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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 20 2011 00:04 GMT
#1461
On January 20 2011 08:52 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 08:39 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 20 2011 08:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 20 2011 07:47 bumatlarge wrote:
I was roleblocked last night. I tried to rolecheck BC, as I am pretty sure either he or pig has CPR.

So it's very clear from my perspective that the following are mafia.

Deconduo
HaploPaithan
BC
PigSquirrel

This seems pretty clear now. Though I am not sure Haplo actually has parity, I don't even believe he knows how it functions. Look.

On January 19 2011 00:43 HaploPaithan wrote:
Ok, I've been waiting to claim in hopes that Eiii was a scum and would lie about it. I did pick parity cop.
N1 i viewed Bumatlarge, N2 I viewed JimboSilvers. I got the result same.

@JumboShivers
The reason I picked up Parity Cop over Eiii even though Eiii claimed he was going to pick it is because I didn't want the mafia to kill the parity cop. Outright claiming you are going to pick Parity Cop makes you a pretty good target. If Eiii were going to die, I didn't want us to lose Parity Cop.


"I got the result same?" I'd like for him to clarify. But he should have it. So!

Decon = CC
Haplo = parity (have to check this, there might be some more slight possiblities, but that would involve kita being CPR rather then vig, would be retarded for mafia to take things like parity/mason instead of extra KP)
BC = PoD/CPR
Pig = PoD/CPR

Assuming kita gets shot, he needs to hit either of those two so we can lynch the other. BC has conveniently assumed PoD is pig, but that is completely interchangeable in every scenario.

I bet every shred of my dignity that BC has PoD, and pig has CPR. I get shot this night, I pop town. BC then proceeds to get lynched, and mafia has another night of CPR. This is the obvious situation at hand.

I guess I have to really defend my integrity here? BC has constantly downplayed me for my 'lack of contribution' which I find ABSURD. He hasn't pointed out anyone that someone hasn't already. Guess why deonduo is CONFIRMED NON-TOWNIE?

ME MOTHER FUCKERS.


On January 13 2011 21:39 bumatlarge wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 13 2011 17:06 JimboSilvers wrote:
Wow what the hell do you think you pansies are doing here. I leave, and everyone decides on the brilliant idea of lynching LayOffRage, who claimed vanilla who picked traitor. He claimed to have failed at picking traitor, which no scum in his right mind would do. His lynch was pretty much opposed by nobody, and nobody stepped up to defend him. So he's obviously not scum, and he claimed traitor is above him. Yet you guys decided to lynch him for no other reason than because you thought he was lying. Or you were afraid of lynching a witch. Brilliant.

Its 17 players left and 4 people died last night. If one hit was a JOAT hit, then its another 4 hits tonight + 1 lynch = 12 players left. There are 5 are mafia, 6 if mafia recruited the traitor, which would make it game. If it wasn't a JOAT and there's 2 SKs, then its 5 hits tonight which is even worse. So this is a potential lylo. Even if we correctly lynch today, its 4 mafia left and we have few leads. So priorities for right now are that we need to lynch red, and we need to get rid of questionable KP sources.

deconduo is supposedly the CPR doctor. But besides all the attention he gets from his role, he is nothing but a useless, space wasting, unreliable heap of uselessness.

In his first few posts, deconduo asks a few questions and puts out a couple one liners about LSB's plan. He doesn't offer anything conclusive and doesn't try to put forward any new ideas. A little later on, he quotes Fishball and says:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2011 06:13 deconduo wrote:
Chaos and confusion only benefits mafia.

Doesn't offer any more opinions and doesn't follow up on this comment. He just comes in, pops in a negative statement, and disappears from the thread for an entire day. What is his point? He certainly isn't invested in his opinions.

The next day, he comes back, picks a "random" number, and gets first pick. Other than that, he contributes nothing. Has a panic "crisis" where he claims he didn't get the role he picked. All this time its just one liners. What is he trying to do? Make it look like he is active or something? His vote post is interesting. He lays out the three candidates, lists general reasons to vote for them, but is very wishy-washy and doesn't take a real stand, meandering his way around lynch. He just picks one but doesn't seem convinced about who he's voting for. Right after that, he asks "On a last note, do you guys want me to zap someone tonight, and who do you want me to zap? Don't forget mafia can manipulate the 'zap vote' just as easily as they can manipulate a lynch." That last sentence is just terrible. Why does he need to mention this statement? It seems like he is just giving himself an out when a townie dies.

Next, he pops out of nowhere to accuse Amber[LighT] of OMGUS voting for aidnai. Yet he doesn't like the way aidnai is playing either. So what is it? deconduo isn't putting any thoughts into his post. He's pointing fingers without pointing fingers.

