.
I wanna play soon.
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
romulus3
Profile Joined August 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 01:19:00
August 05 2011 01:17 GMT
#53
On August 04 2011 03:57 Belegorm wrote:
I think Japanese players are definitely better than American players but it's definitely less of a difference than with Koreans vs non-Koreans in BW. I mean for a number of years IdrA was the only foreigner in a pro-house, there were certainly larger numbers of American 3s players, who also did better, in Japan.

Not to mention that with SF4 the gap has grown even shorter, look at Latif's awesome run at EVO. Another BW comparison: can you see any American player taking down the BW equivalents of Daigo? (basically like someone beating Flash).

MvC3's where I think we actually beat them out. MvC2 Japanese players hardly played so if we beat them it's not really that great of a thing but most of the top Japanese players played MvC3 at EVO and didn't do nearly as well as top Americans.

Are Japanese fighting gamers typically better than non-Japanese? Yes, but that gap's closing and isn't so huge anymore.


way to rehash my post bro.
HyperLimen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States278 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 05:11:46
August 05 2011 05:10 GMT
#54
So I installed GGPO and set my TE stick up for it etc to try 3rd strike out since I have never actually played it before.

This game is amazing. Even though I am 100% garbage at it, I can see why it has such a dedicated following.

Some of my favorite things about this game compared to arcade edition:

1) no shortcuts like in sf4 (ex: can't hold down forward and go df down df to shortcut a dp)

2) the dashes, jumping, spacing, etc. in this game are so much more strategic

3) if you whiff or don't link/cancel a super properly you get completely fucked up by someone who knows what they are doing

This game rules, and I love how when you play against a gosu you can barely even touch them if you don't know what you're doing.

I cannot wait for the online edition to come out for xbox now
TO THE BANK! - stephano
Belegorm
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States330 Posts
August 05 2011 05:36 GMT
#55
On August 05 2011 10:17 romulus3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 03:57 Belegorm wrote:
I think Japanese players are definitely better than American players but it's definitely less of a difference than with Koreans vs non-Koreans in BW. I mean for a number of years IdrA was the only foreigner in a pro-house, there were certainly larger numbers of American 3s players, who also did better, in Japan.

Not to mention that with SF4 the gap has grown even shorter, look at Latif's awesome run at EVO. Another BW comparison: can you see any American player taking down the BW equivalents of Daigo? (basically like someone beating Flash).

MvC3's where I think we actually beat them out. MvC2 Japanese players hardly played so if we beat them it's not really that great of a thing but most of the top Japanese players played MvC3 at EVO and didn't do nearly as well as top Americans.

Are Japanese fighting gamers typically better than non-Japanese? Yes, but that gap's closing and isn't so huge anymore.


way to rehash my post bro.


More like I skimmed most of the thread up to this point, gave my 2 cents w/out realising it was the same as yours
MUM GIVE ME SOME SCISSORS!!!
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25975 Posts
August 05 2011 21:14 GMT
#56
I'll be idling as TLChill @ 3S GGPO if anyone wants to play now.
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andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
August 05 2011 21:26 GMT
#57
lets go! skullfire here!
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
August 05 2011 21:32 GMT
#58
wow this pattybam yun is amazing
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
August 05 2011 23:03 GMT
#59
GGS :D

Skullfire you need to learn more wakeup shennanigans/hitconfirms xD
xmShake
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1100 Posts
August 06 2011 19:05 GMT
#60
I'm on GGPO right now as SkillessNewbie. Please play me!
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