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Hmm... Kita, I'm pretty convinced that BC is right.
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Everyone has about 4 hours to send in Night Actions
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I was roleblocked last night. I tried to rolecheck BC, as I am pretty sure either he or pig has CPR.
So it's very clear from my perspective that the following are mafia.
Deconduo
HaploPaithan
BC
PigSquirrel
This seems pretty clear now. Though I am not sure Haplo actually has parity, I don't even believe he knows how it functions. Look.
On January 19 2011 00:43 HaploPaithan wrote:
Ok, I've been waiting to claim in hopes that Eiii was a scum and would lie about it. I did pick parity cop.
N1 i viewed Bumatlarge, N2 I viewed JimboSilvers. I got the result same.
@JumboShivers
The reason I picked up Parity Cop over Eiii even though Eiii claimed he was going to pick it is because I didn't want the mafia to kill the parity cop. Outright claiming you are going to pick Parity Cop makes you a pretty good target. If Eiii were going to die, I didn't want us to lose Parity Cop.
"I got the result same?" I'd like for him to clarify. But he should have it. So!
Decon = CC
Haplo = parity (have to check this, there might be some more slight possiblities, but that would involve kita being CPR rather then vig, would be retarded for mafia to take things like parity/mason instead of extra KP)
BC = PoD/CPR
Pig = PoD/CPR
Assuming kita gets shot, he needs to hit either of those two so we can lynch the other. BC has conveniently assumed PoD is pig, but that is completely interchangeable in every scenario.
I bet every shred of my dignity that BC has PoD, and pig has CPR. I get shot this night, I pop town. BC then proceeds to get lynched, and mafia has another night of CPR. This is the obvious situation at hand.
I guess I have to really defend my integrity here? BC has constantly downplayed me for my 'lack of contribution' which I find ABSURD. He hasn't pointed out anyone that someone hasn't already. Guess why deonduo is CONFIRMED NON-TOWNIE?
ME MOTHER FUCKERS.
On January 13 2011 21:39 bumatlarge wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 13 2011 17:06 JimboSilvers wrote:Wow what the hell do you think you pansies are doing here. I leave, and everyone decides on the brilliant idea of lynching LayOffRage, who claimed vanilla who picked traitor. He claimed to have failed at picking traitor, which no scum in his right mind would do. His lynch was pretty much opposed by nobody, and nobody stepped up to defend him. So he's obviously not scum, and he claimed traitor is above him. Yet you guys decided to lynch him for no other reason than because you thought he was lying. Or you were afraid of lynching a witch. Brilliant. Its 17 players left and 4 people died last night. If one hit was a JOAT hit, then its another 4 hits tonight + 1 lynch = 12 players left. There are 5 are mafia, 6 if mafia recruited the traitor, which would make it game. If it wasn't a JOAT and there's 2 SKs, then its 5 hits tonight which is even worse. So this is a potential lylo. Even if we correctly lynch today, its 4 mafia left and we have few leads. So priorities for right now are that we need to lynch red, and we need to get rid of questionable KP sources. deconduo is supposedly the CPR doctor. But besides all the attention he gets from his role, he is nothing but a useless, space wasting, unreliable heap of uselessness. In his first few posts, deconduo asks a few questions and puts out a couple one liners about LSB's plan. He doesn't offer anything conclusive and doesn't try to put forward any new ideas. A little later on, he quotes Fishball and says: Show nested quote +On January 08 2011 06:13 deconduo wrote:
Chaos and confusion only benefits mafia. Doesn't offer any more opinions and doesn't follow up on this comment. He just comes in, pops in a negative statement, and disappears from the thread for an entire day. What is his point? He certainly isn't invested in his opinions. The next day, he comes back, picks a "random" number, and gets first pick. Other than that, he contributes nothing. Has a panic "crisis" where he claims he didn't get the role he picked. All this time its just one liners. What is he trying to do? Make it look like he is active or something? His vote post is interesting. He lays out the three candidates, lists general reasons to vote for them, but is very wishy-washy and doesn't take a real stand, meandering his way around lynch. He just picks one but doesn't seem convinced about who he's voting for. Right after that, he asks "On a last note, do you guys want me to zap someone tonight, and who do you want me to zap? Don't forget mafia can manipulate the 'zap vote' just as easily as they can manipulate a lynch." That last sentence is just terrible. Why does he need to mention this statement? It seems like he is just giving himself an out when a townie dies. Next, he pops out of nowhere to accuse Amber[LighT] of OMGUS voting for aidnai. Yet he doesn't like the way aidnai is playing either. So what is it? deconduo isn't putting any thoughts into his post. He's pointing fingers without pointing fingers. In his next useless post, he says: Show nested quote +There has been a few names thrown about the place, but theres no unanimous candidate. Considering that its likely mafia have the CC role, I've been looking at people near the end of the list (for the less powerful roles). While the best suspects are at the top, I don't want to risk losing our JOAT/Vig/BB and giving mafia the role. Which best suspects? Why didn't you mention these earlier? Why were you so wishy washy in your vote post yet suddenly say that the "best suspects" are at the top? And following this, his next post says he'll random who to hit between Kenpachi, Jackal58, and Fishball. This is suspicious. He doesn't want to be accountable for his choice. And perhaps he even wants to protect one of his mafia buddies by giving a list and picking one at "random". deconduo's posts bring up more questions than answers. First he is clearly lurkiing the thread. He tries to spread doubt through the town, and uses questionable methods to determine who to zap. He doesn't take responsibility for his actions, and just seems to be flailing around looking for a consensus. A consensus that would allow him to blame his missteps on the town as a whole. As a bonus, deconduo has night KP. Getting rid of that will give us a bit more time and hopefully give us at least another day to find another red. ##Vote Deconduo I love this guy, I wish I could have told him to pick mason  I've got an idea. The top three can prove themselves. One is a CC, right? They have DayVig then (?Assuming first kill is the first passed?). All they need to do is type: Kill: bumatlarge(Yay, I'm not DayVig!) Or someone else. That way we can know for certain who is what. So deconduo, kitaman and kenpachi, proceed to do this ASAP. If you are not DayVig, it will do nothing. Also, if Dayvig is scum, I'd advise him to use it on someone they consider SK, as I believe it will kill them. There are supposedly 2, as we don't even know if a JOAT is in play, let alone used their ability. ##Vote deconduo
WHY, on this lovely green planet would I EVER point this out? Of course he was already getting shit, and likely someone would have pointed this out, but I did keep my vote on him the rest of the day. He nearly got lynched (I did say I would have taken my vote off, but the dry wall wasnt going to do itself) when I didn't need to keep the vote there and buy mafia another day with a no lynch (which they got anyway, because certain individuals were splitting the vote on decon and fish).
What was BC doing? Paving the way for a mafia victory. He really did a great job getting LSB out there and having deconduo kill him (no sarcasm, really nice catch BC  ). Speaking of that, let's see this again...
On January 15 2011 06:22 deconduo wrote:All the opinions I could find: BloodyC0bbler : LSB Amber[LighT]: Fishball kitaman27: Fishball Fishball : LSB HaploPaithan : (LSB I think?) LSB : Fishball deconduo : BC aidnai : BC?
Show nested quote +On January 14 2011 10:50 aidnai wrote:cubed says shoot cubed aidnai says shoot BC bumatlarge says shoot LSB or BC Amber[light] says shoot BC Pigsquirrel says shoot LSB Kenpachi loosely implies shoot BC... i'll just quote him On January 14 2011 09:31 Kenpachi wrote:
##vote abstain
eh.. BC wagon isnt going to happen today so no lynch for me. fishball says meh Not enough people to be decisive. I don't like it, but this will have to wait until morning. Less time to pick a lynch, sigh.
Fishball: 3 BC: 3-4 LSB: 4-5 I think
Now I'm counting these out again. That's what decon said he thought it came to...
LSB: 5
BC: 5-6
FB: 3
Now let me guess, both BC and FB were not going to get shot no matter how those votes went? Seems pretty obvious now in hindsight.
And also, looking back on the 40-45 pages, haplo, deconduo and pig all call me town and call BC mafia. Take that as you will, but as I see it, maybe this plan was really forming after only zeks died night 2. That's pretty awesome. I can post them if people would like.
And I'm not going to use real life as an excuse. There was time when I could have gotten on and did some soul-searching in this thread, but I decided not to. I started writing my visit to Eiii, but it appears more pressing matters are at hand. I'm assuming Amber RB'd me by the way, which is unfortunate, because then I could point out for certain whether Pig or BC is CPR.
Good luck kita, it's your decision DONT LET THAT BC DUDE TELL YOU WHAT TO DO. FIGHT THE POWER.
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kitaman27
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@SK I doubt I have to explain it to you, but it is in your best interest to hit a scum. The PoD was used in an attempt to gain control of the lynch. You are the scum's number one lynch target, while the town is hunting for the cpr doctor and remaining mafia.
