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The_Roist
Profile Joined April 2010
United States58 Posts
April 16 2011 07:55 GMT
#3041
Can DoctorHelvetica provide any form of proof that metalFace and I are indeed the bodygaurds?
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
April 16 2011 07:57 GMT
#3042
Lol you aren't informed if you are the BG?
Bartundar
The_Roist
Profile Joined April 2010
United States58 Posts
April 16 2011 08:04 GMT
#3043
Nope, I sent a PM to brownBear, he said that the BGs are not told that they are BGs. I just want to know if there is a way to really "prove" who the BGs are.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 16 2011 08:05 GMT
#3044
My reads are mostly based around the idea that mafia would never vote for coagulation as well as posting behavior and stances they took on issues that came up. I can write in full tomorrow but the short story is that Coag was GF. That means a check on him would never come up red. But prot said it did. This is basically RoL v Ace in Mafia V and I was on the mafia team that game. To catch someone in a lie but not be able to do anything about it is infuriating because the only way you can prove him wrong is to out your own member. You either take a neutral stance and don't say anything or you're against the issue. At the most you would silently sheep with the idea. Those people not only posted in a manner than gave credibility to prot's claims but they also argued, however long, against others who questioned the claim.

I will post in full tomorrow when I am free but for now that's my reasoning. Those are the few that I've had the time to read over so far, I'll look over the rest tomorrow. We got two days and only 2 KP to worry about, I'd say we're in a decent place.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
April 16 2011 08:09 GMT
#3045
On April 16 2011 17:04 The_Roist wrote:
Nope, I sent a PM to brownBear, he said that the BGs are not told that they are BGs. I just want to know if there is a way to really "prove" who the BGs are.

If you die, you flip BG.
Who dat ninja?
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
April 16 2011 08:10 GMT
#3046
Ok, I'll put my thought out then. It's not hard for mafia to plant a vote on coag when everyone else does. Aidnai opposed listening to Protact and he was town, so did LSB.

I'm suspicious of the people that planted a vote on coag with little to no reasoning. 'Specially if they switched to LSB or argued for switching to him later.
Bartundar
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
April 16 2011 08:15 GMT
#3047
Well I guess barundar is town...

If I was mafia, and I saw protact do that, I'd think I would immediately distance myself, but who knows. If you want to throw a list together based on who didnt vote coag and who voted GM, go for it. And I don't see any reason for DH to lie about who the BGs are.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
April 16 2011 09:07 GMT
#3048
Well...it was fun...I told you guys I wasn't scum.

Can another dead guy pm me the irc information please?
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 16 2011 11:40 GMT
#3049
Good luck town.
Nobody ever gives me a gun.
Life can only kill you once.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
April 16 2011 15:18 GMT
#3050
Woulf it even be detrimental to mislynch today?

If not, I'll be fine getting lynched since Barundar seems to believe that I'm mafia because of my play, regardless of what I tell him.

I'm detrimental to town at this point and I don't even know how to make a post without someone analyzing me/questioning me.

If you guys don't care about lynching mafia (as we lost quite a few over the past day/night), might as well lynch a lurker, like me.

But then again, lynching me gets town nowhere, but whatever.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
April 16 2011 15:26 GMT
#3051
Conversion I'm not put in this world to tell you how to play as town, but here goes: You ask what to do to not look suspicious. My answer is, you have to stop worrying about looking suspicious, and post honest thoughts. Don't wait for me or someone else to call you out first. What I want is opinions, and the more you are willing to discuss said opinions with reasonable arguments, the more I believe you are town.

One of the things coag as mafia had a time with, was never say who or why he suspected someone.

It's never beneficial not to lynch mafia. But you have to try helping town weed out the scum. If you do that I will take my vote off you.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
April 16 2011 15:34 GMT
#3052
And everyone else, we might be in a good spot, but this is by no means won yet. Inactivity has lost many games for town before after a good start. We have a bunch more information now, so even if it's discouragingly long, please try and go re-read some of day 1 and 2. I promise you will see things in a new light.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
April 16 2011 15:58 GMT
#3053
After actually following my own advice and read the thread I will be taking my vote off you conversion. But please, contribute .

