EPTTL Mafia XXXVI - Page 52
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ilovejonn
Canada2548 Posts
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On January 29 2011 08:33 kitaman27 wrote: Modkills hurt the town even more than usually because there will be no way to tell if our lynch was correct when there are a bunch of other deaths mixed into the census. It's also very rare that modkills are mafia, because mafia is fun to play + they have teammates that will usually bug them to vote on time. However, fortunately modkills don't interfere with the biggest way we're going to tell how many mafia are left in the game - counting the number of nightkills. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
You have someone on your mind you would definitely kill if SK or mayor? As far as I know those 2 have different motives for their kills, atleast if the mayor is town. Unless you have some special knowledge of Kav's allignment? And if you want someone to get vigi'd you better speak up with names, if you are sure enough to kill them yourself? You don't feel like voting anyone, yett you are voting for something you yourself call a weak wagon? And when was Kav a lynch target before your post? But if he's SK, then mafia might go for him, and that might uncover things about BGs. If he's mafia, SK might go for BG and uncover stuff about other SK/Mafia Mafia can't night kill SK, so by go for him you mean start a bandwagon him? Something like you just did? This whole sentence is wishy washy, what information would SK gain from killing off BG's? You posted alot of thoughts on bodyguards day 1, but I found your posts really low on other content. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On January 29 2011 07:52 Mr. Wiggles wrote: There's clue analysis in Deconduo's post I quoted, stuff related to the scary movie and the thunder, lightning, rain, mostly stuff from the first day post. If he avoids mod kill I think he's an excellent candidate for our next lynch. Not today's but tomorrow. To you guys saying to use analysis instead of clues I say horsepucky. This game is set up in a manner that allows scum to play exactly as town. No flips allows them even more anonymity. Clues are all we can really rely on atm. Nemesis and Mr Zergling are the two best fits to what we have atm. I'm guessing one of them is SK. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
On January 29 2011 09:17 Barundar wrote: Lol want me to pick appart your post? It's filled with so many inconsistencies it's unbelievable. And whats with the apologies, did you get called out? Or just feeling nervous? Obviously, I'm feeling nervous because so many people are targeting me. I just apologized for lack of activity during this day. You have someone on your mind you would definitely kill if SK or mayor? As far as I know those 2 have different motives for their kills, atleast if the mayor is town. Unless you have some special knowledge of Kav's allignment? And if you want someone to get vigi'd you better speak up with names, if you are sure enough to kill them yourself? You misunderstand. I meant that I would kill someone if I had complete power over one kill. If I were mayor, I'd aim for SK/Mafia. If I were SK I'd aim for other SK/Mafia. So yeah. It doesn't matter what I was (vig would work as well), but if I had a kill of my own, it would be that person. I have, as you'd call it, a hunch. A pretty good one too, but there's no REAL evidence for me to back it up with. If I were to make a case against him, it would be weak. If I were to die the night after I made the case, you guys wouldn't have enough reason to kill said person. So why rush into "analysis" and risk getting killed, when I could make a good case against said person during the next day or two days from now? You don't feel like voting anyone, yett you are voting for something you yourself call a weak wagon? And when was Kav a lynch target before your post? I already said that Nemesis kinda-sorta-fits the clue about meapak, it's a weak wagon but it's the best I found on my own anyway. I don't know what you mean. I never implied said person was Kav. I just said that it would be the kind of kill I'd make IF I were kav on day one (when he had complete power over lynch). In fact, I don't think he's red, and even if he were, I don't think killing the mayor would be a good Idea. I said this before. Mafia can't night kill SK, so by go for him you mean start a bandwagon him? Something like you just did? This whole sentence is wishy washy, what information would SK gain from killing off BG's? This may be a bit hard for you to comprehend, since you said I was "going on" about BGs on day one. But BGs are a crucial part of this game. Here's why: a) Say town lynches a BG. Night can very well be a dead mayor (since other BG may be mafia). We lose census AND we lose the power to see if initial lynch was right. We lynch BG, we have... 1 red for mayor+surprise target. b) Say both BGs are scum Town will go all game in fear of lynching them, and they will run amok. So yeah. If a bg dies, then the next night will tell us A LOT, since I'm pretty sure that if Kav is town, then mafia will go for him. Either by killing other bg, or by 'going around' if they're red. IMO, any BG death will give us useful information, but will most likely also lead us to eventually losing the game because of lack of information about anything. You posted alot of thoughts on bodyguards day 1, but I found your posts really low on other content. That is true, but I have expressed my thoughts on the lynch targets, and I have expressed opinions about the rest of the game. The only thing I didn't speak about was "post analysis", simply because I'm not good at it. I did talk about behavior analysis, mainly how people played games before this. It's the best I can do at the moment, that and focusing on clues. If you think that's good enough reason to lynch me, then by all means, vote for me. | ||
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
On January 29 2011 09:25 Jackal58 wrote: ##Vote Nemesis and the bandwagon against me continues I'm not even going to bother to defend myself anymore as there isn't even a strong case against me. | ||
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Kavdragon
United States1251 Posts
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
