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Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
April 17 2011 11:12 GMT
#3101
On April 17 2011 11:51 DropBear wrote:
As I remember, you were on the elect Marshal train. You were also never on the lynch Coag train.
You're making me nervous Barundar.

You should go re-read. Yes I voted GM for mayor, and yes I didn't believe protac straight away. I did vote coag at an important time however, where everyone else was starting to bandwagon to LSB.

On April 17 2011 11:51 DropBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 05:15 Barundar wrote:
On April 17 2011 02:41 M0nsterChef wrote:
On April 16 2011 14:24 Mig wrote:
Was anyone roleblocked last night? I believe barundar is the only one who said he was roleblocked n1.



I was roleblocked.

I highly doubt scum have 2 roleblockers. I suggest we lynch either me or m0nster to clear this up.

Why is this beneficial exactly?

It's beneficial to trade town for scum one for one. Basicly I'm saying m0nster must be lieing, because I was roleblocked night 1 with no other claim, leading me to believe there is only one roleblocker. Yes it's possible that scum forgot to send in a second roleblock on night 1, but m0nster doesn't have the cleanest record in this game. If he hadn't claimed tracker he would be one of the top suspects.


Looking at my schedule I won't have time before past midnight tonight to do anything about anything, so I can't finish my cases. Here is my shortlist of suspects:

jaminz - hardcore lurker, as myself and mig pointed out he was posting radically different in Haunted Mafia.
m0nsterchef - possible fake roleblock claim, hardcore lurker.
Kevconsim - mostly spam, see kita's analysis.
DarthThienAn - very experienced player, lurks a lot, albeit also as town. Was part of the LSB counter bandwagon.
DropBear - Not finished with the read through.
Robellicose - voted for GM with a post only arguing against DrH. Jumped on DrH's suspicion against mig without reason, and asked for lynch on pandain without believing him to be scum. Not done with reading through.
Kenpachi - it's kenpachi duh.
Bartundar
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
April 17 2011 13:13 GMT
#3102
##Vote: M0nsterChef

Reasoning is on page 154.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
April 17 2011 13:18 GMT
#3103
Also, is DocH busy? He hasn't been contributing much aside from one liners recently.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 17 2011 16:20 GMT
#3104
So we've shot off a lot of people and many have died. Discussion has hit an all time low. I didn't post for a whole day to gauge how town would react to reduced activity. But before I get to that, lets think about what's happened so far. There was so much town distraction and neither bum nor I have been targetted. They chose GM as the one to run for office and Coag to be Godfather. This means that most of the players on the mafia team are either new or not very active.This is like a textbook game where mafia sit back and watch. They're afraid to hit me and bum until all the watchers are gone because they fear being seem.

Relatively Active
chaoser -> Town
DoctorHelvetica -> Town
bumatlarge -> Town
cubedin -> Town
Rean
Kenpachi
kitaman27
redFF->Zorkmid
urashimakt
Barundar


Relatively Inactive
The_Roist -> Very Inactive -> Bodyguard
MetalFace -> Very Inactive -> Bodyguard
TranceStorm -> Very Inactive
DarthThienAn -> very Inactive
Robellicose -> Very Inactive
Conversion -> very Inactive
M0nsterChef -> Very Inactive -> Claimed Tracker
jaminz -> Very Inactive
kevconsim
DropBear
AirbladeOrange
Mig
ilovejonn

Split into actives v inactives, I am sure that at least 2 of the mafia are in the inactive camp, possibly 3. I will cross reference this list with my own lists for the major events and post some of my looks in a bit but this should provide all of you with a good jumping off point on looking at people. I'm certain most of the actives are town with maybe 1 being mafia. My vote says on jaminz though I don't mind lynching monsterchef either.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 17 2011 16:29 GMT
#3105
We have like Five days till LYLO assuming we don't lynch a single mafia during that time btw so yeah...lol.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 17 2011 16:34 GMT
#3106
I have the feeling that jaminz is more of an overwhelmed new player who lost interest. He has made no effort to post or push the mafia's agenda so far. Sounds like a textbook mislynch to me.

There are several players who are posting in other games, but not this one which concerns me. I'm not sure how you can put Zorkmid on your recently active list. He has one post this game and has had more than enough time since being replaced. The fact that he was excited about joining the game and then fails to contribute is a bit suspicious.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 17 2011 16:42 GMT
#3107
On April 18 2011 01:34 kitaman27 wrote:
I have the feeling that jaminz is more of an overwhelmed new player who lost interest. He has made no effort to post or push the mafia's agenda so far. Sounds like a textbook mislynch to me.

There are several players who are posting in other games, but not this one which concerns me. I'm not sure how you can put Zorkmid on your recently active list. He has one post this game and has had more than enough time since being replaced. The fact that he was excited about joining the game and then fails to contribute is a bit suspicious.


and what was milkyst? A new player that lost interest? fact of the matter is that we have 5 days to do lynch the mafia. I say lynching off a few inactives will help us a great deal.