##unvote
##Vote Jaminz
Bartundar
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
April 16 2011 16:39 GMT
#3054
Ok, I've been out a bit, but here are a couple of my thoughts on the issue at hand. First of all, simply because someone voted for coagulation does not clear them in my opinion. I don't really know the specifics of what GMarshal was planning, but he did try to pardon the lynch. I would imagine that his intention would be to try to end the lynch(?) right there meaning that he could save both himself and coag for the day's lynch. Luckily, his strategy didn't work out, but that means that the mafia probably didn't care where their votes were since they were expecting a pardon (they might not have been aware of GMarshal's strategy, but I doubt that).

On the topic of the lynch for today, I think we should wait for more solid accusations from perhaps what the detective/tracker/watchers discovered. Since we do have a full 48 hours, we should let those reports take precedence right now over our suspicions. The fact that the mafia only has 2 kp means that we should take everything a bit slower since we do have so many chances to catch them.
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
April 16 2011 17:02 GMT
#3055
On April 17 2011 00:18 Conversion wrote:
Woulf it even be detrimental to mislynch today?

If not, I'll be fine getting lynched since Barundar seems to believe that I'm mafia because of my play, regardless of what I tell him.

I'm detrimental to town at this point and I don't even know how to make a post without someone analyzing me/questioning me.

If you guys don't care about lynching mafia (as we lost quite a few over the past day/night), might as well lynch a lurker, like me.

But then again, lynching me gets town nowhere, but whatever.

I find your responses to being put under pressure very troubling though. In the very beginning, you seemed to be more active and willing to question the motives of other players. After Barundur started to put pressure on you, you put up the excuse that you were new and wanted to avoid being seen as scum repeatedly - until we've reached this moment where you are basically saying "lynch me, but you'll regret it!". To me, the fact that you have withdrawn as the game moved on is highly suspicious especially since each post seems to be a justification as to why you shouldn't have to make contentful posts in the future.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 17:23:42
April 16 2011 17:23 GMT
#3056
On April 16 2011 16:55 The_Roist wrote:
Can DoctorHelvetica provide any form of proof that metalFace and I are indeed the bodygaurds?


Posting any PMs from the host is against the rules and will result in a modkill.
SUNSFANNED
M0nsterChef
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada67 Posts
April 16 2011 17:41 GMT
#3057
On April 16 2011 14:24 Mig wrote:
Was anyone roleblocked last night? I believe barundar is the only one who said he was roleblocked n1.



I was roleblocked.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 16 2011 17:43 GMT
#3058
DUH DUH DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
April 16 2011 17:44 GMT
#3059
On April 17 2011 02:41 M0nsterChef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 14:24 Mig wrote:
Was anyone roleblocked last night? I believe barundar is the only one who said he was roleblocked n1.



I was roleblocked.

So there were at least two roleblocks tonight. Which is strange considering that (as far as I know), Barundur was the only one who said that he was roleblocked after night 1. Did someone not claim that they were roleblocked on day 2?
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
April 16 2011 19:20 GMT
#3060
On April 17 2011 02:44 TranceStorm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 02:41 M0nsterChef wrote:
On April 16 2011 14:24 Mig wrote:
Was anyone roleblocked last night? I believe barundar is the only one who said he was roleblocked n1.



I was roleblocked.

So there were at least two roleblocks tonight. Which is strange considering that (as far as I know), Barundur was the only one who said that he was roleblocked after night 1. Did someone not claim that they were roleblocked on day 2?

It's possible a dead person was roleblocked and killed the same night. You're not allowed to give vital information in your "death post".

So there's been less than 1 page of discussion since last night and it looks like people are already deciding on Jaminz? Are we just going after lurkers now?
Who dat ninja?
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