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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 16 2011 19:23 GMT
#3061
Why don't you do some analysis yourself? I'm busy. All the vocal players are dead. There's not a DT claim into vet/vigi claim into a pardon threat. We have 48 hours to decide on a lynch. We're pressuring jaminz. Post something and do some analysis or GTFO
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
April 16 2011 20:15 GMT
#3062
On April 17 2011 02:41 M0nsterChef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 14:24 Mig wrote:
Was anyone roleblocked last night? I believe barundar is the only one who said he was roleblocked n1.



I was roleblocked.

I highly doubt scum have 2 roleblockers. I suggest we lynch either me or m0nster to clear this up.
Bartundar
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 16 2011 20:22 GMT
#3063
On April 17 2011 05:15 Barundar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 02:41 M0nsterChef wrote:
On April 16 2011 14:24 Mig wrote:
Was anyone roleblocked last night? I believe barundar is the only one who said he was roleblocked n1.



I was roleblocked.

I highly doubt scum have 2 roleblockers. I suggest we lynch either me or m0nster to clear this up.


Are you suggesting that M0nster selected a townie at random to claim to track and hoped that he did not leave his house? Or do you think red is his scum buddy?

If the game is stacked with blues, then 2 role blockers is not out of the question.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
April 16 2011 20:22 GMT
#3064
On April 17 2011 04:20 urashimakt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 02:44 TranceStorm wrote:
On April 17 2011 02:41 M0nsterChef wrote:
On April 16 2011 14:24 Mig wrote:
Was anyone roleblocked last night? I believe barundar is the only one who said he was roleblocked n1.



I was roleblocked.

So there were at least two roleblocks tonight. Which is strange considering that (as far as I know), Barundur was the only one who said that he was roleblocked after night 1. Did someone not claim that they were roleblocked on day 2?

It's possible a dead person was roleblocked and killed the same night. You're not allowed to give vital information in your "death post".

So there's been less than 1 page of discussion since last night and it looks like people are already deciding on Jaminz? Are we just going after lurkers now?

I'll post my suspects tomorrow when I'm not drunk out of my mind.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
April 16 2011 20:23 GMT
#3065
On April 17 2011 05:22 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 05:15 Barundar wrote:
On April 17 2011 02:41 M0nsterChef wrote:
On April 16 2011 14:24 Mig wrote:
Was anyone roleblocked last night? I believe barundar is the only one who said he was roleblocked n1.



I was roleblocked.

I highly doubt scum have 2 roleblockers. I suggest we lynch either me or m0nster to clear this up.


Are you suggesting that M0nster selected a townie at random to claim to track and hoped that he did not leave his house? Or do you think red is his scum buddy?

If the game is stacked with blues, then 2 role blockers is not out of the question.

I have no idea. All I know is I was roleblocked again.
Bartundar
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
April 16 2011 20:31 GMT
#3066
On April 17 2011 04:23 chaoser wrote:
Why don't you do some analysis yourself? I'm cranky!

Grumpy Gus. I'm not disagreeing, I think that after certain circumstances occurred and the frustration of those who have been revealed, the remaining reds are probably lurkers that are barely playing.

On April 17 2011 05:15 Barundar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 02:41 M0nsterChef wrote:
On April 16 2011 14:24 Mig wrote:
Was anyone roleblocked last night? I believe barundar is the only one who said he was roleblocked n1.



I was roleblocked.

I highly doubt scum have 2 roleblockers. I suggest we lynch either me or m0nster to clear this up.

I would be against lynching the person who suggested modkilling a mafia goon. That said, there's a few things we know about M0nster:

- He's been constantly harassed by redFF
- He's pretty inactive
- He voted for GM before presenting his reasoning
- GM suggested lynching him
- He fought against lynching the guy GM wanted to lynch
- He asked who should be dt'ed/tracked
- He claimed tracker
- He voted to lynch Coag
- He called LSB scum

It's no surprise that a claimed tracker would be roleblocked. The rest of his voting habits fall in line with most of the other confirmed/dead townies. I don't think he's really the lurker that should be lynched.
Who dat ninja?
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
April 16 2011 20:34 GMT
#3067
Joining in on the pressure, I suppose.