On the zorkmid issue, I dunno, maybe he wants to work through the whole of the thread? He did just newly replace redFF into a 156 page thread. redFF was active throughout the game and so by that fact Zorkmid is too. I am excited to see what zorkmid says though, he's been very active in the other game.

what are your thoughts on the inactives? Top 4 mafia choices?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
April 17 2011 17:19 GMT
#3108
Serjei was another new player who didn't try and push any mafia agendas and was red.

I think that it is likely that at least 2-3 of the lurkers are mafia.

My top mafia lurker ranking

1. jaminez - just because the play style is such a change from his previous game where he was a townie

2. m0nsterchef - for the role blocking claim along with him not responding when people asked who he tracked last night.

3 kevconsim- basically just for kitas analysis

4 after that I think its pretty murky but I guess I would put Robellicose 4th

As for people who I think are likely not mafia.

Airbladeorange seems likely town just because GM was targeting him so hard. And considering how inactive milky and serjei were if GM was going to try and target a mafia I think he would have picked them.

Trancestorm- My reasoning for him being likely town is when I read back through his posts I saw him trying to make an argument for lynching serjei. It was around when people were debating coags lynch so it could have been a way to try and divert attention but I think if that were the mafias plan then GM would have been arguing for serjei as well.

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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 17 2011 17:19 GMT
#3109
On April 18 2011 01:42 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 01:34 kitaman27 wrote:
I have the feeling that jaminz is more of an overwhelmed new player who lost interest. He has made no effort to post or push the mafia's agenda so far. Sounds like a textbook mislynch to me.

There are several players who are posting in other games, but not this one which concerns me. I'm not sure how you can put Zorkmid on your recently active list. He has one post this game and has had more than enough time since being replaced. The fact that he was excited about joining the game and then fails to contribute is a bit suspicious.


and what was milkyst? A new player that lost interest? fact of the matter is that we have 5 days to do lynch the mafia. I say lynching off a few inactives will help us a great deal.


If it counts for anything, milkyst was on my scum list. I obviously would like to hear from jaminz, its just I think the lynch could be better used elsewhere. Just because we have 5 lynches, doesn't mean we can afford to waste any of them.

On April 18 2011 01:42 chaoser wrote:
what are your thoughts on the inactives? Top 4 mafia choices?


kevconism, for reasons I've already stated, and DarthThienAn, for making no attempt whatsoever to help town. How about you? You group individuals based on activity, but I'm not sure how useful it is without analysis. Which 2, besides jaminz, would be your top targets?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 17 2011 17:38 GMT
#3110
On April 18 2011 02:19 kitaman27 wrote:
If it counts for anything, milkyst was on my scum list. I obviously would like to hear from jaminz, its just I think the lynch could be better used elsewhere. Just because we have 5 lynches, doesn't mean we can afford to waste any of them.


why was milkyst on your scum list? he posted 1 line and then voted redff for mayor by accident. Jaminz voted to put Dr. H into office and then voted to lynch Dr. H on Day 2 saying it was a placeholder vote. They're both dead weight.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 17 2011 17:45 GMT
#3111
On April 18 2011 02:38 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 02:19 kitaman27 wrote:
If it counts for anything, milkyst was on my scum list. I obviously would like to hear from jaminz, its just I think the lynch could be better used elsewhere. Just because we have 5 lynches, doesn't mean we can afford to waste any of them.


why was milkyst on your scum list? he posted 1 line and then voted redff for mayor by accident. Jaminz voted to put Dr. H into office and then voted to lynch Dr. H on Day 2 saying it was a placeholder vote. They're both dead weight.


Because no one was pushing for milkyst. Scum would usually jump on an opportunity to call out a lurker with one post. I guess I would just rather go after someone who has a case against them.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 17 2011 18:01 GMT
#3112
On April 13 2011 22:34 DarthThienAn wrote:
a townie has no reason to lie about this.

Therefore, it's win-win. If Coag is town and Pro is mafia, I'll take the 1-1. If they're both mafia, then even better lol.


This post makes me think DTA is not mafia. It's not even like a half-hearted post that prot is maybe not to be trusted. This post was posted in the middle of a huge smear campaign by the mafia btw with serajai, GM, and Coag straight up trying to discredit Prot.


On April 13 2011 23:45 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 23:31 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 13 2011 22:34 DarthThienAn wrote:
a townie has no reason to lie about this.

Therefore, it's win-win. If Coag is town and Pro is mafia, I'll take the 1-1. If they're both mafia, then even better lol.

Why lynch Proact? An assassin or scum will kill him tonight. Don't protect him let him die. If he doesn't ignore him. He's a liar. Anything he says is now pushing a liars agenda. We don't know what he is. All we know is anything he says has to justify his lies. Which one is the lie? How the fuck do I know? All I know is he has 0 credibility with me. He's not worth wasting a lynch on atm. Lynches are priceless to us. Why waste one on an Assassin/DT/Liar? Let the assassins deal with him.

How does that go against lynching Coag?
... o.O. If Proact dies tonight, then someone did our job for us, assuming he's mafia...


