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Kenpachi
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Conversion
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On April 17 2011 11:35 Kenpachi wrote: yea.. no Monsterchef is pretty much town regardless his scummy play is he town for making a tracker claim? can you explain why instead of playing your usual "im gonna post stupid 1 liners without doing anything so some other player can explain my reasoning?" really not helping me out here. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4378 Posts
On April 17 2011 05:15 Barundar wrote: I highly doubt scum have 2 roleblockers. I suggest we lynch either me or m0nster to clear this up. Why is this beneficial exactly? As I remember, you were on the elect Marshal train. You were also never on the lynch Coag train. You're making me nervous Barundar. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On April 17 2011 11:42 Conversion wrote: is he town for making a tracker claim? can you explain why instead of playing your usual "im gonna post stupid 1 liners without doing anything so some other player can explain my reasoning?" really not helping me out here. Read his posts again. you can clearly tell hes being a complete noob. Claiming Tracker and thinking Assassin doesnt benefit mafia. ???? | ||
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Kenpachi
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DropBear
Australia4378 Posts
On April 17 2011 05:51 Kenpachi wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 16 2011 12:46 DropBear wrote: Alright Kenpachi. You have dismissed me. Repeatedly. The only real refutation you have is this: You say GM is the best choice, yet despite being active around the deadline post that you think your vote is on the wrong guy and don't change it. You claim that I should be disregarded because I'm new and noone analyses you. It's understandable to me now. Why was it terrible exactly? I don't see any really good defences here. No stance? I gave a very strong stance. I said out and out that I suspected you. Now I have. Could you respond to me please? what are you trying to say I'm trying to say I find you highly suspicious and that you haven't defended yourself sufficiently for me to leave you alone yet. | ||
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Kenpachi
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DropBear
Australia4378 Posts
On April 17 2011 12:03 Kenpachi wrote: bleh. i dont see why you find me suspicious. I dont want to give you credit for a half assed analysis btw. I said what you were missing in your analysis and that was awareness of whats going on around the post i made. DocH was muy aggressive and GM was the neutral party. What, you want me to vote myself or Kitaman? we both had like 1 vote each. I thought my vote was on the wrong guy cause GM cause iirc, he didnt want to lynch annul but Airblade. What? When was annul in this game again? I'm going to leave you alone for the time being. Coag in his last violent moments outed three people as being teammates. Milkyst who was modkilled and turned out red. On April 15 2011 15:35 Coagulation wrote: Guys We should lynch Milkyst I Might be 100% Sure hes scum LSB who died last night and came up green On April 15 2011 17:06 Coagulation wrote: Also props to LSB for coming up with the Gmarsh Medic claim. That was brilliant. And lastly Kenpachi, who is still here. On April 15 2011 17:17 Coagulation wrote: You would have to ask them. Kenpachi seems to think he can still win but i tried telling him its hopeless. I am not convinced he would have been so stupid as to throw away 2 names of his allies, no matter how angry he was. Milkyst was probably on the list because Coag was pissed at him for being inactive. The other two could be misinformation. I haven't forgotten about you Kenpachi, you haven't been helping town at all this game except for calling out newbies like Latrommi and myself, but I'm diverting my attention elsewhere for now. Rean, a response please. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
and Coag was BSing there. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On April 17 2011 08:45 Jackal58 wrote: BB please update your Important posts list and would somebody please PM me the link to the dead zone. Goes back to being dead. I drunkfailed. Updating now. While still drunk. Whatever. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