##Vote Jaminz
Who dat ninja?
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 16 2011 20:36 GMT
#3068
Jaminz, ignoring these votes isn't going to help you. I suggest you post if you want to survive.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 16 2011 20:48 GMT
#3069
On April 16 2011 12:59 ilovejonn wrote:
I have a feeling most of the active players besides the 2 that died aren't RED. Red, I didn't say black. Why? If Coagulation was chosen as their Godfather, I have a feeling there are a few of the newer players in the scum team as well. No offense to Coag of course. Once the GM using Pardon debate sparked up, note how almost NONE of the newer players stood out to say anything other than bandwagon vote in the vote thread. As such I've looked through some of the newer names and here is what I think of jaminz.

Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 13:32 jaminz wrote:
I realize I've been inactive for pretty much the entire game so far, and I don't really have a great excuse other than that I've been a bit busy lately. However, I'm working my way through the thread right now, and plan to be completely caught up by the end of the night.

I've only played one game of Mafia before (Haunted Mafia this past Halloween - put on by Doctor H), so I'm still fairly new to the game, but I'm doing what I can to take everything in. Thanks in advance for everyone being patient with me.


Okay, maybe 1 or 2 people called him/her out for being inactive and he felt the need to defend/explain why this is so. I did not read this post in context but this isn't really one of the important posts. However the bolded part is something to take note of, perhaps newer players feel the need to say nice things such as "thanks" or "sorry" in order to compensate the inherent guilt they have for being mafia.

Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 13:39 jaminz wrote:
On April 12 2011 13:34 chaoser wrote:
On April 12 2011 13:32 jaminz wrote:
I realize I've been inactive for pretty much the entire game so far, and I don't really have a great excuse other than that I've been a bit busy lately. However, I'm working my way through the thread right now, and plan to be completely caught up by the end of the night.

I've only played one game of Mafia before (Haunted Mafia this past Halloween - put on by Doctor H), so I'm still fairly new to the game, but I'm doing what I can to take everything in. Thanks in advance for everyone being patient with me.


Claims he needs to catch up.

On April 12 2011 08:49 jaminz wrote:
##Vote Doctor Helevetica


Voted DrH hours in advance


I'll be completely honest about that one, and you can ridicule me all you want for it: I was nervous that I'd be modkilled for not voting, and wanted to make sure I had a vote in before things got too out of hand so I voted for Dr. H. I know he knows how to play the game, and my gut said he was the one to pick.

Alright, this post I can understand. People have stuff to do IRL and this guy's scum read at the beginning of the game is Dr. H, so he votes him.

Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 11:55 jaminz wrote:
Man, this game is pretty intense. I'm having a bit of trouble keeping up, but I'm working on it. It seems like Bumatlarge, DoctorH, and GMarshal have all had a lot of analysis done on them so far, so I'll try to look at a few of the other players and post whatever analysis I can.

I didn't read in context again, but jaminz was laying so low I don't think anyone called him out on being inactive at that time? But he comes out of no where to say nothing but he is working on reading and catching up on the thread. Says he'll do analysis. Look at the time stamp, it is April 13 TL time, and it's April 16 TL time right now. This is a clear guilt trip post to make people not call him out on being inactive.

Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 16:09 jaminz wrote:
On April 15 2011 15:33 Coagulation wrote:
SO YOU NEW PEOPLE HAVING FUN YET?


It's definitely interesting to read everything. It's much easier when we don't get mass pages of posts quickly, but I guess that's how you figure out who is mafia isn't it.

The most important post of all. What this post tells me is that jaminz knows or thinks he knows how people think they can catch scum. By reading posts. In that sense, the more you post the more likely you'll get found out! Newbie mafia mistake? Do note, that all the quotes I have are all the posts jaminz has had so far. I also felt that the need for him to quote and respond to Coag's question was probably because jaminz and Coag is on the same scum team.

Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 13:56 jaminz wrote:
#Vote DoctorHelvetica

it's a placeholder, yell at me if you want

This was near the end of Day 2, when GM was about to get lynched. It is April 15. jaminz said that he would do analysis on April 13. Even if he did not, there were CLEAR targets for her to put a placeholder vote on. Who does he put it on? Dr. H again. Why? Maybe because he doesn't want to feel bad for voting GM or Coag since they are on the same team.

Conclusion: jaminz is mafia.

i had the same feeling but making Coag GF could be cause DocH trusted Coag during day1. But i fully agree there are new players in the mafia team (Serejai) and another suspect i believe to be is Mafia is Latrommi, the inactive guy who isnt even on the player list (wtf)..

i gave small reasoning why he could be mafia a while ago.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 16 2011 20:51 GMT
#3070
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 16 2011 12:46 DropBear wrote:
Alright Kenpachi.

Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 11:50 Kenpachi wrote:
On April 16 2011 11:06 DropBear wrote:
My original Mafia team:

GMarshal Dead
Kenpachi
Serejai
Robellicose


Marshal was red, serejai has requested replacement and apparently made a blue claim somewhere? Kenpachi dismissed me as a newbie and Robellicose has gone silent.

My initial reasoning was based on Coag being assassin, with the other three jumping on the bandwagon to elect Marshal and lynch coag. Now that coag has flipped red.... I'm not as sure on the other three anymore.

Kenpachi you have dismissed me completely since I accused you. I've had a more detailed look through your history and I can't see any pattern at all no matter what role you have. I'll lay off you for the moment but you've still piqued my interest.


what the fuck. this guy cant read or something?


You have dismissed me. Repeatedly. The only real refutation you have is this:

Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 06:46 Kenpachi wrote:
hi. anyone who analyzes me is new to this game clearly.

I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT MOST OF YOUR POINTS OF ME ARE INVALID
If you look at my posts carefully, youd notice that i was against voting Protact. Though i didnt say i didnt trust DrH, i didnt. GM was the best choice. Also, i post a mayoral run every game with mayor. Do i get votes? This is the first game where i got a vote. Please look at the current situation when you analyze my posts. Think for a second. Your questionings of my posts are easily answered if you just 1 or 2 pages around my post .... I dont think your scum. you are just trying to be useful because no one analyzes me


Imo, ilovejonn and Wiggles are the most scummy in the game and that list infact was not a joke but a list of my own suspects. Just, im too lazy to back up my reasonings. Besides, i wanted people to respond to it and i included that little paragraph for a reason. please read it carefully (with emphasis on the like). Ill do in 2 days or so (if im not too lazy then because thats when my break begins ) but just telling you, my analyses are inaccurate as i was wrong on iGrok and wrong on everyone before that.

Conclusion: you are a newbie in TL Mafia. Welcome!


You say GM is the best choice, yet despite being active around the deadline post that you think your vote is on the wrong guy and don't change it.
You claim that I should be disregarded because I'm new and noone analyses you.
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 11:06 DropBear wrote:
I've had a more detailed look through your history and I can't see any pattern at all no matter what role you have. I'll lay off you for the moment but you've still piqued my interest.

It's understandable to me now.

Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 12:23 Kenpachi wrote:
On April 15 2011 12:10 DropBear wrote:
This is my scum team:

GMarshal
Kenpachi
Serejai
Robellicose


Marshal is red. He's flipflopped so many times it's ridiculous. His DT claim is rubbish. Kenpachi, Serejai and Robellicose are bandwagoning for him, while trying to stay under the radar.

I can't seem to convince anyone about Kenpachi and Marshal does have the pardon, so I'm switching to him.

keke

your analysis on me was terrible btw.

Why was it terrible exactly?
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 12:44 Kenpachi wrote:
On April 15 2011 12:42 DropBear wrote:
On April 15 2011 12:24 Kenpachi wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote GMarshal

Now that I have called you out, you are bussing him. I'm pretty certain now.

lol


Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 12:52 GGQ wrote:
On April 15 2011 12:45 Kenpachi wrote:
DropBear i wont argue with you. you're just new.


