I'd like it if TB didn't catch so much shit in my threads. I understand I've set a confusing pace because I myself give him a hard time but lets get a few facts out there:

A. he does a good job casting
B. He cares about this game and has genuinely helped it grow
C. He is NOT a bad guy

I think his accent is hilarious and he is defensive so he catches some teasing from me but attacking him personally is wrong. I understand some of my remarks in the past have crossed that border (I immediately apologized [assembly] because I didn't have the full info).

shawnyee

Sweden53 Posts

February 26 2011 23:44 GMT

#442

On February 26 2011 05:19 Logo wrote:
Boo serious iNcontrol! Long live inappropriate sarcastic and awesome iNcontrol!

What's the point of growing ESPORTS if it loses it's heart and soul along the way

This, we dont want you turn into someting you're not. Might want to soften up them corners though. <3

.Aar

Korea (South)2177 Posts

February 26 2011 23:48 GMT

#443

Thanks iNc, I wish you the best of luck for the future and look forward to you bringing us the future of esports.

TrainFX

United States469 Posts

February 26 2011 23:53 GMT

#444

So if making fun of Kelly was inappropriate and mean then what makes it different for anyone else that you make fun of?

it's k that you gotta say what you gotta say for your PR and I still think your hilarious but I completely lost all my respect for you.

anyways, have fun selling out. so far so good right? lol....

iNcontroL

USA29055 Posts

February 27 2011 00:01 GMT

#445

Making fun of 1 person's accent does not equal the same thing as making fun of someone elses.

For instance if someone mocked my accent that wouldn't be the same as mocking a less secure/asian individual.

TrainFX

United States469 Posts

February 27 2011 00:16 GMT

#446

On February 27 2011 09:01 iNcontroL wrote:
Making fun of 1 person's accent does not equal the same thing as making fun of someone elses.

For instance if someone mocked my accent that wouldn't be the same as mocking a less secure/asian individual.

I only meant to say making fun of someone in general. While kelly is deeply offended by you making fun of her accent who's to say artosis, or anyone else you've made fun of hasn't been really deeply offended by w/e you had to say about them? In the end it doesn't or rather SHOULDN'T matter that kelly was the one to seriously speak up about the things you say.

It's this exception to the rule bullshit that's really pissing me off inside... and it's not because I don't understand why you have to apologize like this, it's the fact you only feel the need to apologize to kelly because that's what you got in trouble for.

iNcontroL

USA29055 Posts

February 27 2011 00:26 GMT

#447

My same point can be extended to what you are now specifying. Making fun of friends, mocking people for dumb questions etc.. what ever other example you can bring up basically are not comparable to me making harsh jokes to vulnerable people.

Are you seriously arguing on behalf of never teasing anyone?

TrainFX

United States469 Posts

February 27 2011 00:32 GMT

#448

On February 27 2011 09:26 iNcontroL wrote:
My same point can be extended to what you are now specifying. Making fun of friends, mocking people for dumb questions etc.. what ever other example you can bring up basically are not comparable to me making harsh jokes to vulnerable people.

Are you seriously arguing on behalf of never teasing anyone?

If she's so vulnerable then why did you do it in the first place? And tell me when the last time the "I didn't know" excuse worked for anything serious?

On the other hand, touche my good sir.

alexpnd

Canada1857 Posts

February 27 2011 00:34 GMT

#449

You're doing everything right. I just have a wish that people who add value to the community are respected, like TB. He's great. Mocking an accent is alienating that accent, which does nobody any favors especially if you can't just stop speaking a particular way. I'm hopping on the hate-wagon for that one particular reason. Beyond that I have no qualms, nor do I believe they would be deemed interesting to anybody.

iNcontroL

USA29055 Posts

February 27 2011 00:34 GMT

#450

I dunno if you completely skirted this entire thread or just feel like digging at me.. nowhere do I say "i didn't know" so I don't get the edge to your post. I simply say it was completely and 100% wrong and that I won't do it any more.

What is the aim in your posts? You were giving me a hard time for "selling out" and have also accused me of a bunch of stuff... do you expect me to renounce accepting payment for anything SC2 related and then vow to never upset anyone ever again?

MisterPuppy

161 Posts

February 27 2011 00:39 GMT

#451

is this going to lead to you all actually talking about starcraft on state of the game or is it still going to be "gossip hour with jp and incontrol while day9 steadily avoids the podcast more and more to the point where he doesn't even come to it because you guys just talk lots of shit instead of discussing anything about the game."

actually thats a really catchy title.

crms

United States11933 Posts

February 27 2011 00:40 GMT

#452

you've done nothing that was bad enough to warrant this post. I feel bad people on the internet were so petty/cruel to take it this far.

Good luck with NASL and I look forward to the next SOTG.

iNcontroL

USA29055 Posts

February 27 2011 00:41 GMT

#453

if by avoiding you mean writing a thesis and traveling to international tourneys than no.. no style of conversation will prevent him from doing that.

CptnObvious

United States54 Posts

February 27 2011 00:44 GMT

#454

iNcontroL you're the man, don't change because of all the trolls out there! The only thing anyone can fault you on is re-stream of the GSL. We all make mistakes and the trolls need to chill. Seems to me people were just looking for something to come after you for. Anyway GL on the NASL!

MisterPuppy

161 Posts

February 27 2011 00:44 GMT

#455

omg you guys are actually going to talk about starcraft. i'm baffled.

TrainFX

United States469 Posts

February 27 2011 00:46 GMT

#456

On February 27 2011 09:34 iNcontroL wrote:
I dunno if you completely skirted this entire thread or just feel like digging at me.. nowhere do I say "i didn't know" so I don't get the edge to your post. I simply say it was completely and 100% wrong and that I won't do it any more.

What is the aim in your posts? You were giving me a hard time for "selling out" and have also accused me of a bunch of stuff... do you expect me to renounce accepting payment for anything SC2 related and then vow to never upset anyone ever again?

If one of the people you answer to didn't tell you or force you to make this thread then I'm utterly wrong about selling out, I didn't mean it in a monetary sense.

I just didn't think you were the kind of person to repeatedly apologize for something that was funny no matter how offensive it might be, I feel deceived and that's why I'm angry even though it's not your fault.

iNcontroL

USA29055 Posts

February 27 2011 00:48 GMT

#457

I wasn't asked to make this. It is in my own best interest to address my own fuck ups.

TrainFX

United States469 Posts

February 27 2011 00:51 GMT

#458

On February 27 2011 09:48 iNcontroL wrote:
I wasn't asked to make this. It is in my own best interest to address my own fuck ups.

I really appreciate that you responded to what I had to say and I feel a lot better... lol

ImHuko

United States996 Posts

February 27 2011 00:53 GMT

#459

So now because people can't take being verbal assaulted they are now less secure. After all, you did ban someone for criticizing you. So other than being asian, it is in fact the same.

alexpnd

Canada1857 Posts

February 27 2011 00:55 GMT

#460

On February 27 2011 09:53 ImHuko wrote:
So now because people can't take being verbal assaulted they are now less secure. After all, you did ban someone for criticizing you. So other than being asian, it is in fact the same.

You might need another edit.