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Baltimore, USA22260 Posts
On November 02 2009 11:50 SanguineToss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 11:46 EvilTeletubby wrote:You're an absolute ass; basically an immature teenager. I know because I did the same crap when I was that age... tbh, my Dad put up with a LOT of crap with me, and I honestly don't know if I could do the same. I'm going to guess you're in the 16-19 age range - that being the case, you have very low accountability and responsibilities... real life will hit you in a few years, and then you'll understand, I honestly don't think you would right now. The long and short is that, quite frankly, you are extremely unappreciative of everything you have and that he has done for you - you're young, that's just how it goes. We've all had that attitude, you can ask anyone here who is in their mid twenties and beyond. The best advice I can say is apologize to your father asap. Trust me, it will mean a LOT to him, even if he doesn't show it. In a few years you'll be out on your own and it'll get much better... use this type of thing as motivation to do well with school/work to put yourself in a position to move out. My Dad did a lot for me, but we butted heads all the time, especially over things like how much time I spent playing video games, and things I did or didn't do around the house, and now that I'm out on my own we're real cool all the time  he said he was 22.
Wow, you're right... I read that like twice and still missed it.
In that case, he's an even bigger jackass, and I can see why the Dad is getting so irritated. That's really the age when you really really want to move out and do your own thing.
Edit - Catch]22, I'm not trying to come down real hard on you, but as JeeJee previously mentioned, you really need to see this from the other side. One piece of advice I think a lot of people need to realize sooner rather than later is that the world owes you absolutely nothing.
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konadora
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you are both immature, your father should have just taken the towels out of the washer, and at the very least placed them on top of a surface till you could come to place them in the dryer, and even that is immature because he could just put it in the dryer. He went up to you looking for a fight, maybe he was frustrated from work, whatever it was is irrelevant and he is being immature.
You on the other hand, were playing sc and told your father to go do it himself? ?? ? ??? wtf is wrong with you. if he is being a dick ( which he obviously is) trying to spiral the situation out of control by being as immature is not going to help.
when you move out tensions will probably unwind.
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On November 02 2009 11:32 FrozenArbiter wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 11:22 Manifesto7 wrote:I mean, it seems completely, completely insane to me to go through the trouble of asking someone else to empty the washer when you could just temporarily take them out and place them on top of the washer or whatever and then tell you to sort it out when you have the time. It's just a game, and despite certain chores that your father should have done, you have to look at this through his eyes. But the kid started the laundry, and rather than finishing it he played SC. This caused a backlog of work at the washer for someone else who needed to use it for work the next day. His father shouldn't have done anything. Everyone forgets shit in the washer, but you don't say "you do it" to someone after you are the one that screws up. I just don't understand how it's something worth fighting about... It just wouldn't even cross my mind to ask someone else to do it when I could just take literally 30 seconds to put them on top of/in the dryer or something. . Couldn't the same be said of the son? Seems like he started the fight just as much as the father. Maybe he was already in a bad mood about something else? Something more important than defending muta harass? Most kids get in stupid fights with their parents but seriously what could you say to him? "Can't you see I'm microing against Lurkers?!?!"
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On November 02 2009 11:54 konadora wrote:
sc addict
arent we all -_-
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He probably needed those shirts for work, which he does to pay for you to live despite the fact that you're 22 and should be providing for yourself. I would be embarrassed.
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On November 02 2009 11:53 EvilTeletubby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 11:50 SanguineToss wrote:On November 02 2009 11:46 EvilTeletubby wrote:You're an absolute ass; basically an immature teenager. I know because I did the same crap when I was that age... tbh, my Dad put up with a LOT of crap with me, and I honestly don't know if I could do the same. I'm going to guess you're in the 16-19 age range - that being the case, you have very low accountability and responsibilities... real life will hit you in a few years, and then you'll understand, I honestly don't think you would right now. The long and short is that, quite frankly, you are extremely unappreciative of everything you have and that he has done for you - you're young, that's just how it goes. We've all had that attitude, you can ask anyone here who is in their mid twenties and beyond. The best advice I can say is apologize to your father asap. Trust me, it will mean a LOT to him, even if he doesn't show it. In a few years you'll be out on your own and it'll get much better... use this type of thing as motivation to do well with school/work to put yourself in a position to move out. My Dad did a lot for me, but we butted heads all the time, especially over things like how much time I spent playing video games, and things I did or didn't do around the house, and now that I'm out on my own we're real cool all the time he said he was 22. Wow, you're right... I read that like twice and still missed it. In that case, he's an even bigger jackass, and I can see why the Dad is getting so irritated. That's really the age when you really really want to move out and do your own thing. Edit - Catch]22, I'm not trying to come down real hard on you, but as JeeJee previously mentioned, you really need to see this from the other side. One piece of advice I think a lot of people need to realize sooner rather than later is that the world owes you absolutely nothing.