I'd like to see your argument, actually. You've just dismissed the accusation over and over. I trust DropBear more than you at this point. Let's see what you have to say for yourself.


I don't see any really good defences here.

Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 11:52 Kenpachi wrote:
On April 16 2011 11:05 Rean wrote:
On April 16 2011 10:50 DropBear wrote:
It is obvious now that Protactinium's DT claim is a lie.

- He claimed to check Coagulation and find mafia
- Coagulation was the godfather. There is no way he would have chosen to appear godfather.

Protact has pretty much confirmed himself as an assassin for mine.


Captain Obvious to the rescue!

Can you please try and post something slightly less useless? Your analysis on Kenpachi wasn't half bad, maybe try it again on someone else you believe to be scum. I know you're capable of that.

wasnt half bad? it made no stance on me being mafia

No stance? I gave a very strong stance. I said out and out that I suspected you.
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 12:21 Kenpachi wrote:
haha dude why dont you respond to me DropBear?


Now I have. Could you respond to me please?

what are you trying to say
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 16 2011 21:13 GMT
#3071
Latrommi got replaced by CubEdIn


On April 14 2011 01:21 BrownBear wrote:
SUPER HOST TO SAVE THE DAY!!!

First things first, Coag, please cut out the personal attacks, flaming, and allcaps. This is the last time I'll ask nicely. Also, Doc H, you've done it a couple times too, so please don't

Second, CubEdIn is indeed back, replacing Latrommi. What is up with all these people dropping I don't even.

Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 16 2011 21:54 GMT
#3072
well that threw me off. you should really put that in the list :S
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 16 2011 22:12 GMT
#3073
Way too quiet, you guys realize we haven't won yet right?

Hopefully I'll be able to write something up in a couple hours. Would like to hear much more from others.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 16 2011 23:45 GMT
#3074
BB please update your Important posts list and would somebody please PM me the link to the dead zone.

Goes back to being dead.
Life can only kill you once.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 17 2011 01:38 GMT
#3075
ARISE MY MAFIA PLAYING COMPANIONS.
please talk.. theres nothing going on .. damn you mafiaaaaaaaaaaaa
you killed LSB and that took away a potential debate
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 17 2011 01:41 GMT
#3076
I'm watching the thread but no one's posting much, I got a whole bunch of work to do tonight but I promise tomorrow I'll be back into the thick of it. I got a good lead and some solid stuff to talk about.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 17 2011 01:45 GMT
#3077
I don't know what to talk about. Already pressuring a lurker/inactive. They don't seem to want to come out and defend themselves, so I don't feel like I should switch to another target, since we can only lynch 1 target at a time. Are they even reading the thread..? Sigh.
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
April 17 2011 02:27 GMT
#3078
I'm reading the thread.

I'm really, really trying to analyze someone but I don't know how to analyze

1) lurkers that post as little as I did

or

2) both players I tried to analyze seem freaking pro town.

Just off the top of my head, people who haven't been contributing as much as I did (none)

22.The_Roist
25.jaminz
30.MetalFace
36.Robellicose
37.Mig
39.Conversion

Now I believe Metalface (?) and someone else (was it Robellicose) were bodyguard.

I doubt can be mafia. There's no way a scum team, with a few experienced players in their team, would allow jaminz to lurk for so long, making four(!!) posts in the entire thread. He hasn't really disrupted ideal town environment, just posted a few things here and there.

M0nsterchef looks really suspicious to me.
+ Show Spoiler [My first attempt at analysis] +

+ Show Spoiler [voting for GMarshal] +
On April 11 2011 08:20 M0nsterChef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 07:35 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On April 11 2011 07:32 M0nsterChef wrote:
I read the thread and made a vote based on who I think I deserves the role the most. Am I not allowed to vote?


No, but it looks highly suspicious that you don't post any thoughts/opinions (or anything at all really) since the game has started, and then come in and vote.

What are your thoughts on the current situation?

Why do you like GMarshal the best for mayor?

Why don't you like the other candidates?



Alright, so I made a really noob mistake of not posting a bunch before I make a vote. It's my first game here, and while I know that shouldn't be an excuse, it's the only one I can come up with.

