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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
April 17 2011 20:23 GMT
#3121
On April 18 2011 04:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 22:18 Conversion wrote:
Also, is DocH busy? He hasn't been contributing much aside from one liners recently.

very

me too yo =/.

We seem to be doing alright without me though ^^. I vote for DrH to placehold~
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 22:45:18
April 17 2011 22:32 GMT
#3122
[image loading]

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HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 17 2011 22:45 GMT
#3123
That's in like 15 minutes. o.o
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 17 2011 22:47 GMT
#3124
They're almost set up
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
April 17 2011 22:54 GMT
#3125
I'm going to vote for jaminz for today's lynch. Mig's post on jaminz is especially incriminating for me on jaminz' remarkable change in posting behavior. Considering how helpful he seemed to be in the previous game that Mig spotted (Haunted Mafia), you would expect that jaminz would contribute a little more in the current circumstances.

jaminz is a much stronger candidate than kevconsim for me. Reading from his previous games, his contribution always seems to be rather limited which makes him an extremely uncertain lynch target in my opinion.

On the issue of the roleblocks, I think we should wait another day before we make any judgments on whether m0nster or Barundur are lying. It seems especially strange that the number of people roleblocked should go from 1 to 2 (it seems far more likely for 2 people to have been roleblocked on the first night and only 1 on the 2nd night considering the collection of hits between the assassins). If there are indeed 2 roleblockers, why would they choose to not roleblock on the first day?
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 17 2011 23:09 GMT
#3126
On April 18 2011 07:54 TranceStorm wrote:
I'm going to vote for jaminz for today's lynch. Mig's post on jaminz is especially incriminating for me on jaminz' remarkable change in posting behavior. Considering how helpful he seemed to be in the previous game that Mig spotted (Haunted Mafia), you would expect that jaminz would contribute a little more in the current circumstances.

jaminz is a much stronger candidate than kevconsim for me. Reading from his previous games, his contribution always seems to be rather limited which makes him an extremely uncertain lynch target in my opinion.

On the issue of the roleblocks, I think we should wait another day before we make any judgments on whether m0nster or Barundur are lying. It seems especially strange that the number of people roleblocked should go from 1 to 2 (it seems far more likely for 2 people to have been roleblocked on the first night and only 1 on the 2nd night considering the collection of hits between the assassins). If there are indeed 2 roleblockers, why would they choose to not roleblock on the first day?


It's possible they had a strong blue read on one of their night one targets, like Pandain, and both hit and roleblocked someone.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
April 17 2011 23:20 GMT
#3127
On April 18 2011 08:09 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 07:54 TranceStorm wrote:
I'm going to vote for jaminz for today's lynch. Mig's post on jaminz is especially incriminating for me on jaminz' remarkable change in posting behavior. Considering how helpful he seemed to be in the previous game that Mig spotted (Haunted Mafia), you would expect that jaminz would contribute a little more in the current circumstances.

jaminz is a much stronger candidate than kevconsim for me. Reading from his previous games, his contribution always seems to be rather limited which makes him an extremely uncertain lynch target in my opinion.

On the issue of the roleblocks, I think we should wait another day before we make any judgments on whether m0nster or Barundur are lying. It seems especially strange that the number of people roleblocked should go from 1 to 2 (it seems far more likely for 2 people to have been roleblocked on the first night and only 1 on the 2nd night considering the collection of hits between the assassins). If there are indeed 2 roleblockers, why would they choose to not roleblock on the first day?


It's possible they had a strong blue read on one of their night one targets, like Pandain, and both hit and roleblocked someone.

I had missed that option, but it does seems unlikely - especially on night 1. Considering that vigilantes could not shoot yet, the only reason why they would hit and roleblock the same person was if they suspected that their target was a medic (since the actions of dead detectives/trackers/watchers are useless if they are dead). But the reasoning for roleblocking a medic on night 1 seems incredibly faulty since the chance that the mafia would hit someone medic protected on night 1 was very slim.
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
April 17 2011 23:20 GMT
#3128
I agree on one of TranceStorm's posts but disagree on another one.

On April 17 2011 02:02 TranceStorm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 00:18 Conversion wrote:
Woulf it even be detrimental to mislynch today?

If not, I'll be fine getting lynched since Barundar seems to believe that I'm mafia because of my play, regardless of what I tell him.

I'm detrimental to town at this point and I don't even know how to make a post without someone analyzing me/questioning me.

If you guys don't care about lynching mafia (as we lost quite a few over the past day/night), might as well lynch a lurker, like me.

But then again, lynching me gets town nowhere, but whatever.