First off, while reading through his posts, the amount of 1 line spam was overwhelming. At least 90% are not worthy of posting. On April 10 2011 09:33 kevconsim wrote: honestly i only post when i have something to say... More like you only post when you don't have something to say. On April 10 2011 14:11 kevconsim wrote: I think that Gmarshal should be mayor and protact should be pardoner if he is willing to help us. I will put my vote up later when we determine how we want to vote. Supports GMarshal as mayor. However, rather than voting, he decides to wait until he sees how the town decides to vote. This leaves room for mafia manipulation later on. On April 11 2011 07:49 kevconsim wrote: I think i have decided that the safe bet is too put gmarshal in their. ##Vote Gmarshal for mayor On April 11 2011 09:20 kevconsim wrote: The reason i voted for Gmarshal as follows: 1. I have played with Gmarshal and both of us being town. He is playing the same exact way. More support for GMarshal On April 11 2011 09:27 kevconsim wrote: Why do you suspect them. Maybe Mafia isnt running for mayor. Maybe they are losing the vote. Just because there are a lot of players voting for someone to be mayor that doesnt mean that they are necessarily scum On April 11 2011 10:08 kevconsim wrote: I trust Gmarshal more than you... On April 11 2011 10:15 kevconsim wrote: i dont think there is a scum bandwagon for GM. I think people trust him more. I think other people who havent played before are seeing others endorse him and jumping on. Defends GMarshal's campaign even further. On April 12 2011 08:04 kevconsim wrote: I am trusting Doc. H alot more now. after what i have seen him posting. But i tend to trust Gmarshal more because this is exactly how he played in 37 albeit a little more aggresive this game but not much. I think that we should have G as Mayor and Doc H as pardoner. Or Doc H as Mayor and G as Pardoner. I would be fine with either of those. Just noticed that they were tied so i think im going to put Doc H as mayor. ##unvote Gmarshal ##Vote Doctor Helevetica BAM. A complete swap in position. After continuously posting about how much he trusts GMarshal, he switches to DrH when he realizes GMarshal is getting elected either way. Seems like he is trying to separate himself. On April 12 2011 08:15 kevconsim wrote: Why would you kill him. What if he is a medic or a dt? A very concerned response when he thinks DrH wants to lynch Serejai On April 12 2011 08:23 kevconsim wrote: hes never played before... He said that... Why would you lynch someone who has a role. We will know if he is mafia after tonight. More of the same. On April 12 2011 14:27 kevconsim wrote: Lets say there is 8 mafia men. and 3 assassins (idk how many but i that was the number people were saying. that is 11 non town people. there are 28 others for DOC H to Lynch. That means that he has a 11/39(28.2051282%) chance of getting an assassin or scum. Knowing that Protact is an alleged assassin means that he wont hit him so it becomes 10/38(25.6410256%) Basically he had a 1/4 chance of hitting a scum. He missed big deal that doesnt mean much. Some of Kav's posting looked bad to him he had a gut feeling and went for it and missed. This just means hes gonna work harder. My 2 pennies Sincerely, Kevconsim Immediately sucks up to DrH after the mislynch. This is right after DrH said that he would be suspicious of anyone that called him out for the kav lynch. On April 12 2011 14:34 kevconsim wrote: i have an idea Watch protact so that if someone kills him you can out that they are assasins so there are less random kp's in the game. Directing the blues to watch non-scum. Interested in killing off the assassins, which is in line with mafia's goals. On April 13 2011 12:57 kevconsim wrote: Well earlier he said that he thought i was scum and i have said nothing since then and now he doesnt think im scum... Thats dumb I have no idea what to make of this. He seems far too eager to defend himself. On April 13 2011 16:10 kevconsim wrote: ##VOTE COAGalation(coagulation) I can agree with what he says. Wish i would have voted for you now... Oh, maybe I was wrong about you? On April 15 2011 10:12 kevconsim wrote: I am a little bit confused right now. SO MUCH ARGUING + I am sick. Everyone seems scummy. ##Unvote ##Vote Protactnium LOL JK. Can't vote for your godfather. On April 15 2011 11:55 kevconsim wrote: EVeryone is so mad,  besides me, yea, go me!Has absolutely no reaction to the fact that GMarshal wants to pardon coag. A normal townie would be going crazy by now. On April 15 2011 13:55 kevconsim wrote: wait so he was scum? * Gasp On April 16 2011 09:40 kevconsim wrote: I am gonna be honest i didnt think gmarshal was scum. Well i guess that makes me look scummy oh well. Signs of guilt by association. Conclusion: Scum kevconism has been one of the most vocal supporters of GMarshal, displayed scummy behavior and has made absolutely no attempt to scum hunt. | ||
