EPTme too yo =/.
We seem to be doing alright without me though ^^. I vote for DrH to placehold~
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
me too yo =/. We seem to be doing alright without me though ^^. I vote for DrH to placehold~ | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/2PhRr.png) STREAM LINK: http://www.livestream.com/deconduo HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE | ||
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ilovejonn
Canada2548 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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TranceStorm
1616 Posts
jaminz is a much stronger candidate than kevconsim for me. Reading from his previous games, his contribution always seems to be rather limited which makes him an extremely uncertain lynch target in my opinion. On the issue of the roleblocks, I think we should wait another day before we make any judgments on whether m0nster or Barundur are lying. It seems especially strange that the number of people roleblocked should go from 1 to 2 (it seems far more likely for 2 people to have been roleblocked on the first night and only 1 on the 2nd night considering the collection of hits between the assassins). If there are indeed 2 roleblockers, why would they choose to not roleblock on the first day? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On April 18 2011 07:54 TranceStorm wrote: I'm going to vote for jaminz for today's lynch. Mig's post on jaminz is especially incriminating for me on jaminz' remarkable change in posting behavior. Considering how helpful he seemed to be in the previous game that Mig spotted (Haunted Mafia), you would expect that jaminz would contribute a little more in the current circumstances. jaminz is a much stronger candidate than kevconsim for me. Reading from his previous games, his contribution always seems to be rather limited which makes him an extremely uncertain lynch target in my opinion. On the issue of the roleblocks, I think we should wait another day before we make any judgments on whether m0nster or Barundur are lying. It seems especially strange that the number of people roleblocked should go from 1 to 2 (it seems far more likely for 2 people to have been roleblocked on the first night and only 1 on the 2nd night considering the collection of hits between the assassins). If there are indeed 2 roleblockers, why would they choose to not roleblock on the first day? It's possible they had a strong blue read on one of their night one targets, like Pandain, and both hit and roleblocked someone. | ||
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TranceStorm
1616 Posts
On April 18 2011 08:09 kitaman27 wrote: It's possible they had a strong blue read on one of their night one targets, like Pandain, and both hit and roleblocked someone. I had missed that option, but it does seems unlikely - especially on night 1. Considering that vigilantes could not shoot yet, the only reason why they would hit and roleblock the same person was if they suspected that their target was a medic (since the actions of dead detectives/trackers/watchers are useless if they are dead). But the reasoning for roleblocking a medic on night 1 seems incredibly faulty since the chance that the mafia would hit someone medic protected on night 1 was very slim. | ||
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AirbladeOrange
United States2571 Posts
On April 17 2011 02:02 TranceStorm wrote: I find your responses to being put under pressure very troubling though. In the very beginning, you seemed to be more active and willing to question the motives of other players. After Barundur started to put pressure on you, you put up the excuse that you were new and wanted to avoid being seen as scum repeatedly - until we've reached this moment where you are basically saying "lynch me, but you'll regret it!". To me, the fact that you have withdrawn as the game moved on is highly suspicious especially since each post seems to be a justification as to why you shouldn't have to make contentful posts in the future. I think conversion was relatively scummy throughout the game. No huge tells but he is not helping the town although it seems like is is trying to (or faking trying to). I'm pretty sure someone did a decent analysis earlier of him that was pretty convincing. On April 18 2011 07:54 TranceStorm wrote: I'm going to vote for jaminz for today's lynch. Mig's post on jaminz is especially incriminating for me on jaminz' remarkable change in posting behavior. Considering how helpful he seemed to be in the previous game that Mig spotted (Haunted Mafia), you would expect that jaminz would contribute a little more in the current circumstances. jaminz is a much stronger candidate than kevconsim for me. Reading from his previous games, his contribution always seems to be rather limited which makes him an extremely uncertain lynch target in my opinion. On the issue of the roleblocks, I think we should wait another day before we make any judgments on whether m0nster or Barundur are lying. It seems especially strange that the number of people roleblocked should go from 1 to 2 (it seems far more likely for 2 people to have been roleblocked on the first night and only 1 on the 2nd night considering the collection of hits between the assassins). If there are indeed 2 roleblockers, why would they choose to not roleblock on the first day? I stated earlier that all of jaminz's "scummy" posts really point much more to him being a novice at the game than anything else. The same goes for M0nsterchef. I had a strong scum read on him early in the game but once he blue claimed I reversed my thinking on him. I believe him to be an inexperienced player who felt like he had to claim his blue status in order to avoid being lynched. It's a perfectly rational thing to do even if it's not the smartest thing to do. I think the issue that makes me think conversion is the summiest looking player we have is the fact that he is advocating the lynch of M0nsterchef, who I think we should believe to be blue. He already voted for M0nsterChef as well. Mafia want blues dead and it would be better to kill blues with a lynch so they can focus on killing other players with their KP. I'm placing my vote on conversion. | ||