I will be not hitting deconduo tonight. If you want to prevent hit overlap, I suggest he be your target.
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On January 20 2011 08:01 kitaman27 wrote:
@SK I doubt I have to explain it to you, but it is in your best interest to hit a scum. The PoD was used in an attempt to gain control of the lynch. You are the scum's number one lynch target, while the town is hunting for the cpr doctor and remaining mafia.
I will be not hitting deconduo tonight. If you want to prevent hit overlap, I suggest he be your target.
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SK shoot bum
Kita shoot Halpo.
For fucks sake, no overlap kills, cpr/parity die.
I am writing up why bum's post is full of shit right now, but seriously kita, if you want to win this game just follow my advice this one time.
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Now this is why I love mafia XD!
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On January 20 2011 07:47 bumatlarge wrote:I was roleblocked last night. I tried to rolecheck BC, as I am pretty sure either he or pig has CPR. So it's very clear from my perspective that the following are mafia. Deconduo HaploPaithan BC PigSquirrel This seems pretty clear now. Though I am not sure Haplo actually has parity, I don't even believe he knows how it functions. Look. Show nested quote +On January 19 2011 00:43 HaploPaithan wrote:
Ok, I've been waiting to claim in hopes that Eiii was a scum and would lie about it. I did pick parity cop.
N1 i viewed Bumatlarge, N2 I viewed JimboSilvers. I got the result same.
@JumboShivers
The reason I picked up Parity Cop over Eiii even though Eiii claimed he was going to pick it is because I didn't want the mafia to kill the parity cop. Outright claiming you are going to pick Parity Cop makes you a pretty good target. If Eiii were going to die, I didn't want us to lose Parity Cop.
"I got the result same?" I'd like for him to clarify. But he should have it. So! Decon = CC Haplo = parity (have to check this, there might be some more slight possiblities, but that would involve kita being CPR rather then vig, would be retarded for mafia to take things like parity/mason instead of extra KP) BC = PoD/CPR Pig = PoD/CPR Assuming kita gets shot, he needs to hit either of those two so we can lynch the other. BC has conveniently assumed PoD is pig, but that is completely interchangeable in every scenario. I bet every shred of my dignity that BC has PoD, and pig has CPR. I get shot this night, I pop town. BC then proceeds to get lynched, and mafia has another night of CPR. This is the obvious situation at hand. I guess I have to really defend my integrity here? BC has constantly downplayed me for my 'lack of contribution' which I find ABSURD. He hasn't pointed out anyone that someone hasn't already. Guess why deonduo is CONFIRMED NON-TOWNIE? ME MOTHER FUCKERS. Show nested quote +On January 13 2011 21:39 bumatlarge wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 13 2011 17:06 JimboSilvers wrote:Wow what the hell do you think you pansies are doing here. I leave, and everyone decides on the brilliant idea of lynching LayOffRage, who claimed vanilla who picked traitor. He claimed to have failed at picking traitor, which no scum in his right mind would do. His lynch was pretty much opposed by nobody, and nobody stepped up to defend him. So he's obviously not scum, and he claimed traitor is above him. Yet you guys decided to lynch him for no other reason than because you thought he was lying. Or you were afraid of lynching a witch. Brilliant. Its 17 players left and 4 people died last night. If one hit was a JOAT hit, then its another 4 hits tonight + 1 lynch = 12 players left. There are 5 are mafia, 6 if mafia recruited the traitor, which would make it game. If it wasn't a JOAT and there's 2 SKs, then its 5 hits tonight which is even worse. So this is a potential lylo. Even if we correctly lynch today, its 4 mafia left and we have few leads. So priorities for right now are that we need to lynch red, and we need to get rid of questionable KP sources. deconduo is supposedly the CPR doctor. But besides all the attention he gets from his role, he is nothing but a useless, space wasting, unreliable heap of uselessness. In his first few posts, deconduo asks a few questions and puts out a couple one liners about LSB's plan. He doesn't offer anything conclusive and doesn't try to put forward any new ideas. A little later on, he quotes Fishball and says: Show nested quote +On January 08 2011 06:13 deconduo wrote:
Chaos and confusion only benefits mafia. Doesn't offer any more opinions and doesn't follow up on this comment. He just comes in, pops in a negative statement, and disappears from the thread for an entire day. What is his point? He certainly isn't invested in his opinions. The next day, he comes back, picks a "random" number, and gets first pick. Other than that, he contributes nothing. Has a panic "crisis" where he claims he didn't get the role he picked. All this time its just one liners. What is he trying to do? Make it look like he is active or something? His vote post is interesting. He lays out the three candidates, lists general reasons to vote for them, but is very wishy-washy and doesn't take a real stand, meandering his way around lynch. He just picks one but doesn't seem convinced about who he's voting for. Right after that, he asks "On a last note, do you guys want me to zap someone tonight, and who do you want me to zap? Don't forget mafia can manipulate the 'zap vote' just as easily as they can manipulate a lynch." That last sentence is just terrible. Why does he need to mention this statement? It seems like he is just giving himself an out when a townie dies. Next, he pops out of nowhere to accuse Amber[LighT] of OMGUS voting for aidnai. Yet he doesn't like the way aidnai is playing either. So what is it? deconduo isn't putting any thoughts into his post. He's pointing fingers without pointing fingers. In his next useless post, he says: Show nested quote +There has been a few names thrown about the place, but theres no unanimous candidate. Considering that its likely mafia have the CC role, I've been looking at people near the end of the list (for the less powerful roles). While the best suspects are at the top, I don't want to risk losing our JOAT/Vig/BB and giving mafia the role. Which best suspects? Why didn't you mention these earlier? Why were you so wishy washy in your vote post yet suddenly say that the "best suspects" are at the top? And following this, his next post says he'll random who to hit between Kenpachi, Jackal58, and Fishball. This is suspicious. He doesn't want to be accountable for his choice. And perhaps he even wants to protect one of his mafia buddies by giving a list and picking one at "random". deconduo's posts bring up more questions than answers. First he is clearly lurkiing the thread. He tries to spread doubt through the town, and uses questionable methods to determine who to zap. He doesn't take responsibility for his actions, and just seems to be flailing around looking for a consensus. A consensus that would allow him to blame his missteps on the town as a whole. As a bonus, deconduo has night KP. Getting rid of that will give us a bit more time and hopefully give us at least another day to find another red. ##Vote Deconduo I love this guy, I wish I could have told him to pick mason I've got an idea. The top three can prove themselves. One is a CC, right? They have DayVig then (?Assuming first kill is the first passed?). All they need to do is type: Kill: bumatlarge(Yay, I'm not DayVig!) Or someone else. That way we can know for certain who is what. So deconduo, kitaman and kenpachi, proceed to do this ASAP. If you are not DayVig, it will do nothing. Also, if Dayvig is scum, I'd advise him to use it on someone they consider SK, as I believe it will kill them. There are supposedly 2, as we don't even know if a JOAT is in play, let alone used their ability. ##Vote deconduo WHY, on this lovely green planet would I EVER point this out? Of course he was already getting shit, and likely someone would have pointed this out, but I did keep my vote on him the rest of the day. He nearly got lynched (I did say I would have taken my vote off, but the dry wall wasnt going to do itself) when I didn't need to keep the vote there and buy mafia another day with a no lynch (which they got anyway, because certain individuals were splitting the vote on decon and fish). What was BC doing? Paving the way for a mafia victory. He really did a great job getting LSB out there and having deconduo kill him (no sarcasm, really nice catch BC ). Speaking of that, let's see this again... Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 06:22 deconduo wrote:All the opinions I could find: BloodyC0bbler : LSB Amber[LighT]: Fishballkitaman27: Fishball Fishball : LSB HaploPaithan : (LSB I think?) LSB : Fishball deconduo : BC aidnai : BC?
On January 14 2011 10:50 aidnai wrote:cubed says shoot cubed aidnai says shoot BCbumatlarge says shoot LSB or BC Amber[light] says shoot BCPigsquirrel says shoot LSB Kenpachi loosely implies shoot BC... i'll just quote him On January 14 2011 09:31 Kenpachi wrote:
##vote abstain
eh.. BC wagon isnt going to happen today so no lynch for me. fishball says meh Not enough people to be decisive. I don't like it, but this will have to wait until morning. Less time to pick a lynch, sigh.
Fishball: 3 BC: 3-4 LSB: 4-5 I think Now I'm counting these out again. That's what decon said he thought it came to... LSB: 5 BC: 5-6 FB: 3 Now let me guess, both BC and FB were not going to get shot no matter how those votes went? Seems pretty obvious now in hindsight. And also, looking back on the 40-45 pages, haplo, deconduo and pig all call me town and call BC mafia. Take that as you will, but as I see it, maybe this plan was really forming after only zeks died night 2. That's pretty awesome. I can post them if people would like. And I'm not going to use real life as an excuse. There was time when I could have gotten on and did some soul-searching in this thread, but I decided not to. I started writing my visit to Eiii, but it appears more pressing matters are at hand. I'm assuming Amber RB'd me by the way, which is unfortunate, because then I could point out for certain whether Pig or BC is CPR. Good luck kita, it's your decision DONT LET THAT BC DUDE TELL YOU WHAT TO DO. FIGHT THE POWER.