Jackal misunderstands his post and once again he is for the lynch of coag and letting prot die at night
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
kevconsim
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
April 17 2011 18:24 GMT
#3113
On April 17 2011 14:40 kitaman27 wrote:
Case against kevconsim

First off, while reading through his posts, the amount of 1 line spam was overwhelming. At least 90% are not worthy of posting.

Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 09:33 kevconsim wrote:
honestly i only post when i have something to say...


More like you only post when you don't have something to say.

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On April 10 2011 14:11 kevconsim wrote:
I think that Gmarshal should be mayor and protact should be pardoner if he is willing to help us.

I will put my vote up later when we determine how we want to vote.


Supports GMarshal as mayor. However, rather than voting, he decides to wait until he sees how the town decides to vote. This leaves room for mafia manipulation later on.

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On April 11 2011 07:49 kevconsim wrote:
I think i have decided that the safe bet is too put gmarshal in their.

##Vote Gmarshal for mayor


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On April 11 2011 09:20 kevconsim wrote:
The reason i voted for Gmarshal as follows:

1. I have played with Gmarshal and both of us being town. He is playing the same exact way.


More support for GMarshal

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On April 11 2011 09:27 kevconsim wrote:
On April 11 2011 09:22 redFF wrote:
On April 11 2011 09:05 Coagulation wrote:
Redff you been fucking calling everyone scum left and right.
we get it. your the only town in game we get it.

Its pretty clear when the candidates are
#1 Assassin UMM IM NOT GONNA EXPLAIN WHY VOTING HIM IS BAD. NOPE.
#2 Pandain LETS SEE FAKE DT CLAIM DAY1 AND WANTS ASSASSIN IN MAYOR SEAT. NOPE
#3 Doch TO BUSY SHITTING ON ENTIRE TOWN TO FORMULATE A PLAN. NOPE.
#4 Chaoser WANTS ASSASSIN AS PARDONER REALLY REALLY FUCKING BAD. NOPE.
#5 KAVDRAGON. The only other REASONABLE Candidate aside from GM but Doch is putting me off of him.
#6 Only player that has a town read from majority of players And isnt acting retarted. OK!

Sit the fuck down redFF


I just wanted reasoning from the people voting for gm for no real reason. Pandain is lolworthy so far. I'd probably like to see a Kita/DrH/Kav/Chaoser mayor and protact or any of them pardoner. Currently the only people i have reason to suspect as scum are in that post listing gm's voters.


Why do you suspect them. Maybe Mafia isnt running for mayor. Maybe they are losing the vote. Just because there are a lot of players voting for someone to be mayor that doesnt mean that they are necessarily scum


Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 10:08 kevconsim wrote:
I trust Gmarshal more than you...


Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 10:15 kevconsim wrote:
i dont think there is a scum bandwagon for GM. I think people trust him more. I think other people who havent played before are seeing others endorse him and jumping on.


Defends GMarshal's campaign even further.

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On April 12 2011 08:04 kevconsim wrote:
I am trusting Doc. H alot more now. after what i have seen him posting. But i tend to trust Gmarshal more because this is exactly how he played in 37 albeit a little more aggresive this game but not much. I think that we should have G as Mayor and Doc H as pardoner. Or Doc H as Mayor and G as Pardoner. I would be fine with either of those. Just noticed that they were tied so i think im going to put Doc H as mayor.
##unvote Gmarshal
##Vote Doctor Helevetica


BAM. A complete swap in position. After continuously posting about how much he trusts GMarshal, he switches to DrH when he realizes GMarshal is getting elected either way. Seems like he is trying to separate himself.

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On April 12 2011 08:15 kevconsim wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:09 Serejai wrote:
Also I don't understand how to use my role's abilities... am I allowed to PM a mod for help with this?

bye

Why would you kill him. What if he is a medic or a dt?


A very concerned response when he thinks DrH wants to lynch Serejai

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On April 12 2011 08:23 kevconsim wrote:
hes never played before... He said that... Why would you lynch someone who has a role. We will know if he is mafia after tonight.


More of the same.

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On April 12 2011 14:27 kevconsim wrote:
Lets say there is 8 mafia men. and 3 assassins (idk how many but i that was the number people were saying. that is 11 non town people. there are 28 others for DOC H to Lynch.

That means that he has a 11/39(28.2051282%) chance of getting an assassin or scum.
Knowing that Protact is an alleged assassin means that he wont hit him so it becomes 10/38(25.6410256%)
Basically he had a 1/4 chance of hitting a scum. He missed big deal that doesnt mean much. Some of Kav's posting looked bad to him he had a gut feeling and went for it and missed.

This just means hes gonna work harder.
My 2 pennies
Sincerely,
Kevconsim


Immediately sucks up to DrH after the mislynch. This is right after DrH said that he would be suspicious of anyone that called him out for the kav lynch.

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On April 12 2011 14:34 kevconsim wrote:
i have an idea
Watch protact so that if someone kills him you can out that they are assasins so there are less random kp's in the game.


