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I sometimes really hate this world

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nimysa
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States383 Posts
September 12 2009 01:54 GMT
#1
I sometimes really hate this world because generally, I don't understand the irrational mechanisms by which the people and the institutions operate in this world, and the stupidity of rational people. I was thinking the other day about something, something I didn't understand. Now, of course this has been pointed out in the past and some of you are going to pounce on me, but I am not trying to be original. The thing is that I don't understand why the rest of the world wants to imitate American culture so badly. Not to say that there is absolutely nothing wrong with things like the philosophy of the founding fathers or the whole idea of having a chance to rebuild yourself; what I don't understand is why people take this current modern culture of this country to such extremes as to incorporate it into their mindsets and take it's programmings. Why does everyone want to copy "American" fashion trends, have American accents, buy the same things as Americans etc? (you get the question I'm trying to ask)

What is so superior, so attractive, so elegant and enticing about the modern culture of this country? I'm confused but I hate people for following this culture so blindly because there's a certain characteristic of this culture not allowing any room for rational or intellectual thought.

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AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
September 12 2009 01:55 GMT
#2
Because America was the dominant country in the world, people are going to come here and acquire its tastes. But not all American stuff is good, even a lot of Americans don't buy their own cars for example
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Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
September 12 2009 02:02 GMT
#3
I have never heard of anyone going out of their way to buy something or act a certain way simply because it was American. I have however seen the opposite.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-12 02:17:37
September 12 2009 02:16 GMT
#4
On September 12 2009 11:02 Etherone wrote:
I have never heard of anyone going out of their way to buy something or act a certain way simply because it was American. I have however seen the opposite.

you haven't been to many places I assume, he's actually quite right with his post. simple look at fashion and foods in asian countries would suffice.
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BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-12 02:17:18
September 12 2009 02:16 GMT
#5
On September 12 2009 11:02 Etherone wrote:
I have never heard of anyone going out of their way to buy something or act a certain way simply because it was American. I have however seen the opposite.

Same here...

OP can you give us some examples? Like specific instances that caused you to make this thread?

On September 12 2009 11:16 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
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On September 12 2009 11:02 Etherone wrote:
I have never heard of anyone going out of their way to buy something or act a certain way simply because it was American. I have however seen the opposite.

you haven't been to many places I assume, he's actually quite right with his post

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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
September 12 2009 02:17 GMT
#6

small edit
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
September 12 2009 02:18 GMT
#7
funny thing is that in america, everybody thinks its cool to be asian/black/canadian/european/russian

i dont see the problem here
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-12 02:22:17
September 12 2009 02:20 GMT
#8
with black you mean wear african tribal colors?

you're just talking about black americans, which really is still american. music too actually. music/clothing/food is pretty defining for culture and the american music/clothing/food can seriously be found in any country over the world. strangely enough I would say if anything america lacks culture a lot more than the countries that follow them, strange world.
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mg
Profile Joined August 2009
88 Posts
September 12 2009 02:23 GMT
#9
We have the culture of having no culture. Odd phenomenon.
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-12 02:33:38
September 12 2009 02:26 GMT
#10
The rational capacities people can exhibit do not guarantee rational decision making in every facet of life. The fact that human brains tend to lean towards heuristic over algorithmic thought aligns with the taxing nature of the rational actor model, which demands time and effort to degrees which not all problems in life warrant.

People are rarely rational; at least let them be irrational in areas where little harm is done.

EDIT: More on topic, I'm under the impression that much of the global respect for America (which may translate into cultural respect too) was born in the wake of our eminence following World War II.
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Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
September 12 2009 02:36 GMT
#11
Death to all who oppose the swarm!
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ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
September 12 2009 02:41 GMT
#12
Wow...I always wanted to be asian since they're smart and they have awesome technology. Oh, well.
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ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
September 12 2009 02:42 GMT
#13
On September 12 2009 11:23 mg wrote:
We have the culture of having no culture. Odd phenomenon.


That's not true. It's actually a bunch of cultures side by side that affect one another since they're in such close proximity. I'm not so naive to believe in a "melting pot" but a mosaic is not such a bad metaphor.
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Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
September 12 2009 02:45 GMT
#14
On September 12 2009 11:26 EchOne wrote:
EDIT: More on topic, I'm under the impression that much of the global respect for America (which may translate into cultural respect too) was born in the wake of our eminence following World War II.


You guys actually dont get much respect for that at all. Most of the world sees it as you guys jumping in after the war was over to try and take some of the glory.

The reason for everyone moving towards the american culture is simple though. America is the home of television. It's where all the big budget TV shows are made which then get distributed around the world. Due to the show's country of origin, the shows depict american culture. So when everyone around the world turns their TV on at night, they get a nice big dose of America, which filters into their everyday lives.
jonnyp
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States415 Posts
September 12 2009 03:17 GMT
#15
On September 12 2009 11:45 Fen wrote:
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On September 12 2009 11:26 EchOne wrote:
EDIT: More on topic, I'm under the impression that much of the global respect for America (which may translate into cultural respect too) was born in the wake of our eminence following World War II.


You guys actually dont get much respect for that at all. Most of the world sees it as you guys jumping in after the war was over to try and take some of the glory.

The reason for everyone moving towards the american culture is simple though. America is the home of television. It's where all the big budget TV shows are made which then get distributed around the world. Due to the show's country of origin, the shows depict american culture. So when everyone around the world turns their TV on at night, they get a nice big dose of America, which filters into their everyday lives.