My only response to you is going to be bolding your miscount where you directly lie. With that your fate as lying mafia gets sealed. Honestly, do you guys not read your own posts?
I bolded the votes above where Bum counts aidnai's vote twice, misrepresents that amber voted both for myself and fishball.
making the counts actually
Fishball: 2-3
BC: 3 - 5
LSB: 4 - 5.
LSB is still ahead overall in numbers as at a minimum more people wanted him dead.
Now, for the rest who are interested in massive lies by him, read his last bit where he is "conveniently" roleblocked when the plan for amber was to block halpo and kita shoot bum. Amber didn't disagree with this plan he merely added that cube should pick pig over decon due to pigs role.
This seems to me at least he was on board with it, as rather than fix it, he would have criticized it.
Meaning if he followed the plan, bum again lies.
Bum has been caught lying all game, he is lying now. Halpo promised to be back hours ago with a post to defend himself, and no show, and here we have bum trying to bus his entire team. This to me means he is trying his best to save his own ass. Which red at this point has to survive the longest for the mafia to win? the cpr doctor. He just gave himself up guys, do the right thing.
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BUM BUM BAAAAAAA
-tman
Along the nside border of Philedelphia, a child spawned and grew up. He spent a majority of his life on the public entertainment facility. He led a somber life that one might consider chill. He was playing basketball when a few evil-looking fellows proceeded to perform some misdemeanors. Bum skirmished with said thugs and his mother fret, so he vacated the premises to Eiii's crib.
Bum was gonna check this out right quick. In and out. He saw the Vowel abuser's abode unobtrusively open for altercations. He saw a mail carrier walking up the steps, so Bum snuck up behind him and grabbed a letter and waited below the stairs, while the postman was none-the-wiser. Mr. Psotman, being a jovial fellow, rang the bell, and the door started to open.
"Good evening sir! I thought I'd hand you your mail...."
Bum peaked up and saw the mailman was frozen with that grin wiped off his face.
"Here, take your mail."
Before that nut decided he would go postal, Bum ran up the stairs.
"Oh, you dropped a letter..."
Bum can't really explain what happened, and neither can I. You know the phrase 'dead-pan'? Well Eiii was more of a murdered-pot. There was literally no emotion in that face. In fact, you couldn't stare directly at it, because your stare would glance off it on to something else, like some subconcious reaction that feared you would get sucked into the abyss of that man's face.
"Uh, your Eiii?"
"Yes, my name is Eiii."
"Well uh here is a letter."
The mailman was already halfway down the block. Eiii didn't answer. Maybe he fell asleep. Bum couldn't tell. He just stared at other stuff, everything but Eiii. Suddenly,
"Goodbye."
And Eiii shut the door. Bum still had the letter in his hand, so he just dropped it on the mat. Bum peaked into the window, and saw that Godforsaken thing sitting on a chair watching TV. The TV was off of course. He was just sitting there being useless. Existing. It seemed pretty clear to Bum that this guy did not have a role. He'd a make great SK though. Then Bum drove past BC's house and knocked over his mailbox.
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On January 17 2011 07:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 07:27 kitaman27 wrote:On January 17 2011 07:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 17 2011 07:06 Kenpachi wrote:On January 17 2011 06:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 17 2011 06:47 Kenpachi wrote:On January 17 2011 06:44 Fishball wrote:On January 17 2011 06:41 Kenpachi wrote:
your missing that Kita was hit by someone. Read my post above yours Ok, Kita was hit. So he is confirmed. ??? Mafia hit was on Kita or Jimbo. JOAT/CPR/Unkown SK was on Zeks. You were hit by Deconduo. Kita hit BC. Now, This doesnt make much sense and the only possibilities are a 2nd SK on Zeks and Mafia with a JOAT/CPR or SK with 2 KP. It makes alot of sense if the remaining SK isn't decon. SK's hit goes through Bulletproof. We know that a SK hit Zeks or Kita because Jimbo is most likely BP I mean the fact there were 5 "hits" make sense if decon isn't the sk. This is kinda unrelated, but it was something I never got a chance to address BC. You repeatedly state that if Fishball is the traitor he has to provide reds for us to stay alive. 1) Why would the traitor in his situation ever consider hunting for a red? 2) What reds has he found? I will speak from experience. When I was Traitor back when the role was first introduced to TL, I knew If i got intouch with the mafia I could help them, except I also had to be active enough and not appear as scum. To this regards I analyzed. Pointing out people you think are "red" but not pushing them to a lynch is a good sign for reds to spot you and make contact. Fishball has "analyzed" multiple people this game but never pushed for a lynch. If you believe he is traitor these would be the signs you are looking for, subtle clues in thread to reveal who he is. With a list of 5-6 players it woudl take mafia forever to find him on their own without luck. Him giving signs (finding a few of them, or giving off tell tale signs) would be what they need. The fatal mistake in your thinking is that just because hes traitor (in a no pm game no less) that he will just sit back and wait for them to find him, he has to meet them halfway, or find them. IF fishball is the traitor, I can almost guarentee you that decon is mafia by association. I say this because if an SK is going to shoot who everyone thinks the traitor is, mafia wouldn't waste their med on the cause as any mafia action would auto recruit him, (would take two meds or fishball having bulletproof/vet to live). As such, if fish is traitor, it would make more sense for decon to be red, claim he is going to hit him, mafia any powerrole that isnt kp targets fish and recruits him. They now lie about the hit.
This leaves mafia two kp to use (keep in mind if decon is red, cpr is going to be 100% in mafia hands). Mafia takes a shot at kita hoping to take out a town kp role, and shoots jimbo for being smart, the second sk shoots zeks as it benefits him completely (zeks claimed mason).That situation seems the most plausible to me. IT also means that if the situation I just outlined is correct that kita/amber/kenpachi/cube are all instantly confirmed as town.
You can say you proved decon was anti town bum, but my post proved he was mafia. However, your post merely played off of this anyway
On January 13 2011 17:06 JimboSilvers wrote:Wow what the hell do you think you pansies are doing here. I leave, and everyone decides on the brilliant idea of lynching LayOffRage, who claimed vanilla who picked traitor. He claimed to have failed at picking traitor, which no scum in his right mind would do. His lynch was pretty much opposed by nobody, and nobody stepped up to defend him. So he's obviously not scum, and he claimed traitor is above him. Yet you guys decided to lynch him for no other reason than because you thought he was lying. Or you were afraid of lynching a witch. Brilliant. Its 17 players left and 4 people died last night. If one hit was a JOAT hit, then its another 4 hits tonight + 1 lynch = 12 players left. There are 5 are mafia, 6 if mafia recruited the traitor, which would make it game. If it wasn't a JOAT and there's 2 SKs, then its 5 hits tonight which is even worse. So this is a potential lylo. Even if we correctly lynch today, its 4 mafia left and we have few leads. So priorities for right now are that we need to lynch red, and we need to get rid of questionable KP sources. deconduo is supposedly the CPR doctor. But besides all the attention he gets from his role, he is nothing but a useless, space wasting, unreliable heap of uselessness. In his first few posts, deconduo asks a few questions and puts out a couple one liners about LSB's plan. He doesn't offer anything conclusive and doesn't try to put forward any new ideas. A little later on, he quotes Fishball and says: Show nested quote +On January 08 2011 06:13 deconduo wrote:
Chaos and confusion only benefits mafia. Doesn't offer any more opinions and doesn't follow up on this comment. He just comes in, pops in a negative statement, and disappears from the thread for an entire day. What is his point? He certainly isn't invested in his opinions. The next day, he comes back, picks a "random" number, and gets first pick. Other than that, he contributes nothing. Has a panic "crisis" where he claims he didn't get the role he picked. All this time its just one liners. What is he trying to do? Make it look like he is active or something? His vote post is interesting. He lays out the three candidates, lists general reasons to vote for them, but is very wishy-washy and doesn't take a real stand, meandering his way around lynch. He just picks one but doesn't seem convinced about who he's voting for. Right after that, he asks "On a last note, do you guys want me to zap someone tonight, and who do you want me to zap? Don't forget mafia can manipulate the 'zap vote' just as easily as they can manipulate a lynch." That last sentence is just terrible. Why does he need to mention this statement? It seems like he is just giving himself an out when a townie dies. Next, he pops out of nowhere to accuse Amber[LighT] of OMGUS voting for aidnai. Yet he doesn't like the way aidnai is playing either. So what is it? deconduo isn't putting any thoughts into his post. He's pointing fingers without pointing fingers. In his next useless post, he says: Show nested quote +There has been a few names thrown about the place, but theres no unanimous candidate. Considering that its likely mafia have the CC role, I've been looking at people near the end of the list (for the less powerful roles). While the best suspects are at the top, I don't want to risk losing our JOAT/Vig/BB and giving mafia the role. Which best suspects? Why didn't you mention these earlier? Why were you so wishy washy in your vote post yet suddenly say that the "best suspects" are at the top? And following this, his next post says he'll random who to hit between Kenpachi, Jackal58, and Fishball. This is suspicious. He doesn't want to be accountable for his choice. And perhaps he even wants to protect one of his mafia buddies by giving a list and picking one at "random". deconduo's posts bring up more questions than answers. First he is clearly lurkiing the thread. He tries to spread doubt through the town, and uses questionable methods to determine who to zap. He doesn't take responsibility for his actions, and just seems to be flailing around looking for a consensus. A consensus that would allow him to blame his missteps on the town as a whole. As a bonus, deconduo has night KP. Getting rid of that will give us a bit more time and hopefully give us at least another day to find another red. ##Vote Deconduo
Guess what, jimbo posted first, and in that post he analyzed decon and found him anti town. Guess what your post did, helped narrow down who had the CC, not an antitown your post helped find our CC. Good job though bum. Keep in mind that you can try your best to take credit for things, but anyone who wants to read can see decon was getting votes, lsb pinned him on CC, and had detailed analysis on him before you even appeared.