In his next useless post, he says:
Show nested quote +
There has been a few names thrown about the place, but theres no unanimous candidate. Considering that its likely mafia have the CC role, I've been looking at people near the end of the list (for the less powerful roles). While the best suspects are at the top, I don't want to risk losing our JOAT/Vig/BB and giving mafia the role.


Which best suspects? Why didn't you mention these earlier? Why were you so wishy washy in your vote post yet suddenly say that the "best suspects" are at the top? And following this, his next post says he'll random who to hit between Kenpachi, Jackal58, and Fishball. This is suspicious. He doesn't want to be accountable for his choice. And perhaps he even wants to protect one of his mafia buddies by giving a list and picking one at "random".

deconduo's posts bring up more questions than answers. First he is clearly lurkiing the thread. He tries to spread doubt through the town, and uses questionable methods to determine who to zap. He doesn't take responsibility for his actions, and just seems to be flailing around looking for a consensus. A consensus that would allow him to blame his missteps on the town as a whole. As a bonus, deconduo has night KP. Getting rid of that will give us a bit more time and hopefully give us at least another day to find another red.

##Vote Deconduo


I love this guy, I wish I could have told him to pick mason

I've got an idea. The top three can prove themselves. One is a CC, right? They have DayVig then (?Assuming first kill is the first passed?). All they need to do is type:

Kill: bumatlarge

(Yay, I'm not DayVig!)
Or someone else. That way we can know for certain who is what. So deconduo, kitaman and kenpachi, proceed to do this ASAP. If you are not DayVig, it will do nothing. Also, if Dayvig is scum, I'd advise him to use it on someone they consider SK, as I believe it will kill them. There are supposedly 2, as we don't even know if a JOAT is in play, let alone used their ability.

##Vote deconduo


WHY, on this lovely green planet would I EVER point this out? Of course he was already getting shit, and likely someone would have pointed this out, but I did keep my vote on him the rest of the day. He nearly got lynched (I did say I would have taken my vote off, but the dry wall wasnt going to do itself) when I didn't need to keep the vote there and buy mafia another day with a no lynch (which they got anyway, because certain individuals were splitting the vote on decon and fish).

What was BC doing? Paving the way for a mafia victory. He really did a great job getting LSB out there and having deconduo kill him (no sarcasm, really nice catch BC ). Speaking of that, let's see this again...

On January 15 2011 06:22 deconduo wrote:
All the opinions I could find:

BloodyC0bbler : LSB
Amber[LighT]: Fishball
kitaman27: Fishball
Fishball : LSB
HaploPaithan : (LSB I think?)
LSB : Fishball
deconduo : BC
aidnai : BC?




On January 14 2011 10:50 aidnai wrote:
cubed says shoot cubed
aidnai says shoot BC
bumatlarge says shoot LSB or BC
Amber[light] says shoot BC
Pigsquirrel says shoot LSB
Kenpachi loosely implies shoot BC... i'll just quote him
On January 14 2011 09:31 Kenpachi wrote:
##vote abstain
eh.. BC wagon isnt going to happen today so no lynch for me.

fishball says meh

Not enough people to be decisive. I don't like it, but this will have to wait until morning. Less time to pick a lynch, sigh.





Fishball: 3
BC: 3-4
LSB: 4-5

I think


Now I'm counting these out again. That's what decon said he thought it came to...

LSB: 5
BC: 5-6
FB: 3

Now let me guess, both BC and FB were not going to get shot no matter how those votes went? Seems pretty obvious now in hindsight.

And also, looking back on the 40-45 pages, haplo, deconduo and pig all call me town and call BC mafia. Take that as you will, but as I see it, maybe this plan was really forming after only zeks died night 2. That's pretty awesome. I can post them if people would like.

And I'm not going to use real life as an excuse. There was time when I could have gotten on and did some soul-searching in this thread, but I decided not to. I started writing my visit to Eiii, but it appears more pressing matters are at hand. I'm assuming Amber RB'd me by the way, which is unfortunate, because then I could point out for certain whether Pig or BC is CPR.

Good luck kita, it's your decision DONT LET THAT BC DUDE TELL YOU WHAT TO DO. FIGHT THE POWER.


My only response to you is going to be bolding your miscount where you directly lie. With that your fate as lying mafia gets sealed. Honestly, do you guys not read your own posts?


I bolded the votes above where Bum counts aidnai's vote twice, misrepresents that amber voted both for myself and fishball.

making the counts actually
Fishball: 2-3
BC: 3 - 5
LSB: 4 - 5.