Directing the blues to watch non-scum. Interested in killing off the assassins, which is in line with mafia's goals.

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On April 13 2011 12:57 kevconsim wrote:
On April 13 2011 12:50 GGQ wrote:
That came off harsher than I intended. But seriously, it's dumb to ask why people don't think you're scum. You should never be expecting people to think you're scum...


Well earlier he said that he thought i was scum and i have said nothing since then and now he doesnt think im scum...

Thats dumb


I have no idea what to make of this. He seems far too eager to defend himself.

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On April 13 2011 16:10 kevconsim wrote:
##VOTE COAGalation(coagulation)

I can agree with what he says.

Wish i would have voted for you now...


Oh, maybe I was wrong about you?

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On April 15 2011 10:12 kevconsim wrote:
I am a little bit confused right now. SO MUCH ARGUING + I am sick.

Everyone seems scummy.

##Unvote
##Vote Protactnium


LOL JK. Can't vote for your godfather.

Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 11:55 kevconsim wrote:
EVeryone is so mad, besides me, yea, go me!


Has absolutely no reaction to the fact that GMarshal wants to pardon coag. A normal townie would be going crazy by now.

Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 13:55 kevconsim wrote:
wait so he was scum?


* Gasp

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On April 16 2011 09:40 kevconsim wrote:
I am gonna be honest i didnt think gmarshal was scum. Well i guess that makes me look scummy oh well.


Signs of guilt by association.


Conclusion: Scum

kevconism has been one of the most vocal supporters of GMarshal, displayed scummy behavior and has made absolutely no attempt to scum hunt.




I agree i look very scummy. That was because i had strong town reads of Gmarshal so i was confused. I didnt think serjai was trolling at the beginning i though he had never played before.
Just to let you know that if you read really slow that you are in fact reading this beautifully written quote you will have totally wasted like 10 seconds of your life.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 17 2011 18:28 GMT
#3114
On April 18 2011 03:24 kevconsim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 14:40 kitaman27 wrote:
Case against kevconsim

First off, while reading through his posts, the amount of 1 line spam was overwhelming. At least 90% are not worthy of posting.

On April 10 2011 09:33 kevconsim wrote:
honestly i only post when i have something to say...


More like you only post when you don't have something to say.

On April 10 2011 14:11 kevconsim wrote:
I think that Gmarshal should be mayor and protact should be pardoner if he is willing to help us.

I will put my vote up later when we determine how we want to vote.


Supports GMarshal as mayor. However, rather than voting, he decides to wait until he sees how the town decides to vote. This leaves room for mafia manipulation later on.

On April 11 2011 07:49 kevconsim wrote:
I think i have decided that the safe bet is too put gmarshal in their.

##Vote Gmarshal for mayor


On April 11 2011 09:20 kevconsim wrote:
The reason i voted for Gmarshal as follows:

1. I have played with Gmarshal and both of us being town. He is playing the same exact way.


More support for GMarshal

On April 11 2011 09:27 kevconsim wrote:
On April 11 2011 09:22 redFF wrote:
On April 11 2011 09:05 Coagulation wrote:
Redff you been fucking calling everyone scum left and right.
we get it. your the only town in game we get it.

Its pretty clear when the candidates are
#1 Assassin UMM IM NOT GONNA EXPLAIN WHY VOTING HIM IS BAD. NOPE.
#2 Pandain LETS SEE FAKE DT CLAIM DAY1 AND WANTS ASSASSIN IN MAYOR SEAT. NOPE
#3 Doch TO BUSY SHITTING ON ENTIRE TOWN TO FORMULATE A PLAN. NOPE.
#4 Chaoser WANTS ASSASSIN AS PARDONER REALLY REALLY FUCKING BAD. NOPE.
#5 KAVDRAGON. The only other REASONABLE Candidate aside from GM but Doch is putting me off of him.
#6 Only player that has a town read from majority of players And isnt acting retarted. OK!

Sit the fuck down redFF


I just wanted reasoning from the people voting for gm for no real reason. Pandain is lolworthy so far. I'd probably like to see a Kita/DrH/Kav/Chaoser mayor and protact or any of them pardoner. Currently the only people i have reason to suspect as scum are in that post listing gm's voters.


Why do you suspect them. Maybe Mafia isnt running for mayor. Maybe they are losing the vote. Just because there are a lot of players voting for someone to be mayor that doesnt mean that they are necessarily scum


On April 11 2011 10:08 kevconsim wrote:
I trust Gmarshal more than you...


On April 11 2011 10:15 kevconsim wrote:
i dont think there is a scum bandwagon for GM. I think people trust him more. I think other people who havent played before are seeing others endorse him and jumping on.


Defends GMarshal's campaign even further.