Anyways, as for questions

What are your thoughts on the current situation?

Just reading the past pages of posts has made me realize I need to be more careful with what I post, and I should post more often.

Why do you like GMarshal the best for mayor?

-Seems to be more analyst oriented
-Is willing to consider the lynch of kavdragon
-Seems to be "Pro-town"
-Protactium seems to care too much about the assassin game.
-Pandain is trying to get Protactium to be mayor by making people support him through his dt reveal, I don't think this is smart.

Why don't you like the other candidates?
-Now that I voted for GMarshal , AirbladeOrange, RedFF say I should be lynched.
-Protactium has said he is not town.





On April 14 2011 07:38 M0nsterChef wrote:
If we lynch coagulation and he flips green, then do we automatically lynch FW?

Also: which people do you guys think deserve dt/ tracker checks?


A template to set up for his "tracker" claim

On April 14 2011 08:12 M0nsterChef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 08:10 GMarshal wrote:
On April 14 2011 08:06 M0nsterChef wrote:
On April 14 2011 07:45 redFF wrote:
On April 14 2011 07:38 M0nsterChef wrote:
If we lynch coagulation and he flips green, then do we automatically lynch FW?

Also: which people do you guys think deserve dt/ tracker checks?


Why do you ask, are u dt/tracker? How about you post your opinions on anything for once. Do you trust Flamewheel? Do you think we should lynch coag? What do you think of the huge post i made trying to prove to other people you are scum??? You haven't made one post talking about your stance on any issues, come on!!! THIS GUY IS FUCKING SCUM


I'm not scum.


Wonderful defense, I love how you indexed it and everything so I could easily refernce the different points.

Theres a well bodied accusation against you out there. Please try to defend yourself better than this.


I'm a tracker. I tracked RedFF and he didn't go anywhere.


His "tracker" claim. GMarshal even facepalmed at his tracker claim to make it seem legitimate

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 15 2011 07:28 M0nsterChef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 07:14 LSB wrote:
[image loading]

Read this

So, you, yes you. Why are you lynching Coagulation? Are you trusting the words of a Mafia who lied about being an Assassin, and has been Proven by Gmarshall to be lying about his role of detective?

Why are you lynching coagulation? Because you think he's red?

How about this. A compromise.

The Plan:
Today we lynch Prot
Tonight we will call for a Vig hit on Coagulation

If Coagulation is hit and survives the night, that means he is vet. If he isn't vet, he'll just be dead. Win win.

Why this is preferable that letting Prot live
Contrary to popular belief, Mafia and assassins have little incentive to kill Prot. This is because they know that if they let Prot live, he'll just be lynched. This is good for them because it takes heat off of them for one day.

We will need to lynch Prot one way or the other. If we do it this way according to plan, we 1) Save a lynch. 2) If coag is saying the truth, we'll have 1 more townie.


I think the vig hit is a lot more valueable than that, and should be used to actually kill a confirmed scum (assuming there are vigis in the game).

Also, the mafia do not have "little incentive to kill Prot". He's just another player to eliminate and killing him will help them win the game.


He soft defends LSB's plan to vig shot Coagulation.

On April 15 2011 11:51 M0nsterChef wrote:
#Vote Coagulation

Although I really think LSB might be sum with his rather anti town plan.


Busses Coag, trying to blend in with town. He even thinks Coag is a waste of a vig shot, but is important enough to warrant a lynch.


Along with this, we have Barundar, a pro-town player, claiming to be roleblocked twice.

M0nsterchef, like the many other times he showed up to post, defends himself with a "I was roleblocked" claim.

Now, regardless if the roleblock thing is true or not, his posting habits and behavior seem incredibly scummy. He posted a grand total of three times after shit went down in this thread.

He doesn't even vote for GMarshal, which was either to not seem like a sheep or he was inactive to take his "bus" off coag.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
April 17 2011 02:28 GMT
#3079
EBWOP: I doubt jaminz can be mafia**
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
April 17 2011 02:29 GMT
#3080
Sorry for the random spoilers in some of my "analysis," if you can even call it that.
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