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Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
November 02 2009 02:14 GMT
#21
I'm not going to deny that I've been put in a bad mood because of other people's fault I lost a SC game. But honestly, you took this way out of proportion. It's just a game, and despite certain chores that your father should have done, you have to look at this through his eyes. He sees his son wasting a time with a useless game, which he doesn't even understand, and that he is choosing that waste of time over listening to his direct request. Such a request was simple to fulfill and denied for a useless task. And then (because he doesn't see that you see SC as important, or at least why), his son fights at him back because of displaced anger for losing a game. True, a slight exaggeration, but that's how I interpret my parent's similar reactions to this. Same thing happens, but you have to think objectively. You are ignoring a chore because you would rather play a game, and getting angry from it. So to your question, yes.
SanguineToss
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada815 Posts
November 02 2009 02:20 GMT
#22
You did a couple things wrong

1) wrong section
2) wrong attitude
3) wrong choice of words

= your gonna get flamed.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 02:25:07
November 02 2009 02:21 GMT
#23
Can you say whether you live in an appartment or if you have your own laundry-room or whatever it's called in english?

I mean, it seems completely, completely insane to me to go through the trouble of asking someone else to empty the washer when you could just temporarily take them out and place them on top of the washer or whatever and then tell you to sort it out when you have the time.

I can see it being different if you have to use a public laundry-room, but even then it seems like a LOT less work to just take care of it yourself (I mean, you had to go down there to find out he'd forgotten stuff right...? so now you go back, then back again? seems pointless).

I dunno, I think he's in the wrong.

Oh and unless what I'm being asked to do is absolutely URGENT, there is no way I'd quit a game over it I'd ask my opponent to pause if it was kind of important I guess, but in general I'd just go with a "when I'm done" answer.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27154 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 02:23:29
November 02 2009 02:22 GMT
#24
I mean, it seems completely, completely insane to me to go through the trouble of asking someone else to empty the washer when you could just temporarily take them out and place them on top of the washer or whatever and then tell you to sort it out when you have the time.


It's just a game, and despite certain chores that your father should have done, you have to look at this through his eyes.


But the kid started the laundry, and rather than finishing it he played SC. This caused a backlog of work at the washer for someone else who needed to use it for work the next day. His father shouldn't have done anything.

Everyone forgets shit in the washer, but you don't say "you do it" to someone after you are the one that screws up.
ModeratorGodfather
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
November 02 2009 02:23 GMT
#25
He starts ranting about how at work, its alot better because everyone knows their responsibilities and yada yada, I cut him off and ask him to answer me, yes or no, I'f I need to wash some shirts for tomorrow, and I come home and find the washer filled with washed towels, do I call you and tell you to race home from work and empty the washer so I can wash my clothes? He tells me I'm not getting a yes or no answer and he walks away.


Did you seriously say that? You compare him being at work providing for the family, to you playing starcraft? You sound like you are still stuck in that childish mentality where you're always right and your parents are always wrong or mean. I mean come on, you actually argued over this? Put the game on pause and rush to the washer and do your thing. Even if the guy unpaused losing a starcraft game is nothing compared to being a brat to your father.
Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
November 02 2009 02:28 GMT
#26
Was I the only one hoping that this would be be about a possibly illegal maneuver in an actual towel fight?
In DotA you could
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 02 2009 02:32 GMT
#27
On November 02 2009 11:22 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
I mean, it seems completely, completely insane to me to go through the trouble of asking someone else to empty the washer when you could just temporarily take them out and place them on top of the washer or whatever and then tell you to sort it out when you have the time.


Show nested quote +
It's just a game, and despite certain chores that your father should have done, you have to look at this through his eyes.


But the kid started the laundry, and rather than finishing it he played SC. This caused a backlog of work at the washer for someone else who needed to use it for work the next day. His father shouldn't have done anything.

Everyone forgets shit in the washer, but you don't say "you do it" to someone after you are the one that screws up.

I just don't understand how it's something worth fighting about... It just wouldn't even cross my mind to ask someone else to do it when I could just take literally 30 seconds to put them on top of/in the dryer or something.