I find your responses to being put under pressure very troubling though. In the very beginning, you seemed to be more active and willing to question the motives of other players. After Barundur started to put pressure on you, you put up the excuse that you were new and wanted to avoid being seen as scum repeatedly - until we've reached this moment where you are basically saying "lynch me, but you'll regret it!". To me, the fact that you have withdrawn as the game moved on is highly suspicious especially since each post seems to be a justification as to why you shouldn't have to make contentful posts in the future.


I think conversion was relatively scummy throughout the game. No huge tells but he is not helping the town although it seems like is is trying to (or faking trying to). I'm pretty sure someone did a decent analysis earlier of him that was pretty convincing.


On April 18 2011 07:54 TranceStorm wrote:
I'm going to vote for jaminz for today's lynch. Mig's post on jaminz is especially incriminating for me on jaminz' remarkable change in posting behavior. Considering how helpful he seemed to be in the previous game that Mig spotted (Haunted Mafia), you would expect that jaminz would contribute a little more in the current circumstances.

jaminz is a much stronger candidate than kevconsim for me. Reading from his previous games, his contribution always seems to be rather limited which makes him an extremely uncertain lynch target in my opinion.

On the issue of the roleblocks, I think we should wait another day before we make any judgments on whether m0nster or Barundur are lying. It seems especially strange that the number of people roleblocked should go from 1 to 2 (it seems far more likely for 2 people to have been roleblocked on the first night and only 1 on the 2nd night considering the collection of hits between the assassins). If there are indeed 2 roleblockers, why would they choose to not roleblock on the first day?


I stated earlier that all of jaminz's "scummy" posts really point much more to him being a novice at the game than anything else. The same goes for M0nsterchef. I had a strong scum read on him early in the game but once he blue claimed I reversed my thinking on him. I believe him to be an inexperienced player who felt like he had to claim his blue status in order to avoid being lynched. It's a perfectly rational thing to do even if it's not the smartest thing to do.

I think the issue that makes me think conversion is the summiest looking player we have is the fact that he is advocating the lynch of M0nsterchef, who I think we should believe to be blue. He already voted for M0nsterChef as well. Mafia want blues dead and it would be better to kill blues with a lynch so they can focus on killing other players with their KP.

I'm placing my vote on conversion.
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
April 17 2011 23:38 GMT
#3129
On April 18 2011 08:20 AirbladeOrange wrote:
I stated earlier that all of jaminz's "scummy" posts really point much more to him being a novice at the game than anything else.

I would agree with that if we had no knowledge of jaminz' prior Mafia playstyle, but Mig's analysis is pretty telling. jaminz has previously posted in another mafia game (Haunted Mafia) with some helpful analysis at a pretty consistent rate - not at all what he is doing here. The novice excuse definitely does not work in this example, like it might to m0nster, since we have seen him actively posting beforehand.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
April 17 2011 23:44 GMT
#3130
On April 18 2011 07:32 chaoser wrote:
[image loading]

STREAM LINK: http://www.livestream.com/deconduo

HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE


Everyone go watch this!!!

On a more serious note, right now there are going to be about 10 modkills. If this happens, I'm not sure I'll want to continue the game. So please vote!
SUNSFANNED
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
April 17 2011 23:47 GMT
#3131
Was this the last haunted mafia game that Dr. H put on? I actually played that game but didn't really have any idea what was going on. It was my first mafia game. I also don't remember really any players from it. I think whoever was the town leader ended up being the mafia vampire dracula godfather guy and they ended up winning.

ANYWAY, all I can work with is my personal experience with jaminz in this game. I guess I can't really hold it against people are are voting for him because of his past games but I won't take other people's word as the basis for my own decisions.

I really don't think he is mafia and I want to ask anyone voting for him or who haven't voted yet to reconsider tying the noose around jaminz's neck.

The_Roist
Profile Joined April 2010
United States58 Posts
April 17 2011 23:48 GMT
#3132
I got totally lost reading up on some your (TL's) past games, i'm glad to see its not always like this one. After looking at these past games I think that our best lynch is jaminz and will thus be voting for him based primarily on the discrepancy between his past town play and his current play.

and to whoever it was that said DocH had reason to lie about the names of the BGs I agree that it is INCREDIBLY improbable however it is possible that both GMarshal and DocH were/are mafia and thus can hide a mafia in with the BGs, with two in office, one as a false bodyguard and annother as GF half the team would be essentially invisible, not that I really believe thats whats happening but that is the reason I wanted to know about the BG role PMs, obviously if I can catch a mafia with a single question, i'll ask it.
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
April 17 2011 23:53 GMT
#3133
voting Jeminz vor now, dont have time to do analysis or shit so following bandwagon.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 18 2011 00:00 GMT
#3134
We have myself, DrH the mayor, and bum the pro-town super hero on kevconism while lurkers like TranceStorm and Mig on the other. Gogo, you know where to vote.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
April 18 2011 00:10 GMT
#3135
Well at the moment I'm tempted to vote kevcon, simply because it looks like jaminz is getting modkilled
Bartundar
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
April 18 2011 00:33 GMT
#3136
I'm torn between monster and kev. But I'm gonna vote kev. I'm a maybe on ser, and I don't think jaminz is scum, because of the amount of semi-lukers voting for him. I smell rats.