Stop lying and die already.
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On January 20 2011 08:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2011 07:47 bumatlarge wrote:I was roleblocked last night. I tried to rolecheck BC, as I am pretty sure either he or pig has CPR. So it's very clear from my perspective that the following are mafia. Deconduo HaploPaithan BC PigSquirrel This seems pretty clear now. Though I am not sure Haplo actually has parity, I don't even believe he knows how it functions. Look. On January 19 2011 00:43 HaploPaithan wrote:
Ok, I've been waiting to claim in hopes that Eiii was a scum and would lie about it. I did pick parity cop.
N1 i viewed Bumatlarge, N2 I viewed JimboSilvers. I got the result same.
@JumboShivers
The reason I picked up Parity Cop over Eiii even though Eiii claimed he was going to pick it is because I didn't want the mafia to kill the parity cop. Outright claiming you are going to pick Parity Cop makes you a pretty good target. If Eiii were going to die, I didn't want us to lose Parity Cop.
"I got the result same?" I'd like for him to clarify. But he should have it. So! Decon = CC Haplo = parity (have to check this, there might be some more slight possiblities, but that would involve kita being CPR rather then vig, would be retarded for mafia to take things like parity/mason instead of extra KP) BC = PoD/CPR Pig = PoD/CPR Assuming kita gets shot, he needs to hit either of those two so we can lynch the other. BC has conveniently assumed PoD is pig, but that is completely interchangeable in every scenario. I bet every shred of my dignity that BC has PoD, and pig has CPR. I get shot this night, I pop town. BC then proceeds to get lynched, and mafia has another night of CPR. This is the obvious situation at hand. I guess I have to really defend my integrity here? BC has constantly downplayed me for my 'lack of contribution' which I find ABSURD. He hasn't pointed out anyone that someone hasn't already. Guess why deonduo is CONFIRMED NON-TOWNIE? ME MOTHER FUCKERS. On January 13 2011 21:39 bumatlarge wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 13 2011 17:06 JimboSilvers wrote:Wow what the hell do you think you pansies are doing here. I leave, and everyone decides on the brilliant idea of lynching LayOffRage, who claimed vanilla who picked traitor. He claimed to have failed at picking traitor, which no scum in his right mind would do. His lynch was pretty much opposed by nobody, and nobody stepped up to defend him. So he's obviously not scum, and he claimed traitor is above him. Yet you guys decided to lynch him for no other reason than because you thought he was lying. Or you were afraid of lynching a witch. Brilliant. Its 17 players left and 4 people died last night. If one hit was a JOAT hit, then its another 4 hits tonight + 1 lynch = 12 players left. There are 5 are mafia, 6 if mafia recruited the traitor, which would make it game. If it wasn't a JOAT and there's 2 SKs, then its 5 hits tonight which is even worse. So this is a potential lylo. Even if we correctly lynch today, its 4 mafia left and we have few leads. So priorities for right now are that we need to lynch red, and we need to get rid of questionable KP sources. deconduo is supposedly the CPR doctor. But besides all the attention he gets from his role, he is nothing but a useless, space wasting, unreliable heap of uselessness. In his first few posts, deconduo asks a few questions and puts out a couple one liners about LSB's plan. He doesn't offer anything conclusive and doesn't try to put forward any new ideas. A little later on, he quotes Fishball and says: Show nested quote +On January 08 2011 06:13 deconduo wrote:
Chaos and confusion only benefits mafia. Doesn't offer any more opinions and doesn't follow up on this comment. He just comes in, pops in a negative statement, and disappears from the thread for an entire day. What is his point? He certainly isn't invested in his opinions. The next day, he comes back, picks a "random" number, and gets first pick. Other than that, he contributes nothing. Has a panic "crisis" where he claims he didn't get the role he picked. All this time its just one liners. What is he trying to do? Make it look like he is active or something? His vote post is interesting. He lays out the three candidates, lists general reasons to vote for them, but is very wishy-washy and doesn't take a real stand, meandering his way around lynch. He just picks one but doesn't seem convinced about who he's voting for. Right after that, he asks "On a last note, do you guys want me to zap someone tonight, and who do you want me to zap? Don't forget mafia can manipulate the 'zap vote' just as easily as they can manipulate a lynch." That last sentence is just terrible. Why does he need to mention this statement? It seems like he is just giving himself an out when a townie dies. Next, he pops out of nowhere to accuse Amber[LighT] of OMGUS voting for aidnai. Yet he doesn't like the way aidnai is playing either. So what is it? deconduo isn't putting any thoughts into his post. He's pointing fingers without pointing fingers. In his next useless post, he says: Show nested quote +There has been a few names thrown about the place, but theres no unanimous candidate. Considering that its likely mafia have the CC role, I've been looking at people near the end of the list (for the less powerful roles). While the best suspects are at the top, I don't want to risk losing our JOAT/Vig/BB and giving mafia the role. Which best suspects? Why didn't you mention these earlier? Why were you so wishy washy in your vote post yet suddenly say that the "best suspects" are at the top? And following this, his next post says he'll random who to hit between Kenpachi, Jackal58, and Fishball. This is suspicious. He doesn't want to be accountable for his choice. And perhaps he even wants to protect one of his mafia buddies by giving a list and picking one at "random". deconduo's posts bring up more questions than answers. First he is clearly lurkiing the thread. He tries to spread doubt through the town, and uses questionable methods to determine who to zap. He doesn't take responsibility for his actions, and just seems to be flailing around looking for a consensus. A consensus that would allow him to blame his missteps on the town as a whole. As a bonus, deconduo has night KP. Getting rid of that will give us a bit more time and hopefully give us at least another day to find another red. ##Vote Deconduo I love this guy, I wish I could have told him to pick mason I've got an idea. The top three can prove themselves. One is a CC, right? They have DayVig then (?Assuming first kill is the first passed?). All they need to do is type: Kill: bumatlarge(Yay, I'm not DayVig!) Or someone else. That way we can know for certain who is what. So deconduo, kitaman and kenpachi, proceed to do this ASAP. If you are not DayVig, it will do nothing. Also, if Dayvig is scum, I'd advise him to use it on someone they consider SK, as I believe it will kill them. There are supposedly 2, as we don't even know if a JOAT is in play, let alone used their ability. ##Vote deconduo WHY, on this lovely green planet would I EVER point this out? Of course he was already getting shit, and likely someone would have pointed this out, but I did keep my vote on him the rest of the day. He nearly got lynched (I did say I would have taken my vote off, but the dry wall wasnt going to do itself) when I didn't need to keep the vote there and buy mafia another day with a no lynch (which they got anyway, because certain individuals were splitting the vote on decon and fish). What was BC doing? Paving the way for a mafia victory. He really did a great job getting LSB out there and having deconduo kill him (no sarcasm, really nice catch BC ). Speaking of that, let's see this again... On January 15 2011 06:22 deconduo wrote:All the opinions I could find: BloodyC0bbler : LSB Amber[LighT]: Fishballkitaman27: Fishball Fishball : LSB HaploPaithan : (LSB I think?) LSB : Fishball deconduo : BC aidnai : BC?
On January 14 2011 10:50 aidnai wrote:cubed says shoot cubed aidnai says shoot BCbumatlarge says shoot LSB or BC Amber[light] says shoot BCPigsquirrel says shoot LSB Kenpachi loosely implies shoot BC... i'll just quote him On January 14 2011 09:31 Kenpachi wrote:
##vote abstain
eh.. BC wagon isnt going to happen today so no lynch for me. fishball says meh Not enough people to be decisive. I don't like it, but this will have to wait until morning. Less time to pick a lynch, sigh.