O_o that's kinda weird considering we were supplying the allies with virtually everything well before we joined the war militarily. that and we won the war in the east virtually by ourselves.

at the OP, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. here in america it's trendy to be "open-minded" and "indie", going out to a sushi bar or chinese restaurant is a sign of this. in some places im sure it's the opposite where people want to show their "awareness" of american culture.

btw, there are plenty of people that just like sushi or chinese, but ive known quite a few who do it only because it seems the "in" thing to do.
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Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
September 12 2009 03:23 GMT
#16
Uhhh, people want to be like America because America is awesome. If I wasnt American I'd want to be like America as well.

Maybe I just like my country a lot? I dunno.

I mean... we DID make Starcraft.
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wok
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States504 Posts
September 12 2009 03:29 GMT
#17
Gosh... me too. The other world is just sooo much better.
I'll race you to defeatism... you win.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-12 03:43:13
September 12 2009 03:38 GMT
#18
I think all cultures borrow from one another, and have interests in each other. Which is healthy and normal. Genetic diversity is important.

I don't think anyone is quite ready to adopt pancake mayo pops yet though.

Foreign food is popular in all cultures. So are foreign movies and literature. Maybe USA is king of movies, but someone has to be. Britain is kind of literature IMO, Japan king of mature anime, and France of fashion. Music is arguably everywhere, but definitely America has no monopoly on it.

We all 'copy' each other. I would say embracing other cultures is a good thing. On the whole we remain ourselves.

On September 12 2009 12:23 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
Uhhh, people want to be like America because America is awesome. If I wasnt American I'd want to be like America as well.

Maybe I just like my country a lot? I dunno.

I mean... we DID make Starcraft.

Who is king of e-sports? Who does everyone try to emulate when trying to popularize e-sports? Maybe you're half joking, but give me a break. How many Americans wish they were Japanese?
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
September 12 2009 04:00 GMT
#19
Upper class of Mexico loves to be American and have American stuff I believe
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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11143 Posts
September 12 2009 04:20 GMT
#20
On September 12 2009 10:54 nimysa wrote:
rational people

I have highlighted your mistaken assumption!
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Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
September 12 2009 04:25 GMT
#21
What exactly is "american culture"? Thing is, "american" culture is so diverse, that even if you tried you wouldn't be able to mimic all of it.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
September 12 2009 04:53 GMT
#22
On September 12 2009 11:45 Fen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2009 11:26 EchOne wrote:
EDIT: More on topic, I'm under the impression that much of the global respect for America (which may translate into cultural respect too) was born in the wake of our eminence following World War II.


You guys actually dont get much respect for that at all. Most of the world sees it as you guys jumping in after the war was over to try and take some of the glory.

The reason for everyone moving towards the american culture is simple though. America is the home of television. It's where all the big budget TV shows are made which then get distributed around the world. Due to the show's country of origin, the shows depict american culture. So when everyone around the world turns their TV on at night, they get a nice big dose of America, which filters into their everyday lives.



hehe already put the words from my mouth.

Let me give you an example here:

So, I'm in a different country right? and most of the people here are really westernized. (the food, clothing etc.) I mean its due to the fact that a big influence in our lives is the T.V., There is this a local channel here dedicated to american shows like The Unit, The Nine, Prison Break, Saving Grace etc.

Then we also have shows like "Pinoy Big Brother, Pinoy Fear Factor, Pinoy Survivor" All american shows that were copycatted by the our countrymen. LOL!

So, how can you not say that the rest of the world (not literally everyone) is doesn't need westernized when your entertainment shows are watched all over the world.

P.S. I'd myself have an could already be westernized but still, you would see me eating balut, kare-kare, bagoong (fermented shrimp paste) all those nasty delicious filipino cuisines which makes me 50/50 in that department.
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D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-12 05:06:49
September 12 2009 05:03 GMT
#23
1 - Study psicology then major on cultural influence, you will surely understand it.

2 - Most tech culture comes from america, like tv series, movies, computer games, etc...

3 - Theres plenty of patriotism out there, maybe you just havent seen it, but it doesnt mean it doesnt exist, theres extremes both ways, personaly I want some stuff the americans have for sale (computers, games, pnp rpg's etc..) I dont care about your music or your fashion standards.

4 - America like to give its own citizens the image that it is the center of the world, as if 50% of everything that happens, happens in america.

5 - quoting you "What is so superior, so attractive, so elegant and enticing about the modern culture of this country? I'm confused but I hate people for following this culture so blindly because there's a certain characteristic of this culture not allowing any room for rational or intellectual thought."

Nothing really, you are an empire decaying after starting extremelly impopular wars, you guys are fat and ugly(ofcoursenotall), you basically tried to screw up the whole world while you were on top to keep yourselves on top, you love guns and capitalism, you love to think that everything in the US is the bestests best in the whole world, if you didnt had hollywood and the music industry, you would just be another name amongst many, and probably a much more unpopular one.

Dont kid yourself, most immigrants who go to america dont wanna be american, they want to enjoy the american way of life, which is impossible without assimilating your spoonfed culture or mixed values.

You will never be trully american, until lincoln balls are so deep in our mouth you that cant talk anything other than it.
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Sky
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Jordan812 Posts
September 12 2009 06:20 GMT
#24
My Japanese roommate acts like an American to get laid.
...jumping into cold water whenever I get the chance.
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