On January 29 2011 09:39 CubEdIn wrote: Obviously, I'm feeling nervous because so many people are targeting me. I just apologized for lack of activity during this day. Only Coagulation targeted you. With a list and no reasons. Yeah, your apologies where overreacting, and that’s suspicious. Right now I'm directly targeting you, and the apologetic tone is gone. On January 29 2011 09:39 CubEdIn wrote: You misunderstand. I meant that I would kill someone if I had complete power over one kill. If I were mayor, I'd aim for SK/Mafia. If I were SK I'd aim for other SK/Mafia. So yeah. It doesn't matter what I was (vig would work as well), but if I had a kill of my own, it would be that person. I have, as you'd call it, a hunch. A pretty good one too, but there's no REAL evidence for me to back it up with. If I were to make a case against him, it would be weak. If I were to die the night after I made the case, you guys wouldn't have enough reason to kill said person. So why rush into "analysis" and risk getting killed, when I could make a good case against said person during the next day or two days from now? Why do you think a SK would hit mafia? This early in the game they will be aiming for blues. And we should have some vigis around. If you feel someone should die, just suggest it to them and they can decide. You are being really wishy washy regarding 3 named persons, and extremely secretive about this person you would definitely kill. I'll hold you to this. On January 29 2011 09:39 CubEdIn wrote: This may be a bit hard for you to comprehend, since you said I was "going on" about BGs on day one. But BGs are a crucial part of this game. Here's why: a) Say town lynches a BG. Night can very well be a dead mayor (since other BG may be mafia). We lose census AND we lose the power to see if initial lynch was right. We lynch BG, we have... 1 red for mayor+surprise target. b) Say both BGs are scum Town will go all game in fear of lynching them, and they will run amok. So yeah. If a bg dies, then the next night will tell us A LOT, since I'm pretty sure that if Kav is town, then mafia will go for him. Either by killing other bg, or by 'going around' if they're red. IMO, any BG death will give us useful information, but will most likely also lead us to eventually losing the game because of lack of information about anything. Speculating in BG’s was fine to a certain degree. But at some point it becomes just a mechanic that takes up pages without bringing us closer to scum. Mafia loves these neutral questions that makes them look like they are active and contributing. On January 29 2011 09:39 CubEdIn wrote: That is true, but I have expressed my thoughts on the lynch targets, and I have expressed opinions about the rest of the game. The only thing I didn't speak about was "post analysis", simply because I'm not good at it. I did talk about behavior analysis, mainly how people played games before this. It's the best I can do at the moment, that and focusing on clues. If you think that's good enough reason to lynch me, then by all means, vote for me. Boohoo someone is questioning me. I’m not going to push for your lynch when there is no clues pointing towards you. | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
On January 29 2011 10:19 Barundar wrote: Why do you think a SK would hit mafia? This early in the game they will be aiming for blues. I don't know, haven't been SK, but I guess it makes sense to go for town because mafia can't kill them. Though, actually, in the beginning it's ok to dim the numbers of mafia as well for some reasons: 1. There will be less mafia -> clues will be pointing more or less to same people -> less people focusing on the SK 2. Team of players will be more likely to convince town to lynch SK, especially if they targeted SK and SK didn't die => They can basically "role-check" you. In fact, it may be more ok to go for mafia in the beginning and drop their numbers to 3 or so, and then focus on town. But I haven't given it too much thought until now. And we should have some vigis around. If you feel someone should die, just suggest it to them and they can decide. You are being really wishy washy regarding 3 named persons, and extremely secretive about this person you would definitely kill. I'll hold you to this. I know what you mean, but I need a bit more time. I promise that you'll understand why if I get to post my analysis. And don't worry about it, I'll post it even if said person dies. However (and this is pointed both to you and gmarshall), I don't understand why you would vote for someone who's gonna get mod-killed anyway. I don't like lurkers either, but that seems like a safe vote that won't attract attention. I get that we should vote for who we feel is right, but your vote is useless unless he posts at the last second, in which case, sure, we lynch him next night. This seems scummier than most of the things that have been held against players so far. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
On January 29 2011 10:28 Coagulation wrote: ##unvote Nemesis ##Vote zerroth What the fuck Coag? You can't act like you don't know this is extremely incriminating. So either you're: a) A really bad mafia player with Nemesis in their team b) A townie that feels like they don't wanna play anymore. You may do dumb things sometimes but I don't think you're dumb enough to be in case a). Which means that you're playing anti-town, which should be against the rules. Switching vote to someone who's gonna get mod-killed is just dumb, at least vote for yourself to show you're abstaining. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
I didn't notice you had 4 votes against you, thought it was less. Then vote for some other player that's not about to get mod-killed. -__- | ||
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Kavdragon
United States1251 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On January 29 2011 11:00 Kavdragon wrote: Wait. The night post is going to be two hours late, does this mean that we have two more hours on this lynch? I don't think so. 6 modkills is disgusting :/ | ||
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ilovejonn
Canada2548 Posts
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
i would rather abstain. | ||
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