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TranceStorm
1616 Posts
On April 18 2011 08:20 AirbladeOrange wrote: I stated earlier that all of jaminz's "scummy" posts really point much more to him being a novice at the game than anything else. I would agree with that if we had no knowledge of jaminz' prior Mafia playstyle, but Mig's analysis is pretty telling. jaminz has previously posted in another mafia game (Haunted Mafia) with some helpful analysis at a pretty consistent rate - not at all what he is doing here. The novice excuse definitely does not work in this example, like it might to m0nster, since we have seen him actively posting beforehand. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On April 18 2011 07:32 chaoser wrote: STREAM LINK: http://www.livestream.com/deconduo HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE Everyone go watch this!!! On a more serious note, right now there are going to be about 10 modkills. If this happens, I'm not sure I'll want to continue the game. So please vote! | ||
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AirbladeOrange
United States2571 Posts
ANYWAY, all I can work with is my personal experience with jaminz in this game. I guess I can't really hold it against people are are voting for him because of his past games but I won't take other people's word as the basis for my own decisions. I really don't think he is mafia and I want to ask anyone voting for him or who haven't voted yet to reconsider tying the noose around jaminz's neck. | ||
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The_Roist
United States58 Posts
and to whoever it was that said DocH had reason to lie about the names of the BGs I agree that it is INCREDIBLY improbable however it is possible that both GMarshal and DocH were/are mafia and thus can hide a mafia in with the BGs, with two in office, one as a false bodyguard and annother as GF half the team would be essentially invisible, not that I really believe thats whats happening but that is the reason I wanted to know about the BG role PMs, obviously if I can catch a mafia with a single question, i'll ask it. | ||
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Rean
Netherlands808 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
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Barundar
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
Voting kev. | ||
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kevconsim
United States317 Posts
I cant vote for my self. I just dont want to die. | ||
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
On April 18 2011 08:20 AirbladeOrange wrote: I agree on one of TranceStorm's posts but disagree on another one. I think conversion was relatively scummy throughout the game. No huge tells but he is not helping the town although it seems like is is trying to (or faking trying to). I'm pretty sure someone did a decent analysis earlier of him that was pretty convincing. I stated earlier that all of jaminz's "scummy" posts really point much more to him being a novice at the game than anything else. The same goes for M0nsterchef. I had a strong scum read on him early in the game but once he blue claimed I reversed my thinking on him. I believe him to be an inexperienced player who felt like he had to claim his blue status in order to avoid being lynched. It's a perfectly rational thing to do even if it's not the smartest thing to do. I think the issue that makes me think conversion is the summiest looking player we have is the fact that he is advocating the lynch of M0nsterchef, who I think we should believe to be blue. He already voted for M0nsterChef as well. Mafia want blues dead and it would be better to kill blues with a lynch so they can focus on killing other players with their KP. I'm placing my vote on conversion. SO let me get this straight. 1) you don't want to lynch jaminz because his "scummy" posts point him to being a novice, but that doesn't apply to me? 2) since you "believe" (what the fuck?) m0nster is blue, you think I'm scummy? rofl. okay. so if I claim vet early on to avoid a lynch and behave like a lurking scum, you'd still trust me? great play. 3) you don't even try to defend him by taking apart my analysis. nice to know a few things about you. next time I play a game with you I'll claim a blue role so you ignore any analysis or post behavior and just believe me to be some newb blue role claimer. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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AirbladeOrange
United States2571 Posts
Key point I want everyone to read: jaminz is not red. | ||
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