Voting kev.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
kevconsim
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
April 18 2011 00:46 GMT
#3137
##vote jaminiz
I cant vote for my self. I just dont want to die.
Just to let you know that if you read really slow that you are in fact reading this beautifully written quote you will have totally wasted like 10 seconds of your life.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
April 18 2011 00:59 GMT
#3138
On April 18 2011 08:20 AirbladeOrange wrote:
I agree on one of TranceStorm's posts but disagree on another one.

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 02:02 TranceStorm wrote:
On April 17 2011 00:18 Conversion wrote:
Woulf it even be detrimental to mislynch today?

If not, I'll be fine getting lynched since Barundar seems to believe that I'm mafia because of my play, regardless of what I tell him.

I'm detrimental to town at this point and I don't even know how to make a post without someone analyzing me/questioning me.

If you guys don't care about lynching mafia (as we lost quite a few over the past day/night), might as well lynch a lurker, like me.

But then again, lynching me gets town nowhere, but whatever.

I find your responses to being put under pressure very troubling though. In the very beginning, you seemed to be more active and willing to question the motives of other players. After Barundur started to put pressure on you, you put up the excuse that you were new and wanted to avoid being seen as scum repeatedly - until we've reached this moment where you are basically saying "lynch me, but you'll regret it!". To me, the fact that you have withdrawn as the game moved on is highly suspicious especially since each post seems to be a justification as to why you shouldn't have to make contentful posts in the future.


I think conversion was relatively scummy throughout the game. No huge tells but he is not helping the town although it seems like is is trying to (or faking trying to). I'm pretty sure someone did a decent analysis earlier of him that was pretty convincing.


Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 07:54 TranceStorm wrote:
I'm going to vote for jaminz for today's lynch. Mig's post on jaminz is especially incriminating for me on jaminz' remarkable change in posting behavior. Considering how helpful he seemed to be in the previous game that Mig spotted (Haunted Mafia), you would expect that jaminz would contribute a little more in the current circumstances.

jaminz is a much stronger candidate than kevconsim for me. Reading from his previous games, his contribution always seems to be rather limited which makes him an extremely uncertain lynch target in my opinion.

On the issue of the roleblocks, I think we should wait another day before we make any judgments on whether m0nster or Barundur are lying. It seems especially strange that the number of people roleblocked should go from 1 to 2 (it seems far more likely for 2 people to have been roleblocked on the first night and only 1 on the 2nd night considering the collection of hits between the assassins). If there are indeed 2 roleblockers, why would they choose to not roleblock on the first day?


I stated earlier that all of jaminz's "scummy" posts really point much more to him being a novice at the game than anything else. The same goes for M0nsterchef. I had a strong scum read on him early in the game but once he blue claimed I reversed my thinking on him. I believe him to be an inexperienced player who felt like he had to claim his blue status in order to avoid being lynched. It's a perfectly rational thing to do even if it's not the smartest thing to do.

I think the issue that makes me think conversion is the summiest looking player we have is the fact that he is advocating the lynch of M0nsterchef, who I think we should believe to be blue. He already voted for M0nsterChef as well. Mafia want blues dead and it would be better to kill blues with a lynch so they can focus on killing other players with their KP.

I'm placing my vote on conversion.


SO let me get this straight.

1) you don't want to lynch jaminz because his "scummy" posts point him to being a novice, but that doesn't apply to me?
2) since you "believe" (what the fuck?) m0nster is blue, you think I'm scummy? rofl. okay. so if I claim vet early on to avoid a lynch and behave like a lurking scum, you'd still trust me? great play.
3) you don't even try to defend him by taking apart my analysis.

nice to know a few things about you. next time I play a game with you I'll claim a blue role so you ignore any analysis or post behavior and just believe me to be some newb blue role claimer.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 18 2011 01:17 GMT
#3139
yea okay. im gonna vote Kevconsim cause i dont wanna vote for Jaminz (But honestly, neither one seems alll that suspicious)
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AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
April 18 2011 01:46 GMT
#3140
I will just say one more thing about my earlier post. I have a very strong reason to believe jaminz is not red and I'm sticking to it. I'm not as sure that conversion is red as much as I believe jaminz to be town. Conversion just seems the scummiest person to me at this point. I would also be okay with a kev lynch.

Key point I want everyone to read: jaminz is not red.
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