Fishball: 3 BC: 3-4 LSB: 4-5 I think Now I'm counting these out again. That's what decon said he thought it came to... LSB: 5 BC: 5-6 FB: 3 Now let me guess, both BC and FB were not going to get shot no matter how those votes went? Seems pretty obvious now in hindsight. And also, looking back on the 40-45 pages, haplo, deconduo and pig all call me town and call BC mafia. Take that as you will, but as I see it, maybe this plan was really forming after only zeks died night 2. That's pretty awesome. I can post them if people would like. And I'm not going to use real life as an excuse. There was time when I could have gotten on and did some soul-searching in this thread, but I decided not to. I started writing my visit to Eiii, but it appears more pressing matters are at hand. I'm assuming Amber RB'd me by the way, which is unfortunate, because then I could point out for certain whether Pig or BC is CPR. Good luck kita, it's your decision DONT LET THAT BC DUDE TELL YOU WHAT TO DO. FIGHT THE POWER. My only response to you is going to be bolding your miscount where you directly lie. With that your fate as lying mafia gets sealed. Honestly, do you guys not read your own posts? I bolded the votes above where Bum counts aidnai's vote twice, misrepresents that amber voted both for myself and fishball. making the counts actually Fishball: 2-3 BC: 3 - 5 LSB: 4 - 5. LSB is still ahead overall in numbers as at a minimum more people wanted him dead. Now, for the rest who are interested in massive lies by him, read his last bit where he is "conveniently" roleblocked when the plan for amber was to block halpo and kita shoot bum. Amber didn't disagree with this plan he merely added that cube should pick pig over decon due to pigs role. This seems to me at least he was on board with it, as rather than fix it, he would have criticized it. Meaning if he followed the plan, bum again lies. Bum has been caught lying all game, he is lying now. Halpo promised to be back hours ago with a post to defend himself, and no show, and here we have bum trying to bus his entire team. This to me means he is trying his best to save his own ass. Which red at this point has to survive the longest for the mafia to win? the cpr doctor. He just gave himself up guys, do the right thing.
Oh, I did count Aidnai twice. My bad. Doesn't matter as you were never going to get hit anyway. Didn't you tell amber to RB me? I was to busy NOT FOLLOWING YOUR PLAN. I got Roleblocked, plain and simple. I never lied intentionally this entire game. I just make mistakes counting abstract votes that never really mattered. I think kita plans on shooting you anyway, which is good. But I'm still convinced Pig is the CPR. The fact that you assume I am the CPR in your theory is so shortsighted, that it's fairly clear what your agenda is.
How is it 100% certain that I am CPR? Because you already know who it is, and for this to work, I have to die first, and then you get lynched, viola CPR is alive. Am I right BC? I mean, you weren't roleblocked this night and it went off? Pig was roleblocked night 2 and only zeks died? Maybe I'm misinterpreting how you positioned everything.
And I said LSB's list was a good guideline I didn't pick RC because LSB told me to. Funny how you make that one of my main flaws. And now you are getting desperate because either:
1) Pig gets hit, and you lost any chance of winning
2) You get hit, and pop PoD and we lynch Pig then
Your room for accusing me of lying and then making my choice to take Role Cop is closed off now
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On January 20 2011 08:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 07:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 17 2011 07:27 kitaman27 wrote:On January 17 2011 07:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 17 2011 07:06 Kenpachi wrote:On January 17 2011 06:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 17 2011 06:47 Kenpachi wrote:On January 17 2011 06:44 Fishball wrote:On January 17 2011 06:41 Kenpachi wrote:
your missing that Kita was hit by someone. Read my post above yours Ok, Kita was hit. So he is confirmed. ??? Mafia hit was on Kita or Jimbo. JOAT/CPR/Unkown SK was on Zeks. You were hit by Deconduo. Kita hit BC. Now, This doesnt make much sense and the only possibilities are a 2nd SK on Zeks and Mafia with a JOAT/CPR or SK with 2 KP. It makes alot of sense if the remaining SK isn't decon. SK's hit goes through Bulletproof. We know that a SK hit Zeks or Kita because Jimbo is most likely BP I mean the fact there were 5 "hits" make sense if decon isn't the sk. This is kinda unrelated, but it was something I never got a chance to address BC. You repeatedly state that if Fishball is the traitor he has to provide reds for us to stay alive. 1) Why would the traitor in his situation ever consider hunting for a red? 2) What reds has he found? I will speak from experience. When I was Traitor back when the role was first introduced to TL, I knew If i got intouch with the mafia I could help them, except I also had to be active enough and not appear as scum. To this regards I analyzed. Pointing out people you think are "red" but not pushing them to a lynch is a good sign for reds to spot you and make contact. Fishball has "analyzed" multiple people this game but never pushed for a lynch. If you believe he is traitor these would be the signs you are looking for, subtle clues in thread to reveal who he is. With a list of 5-6 players it woudl take mafia forever to find him on their own without luck. Him giving signs (finding a few of them, or giving off tell tale signs) would be what they need. The fatal mistake in your thinking is that just because hes traitor (in a no pm game no less) that he will just sit back and wait for them to find him, he has to meet them halfway, or find them. IF fishball is the traitor, I can almost guarentee you that decon is mafia by association. I say this because if an SK is going to shoot who everyone thinks the traitor is, mafia wouldn't waste their med on the cause as any mafia action would auto recruit him, (would take two meds or fishball having bulletproof/vet to live). As such, if fish is traitor, it would make more sense for decon to be red, claim he is going to hit him, mafia any powerrole that isnt kp targets fish and recruits him. They now lie about the hit.
This leaves mafia two kp to use (keep in mind if decon is red, cpr is going to be 100% in mafia hands). Mafia takes a shot at kita hoping to take out a town kp role, and shoots jimbo for being smart, the second sk shoots zeks as it benefits him completely (zeks claimed mason).That situation seems the most plausible to me. IT also means that if the situation I just outlined is correct that kita/amber/kenpachi/cube are all instantly confirmed as town. You can say you proved decon was anti town bum, but my post proved he was mafia. However, your post merely played off of this anyway Show nested quote +On January 13 2011 17:06 JimboSilvers wrote:Wow what the hell do you think you pansies are doing here. I leave, and everyone decides on the brilliant idea of lynching LayOffRage, who claimed vanilla who picked traitor. He claimed to have failed at picking traitor, which no scum in his right mind would do. His lynch was pretty much opposed by nobody, and nobody stepped up to defend him. So he's obviously not scum, and he claimed traitor is above him. Yet you guys decided to lynch him for no other reason than because you thought he was lying. Or you were afraid of lynching a witch. Brilliant. Its 17 players left and 4 people died last night. If one hit was a JOAT hit, then its another 4 hits tonight + 1 lynch = 12 players left. There are 5 are mafia, 6 if mafia recruited the traitor, which would make it game. If it wasn't a JOAT and there's 2 SKs, then its 5 hits tonight which is even worse. So this is a potential lylo. Even if we correctly lynch today, its 4 mafia left and we have few leads. So priorities for right now are that we need to lynch red, and we need to get rid of questionable KP sources. deconduo is supposedly the CPR doctor. But besides all the attention he gets from his role, he is nothing but a useless, space wasting, unreliable heap of uselessness. In his first few posts, deconduo asks a few questions and puts out a couple one liners about LSB's plan. He doesn't offer anything conclusive and doesn't try to put forward any new ideas. A little later on, he quotes Fishball and says: On January 08 2011 06:13 deconduo wrote:
Chaos and confusion only benefits mafia. Doesn't offer any more opinions and doesn't follow up on this comment. He just comes in, pops in a negative statement, and disappears from the thread for an entire day. What is his point? He certainly isn't invested in his opinions. The next day, he comes back, picks a "random" number, and gets first pick. Other than that, he contributes nothing. Has a panic "crisis" where he claims he didn't get the role he picked. All this time its just one liners. What is he trying to do? Make it look like he is active or something? His vote post is interesting. He lays out the three candidates, lists general reasons to vote for them, but is very wishy-washy and doesn't take a real stand, meandering his way around lynch. He just picks one but doesn't seem convinced about who he's voting for. Right after that, he asks "On a last note, do you guys want me to zap someone tonight, and who do you want me to zap? Don't forget mafia can manipulate the 'zap vote' just as easily as they can manipulate a lynch." That last sentence is just terrible. Why does he need to mention this statement? It seems like he is just giving himself an out when a townie dies. Next, he pops out of nowhere to accuse Amber[LighT] of OMGUS voting for aidnai. Yet he doesn't like the way aidnai is playing either. So what is it? deconduo isn't putting any thoughts into his post. He's pointing fingers without pointing fingers. In his next useless post, he says: There has been a few names thrown about the place, but theres no unanimous candidate. Considering that its likely mafia have the CC role, I've been looking at people near the end of the list (for the less powerful roles). While the best suspects are at the top, I don't want to risk losing our JOAT/Vig/BB and giving mafia the role. Which best suspects? Why didn't you mention these earlier? Why were you so wishy washy in your vote post yet suddenly say that the "best suspects" are at the top? And following this, his next post says he'll random who to hit between Kenpachi, Jackal58, and Fishball. This is suspicious. He doesn't want to be accountable for his choice. And perhaps he even wants to protect one of his mafia buddies by giving a list and picking one at "random". deconduo's posts bring up more questions than answers. First he is clearly lurkiing the thread. He tries to spread doubt through the town, and uses questionable methods to determine who to zap. He doesn't take responsibility for his actions, and just seems to be flailing around looking for a consensus. A consensus that would allow him to blame his missteps on the town as a whole. As a bonus, deconduo has night KP. Getting rid of that will give us a bit more time and hopefully give us at least another day to find another red. ##Vote Deconduo Guess what, jimbo posted first, and in that post he analyzed decon and found him anti town. Guess what your post did, helped narrow down who had the CC, not an antitown your post helped find our CC. Good job though bum. Keep in mind that you can try your best to take credit for things, but anyone who wants to read can see decon was getting votes, lsb pinned him on CC, and had detailed analysis on him before you even appeared. Stop lying and die already.