LSB is still ahead overall in numbers as at a minimum more people wanted him dead.


Now, for the rest who are interested in massive lies by him, read his last bit where he is "conveniently" roleblocked when the plan for amber was to block halpo and kita shoot bum. Amber didn't disagree with this plan he merely added that cube should pick pig over decon due to pigs role.

This seems to me at least he was on board with it, as rather than fix it, he would have criticized it.
Meaning if he followed the plan, bum again lies.

Bum has been caught lying all game, he is lying now. Halpo promised to be back hours ago with a post to defend himself, and no show, and here we have bum trying to bus his entire team. This to me means he is trying his best to save his own ass. Which red at this point has to survive the longest for the mafia to win? the cpr doctor. He just gave himself up guys, do the right thing.


Oh, I did count Aidnai twice. My bad. Doesn't matter as you were never going to get hit anyway. Didn't you tell amber to RB me? I was to busy NOT FOLLOWING YOUR PLAN. I got Roleblocked, plain and simple. I never lied intentionally this entire game. I just make mistakes counting abstract votes that never really mattered. I think kita plans on shooting you anyway, which is good. But I'm still convinced Pig is the CPR. The fact that you assume I am the CPR in your theory is so shortsighted, that it's fairly clear what your agenda is.

How is it 100% certain that I am CPR? Because you already know who it is, and for this to work, I have to die first, and then you get lynched, viola CPR is alive. Am I right BC? I mean, you weren't roleblocked this night and it went off? Pig was roleblocked night 2 and only zeks died? Maybe I'm misinterpreting how you positioned everything.

And I said LSB's list was a good guideline I didn't pick RC because LSB told me to. Funny how you make that one of my main flaws. And now you are getting desperate because either:

1) Pig gets hit, and you lost any chance of winning
2) You get hit, and pop PoD and we lynch Pig then

Your room for accusing me of lying and then making my choice to take Role Cop is closed off now



No, no it isnt. You specifically said you weren't going to follow it and did, factor in we know either you or halpo has parity, factor in we have pig not only claim red but pod. Decon is CC, bam we have 3 mafia roles on 4 players. As halpo was the one on the slate to be roleblocked (why would amber rb you if you were supposed to be vigi'd) and we have our cpr.


It's a draft list, I specifically say I am not going to follow a list I call a good guideline. If LSB tells you to jump off a bridge because candy is at the bottom, and you say, no, I'm going to jump off the bridge because I'm unhappy, I'm not going to shout at your mutilated dead body and shout "LOL NO CANDY Y U JUMP?"

This is not something you FoS for. Next topic.

[/Quote]
Funny how you bring me up for a lynch target. I am town, I have found your entire team, pinned you each to your roles, and you bring up a lynch? I expect to get shot either by your team or sk. If kita shoots me again he guarentee's town loss which is what you, halpo, pig, and decon have been aiming for all game. Who in this game has pushed the hardest for me to die? You, Pig, Halpo, Decon, Aidnai, Fishball.

Fishball flipped red traitor
Aidnai has said he believes i am town now
pig has claimed mafia
Decon is Mafia
Halpo linked you and he as only legit townies this game (yet doesn't try to check you to prove that?) Links to red by many people, you just bussed him
You claim halpo is red and are red on more than 1 person's list.

Wow, 5 of 6 red players have been accusing me for ages. Yes, I am obviously red, that is why my team has been busing me all game.[/quote]

YES IT IS THATS WHAT IVE BEEEN SAYING SFHFHFFDFHD YOU ONLY NEED CPR TO LIVE TO WIN. FOR FUCK, AND ALL OF HIS FELLOW CUSS WORDS SAKE.

[/quote]
Now to catch you again. You mention pig was rb'd night 2 and only zeks died? Guess what

Kita shot at me and was rb'd
jimbo took a hit
kita took a hit
zeks died

4 hits. Voila, you again try to pin cpr on me, but all the hits were accounted 4. You try to change lie into mistake, however, purposeful misrepresentation of facts are indeed lies. I feel bad for you bum, you guys tried to play this game the same way as every other red team in recent games, idle by and do dick all and let town off itself. You must not have expected to have to deal with someone capable of analyzing you and calling you out, let alone someone who could defend theirself while revealing your lies in the process.[/QUOTE]

I'd advise everyone to read this over with a straight face. Do it I dare you.