On April 12 2011 08:04 kevconsim wrote:
I am trusting Doc. H alot more now. after what i have seen him posting. But i tend to trust Gmarshal more because this is exactly how he played in 37 albeit a little more aggresive this game but not much. I think that we should have G as Mayor and Doc H as pardoner. Or Doc H as Mayor and G as Pardoner. I would be fine with either of those. Just noticed that they were tied so i think im going to put Doc H as mayor.
##unvote Gmarshal
##Vote Doctor Helevetica


BAM. A complete swap in position. After continuously posting about how much he trusts GMarshal, he switches to DrH when he realizes GMarshal is getting elected either way. Seems like he is trying to separate himself.

On April 12 2011 08:15 kevconsim wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:09 Serejai wrote:
Also I don't understand how to use my role's abilities... am I allowed to PM a mod for help with this?

bye

Why would you kill him. What if he is a medic or a dt?


A very concerned response when he thinks DrH wants to lynch Serejai

On April 12 2011 08:23 kevconsim wrote:
hes never played before... He said that... Why would you lynch someone who has a role. We will know if he is mafia after tonight.


More of the same.

On April 12 2011 14:27 kevconsim wrote:
Lets say there is 8 mafia men. and 3 assassins (idk how many but i that was the number people were saying. that is 11 non town people. there are 28 others for DOC H to Lynch.

That means that he has a 11/39(28.2051282%) chance of getting an assassin or scum.
Knowing that Protact is an alleged assassin means that he wont hit him so it becomes 10/38(25.6410256%)
Basically he had a 1/4 chance of hitting a scum. He missed big deal that doesnt mean much. Some of Kav's posting looked bad to him he had a gut feeling and went for it and missed.

This just means hes gonna work harder.
My 2 pennies
Sincerely,
Kevconsim


Immediately sucks up to DrH after the mislynch. This is right after DrH said that he would be suspicious of anyone that called him out for the kav lynch.

On April 12 2011 14:34 kevconsim wrote:
i have an idea
Watch protact so that if someone kills him you can out that they are assasins so there are less random kp's in the game.


Directing the blues to watch non-scum. Interested in killing off the assassins, which is in line with mafia's goals.

On April 13 2011 12:57 kevconsim wrote:
On April 13 2011 12:50 GGQ wrote:
That came off harsher than I intended. But seriously, it's dumb to ask why people don't think you're scum. You should never be expecting people to think you're scum...


Well earlier he said that he thought i was scum and i have said nothing since then and now he doesnt think im scum...

Thats dumb


I have no idea what to make of this. He seems far too eager to defend himself.

On April 13 2011 16:10 kevconsim wrote:
##VOTE COAGalation(coagulation)

I can agree with what he says.

Wish i would have voted for you now...


Oh, maybe I was wrong about you?

On April 15 2011 10:12 kevconsim wrote:
I am a little bit confused right now. SO MUCH ARGUING + I am sick.

Everyone seems scummy.

##Unvote
##Vote Protactnium


LOL JK. Can't vote for your godfather.

On April 15 2011 11:55 kevconsim wrote:
EVeryone is so mad, besides me, yea, go me!


Has absolutely no reaction to the fact that GMarshal wants to pardon coag. A normal townie would be going crazy by now.

On April 15 2011 13:55 kevconsim wrote:
wait so he was scum?


* Gasp

On April 16 2011 09:40 kevconsim wrote:
I am gonna be honest i didnt think gmarshal was scum. Well i guess that makes me look scummy oh well.


Signs of guilt by association.


Conclusion: Scum

kevconism has been one of the most vocal supporters of GMarshal, displayed scummy behavior and has made absolutely no attempt to scum hunt.




I agree i look very scummy. That was because i had strong town reads of Gmarshal so i was confused. I didnt think serjai was trolling at the beginning i though he had never played before.


How about you address the fact that you haven't attempted to scum hunt the entire game?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 17 2011 18:29 GMT
#3115
Here's why I don't think kev is mafia:

On April 15 2011 10:46 kevconsim wrote:
it depends whether there communicating about the game.


In reference to the Prot incident. If he was mafia he wouldn't be this ok with it

On April 13 2011 12:48 kevconsim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 12:41 redFF wrote:
Going to sleep, might as well post some final thoughts in case i die.
My personal Scum list-
GM
OriginalName
m0nsterChef

My possible scum list-
Mig- very suspicious early on. and ON gave him a townie read with an awful PBPA.
AO- Started out as a huge scum read. But he's requesting the lynch of ON and m0nsterChef so it's hard to tell.

I think coag is an assassin for what it's worth at this point.
Please don't waste any time talking about serejai, focus on catching and lynching scum.

Bum and DrH are town, listen to them.


Why arent i on there?


On April 13 2011 12:57 kevconsim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 12:50 GGQ wrote:
That came off harsher than I intended. But seriously, it's dumb to ask why people don't think you're scum. You should never be expecting people to think you're scum...


Well earlier he said that he thought i was scum and i have said nothing since then and now he doesnt think im scum...