It's laundry.
This isn't about bowing down to those who shelter you, or sucking up to your boss.
It's laundry.
It's a task that most human beings can achieve within 60 seconds (I've seen faster, but I don't have proof so don't call me out please).
Father or son, you are both human. You don't take your laundry out immediately after it finishes because you are human and spending your time elsewhere. So when someone comes across it, and feels that because they provide for you that you should be be mr.perfect about every little thing -- they are being ridiculous.
That being said -- you don't talk back to ridiculous people.
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If you were playing a heated ranked ICCup game is one thing... but a Muta D? You're taking it too far.
+ Show Spoiler +I'm kidding, You're a jackass either way.
edit: Also this lol:
On November 02 2009 11:28 Elemenope wrote:Was I the only one hoping that this would be be about a possibly illegal maneuver in an actual towel fight? 
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On November 02 2009 11:28 Elemenope wrote:Was I the only one hoping that this would be be about a possibly illegal maneuver in an actual towel fight?
yeah i imagined the op would be about him whipping some other guy with a towel and wondering if that makes him a dick
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I know how you feel because sometimes me and my parents get into similar arguments over immature stuff like this. Although I realized that I was wrong and being a immature kid, it's hard to say sorry after the parents start ranting about shit and yelling at you about things that has nothing even closely to do with why the argument started for like half a hour. Sometimes you can snap and want to just snap back and defend yourself to all the unrelated shit they keep on talking about but that just escalates the problem further.
After I cool down a bit from these situations, I always do something to apologize because you got to see it from your parents point of view to understand why this shit happened. As everyone already pointed out, your dad raised and cared for you for 22 fucking years(probably asked nothing in return), and when you won't help your dad out/do your share of work( especially after he gave you 130 bucks for your birthday a few days ago) to play a video game, your dad will understandably get pissed at how unappreciative his son is/appears to be. He will sometimes rant longer than you may feel he should and annoy you, but he has every right to do so and you have no right to argue back no matter how small the chore is since you yelled back at him cause you lost a video game.
However, no one was the asshole during the fight(it was just human nature),. Yeah, your dad wasn't that right as he could have easily waited for something so simple, but once again, you were the 22 year old living at home playing a video game and not doing anything else important when you could have paused. I might sound condescending, but I'm not because I go through the same thing only to realize 30 minutes later "shit, was that really worth 1up?"
And everyone who kinda flamed you in a stuck up way is a hypocrite.We've all had similar situations when we ignored our parents who asked us to do a quick errand/chore and started a fight for unimportant shit like a good game, tv show, an unimportant phone call etc. Its part of being a teenager(or you can argue all teenagers are assholes towards parents).
In summary, learn to handle it better and if your dad still won't give you time, just go do it. Arguing with him in these conditions will never leave you on top.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On November 02 2009 12:00 tegg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 11:32 FrozenArbiter wrote:On November 02 2009 11:22 Manifesto7 wrote:I mean, it seems completely, completely insane to me to go through the trouble of asking someone else to empty the washer when you could just temporarily take them out and place them on top of the washer or whatever and then tell you to sort it out when you have the time. It's just a game, and despite certain chores that your father should have done, you have to look at this through his eyes. But the kid started the laundry, and rather than finishing it he played SC. This caused a backlog of work at the washer for someone else who needed to use it for work the next day. His father shouldn't have done anything. Everyone forgets shit in the washer, but you don't say "you do it" to someone after you are the one that screws up. I just don't understand how it's something worth fighting about... It just wouldn't even cross my mind to ask someone else to do it when I could just take literally 30 seconds to put them on top of/in the dryer or something. . Couldn't the same be said of the son? Seems like he started the fight just as much as the father. Maybe he was already in a bad mood about something else? Something more important than defending muta harass? Most kids get in stupid fights with their parents but seriously what could you say to him? "Can't you see I'm microing against Lurkers?!?!"
Yeah, a much better response would have been "sure, can you give me 5 minutes?" or pausing the game (if possible).
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United States24788 Posts
You have to take a step back and look at everything that happened objectively... you are coming across as having completely the wrong attitude. Your dad did not know how to deal with the situation when you started arguing with him and is somewhat enabling you so it's partially his fault, but he does not seem to have any negative intentions.
You should not start arguing with him while you are in the wrong. If you want to go down the road of proving you are right about the issue, do it after you have taken responsibility for your laundry and cleaned it up or whatever shit it is that you are supposed to be doing.
Again, your terrible attitude is not necessarily entirely your fault but your life will most likely be much better if you take responsibility for growing up into your own hands.
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Dude just listen to your dad, just GG and go do it. It's not worth the fucking problems it caused by saying that disrespectful shit.