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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 20 2011 00:04 GMT
#1462
AW SHIT LOOK AT ME IM RETARDED
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 20 2011 00:05 GMT
#1463
On January 20 2011 09:03 aidnai wrote:
That reminds me of something I was wondering earlier... why did everyone assume or know that CC got the dayvig role and not one of the other roles that died (e.g. bullet bill)?


first role dead listed was day vig
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 20 2011 00:06 GMT
#1464
On January 20 2011 09:00 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 08:57 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 20 2011 07:47 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 13 2011 21:39 bumatlarge wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 13 2011 17:06 JimboSilvers wrote:
Wow what the hell do you think you pansies are doing here. I leave, and everyone decides on the brilliant idea of lynching LayOffRage, who claimed vanilla who picked traitor. He claimed to have failed at picking traitor, which no scum in his right mind would do. His lynch was pretty much opposed by nobody, and nobody stepped up to defend him. So he's obviously not scum, and he claimed traitor is above him. Yet you guys decided to lynch him for no other reason than because you thought he was lying. Or you were afraid of lynching a witch. Brilliant.

Its 17 players left and 4 people died last night. If one hit was a JOAT hit, then its another 4 hits tonight + 1 lynch = 12 players left. There are 5 are mafia, 6 if mafia recruited the traitor, which would make it game. If it wasn't a JOAT and there's 2 SKs, then its 5 hits tonight which is even worse. So this is a potential lylo. Even if we correctly lynch today, its 4 mafia left and we have few leads. So priorities for right now are that we need to lynch red, and we need to get rid of questionable KP sources.

deconduo is supposedly the CPR doctor. But besides all the attention he gets from his role, he is nothing but a useless, space wasting, unreliable heap of uselessness.

In his first few posts, deconduo asks a few questions and puts out a couple one liners about LSB's plan. He doesn't offer anything conclusive and doesn't try to put forward any new ideas. A little later on, he quotes Fishball and says:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2011 06:13 deconduo wrote:
Chaos and confusion only benefits mafia.

Doesn't offer any more opinions and doesn't follow up on this comment. He just comes in, pops in a negative statement, and disappears from the thread for an entire day. What is his point? He certainly isn't invested in his opinions.

The next day, he comes back, picks a "random" number, and gets first pick. Other than that, he contributes nothing. Has a panic "crisis" where he claims he didn't get the role he picked. All this time its just one liners. What is he trying to do? Make it look like he is active or something? His vote post is interesting. He lays out the three candidates, lists general reasons to vote for them, but is very wishy-washy and doesn't take a real stand, meandering his way around lynch. He just picks one but doesn't seem convinced about who he's voting for. Right after that, he asks "On a last note, do you guys want me to zap someone tonight, and who do you want me to zap? Don't forget mafia can manipulate the 'zap vote' just as easily as they can manipulate a lynch." That last sentence is just terrible. Why does he need to mention this statement? It seems like he is just giving himself an out when a townie dies.

Next, he pops out of nowhere to accuse Amber[LighT] of OMGUS voting for aidnai. Yet he doesn't like the way aidnai is playing either. So what is it? deconduo isn't putting any thoughts into his post. He's pointing fingers without pointing fingers.

In his next useless post, he says:
Show nested quote +
There has been a few names thrown about the place, but theres no unanimous candidate. Considering that its likely mafia have the CC role, I've been looking at people near the end of the list (for the less powerful roles). While the best suspects are at the top, I don't want to risk losing our JOAT/Vig/BB and giving mafia the role.


Which best suspects? Why didn't you mention these earlier? Why were you so wishy washy in your vote post yet suddenly say that the "best suspects" are at the top? And following this, his next post says he'll random who to hit between Kenpachi, Jackal58, and Fishball. This is suspicious. He doesn't want to be accountable for his choice. And perhaps he even wants to protect one of his mafia buddies by giving a list and picking one at "random".

deconduo's posts bring up more questions than answers. First he is clearly lurkiing the thread. He tries to spread doubt through the town, and uses questionable methods to determine who to zap. He doesn't take responsibility for his actions, and just seems to be flailing around looking for a consensus. A consensus that would allow him to blame his missteps on the town as a whole. As a bonus, deconduo has night KP. Getting rid of that will give us a bit more time and hopefully give us at least another day to find another red.

##Vote Deconduo


I love this guy, I wish I could have told him to pick mason

I've got an idea. The top three can prove themselves. One is a CC, right? They have DayVig then (?Assuming first kill is the first passed?). All they need to do is type:

Kill: bumatlarge

(Yay, I'm not DayVig!)
Or someone else. That way we can know for certain who is what. So deconduo, kitaman and kenpachi, proceed to do this ASAP. If you are not DayVig, it will do nothing. Also, if Dayvig is scum, I'd advise him to use it on someone they consider SK, as I believe it will kill them. There are supposedly 2, as we don't even know if a JOAT is in play, let alone used their ability.