Of course, logistically it might be different (ie public laundry-room... [laundromat?]) for others in which case my answer could change. Anyway, I would agree that saying "you do it" isn't the most diplomatic path, saying "Sure, give me 10 minutes and I'll take care of it" seems much more reasonable.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
November 02 2009 02:35 GMT
#28
On November 02 2009 11:20 SanguineToss wrote:
You did a couple things wrong

1) wrong section
2) wrong attitude
3) wrong choice of words

= your gonna get flamed.


i was thinking the same thing.



seems like there's more to the fighting than we actually know, so there's no way to say who's actually wrong.


and who/what is towelfight?
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
November 02 2009 02:36 GMT
#29
On November 02 2009 11:28 Elemenope wrote:
Was I the only one hoping that this would be be about a possibly illegal maneuver in an actual towel fight?

haha yeah me too. Reading all this drama just depresses me.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
ReDShiFT
Profile Joined March 2009
United States106 Posts
November 02 2009 02:38 GMT
#30
Probably could have been solved with a more polite response, like, " Sorry, Could you put the towels on/in the (insert basket, table, dryer) for me?" or if you want to earn some points with dad, to have him leave his shirts next to the washer and that after this game you will take your shit out and put his in. Problem hopefully solved and your dad wont think you are as much of a an ungrateful son. Oh and to answer the query yes you were being an asshole and as was your father. The difference was your father was more justified in being an asshole.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 02 2009 02:39 GMT
#31
On November 02 2009 11:36 Luddite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2009 11:28 Elemenope wrote:
Was I the only one hoping that this would be be about a possibly illegal maneuver in an actual towel fight?

haha yeah me too. Reading all this drama just depresses me.



Oh jesus me too, I was expecting a tragic rattail encounter involving arterial spray and maybe some cranial trauma.

Curses.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27154 Posts
November 02 2009 02:41 GMT
#32
On November 02 2009 11:32 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2009 11:22 Manifesto7 wrote:
I mean, it seems completely, completely insane to me to go through the trouble of asking someone else to empty the washer when you could just temporarily take them out and place them on top of the washer or whatever and then tell you to sort it out when you have the time.


It's just a game, and despite certain chores that your father should have done, you have to look at this through his eyes.


But the kid started the laundry, and rather than finishing it he played SC. This caused a backlog of work at the washer for someone else who needed to use it for work the next day. His father shouldn't have done anything.

Everyone forgets shit in the washer, but you don't say "you do it" to someone after you are the one that screws up.

I just don't understand how it's something worth fighting about... It just wouldn't even cross my mind to ask someone else to do it when I could just take literally 30 seconds to put them on top of/in the dryer or something.


But I don't think the fight was on until the kid says "why dont you do it" while playing a computer game. That aside, I'm willing to bet this isn't the first time that something has been left undone. How many times are you going to pick up after someone else without saying anything?
ModeratorGodfather
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
November 02 2009 02:43 GMT
#33
On November 02 2009 11:35 29 fps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2009 11:20 SanguineToss wrote:
You did a couple things wrong

1) wrong section
2) wrong attitude
3) wrong choice of words

= your gonna get flamed.


i was thinking the same thing.



seems like there's more to the fighting than we actually know, so there's no way to say who's actually wrong.


and who/what is towelfight?

fight over towels
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28702 Posts
November 02 2009 02:45 GMT
#34
you're both correct and incorrect

he couldve just moved the towels out of the laundry machine, im certain you guys possess some sort of spot where wet towels can be for 15 minutes until you're done playing.

you on the other hand should have taken out his clothes at 2 am when you noticed his shirts being in laundried. taking the high road (and NOT making a point of it) is the best way to respond to this kind of thing.

as for the whole "respect your dad because he is your dad", that's a bunch of bullshit, especially when you are 22 years old. if your dad is a jackass, he doesnt deserve your respect. but, you do need to realize that he gets influenced by non-related happenings just like you - you were slightly angry and responded in a more disagreeable way than intended because you were losing in starcraft. he might have had a similar experience making him pissed, in fact he might have similar experiences frequently that frequently make him angry. making his life easier through just doing a little more chores might just make your relationship better.
Moderator
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22256 Posts
November 02 2009 02:46 GMT
#35
You're an absolute ass; basically an immature teenager. I know because I did the same crap when I was that age... tbh, my Dad put up with a LOT of crap with me, and I honestly don't know if I could do the same.