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ilovejonn
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M0nsterChef
Canada67 Posts
On April 17 2011 11:53 Kenpachi wrote: with that being said, who did you track Monsterchef? The first night I tracked RedFF , he didn't go anywhere. Second night I was roleblocked. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On April 17 2011 14:55 M0nsterChef wrote: The first night I tracked RedFF , he didn't go anywhere. Second night I was roleblocked. Who did you attempt to target? | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On April 17 2011 14:55 M0nsterChef wrote: The first night I tracked RedFF , he didn't go anywhere. Second night I was roleblocked. suspicious suspicious | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
 I guess I really have to do more analysis tomorrow, man, I was hoping the game would be over after 2 scum modkills, and 2 others dying. Like seriously whatever. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
I'm very tempted to lynch m0nsterchef, his tracker claim came out of nowhere yesterday, and today he claims roleblocked and say nothing else. Remember how he was suspicious because he placed a vote on GM without writing in thread? His justification is poor, completely ignoring DrH's candidacy, votes GM because he considers lynching Kav, yet sais nothing of why Kav should be lynched. Good more stuff coming up when I'm done with it. | ||
Mig
United States4714 Posts
I also think there is a very strong case to lynch jaminz. He has only posted 4 times in the thread and he hasn't given his opinion on a single issue. If you look at the only other mafia game hes played previously (haunted mafia) you can see he played very differently. He was town that game and he posted 24 total times which isn't much but clearly much much more than this game, and more importantly is he gave an opinion in like 90% of his posts. Here are some of his posts from that game. + Show Spoiler + On October 15 2010 02:57 jaminz wrote: I did a quick runthrough again, and didn't see any other mistakes, though there definitely may be some. So sorry for the mistake zerroth. Here's the updated list: Post Count, as of page 79 Note: These numbers may be slightly off due to the search function not always displaying exactly how many posts a person has per thread (this is usually only off if a person has a very high number of posts in the thread). I checked a few times, and these were the numbers I found. Players with + Show Spoiler + 1. deconduo 9 2. ghrur 1 (new player, replaced d3_crescentia) 3. coagulation 106 4. jodogohoo 46 5. orgolove 101 6. pandain 37 7. southrawrea 8 8. Divinek 11 (new player, replaced CKSide) 9. KtheZ 19 10. oddo123 12 11. 12. quickstriker 14 13. Therick 0 (but has voted twice) 14. michaelthe 0 new player, replaced kitaman27) 15. zerroth 9 16. 17. TheMunkey 0 (but has voted once) 18. YummyBlaBla 19 19. BrownBear 3 (new player, replaced kuja900) 20. Lexpar 21 21. ~OpZ~ 4 22. SiNiquity 7 23. jaminz 16 (17 if you include this one) 24. Lucktar 5 25. AirbladeOrange 4 (didn't have forum access until late) 26. 27. kenpachi 1 28. 29. HeavOnEarth 1 30. kingjames01 8 31. Neos 0 (but has voted twice) 32. ZaplinG 0 (new player, replaced goldfishs) 33. Flicky 3 34. Artanis[Xp] 1 (new player, replaced Zeraghul) 35. chesshaha 0 (didn't have forum access until late) 36. KhrisKruel 12 (didn't have forum access until late) 37. spydR 18 38. Hyperbola 3 39. MetalFace 6 40. l0st_romantic 2 41. Aeres 14 42. ShmotZ 24 43. Hittegods 1 44. Veldril 25 45. grandmoose 2 46. LastArgument 6 47. jcarlsoniv 62 48. annul 37 49. Iankill 0 (didn't have forum access until late) 50. seRaPh 65 51. aztrorisk 98 52. Glasse 42 53. glurio 1 (new player, replaced Bill Murray) 54. 55. Kpyolysis32 43 56. Nemesis 15 57. Yogy 1 58. Node 5 (didn't have forum access until late) 59. 60. thegilaboy 32 61. CubEdIn 36 In order from most posts to least: + Show Spoiler + 3. coagulation 106 5. orgolove 101 51. aztrorisk 98 16. 50. seRaPh 65 47. jcarlsoniv 62 28. 4. jodogohoo 46 55. Kpyolysis32 43 52. Glasse 42 48. annul 37 6. pandain 37 61. CubEdIn 36 60. thegilaboy 32 54. 44. Veldril 25 42. ShmotZ 24 20. Lexpar 21 9. KtheZ 19 18. YummyBlaBla 19 23. jaminz 16 (17 if you include this one) 37. spydR 18 11. 56. Nemesis 15 41. Aeres 14 12. quickstriker 14 8. Divinek 11 (new player, replaced CKSide) 36. KhrisKruel 12 (didn't have forum access until late) 10. oddo123 12 1. deconduo 9 15. zerroth 9 30. kingjames01 8 7. southrawrea 8 22. SiNiquity 7 46. LastArgument 6 39. MetalFace 6 24. Lucktar 5 26. 