Thats dumb


On April 14 2011 01:37 kevconsim wrote:
Since you never answered my question. Why am i not on here. I did not post one time in between lists. What changed in you mind about me? REDFF


He continually tries to place pressure on HIMSELF, bring up the point of why he isn't suspected again and again. That doesn't seem like a very mafia thing to do. Either way, they don't look more scummy when compared to jaminz and I'd rather mr 4 posts be gone.

can you link me to your analysis of kev though? maybe i'll change my mind when I read it
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 17 2011 18:33 GMT
#3116
On April 18 2011 03:29 chaoser wrote:
can you link me to your analysis of kev though? maybe i'll change my mind when I read it


Previous page.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kevconsim
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
April 17 2011 18:44 GMT
#3117
On April 18 2011 03:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 03:24 kevconsim wrote:
On April 17 2011 14:40 kitaman27 wrote:
Case against kevconsim

First off, while reading through his posts, the amount of 1 line spam was overwhelming. At least 90% are not worthy of posting.

On April 10 2011 09:33 kevconsim wrote:
honestly i only post when i have something to say...


More like you only post when you don't have something to say.

On April 10 2011 14:11 kevconsim wrote:
I think that Gmarshal should be mayor and protact should be pardoner if he is willing to help us.

I will put my vote up later when we determine how we want to vote.


Supports GMarshal as mayor. However, rather than voting, he decides to wait until he sees how the town decides to vote. This leaves room for mafia manipulation later on.

On April 11 2011 07:49 kevconsim wrote:
I think i have decided that the safe bet is too put gmarshal in their.

##Vote Gmarshal for mayor


On April 11 2011 09:20 kevconsim wrote:
The reason i voted for Gmarshal as follows:

1. I have played with Gmarshal and both of us being town. He is playing the same exact way.


More support for GMarshal

On April 11 2011 09:27 kevconsim wrote:
On April 11 2011 09:22 redFF wrote:
On April 11 2011 09:05 Coagulation wrote:
Redff you been fucking calling everyone scum left and right.
we get it. your the only town in game we get it.

Its pretty clear when the candidates are
#1 Assassin UMM IM NOT GONNA EXPLAIN WHY VOTING HIM IS BAD. NOPE.
#2 Pandain LETS SEE FAKE DT CLAIM DAY1 AND WANTS ASSASSIN IN MAYOR SEAT. NOPE
#3 Doch TO BUSY SHITTING ON ENTIRE TOWN TO FORMULATE A PLAN. NOPE.
#4 Chaoser WANTS ASSASSIN AS PARDONER REALLY REALLY FUCKING BAD. NOPE.
#5 KAVDRAGON. The only other REASONABLE Candidate aside from GM but Doch is putting me off of him.
#6 Only player that has a town read from majority of players And isnt acting retarted. OK!

Sit the fuck down redFF


I just wanted reasoning from the people voting for gm for no real reason. Pandain is lolworthy so far. I'd probably like to see a Kita/DrH/Kav/Chaoser mayor and protact or any of them pardoner. Currently the only people i have reason to suspect as scum are in that post listing gm's voters.


Why do you suspect them. Maybe Mafia isnt running for mayor. Maybe they are losing the vote. Just because there are a lot of players voting for someone to be mayor that doesnt mean that they are necessarily scum


On April 11 2011 10:08 kevconsim wrote:
I trust Gmarshal more than you...


On April 11 2011 10:15 kevconsim wrote:
i dont think there is a scum bandwagon for GM. I think people trust him more. I think other people who havent played before are seeing others endorse him and jumping on.


Defends GMarshal's campaign even further.

On April 12 2011 08:04 kevconsim wrote:
I am trusting Doc. H alot more now. after what i have seen him posting. But i tend to trust Gmarshal more because this is exactly how he played in 37 albeit a little more aggresive this game but not much. I think that we should have G as Mayor and Doc H as pardoner. Or Doc H as Mayor and G as Pardoner. I would be fine with either of those. Just noticed that they were tied so i think im going to put Doc H as mayor.
##unvote Gmarshal
##Vote Doctor Helevetica


BAM. A complete swap in position. After continuously posting about how much he trusts GMarshal, he switches to DrH when he realizes GMarshal is getting elected either way. Seems like he is trying to separate himself.

On April 12 2011 08:15 kevconsim wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:09 Serejai wrote:
Also I don't understand how to use my role's abilities... am I allowed to PM a mod for help with this?

bye

Why would you kill him. What if he is a medic or a dt?


A very concerned response when he thinks DrH wants to lynch Serejai

On April 12 2011 08:23 kevconsim wrote:
hes never played before... He said that... Why would you lynch someone who has a role. We will know if he is mafia after tonight.


More of the same.

On April 12 2011 14:27 kevconsim wrote:
Lets say there is 8 mafia men. and 3 assassins (idk how many but i that was the number people were saying. that is 11 non town people. there are 28 others for DOC H to Lynch.

That means that he has a 11/39(28.2051282%) chance of getting an assassin or scum.
Knowing that Protact is an alleged assassin means that he wont hit him so it becomes 10/38(25.6410256%)
Basically he had a 1/4 chance of hitting a scum. He missed big deal that doesnt mean much. Some of Kav's posting looked bad to him he had a gut feeling and went for it and missed.