Well Jimbo has been a better townie then I have, I did give him credit for this. But deconduo could have argued against that case. I bet he had an argument written up, but I caused him to claim SK. Looking at that now, I guess he kinda had to claim SK as mafia. All you did BC with that post is give a different reason why we were going to lynch somebody we were already going to lynch.
I like what you did for the day 2 lynch though, very inspiring.
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 Bravo! Bravo!
Kita, I <3 you no matter who you hit. This game is wonderful
I'm sorry I'm delirious right now from sleep deprivation (watched GSL last night).
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I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING HAHAHA
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kitaman27
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On January 20 2011 08:45 aidnai wrote: Bravo! Bravo! Kita, I <3 you no matter who you hit. This game is wonderful I'm sorry I'm delirious right now from sleep deprivation (watched GSL last night).
##Shoot aidnai
I guess its time I come clean. The reason I never got my shot off was because I chose Politician, not vigilante. Spare me mafia? ^_^
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kitaman27
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Also 5/5 for the story bum :p
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lol aint this interesting. First scum try to paint bc as the sk. Then they try to frame him as the remaining scum. lol right. This isnt hard folks. BC has been the one doing real work and throwing up analysis. Not bumatlarge. Not hUplopaithan.
Now let me tell you what da scum have been doing all game long. Sit afk. Post nonsense one liners or whatevs. Then make random gigantic ass posts that have no value in them at all. They just want you to think 'oooh looksie here he made a big post he must be townie' even though their posts are overflowing with bullshit and have no opinions of their own.
Now they start outting their entire team except bum and haplo both are fighting against each other and trying to frame some random guy. God lets just end this charade, 'kay?
AND JUST SO ITS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR AND NOBODY HAS ANY DOUBT:
scumteam
Deconduo - fakeclaimed sk. is afk all game. is caught lying scum when fishball pops up converted traitor. Mafia must have cpr doctor somewhere in their ranks. copycat
Bumatlarge - afks all game. Contributes nothing. When the town is floundering he just sits around and snacks on some oranges. But when he and his scumbuddies are in trouble, look how fast batman zooms to the rescue. cpr doc or parity cop.
Haplopaithan - dont you dare call me jumbo again. Makes godawful posts. Picks parity cop, or bum did, even though eiii said he would take it and doesnt say a word to let eiii know to pick something else like a townie would. Clear scum move trying to deny a powerful detective role.
piqsquirrel - lol prince o darkness lol
Kita, SK. Make this simple. Do the right thing.
On January 20 2011 08:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2011 08:01 kitaman27 wrote:
@SK I doubt I have to explain it to you, but it is in your best interest to hit a scum. The PoD was used in an attempt to gain control of the lynch. You are the scum's number one lynch target, while the town is hunting for the cpr doctor and remaining mafia.
I will be not hitting deconduo tonight. If you want to prevent hit overlap, I suggest he be your target.
........ SK shoot bum
Kita shoot Halpo.For fucks sake, no overlap kills, cpr/parity die. I am writing up why bum's post is full of shit right now, but seriously kita, if you want to win this game just follow my advice this one time.
Shoot bum sk. Shoot haplo kita.
Scum just sit down and take this like men. No need for squirming anymore. Bum quit posting and save your dignity man. Who would you rather be, the batman that burns on the pyre, mocking everyone and refusing to talk or bargain? Or the screaming lunatic who the good townies shot in the face a dozen times to shove his bullshit down his throat?
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On January 20 2011 08:39 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2011 08:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 20 2011 07:47 bumatlarge wrote:I was roleblocked last night. I tried to rolecheck BC, as I am pretty sure either he or pig has CPR. So it's very clear from my perspective that the following are mafia. Deconduo HaploPaithan BC PigSquirrel This seems pretty clear now. Though I am not sure Haplo actually has parity, I don't even believe he knows how it functions. Look. On January 19 2011 00:43 HaploPaithan wrote:
Ok, I've been waiting to claim in hopes that Eiii was a scum and would lie about it. I did pick parity cop.
N1 i viewed Bumatlarge, N2 I viewed JimboSilvers. I got the result same.
@JumboShivers
The reason I picked up Parity Cop over Eiii even though Eiii claimed he was going to pick it is because I didn't want the mafia to kill the parity cop. Outright claiming you are going to pick Parity Cop makes you a pretty good target. If Eiii were going to die, I didn't want us to lose Parity Cop.
"I got the result same?" I'd like for him to clarify. But he should have it. So! Decon = CC Haplo = parity (have to check this, there might be some more slight possiblities, but that would involve kita being CPR rather then vig, would be retarded for mafia to take things like parity/mason instead of extra KP) BC = PoD/CPR Pig = PoD/CPR Assuming kita gets shot, he needs to hit either of those two so we can lynch the other. BC has conveniently assumed PoD is pig, but that is completely interchangeable in every scenario. I bet every shred of my dignity that BC has PoD, and pig has CPR. I get shot this night, I pop town. BC then proceeds to get lynched, and mafia has another night of CPR. This is the obvious situation at hand. I guess I have to really defend my integrity here? BC has constantly downplayed me for my 'lack of contribution' which I find ABSURD. He hasn't pointed out anyone that someone hasn't already. Guess why deonduo is CONFIRMED NON-TOWNIE? ME MOTHER FUCKERS. On January 13 2011 21:39 bumatlarge wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 13 2011 17:06 JimboSilvers wrote:Wow what the hell do you think you pansies are doing here. I leave, and everyone decides on the brilliant idea of lynching LayOffRage, who claimed vanilla who picked traitor. He claimed to have failed at picking traitor, which no scum in his right mind would do. His lynch was pretty much opposed by nobody, and nobody stepped up to defend him. So he's obviously not scum, and he claimed traitor is above him. Yet you guys decided to lynch him for no other reason than because you thought he was lying. Or you were afraid of lynching a witch. Brilliant. Its 17 players left and 4 people died last night. If one hit was a JOAT hit, then its another 4 hits tonight + 1 lynch = 12 players left. There are 5 are mafia, 6 if mafia recruited the traitor, which would make it game. If it wasn't a JOAT and there's 2 SKs, then its 5 hits tonight which is even worse. So this is a potential lylo. Even if we correctly lynch today, its 4 mafia left and we have few leads. So priorities for right now are that we need to lynch red, and we need to get rid of questionable KP sources. deconduo is supposedly the CPR doctor. But besides all the attention he gets from his role, he is nothing but a useless, space wasting, unreliable heap of uselessness. In his first few posts, deconduo asks a few questions and puts out a couple one liners about LSB's plan. He doesn't offer anything conclusive and doesn't try to put forward any new ideas. A little later on, he quotes Fishball and says: Show nested quote +On January 08 2011 06:13 deconduo wrote:
Chaos and confusion only benefits mafia. Doesn't offer any more opinions and doesn't follow up on this comment. He just comes in, pops in a negative statement, and disappears from the thread for an entire day. What is his point? He certainly isn't invested in his opinions. The next day, he comes back, picks a "random" number, and gets first pick. Other than that, he contributes nothing. Has a panic "crisis" where he claims he didn't get the role he picked. All this time its just one liners. What is he trying to do? Make it look like he is active or something? His vote post is interesting. He lays out the three candidates, lists general reasons to vote for them, but is very wishy-washy and doesn't take a real stand, meandering his way around lynch. He just picks one but doesn't seem convinced about who he's voting for. Right after that, he asks "On a last note, do you guys want me to zap someone tonight, and who do you want me to zap? Don't forget mafia can manipulate the 'zap vote' just as easily as they can manipulate a lynch." That last sentence is just terrible. Why does he need to mention this statement? It seems like he is just giving himself an out when a townie dies. Next, he pops out of nowhere to accuse Amber[LighT] of OMGUS voting for aidnai. Yet he doesn't like the way aidnai is playing either. So what is it? deconduo isn't putting any thoughts into his post. He's pointing fingers without pointing fingers. In his next useless post, he says: Show nested quote +There has been a few names thrown about the place, but theres no unanimous candidate. Considering that its likely mafia have the CC role, I've been looking at people near the end of the list (for the less powerful roles). While the best suspects are at the top, I don't want to risk losing our JOAT/Vig/BB and giving mafia the role. Which best suspects? Why didn't you mention these earlier? Why were you so wishy washy in your vote post yet suddenly say that the "best suspects" are at the top? And following this, his next post says he'll random who to hit between Kenpachi, Jackal58, and Fishball. This is suspicious. He doesn't want to be accountable for his choice. And perhaps he even wants to protect one of his mafia buddies by giving a list and picking one at "random". deconduo's posts bring up more questions than answers. First he is clearly lurkiing the thread. He tries to spread doubt through the town, and uses questionable methods to determine who to zap. He doesn't take responsibility for his actions, and just seems to be flailing around looking for a consensus. A consensus that would allow him to blame his missteps on the town as a whole. As a bonus, deconduo has night KP. Getting rid of that will give us a bit more time and hopefully give us at least another day to find another red. ##Vote Deconduo I love this guy, I wish I could have told him to pick mason I've got an idea. The top three can prove themselves. One is a CC, right? They have DayVig then (?Assuming first kill is the first passed?). All they need to do is type: Kill: bumatlarge(Yay, I'm not DayVig!) Or someone else. That way we can know for certain who is what. So deconduo, kitaman and kenpachi, proceed to do this ASAP. If you are not DayVig, it will do nothing. Also, if Dayvig is scum, I'd advise him to use it on someone they consider SK, as I believe it will kill them. There are supposedly 2, as we don't even know if a JOAT is in play, let alone used their ability. ##Vote deconduo WHY, on this lovely green planet would I EVER point this out? Of course he was already getting shit, and likely someone would have pointed this out, but I did keep my vote on him the rest of the day. He nearly got lynched (I did say I would have taken my vote off, but the dry wall wasnt going to do itself) when I didn't need to keep the vote there and buy mafia another day with a no lynch (which they got anyway, because certain individuals were splitting the vote on decon and fish). What was BC doing? Paving the way for a mafia victory. He really did a great job getting LSB out there and having deconduo kill him (no sarcasm, really nice catch BC ). Speaking of that, let's see this again... On January 15 2011 06:22 deconduo wrote:All the opinions I could find: BloodyC0bbler : LSB Amber[LighT]: Fishballkitaman27: Fishball Fishball : LSB HaploPaithan : (LSB I think?) LSB : Fishball deconduo : BC aidnai : BC?
On January 14 2011 10:50 aidnai wrote:cubed says shoot cubed aidnai says shoot BCbumatlarge says shoot LSB or BC Amber[light] says shoot BCPigsquirrel says shoot LSB Kenpachi loosely implies shoot BC... i'll just quote him On January 14 2011 09:31 Kenpachi wrote:
##vote abstain
eh.. BC wagon isnt going to happen today so no lynch for me. fishball says meh Not enough people to be decisive. I don't like it, but this will have to wait until morning. Less time to pick a lynch, sigh.
Fishball: 3 BC: 3-4 LSB: 4-5 I think Now I'm counting these out again. That's what decon said he thought it came to... LSB: 5 BC: 5-6 FB: 3 Now let me guess, both BC and FB were not going to get shot no matter how those votes went? Seems pretty obvious now in hindsight. And also, looking back on the 40-45 pages, haplo, deconduo and pig all call me town and call BC mafia. Take that as you will, but as I see it, maybe this plan was really forming after only zeks died night 2. That's pretty awesome. I can post them if people would like. And I'm not going to use real life as an excuse. There was time when I could have gotten on and did some soul-searching in this thread, but I decided not to. I started writing my visit to Eiii, but it appears more pressing matters are at hand. I'm assuming Amber RB'd me by the way, which is unfortunate, because then I could point out for certain whether Pig or BC is CPR. Good luck kita, it's your decision DONT LET THAT BC DUDE TELL YOU WHAT TO DO. FIGHT THE POWER. My only response to you is going to be bolding your miscount where you directly lie. With that your fate as lying mafia gets sealed. Honestly, do you guys not read your own posts? I bolded the votes above where Bum counts aidnai's vote twice, misrepresents that amber voted both for myself and fishball. making the counts actually Fishball: 2-3 BC: 3 - 5 LSB: 4 - 5. LSB is still ahead overall in numbers as at a minimum more people wanted him dead. Now, for the rest who are interested in massive lies by him, read his last bit where he is "conveniently" roleblocked when the plan for amber was to block halpo and kita shoot bum. Amber didn't disagree with this plan he merely added that cube should pick pig over decon due to pigs role. This seems to me at least he was on board with it, as rather than fix it, he would have criticized it. Meaning if he followed the plan, bum again lies. Bum has been caught lying all game, he is lying now. Halpo promised to be back hours ago with a post to defend himself, and no show, and here we have bum trying to bus his entire team. This to me means he is trying his best to save his own ass. Which red at this point has to survive the longest for the mafia to win? the cpr doctor. He just gave himself up guys, do the right thing. Oh, I did count Aidnai twice. My bad. Doesn't matter as you were never going to get hit anyway. Didn't you tell amber to RB me? I was to busy NOT FOLLOWING YOUR PLAN. I got Roleblocked, plain and simple. I never lied intentionally this entire game. I just make mistakes counting abstract votes that never really mattered. I think kita plans on shooting you anyway, which is good. But I'm still convinced Pig is the CPR. The fact that you assume I am the CPR in your theory is so shortsighted, that it's fairly clear what your agenda is. How is it 100% certain that I am CPR? Because you already know who it is, and for this to work, I have to die first, and then you get lynched, viola CPR is alive. Am I right BC? I mean, you weren't roleblocked this night and it went off? Pig was roleblocked night 2 and only zeks died? Maybe I'm misinterpreting how you positioned everything. And I said LSB's list was a good guideline I didn't pick RC because LSB told me to. Funny how you make that one of my main flaws. And now you are getting desperate because either: 1) Pig gets hit, and you lost any chance of winning 2) You get hit, and pop PoD and we lynch Pig then Your room for accusing me of lying and then making my choice to take Role Cop is closed off now
No, no it isnt. You specifically said you weren't going to follow it and did, factor in we know either you or halpo has parity, factor in we have pig not only claim red but pod. Decon is CC, bam we have 3 mafia roles on 4 players. As halpo was the one on the slate to be roleblocked (why would amber rb you if you were supposed to be vigi'd) and we have our cpr.
Funny how you bring me up for a lynch target. I am town, I have found your entire team, pinned you each to your roles, and you bring up a lynch? I expect to get shot either by your team or sk. If kita shoots me again he guarentee's town loss which is what you, halpo, pig, and decon have been aiming for all game. Who in this game has pushed the hardest for me to die? You, Pig, Halpo, Decon, Aidnai, Fishball.
Fishball flipped red traitor
Aidnai has said he believes i am town now
pig has claimed mafia
Decon is Mafia
Halpo linked you and he as only legit townies this game (yet doesn't try to check you to prove that?) Links to red by many people, you just bussed him
You claim halpo is red and are red on more than 1 person's list.
Wow, 5 of 6 red players have been accusing me for ages. Yes, I am obviously red, that is why my team has been busing me all game.
Now to catch you again. You mention pig was rb'd night 2 and only zeks died? Guess what
Kita shot at me and was rb'd
jimbo took a hit
kita took a hit
zeks died
4 hits. Voila, you again try to pin cpr on me, but all the hits were accounted 4. You try to change lie into mistake, however, purposeful misrepresentation of facts are indeed lies. I feel bad for you bum, you guys tried to play this game the same way as every other red team in recent games, idle by and do dick all and let town off itself. You must not have expected to have to deal with someone capable of analyzing you and calling you out, let alone someone who could defend theirself while revealing your lies in the process.