58. Node 5 (didn't have forum access until late) 25. AirbladeOrange 4 (didn't have forum access until late) 21. ~OpZ~ 4 19. BrownBear 3 (new player, replaced kuja900) 33. Flicky 3 38. Hyperbola 3 45. grandmoose 2 40. l0st_romantic 2 59. 34. Artanis[Xp] 1 (new player, replaced Zeraghul) 2. ghrur 1 (new player, replaced d3_crescentia) 53. glurio 1 (new player, replaced Bill Murray) 29. HeavOnEarth 1 43. Hittegods 1 27. kenpachi 1 57. Yogy 1 35. chesshaha 0 (didn't have forum access until late) 49. Iankill 0 (didn't have forum access until late) 14. michaelthe 0 new player, replaced kitaman27) 31. Neos 0 (but has voted twice) 17. TheMunkey 0 (but has voted once) 13. Therick 0 (but has voted twice) 32. ZaplinG 0 (new player, replaced goldfishs) Top Posters: + Show Spoiler + 3. coagulation 106 5. orgolove 101 51. aztrorisk 98 16. 50. seRaPh 65 47. jcarlsoniv 62 28. Players with 0 posts but who have voted: + Show Spoiler + 31. Neos 0 (but has voted twice) 17. TheMunkey 0 (but has voted once) 13. Therick 0 (but has voted twice) + Show Spoiler + On October 14 2010 18:39 jaminz wrote: Now that I've done all that..... I think it's pretty suspicious that 3 players have no posts in this thread, but have each voted. One of which (Therick) has alread cast a vote (for Veldril) for Day 2. I'm not saying they are for sure scum, but we should keep an eye on them. Lying low is one thing, not posting at all and still voting is another. With respect to the whole Veldril thing, I think that we haven't done a good enough job analyzing the clues & people's reactions yet to make a definite decision. I think we should look back at the Day 1 clues, as the one that implicated Masq was very obvious. Maybe the other clues were just as obvious, and so we should look to who they point to (one of them pointing to Veldril, among others). I'm open to discussion about anything. I hope the post count helps, because damn did it take a long time. + Show Spoiler + On October 12 2010 08:27 jaminz wrote: After rereading everything, I would suggest that the ghost not choose to save aztorisk. I'm starting to believe that he may not be the jack-o-lantern, and instead might be scum trying to stir up confusion among the townies. However, even if he is the jack-o-lantern, then there is a chance the vampire brute will choose to kill him, thinking that the ghost may be protecting him. Because the ghost is so valuable, I would suggest taking the risk of only losing 1 (or maybe 0) blues, and ensure that the ghost isn't taken out. If he is the jack-o-lantern, then unless a witch chooses to curse him he will be able to place one bomb anyway. I just don't think its worth the risk of either protecting scum, or having the ghost die to the vampire brute. What do you guys think? + Show Spoiler + On October 12 2010 05:32 jaminz wrote: After finally sifting through the entire thread (we added 15 pages in 14 hours? lol) I think I've narrowed down my choices to these people: Veldril jodogohoo Bill Murray Masq Masq is probably the most obvious choice there, so I don't think I have to explain my reasoning as I think everyone who has read the thread will understand. jodogohoo is sort of a gut/impulse choice, as I feel like he's said just enough so that people won't see him as too much of a lurker, but not enough so that he will be heavily accused. As for Veldril and Bill Murray, I'm mostly lumping them together because of their posting tendencies. This is my first game of Mafia (though I've played in real life), but from reading the few strategy guides/previous threads, it seems like one of the most important roles of scum is to stir up confusion and/or create arguments. It seems Veldril and Bill Murray have done a pretty good job of doing this and honestly, even if they are townies I wouldn't mind seeing them go since it would lead to fewer posts haha. You can see his posting style as town in that game was completely different. He actually tried to contribute and help when he could and he had no problem giving opinions on people. So for now unless we get more information on the barundar/monster rb situation I am going to vote for jaminz. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
just sayin HE IS JUST AN INACTIVE The fact that he isnt coming back to do his analysis is saying hes busy or something Join the Anti-Lets lynch him cause hes inactive! initiative | ||
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Kenpachi
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) but just telling you, my analyses are inaccurate as i was wrong on iGrok and wrong on everyone before that.