This just means hes gonna work harder.
My 2 pennies
Sincerely,
Kevconsim


Immediately sucks up to DrH after the mislynch. This is right after DrH said that he would be suspicious of anyone that called him out for the kav lynch.

On April 12 2011 14:34 kevconsim wrote:
i have an idea
Watch protact so that if someone kills him you can out that they are assasins so there are less random kp's in the game.


Directing the blues to watch non-scum. Interested in killing off the assassins, which is in line with mafia's goals.

On April 13 2011 12:57 kevconsim wrote:
On April 13 2011 12:50 GGQ wrote:
That came off harsher than I intended. But seriously, it's dumb to ask why people don't think you're scum. You should never be expecting people to think you're scum...


Well earlier he said that he thought i was scum and i have said nothing since then and now he doesnt think im scum...

Thats dumb


I have no idea what to make of this. He seems far too eager to defend himself.

On April 13 2011 16:10 kevconsim wrote:
##VOTE COAGalation(coagulation)

I can agree with what he says.

Wish i would have voted for you now...


Oh, maybe I was wrong about you?

On April 15 2011 10:12 kevconsim wrote:
I am a little bit confused right now. SO MUCH ARGUING + I am sick.

Everyone seems scummy.

##Unvote
##Vote Protactnium


LOL JK. Can't vote for your godfather.

On April 15 2011 11:55 kevconsim wrote:
EVeryone is so mad, besides me, yea, go me!


Has absolutely no reaction to the fact that GMarshal wants to pardon coag. A normal townie would be going crazy by now.

On April 15 2011 13:55 kevconsim wrote:
wait so he was scum?


* Gasp

On April 16 2011 09:40 kevconsim wrote:
I am gonna be honest i didnt think gmarshal was scum. Well i guess that makes me look scummy oh well.


Signs of guilt by association.


Conclusion: Scum

kevconism has been one of the most vocal supporters of GMarshal, displayed scummy behavior and has made absolutely no attempt to scum hunt.




I agree i look very scummy. That was because i had strong town reads of Gmarshal so i was confused. I didnt think serjai was trolling at the beginning i though he had never played before.


How about you address the fact that you haven't attempted to scum hunt the entire game?


I did try to pressure redff but i am not that good at scum hunting. It was around page 60 or so i think.
Just to let you know that if you read really slow that you are in fact reading this beautifully written quote you will have totally wasted like 10 seconds of your life.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 17 2011 18:58 GMT
#3118
On April 18 2011 03:44 kevconsim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 03:28 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 18 2011 03:24 kevconsim wrote:
On April 17 2011 14:40 kitaman27 wrote:
Case against kevconsim

First off, while reading through his posts, the amount of 1 line spam was overwhelming. At least 90% are not worthy of posting.

On April 10 2011 09:33 kevconsim wrote:
honestly i only post when i have something to say...


More like you only post when you don't have something to say.

On April 10 2011 14:11 kevconsim wrote:
I think that Gmarshal should be mayor and protact should be pardoner if he is willing to help us.

I will put my vote up later when we determine how we want to vote.


Supports GMarshal as mayor. However, rather than voting, he decides to wait until he sees how the town decides to vote. This leaves room for mafia manipulation later on.

On April 11 2011 07:49 kevconsim wrote:
I think i have decided that the safe bet is too put gmarshal in their.

##Vote Gmarshal for mayor


On April 11 2011 09:20 kevconsim wrote:
The reason i voted for Gmarshal as follows:

1. I have played with Gmarshal and both of us being town. He is playing the same exact way.


More support for GMarshal

On April 11 2011 09:27 kevconsim wrote:
On April 11 2011 09:22 redFF wrote:
On April 11 2011 09:05 Coagulation wrote:
Redff you been fucking calling everyone scum left and right.
we get it. your the only town in game we get it.

Its pretty clear when the candidates are
#1 Assassin UMM IM NOT GONNA EXPLAIN WHY VOTING HIM IS BAD. NOPE.
#2 Pandain LETS SEE FAKE DT CLAIM DAY1 AND WANTS ASSASSIN IN MAYOR SEAT. NOPE
#3 Doch TO BUSY SHITTING ON ENTIRE TOWN TO FORMULATE A PLAN. NOPE.
#4 Chaoser WANTS ASSASSIN AS PARDONER REALLY REALLY FUCKING BAD. NOPE.
#5 KAVDRAGON. The only other REASONABLE Candidate aside from GM but Doch is putting me off of him.
#6 Only player that has a town read from majority of players And isnt acting retarted. OK!

Sit the fuck down redFF


I just wanted reasoning from the people voting for gm for no real reason. Pandain is lolworthy so far. I'd probably like to see a Kita/DrH/Kav/Chaoser mayor and protact or any of them pardoner. Currently the only people i have reason to suspect as scum are in that post listing gm's voters.