I'm going to guess you're in the 16-19 age range - that being the case, you have very low accountability and responsibilities... real life will hit you in a few years, and then you'll understand, I honestly don't think you would right now.

The long and short is that, quite frankly, you are extremely unappreciative of everything you have and that he has done for you - you're young, that's just how it goes. We've all had that attitude, you can ask anyone here who is in their mid twenties and beyond.

The best advice I can say is apologize to your father asap. Trust me, it will mean a LOT to him, even if he doesn't show it. In a few years you'll be out on your own and it'll get much better... use this type of thing as motivation to do well with school/work to put yourself in a position to move out. My Dad did a lot for me, but we butted heads all the time, especially over things like how much time I spent playing video games, and things I did or didn't do around the house, and now that I'm out on my own we're real cool all the time
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22256 Posts
November 02 2009 02:50 GMT
#36
On November 02 2009 10:59 Julmust wrote:
You have a valid point in that he most likely wasted more time and energy to walk to your room and take a huge fight about it, then to just take it out himself.


I agree the rest of your post, but this part, I can 100% guarantee Dad is fed up because this is NOT the first time he has done things like this.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
November 02 2009 02:50 GMT
#37
On November 02 2009 11:45 Liquid`Drone wrote:
as for the whole "respect your dad because he is your dad", that's a bunch of bullshit, especially when you are 22 years old. if your dad is a jackass, he doesnt deserve your respect.


seriously?
i don't care how much of an asshole my father is, him providing for me when i was fucking useless to the world is enough to earn my respect and forget any of his little faults for pretty much ever, whether i'm living alone or with him (especially moreso in the latter case)
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
SanguineToss
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada815 Posts
November 02 2009 02:50 GMT
#38
On November 02 2009 11:46 EvilTeletubby wrote:
You're an absolute ass; basically an immature teenager. I know because I did the same crap when I was that age... tbh, my Dad put up with a LOT of crap with me, and I honestly don't know if I could do the same.

I'm going to guess you're in the 16-19 age range - that being the case, you have very low accountability and responsibilities... real life will hit you in a few years, and then you'll understand, I honestly don't think you would right now.

The long and short is that, quite frankly, you are extremely unappreciative of everything you have and that he has done for you - you're young, that's just how it goes. We've all had that attitude, you can ask anyone here who is in their mid twenties and beyond.

The best advice I can say is apologize to your father asap. Trust me, it will mean a LOT to him, even if he doesn't show it. In a few years you'll be out on your own and it'll get much better... use this type of thing as motivation to do well with school/work to put yourself in a position to move out. My Dad did a lot for me, but we butted heads all the time, especially over things like how much time I spent playing video games, and things I did or didn't do around the house, and now that I'm out on my own we're real cool all the time


he said he was 22.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22256 Posts
November 02 2009 02:51 GMT
#39
On November 02 2009 11:50 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2009 11:45 Liquid`Drone wrote:
as for the whole "respect your dad because he is your dad", that's a bunch of bullshit, especially when you are 22 years old. if your dad is a jackass, he doesnt deserve your respect.


seriously?
i don't care how much of an asshole my father is, him providing for me when i was fucking useless to the world is enough to earn my respect and forget any of his little faults for pretty much ever, whether i'm living alone or with him (especially moreso in the latter case)


Haha, sorry Eri, I agree with JeeJee on this one. Especially when I see nothing done by the Dad that makes him a jackass - although the son probably perceives it that way.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
biomedical
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
235 Posts
November 02 2009 02:52 GMT
#40
If it was a cute female friend asking you wud have fallen over yourself to do it. Imagine yourself standing by a washer like ur dad, and the guy shouts 'i cant do it, im busy reading'. What a complete cretin - you wud be on here blogging about him too. Maybe if u had set a mutual precident where u picking up after each other is the norm, but OBVIOUSLY that doesnt exist between u.
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