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On January 20 2011 07:47 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2011 21:39 bumatlarge wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 13 2011 17:06 JimboSilvers wrote:Wow what the hell do you think you pansies are doing here. I leave, and everyone decides on the brilliant idea of lynching LayOffRage, who claimed vanilla who picked traitor. He claimed to have failed at picking traitor, which no scum in his right mind would do. His lynch was pretty much opposed by nobody, and nobody stepped up to defend him. So he's obviously not scum, and he claimed traitor is above him. Yet you guys decided to lynch him for no other reason than because you thought he was lying. Or you were afraid of lynching a witch. Brilliant. Its 17 players left and 4 people died last night. If one hit was a JOAT hit, then its another 4 hits tonight + 1 lynch = 12 players left. There are 5 are mafia, 6 if mafia recruited the traitor, which would make it game. If it wasn't a JOAT and there's 2 SKs, then its 5 hits tonight which is even worse. So this is a potential lylo. Even if we correctly lynch today, its 4 mafia left and we have few leads. So priorities for right now are that we need to lynch red, and we need to get rid of questionable KP sources. deconduo is supposedly the CPR doctor. But besides all the attention he gets from his role, he is nothing but a useless, space wasting, unreliable heap of uselessness. In his first few posts, deconduo asks a few questions and puts out a couple one liners about LSB's plan. He doesn't offer anything conclusive and doesn't try to put forward any new ideas. A little later on, he quotes Fishball and says: Show nested quote +On January 08 2011 06:13 deconduo wrote:
Chaos and confusion only benefits mafia. Doesn't offer any more opinions and doesn't follow up on this comment. He just comes in, pops in a negative statement, and disappears from the thread for an entire day. What is his point? He certainly isn't invested in his opinions. The next day, he comes back, picks a "random" number, and gets first pick. Other than that, he contributes nothing. Has a panic "crisis" where he claims he didn't get the role he picked. All this time its just one liners. What is he trying to do? Make it look like he is active or something? His vote post is interesting. He lays out the three candidates, lists general reasons to vote for them, but is very wishy-washy and doesn't take a real stand, meandering his way around lynch. He just picks one but doesn't seem convinced about who he's voting for. Right after that, he asks "On a last note, do you guys want me to zap someone tonight, and who do you want me to zap? Don't forget mafia can manipulate the 'zap vote' just as easily as they can manipulate a lynch." That last sentence is just terrible. Why does he need to mention this statement? It seems like he is just giving himself an out when a townie dies. Next, he pops out of nowhere to accuse Amber[LighT] of OMGUS voting for aidnai. Yet he doesn't like the way aidnai is playing either. So what is it? deconduo isn't putting any thoughts into his post. He's pointing fingers without pointing fingers. In his next useless post, he says: Show nested quote +There has been a few names thrown about the place, but theres no unanimous candidate. Considering that its likely mafia have the CC role, I've been looking at people near the end of the list (for the less powerful roles). While the best suspects are at the top, I don't want to risk losing our JOAT/Vig/BB and giving mafia the role. Which best suspects? Why didn't you mention these earlier? Why were you so wishy washy in your vote post yet suddenly say that the "best suspects" are at the top? And following this, his next post says he'll random who to hit between Kenpachi, Jackal58, and Fishball. This is suspicious. He doesn't want to be accountable for his choice. And perhaps he even wants to protect one of his mafia buddies by giving a list and picking one at "random". deconduo's posts bring up more questions than answers. First he is clearly lurkiing the thread. He tries to spread doubt through the town, and uses questionable methods to determine who to zap. He doesn't take responsibility for his actions, and just seems to be flailing around looking for a consensus. A consensus that would allow him to blame his missteps on the town as a whole. As a bonus, deconduo has night KP. Getting rid of that will give us a bit more time and hopefully give us at least another day to find another red. ##Vote Deconduo I love this guy, I wish I could have told him to pick mason I've got an idea. The top three can prove themselves. One is a CC, right? They have DayVig then (?Assuming first kill is the first passed?). All they need to do is type: Kill: bumatlarge(Yay, I'm not DayVig!) Or someone else. That way we can know for certain who is what. So deconduo, kitaman and kenpachi, proceed to do this ASAP. If you are not DayVig, it will do nothing. Also, if Dayvig is scum, I'd advise him to use it on someone they consider SK, as I believe it will kill them. There are supposedly 2, as we don't even know if a JOAT is in play, let alone used their ability. ##Vote deconduo WHY BC? WHY WHY WHY? There is absolutely NO REASON for this as scum. Kill him kita, FOR THE CHILDREN
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On January 20 2011 08:57 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2011 07:47 bumatlarge wrote:On January 13 2011 21:39 bumatlarge wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 13 2011 17:06 JimboSilvers wrote:Wow what the hell do you think you pansies are doing here. I leave, and everyone decides on the brilliant idea of lynching LayOffRage, who claimed vanilla who picked traitor. He claimed to have failed at picking traitor, which no scum in his right mind would do. His lynch was pretty much opposed by nobody, and nobody stepped up to defend him. So he's obviously not scum, and he claimed traitor is above him. Yet you guys decided to lynch him for no other reason than because you thought he was lying. Or you were afraid of lynching a witch. Brilliant. Its 17 players left and 4 people died last night. If one hit was a JOAT hit, then its another 4 hits tonight + 1 lynch = 12 players left. There are 5 are mafia, 6 if mafia recruited the traitor, which would make it game. If it wasn't a JOAT and there's 2 SKs, then its 5 hits tonight which is even worse. So this is a potential lylo. Even if we correctly lynch today, its 4 mafia left and we have few leads. So priorities for right now are that we need to lynch red, and we need to get rid of questionable KP sources. deconduo is supposedly the CPR doctor. But besides all the attention he gets from his role, he is nothing but a useless, space wasting, unreliable heap of uselessness. In his first few posts, deconduo asks a few questions and puts out a couple one liners about LSB's plan. He doesn't offer anything conclusive and doesn't try to put forward any new ideas. A little later on, he quotes Fishball and says: Show nested quote +On January 08 2011 06:13 deconduo wrote:
Chaos and confusion only benefits mafia. Doesn't offer any more opinions and doesn't follow up on this comment. He just comes in, pops in a negative statement, and disappears from the thread for an entire day. What is his point? He certainly isn't invested in his opinions. The next day, he comes back, picks a "random" number, and gets first pick. Other than that, he contributes nothing. Has a panic "crisis" where he claims he didn't get the role he picked. All this time its just one liners. What is he trying to do? Make it look like he is active or something? His vote post is interesting. He lays out the three candidates, lists general reasons to vote for them, but is very wishy-washy and doesn't take a real stand, meandering his way around lynch. He just picks one but doesn't seem convinced about who he's voting for. Right after that, he asks "On a last note, do you guys want me to zap someone tonight, and who do you want me to zap? Don't forget mafia can manipulate the 'zap vote' just as easily as they can manipulate a lynch." That last sentence is just terrible. Why does he need to mention this statement? It seems like he is just giving himself an out when a townie dies. Next, he pops out of nowhere to accuse Amber[LighT] of OMGUS voting for aidnai. Yet he doesn't like the way aidnai is playing either. So what is it? deconduo isn't putting any thoughts into his post. He's pointing fingers without pointing fingers. In his next useless post, he says: Show nested quote +There has been a few names thrown about the place, but theres no unanimous candidate. Considering that its likely mafia have the CC role, I've been looking at people near the end of the list (for the less powerful roles). While the best suspects are at the top, I don't want to risk losing our JOAT/Vig/BB and giving mafia the role. Which best suspects? Why didn't you mention these earlier? Why were you so wishy washy in your vote post yet suddenly say that the "best suspects" are at the top? And following this, his next post says he'll random who to hit between Kenpachi, Jackal58, and Fishball. This is suspicious. He doesn't want to be accountable for his choice. And perhaps he even wants to protect one of his mafia buddies by giving a list and picking one at "random". deconduo's posts bring up more questions than answers. First he is clearly lurkiing the thread. He tries to spread doubt through the town, and uses questionable methods to determine who to zap. He doesn't take responsibility for his actions, and just seems to be flailing around looking for a consensus. A consensus that would allow him to blame his missteps on the town as a whole. As a bonus, deconduo has night KP. Getting rid of that will give us a bit more time and hopefully give us at least another day to find another red. ##Vote Deconduo I love this guy, I wish I could have told him to pick mason I've got an idea. The top three can prove themselves. One is a CC, right? They have DayVig then (?Assuming first kill is the first passed?). All they need to do is type: Kill: bumatlarge(Yay, I'm not DayVig!) Or someone else. That way we can know for certain who is what. So deconduo, kitaman and kenpachi, proceed to do this ASAP. If you are not DayVig, it will do nothing. Also, if Dayvig is scum, I'd advise him to use it on someone they consider SK, as I believe it will kill them. There are supposedly 2, as we don't even know if a JOAT is in play, let alone used their ability. ##Vote deconduo WHY BC? WHY WHY WHY? There is absolutely NO REASON for this as scum. Kill him kita, FOR THE CHILDREN
Your going to try that wifom nonsense? It builds credibility for you side. Decon shoots you, gets painted as sk and lives longer than he should since town will "force him" to help them. Mafia know sk is still alive and with the cpr doctor dead will spend more time offing townies than mafia.
Its a clever ploy that could have worked really if you knew how to execute it.
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That reminds me of something I was wondering earlier... why did everyone assume or know that CC got the dayvig role and not one of the other roles that died (e.g. bullet bill)?
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