Why do you suspect them. Maybe Mafia isnt running for mayor. Maybe they are losing the vote. Just because there are a lot of players voting for someone to be mayor that doesnt mean that they are necessarily scum


On April 11 2011 10:08 kevconsim wrote:
I trust Gmarshal more than you...


On April 11 2011 10:15 kevconsim wrote:
i dont think there is a scum bandwagon for GM. I think people trust him more. I think other people who havent played before are seeing others endorse him and jumping on.


Defends GMarshal's campaign even further.

On April 12 2011 08:04 kevconsim wrote:
I am trusting Doc. H alot more now. after what i have seen him posting. But i tend to trust Gmarshal more because this is exactly how he played in 37 albeit a little more aggresive this game but not much. I think that we should have G as Mayor and Doc H as pardoner. Or Doc H as Mayor and G as Pardoner. I would be fine with either of those. Just noticed that they were tied so i think im going to put Doc H as mayor.
##unvote Gmarshal
##Vote Doctor Helevetica


BAM. A complete swap in position. After continuously posting about how much he trusts GMarshal, he switches to DrH when he realizes GMarshal is getting elected either way. Seems like he is trying to separate himself.

On April 12 2011 08:15 kevconsim wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:09 Serejai wrote:
Also I don't understand how to use my role's abilities... am I allowed to PM a mod for help with this?

bye

Why would you kill him. What if he is a medic or a dt?


A very concerned response when he thinks DrH wants to lynch Serejai

On April 12 2011 08:23 kevconsim wrote:
hes never played before... He said that... Why would you lynch someone who has a role. We will know if he is mafia after tonight.


More of the same.

On April 12 2011 14:27 kevconsim wrote:
Lets say there is 8 mafia men. and 3 assassins (idk how many but i that was the number people were saying. that is 11 non town people. there are 28 others for DOC H to Lynch.

That means that he has a 11/39(28.2051282%) chance of getting an assassin or scum.
Knowing that Protact is an alleged assassin means that he wont hit him so it becomes 10/38(25.6410256%)
Basically he had a 1/4 chance of hitting a scum. He missed big deal that doesnt mean much. Some of Kav's posting looked bad to him he had a gut feeling and went for it and missed.

This just means hes gonna work harder.
My 2 pennies
Sincerely,
Kevconsim


Immediately sucks up to DrH after the mislynch. This is right after DrH said that he would be suspicious of anyone that called him out for the kav lynch.

On April 12 2011 14:34 kevconsim wrote:
i have an idea
Watch protact so that if someone kills him you can out that they are assasins so there are less random kp's in the game.


Directing the blues to watch non-scum. Interested in killing off the assassins, which is in line with mafia's goals.

On April 13 2011 12:57 kevconsim wrote:
On April 13 2011 12:50 GGQ wrote:
That came off harsher than I intended. But seriously, it's dumb to ask why people don't think you're scum. You should never be expecting people to think you're scum...


Well earlier he said that he thought i was scum and i have said nothing since then and now he doesnt think im scum...

Thats dumb


I have no idea what to make of this. He seems far too eager to defend himself.

On April 13 2011 16:10 kevconsim wrote:
##VOTE COAGalation(coagulation)

I can agree with what he says.

Wish i would have voted for you now...


Oh, maybe I was wrong about you?

On April 15 2011 10:12 kevconsim wrote:
I am a little bit confused right now. SO MUCH ARGUING + I am sick.

Everyone seems scummy.

##Unvote
##Vote Protactnium


LOL JK. Can't vote for your godfather.

On April 15 2011 11:55 kevconsim wrote:
EVeryone is so mad, besides me, yea, go me!


Has absolutely no reaction to the fact that GMarshal wants to pardon coag. A normal townie would be going crazy by now.

On April 15 2011 13:55 kevconsim wrote:
wait so he was scum?


* Gasp

On April 16 2011 09:40 kevconsim wrote:
I am gonna be honest i didnt think gmarshal was scum. Well i guess that makes me look scummy oh well.


Signs of guilt by association.


Conclusion: Scum

kevconism has been one of the most vocal supporters of GMarshal, displayed scummy behavior and has made absolutely no attempt to scum hunt.




I agree i look very scummy. That was because i had strong town reads of Gmarshal so i was confused. I didnt think serjai was trolling at the beginning i though he had never played before.


How about you address the fact that you haven't attempted to scum hunt the entire game?


I did try to pressure redff but i am not that good at scum hunting. It was around page 60 or so i think.


This? How can you pressure someone that you think is town and want to vote for as mayor?

On April 11 2011 09:36 kevconsim wrote:
just letting u know red i believe you to be town just as much as gmarshal but i cant vote for you because your not running.


Even if you don't think you are good at scum hunting, doesn't mean you shouldn't try.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 17 2011 19:43 GMT
#3119
On April 17 2011 22:18 Conversion wrote:
Also, is DocH busy? He hasn't been contributing much aside from one liners recently.

very
RIP Aaliyah
ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 17 2011 20:16 GMT
#3120
I wonder if there's gonna be more modkills coming this way. Seems likely.
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