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On November 02 2009 12:16 FrozenArbiter wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 12:00 tegg wrote:On November 02 2009 11:32 FrozenArbiter wrote:On November 02 2009 11:22 Manifesto7 wrote:I mean, it seems completely, completely insane to me to go through the trouble of asking someone else to empty the washer when you could just temporarily take them out and place them on top of the washer or whatever and then tell you to sort it out when you have the time. It's just a game, and despite certain chores that your father should have done, you have to look at this through his eyes. But the kid started the laundry, and rather than finishing it he played SC. This caused a backlog of work at the washer for someone else who needed to use it for work the next day. His father shouldn't have done anything. Everyone forgets shit in the washer, but you don't say "you do it" to someone after you are the one that screws up. I just don't understand how it's something worth fighting about... It just wouldn't even cross my mind to ask someone else to do it when I could just take literally 30 seconds to put them on top of/in the dryer or something. . Couldn't the same be said of the son? Seems like he started the fight just as much as the father. Maybe he was already in a bad mood about something else? Something more important than defending muta harass? Most kids get in stupid fights with their parents but seriously what could you say to him? "Can't you see I'm microing against Lurkers?!?!" Yeah, a much better response would have been "sure, can you give me 5 minutes?" or pausing the game (if possible).
yeah but the issue was (and why it was initially ridiculous on the father's part), was that he was standing at the washer and decided to call down his son to do his 10-20 second task, instead of being reasonable and being like, "oh, it's just laundry."
it's not boot camp, it's a family household. and i think people who believe parents should run a household like a boot camp are nuts.
and im not saying i agree with the OP's attitude, because it was stupid as well -- but his frustration is pretty natural.
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Sweden33719 Posts
Yes for sure, I posted the same thing higher up in that quote chain!! 
See? I mean, it seems completely, completely insane to me to go through the trouble of asking someone else to empty the washer when you could just temporarily take them out and place them on top of the washer or whatever and then tell you to sort it out when you have the time.
That was me ;p
I'm really, really surprised at a lot of the responses in this thread, but I guess people have different habits.
On November 02 2009 12:18 LordWeird wrote:
Dude just listen to your dad, just GG and go do it. It's not worth the fucking problems it caused by saying that disrespectful shit.
In itself, "can't you do it?" is not disrespectful. However, having some measure of experience with the annoyance losing at SC can cause... I can well imagine that it wasn't said in the most diplomatic of ways.
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This is the kind of shit I hate about living at home. I know im in the wrong in a situation like this but the fact that i feel like im being pushed around by my parents (father specifically) really bothers the shit out of me. Theres a difference between asking someone to do something and telling someone. Im combative when people tell me to do something. While yes you should have taken your shit out of the dryer I feel like a situation like this could be approached better by your father. Like say talk to you later calmly about it instead of busting in on you while you are obviously busy.
I appreciate my parents providing for me but its incredibly irritating. If you ask me for help with something dont just sit around and watch......thats irritating as fuck. If something takes you 2 seconds to do and you are already there what the fuck are you asking me to come in and do it for. Id never do that to them.
I think situations like this depend on your parents and your relationships with them personally. My dad provides but hes messy as shit and pretends like its not his stuff. Every now and then hell go on a tirade about how the house is a mess yada yada yada when all of this stuff is his shit! I dont ever expect them to pickup my shit....why the hell would you yell at someone to pick up your own stuff?
Bah....I can sympathize with this guy is all I tried to get at. Even if you look at the situation and realize you could handle it better. Emotions are a fucked up thing.
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On November 02 2009 12:24 FrozenArbiter wrote:Yes for sure, I posted the same thing higher up in that quote chain!! See? Show nested quote +I mean, it seems completely, completely insane to me to go through the trouble of asking someone else to empty the washer when you could just temporarily take them out and place them on top of the washer or whatever and then tell you to sort it out when you have the time. That was me ;p I'm really, really surprised at a lot of the responses in this thread, but I guess people have different habits.
well it's good to see reasonable human beings on here that will make for hopefully sane parents.
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you are an ass.
how hard will it be to tell him to leave the shirts so you can take out the towels and do the shirts after your game have finish?
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Norway28875 Posts
On November 02 2009 11:50 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 11:45 Liquid`Drone wrote:
as for the whole "respect your dad because he is your dad", that's a bunch of bullshit, especially when you are 22 years old. if your dad is a jackass, he doesnt deserve your respect. seriously? i don't care how much of an asshole my father is, him providing for me when i was fucking useless to the world is enough to earn my respect and forget any of his little faults for pretty much ever, whether i'm living alone or with him (especially moreso in the latter case)
im not saying you shouldnt respect your father if he has some tiny flaws or whatever, but if he's a complete jackass? what if he beats your mom? all im saying is that fatherhood doesn't equal respect by default.. a good dad obviously deserves it, and im not saying op's dad is a bad father or not worthy of respect. just that it's not some kind of default state, respect needs to be earned even for a parent.
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