##Vote deconduo


WHY BC? WHY WHY WHY?
There is absolutely NO REASON for this as scum.

Kill him kita, FOR THE CHILDREN




Your going to try that wifom nonsense? It builds credibility for you side. Decon shoots you, gets painted as sk and lives longer than he should since town will "force him" to help them. Mafia know sk is still alive and with the cpr doctor dead will spend more time offing townies than mafia.

Its a clever ploy that could have worked really if you knew how to execute it.


Well, to give you some love, that idea sounds neat, but i don't think I understood what you just said?
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 20 2011 00:08 GMT
#1465
On January 20 2011 09:04 bumatlarge wrote:
AW SHIT LOOK AT ME IM RETARDED


you really are. Also for someone who knows only the cpr is required to win, why was I the first to really point that out? Why am I the only one analyzing people all game. Why is it that you only contribute when called out, why do you actively lie, why do you actively misinterpret facts, why for someone with all your experience (played as long as I have) are you making so many rookie mistakes? Seriously dude, sit down and see how the shots come out. Both your mafia team and my town team need massive luck to win. All these posts are doing now is trying to convince the sk which route he will take for his easiest win.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 20 2011 00:11 GMT
#1466
deconduo - whatever
Kenpachi - fat and lazy
kitaman27 - SHOOT BC
Barundar - whatever
Jackal58 - blah
Fishball - Barnold
Amber[Light] - RBs PIG night 2? NO KILL RBS ME NIGHT 3 LOOK 2 KILLS! AND A BLOCK
CubEdIn - lol RB medic
LayOffRage - HAHAHAHA
bumatlarge - "obv CPR"
HaploPaithan - Pansy cop, inferior Role cop
Eiii - As himself
BloodyC0bbler - PoD or CPR, It can be either.
zeks - he picked mason as scum? wat?
Misder - I have no idea what this guy even is
aidnai - Mr caterpillar needs to help me against BC
JimboSilvers - Im sorry I called you jumbo, the IPAD made it change
GGQ - WUT
Beneather - WUT
Pigsquirrel - PoD or CPR, either is plausible
Divinek - HAHAHA DIVINE
LSB - This guy
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aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
January 20 2011 00:11 GMT
#1467
To be fair BC, Kita seemed pretty convinced you were scum too...
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 20 2011 00:13 GMT
#1468
On January 20 2011 09:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 09:04 bumatlarge wrote:
AW SHIT LOOK AT ME IM RETARDED


you really are. Also for someone who knows only the cpr is required to win, why was I the first to really point that out? Why am I the only one analyzing people all game. Why is it that you only contribute when called out, why do you actively lie, why do you actively misinterpret facts, why for someone with all your experience (played as long as I have) are you making so many rookie mistakes? Seriously dude, sit down and see how the shots come out. Both your mafia team and my town team need massive luck to win. All these posts are doing now is trying to convince the sk which route he will take for his easiest win.


I DO NOT ACTIVELY LIE. Each time is a genuine mistake, why can't you understand! I just need town to win.



Are you an SK? oooh let me check my neat little rolecheck. As soon as I get it from Ace.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 20 2011 00:14 GMT
#1469
lol

~2 hours until Night Actions are in

Eiii is slated to be modkilled soon
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 20 2011 00:14 GMT
#1470
On January 20 2011 09:06 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 09:00 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 20 2011 08:57 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 20 2011 07:47 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 13 2011 21:39 bumatlarge wrote:
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On January 13 2011 17:06 JimboSilvers wrote:
Wow what the hell do you think you pansies are doing here. I leave, and everyone decides on the brilliant idea of lynching LayOffRage, who claimed vanilla who picked traitor. He claimed to have failed at picking traitor, which no scum in his right mind would do. His lynch was pretty much opposed by nobody, and nobody stepped up to defend him. So he's obviously not scum, and he claimed traitor is above him. Yet you guys decided to lynch him for no other reason than because you thought he was lying. Or you were afraid of lynching a witch. Brilliant.

Its 17 players left and 4 people died last night. If one hit was a JOAT hit, then its another 4 hits tonight + 1 lynch = 12 players left. There are 5 are mafia, 6 if mafia recruited the traitor, which would make it game. If it wasn't a JOAT and there's 2 SKs, then its 5 hits tonight which is even worse. So this is a potential lylo. Even if we correctly lynch today, its 4 mafia left and we have few leads. So priorities for right now are that we need to lynch red, and we need to get rid of questionable KP sources.

deconduo is supposedly the CPR doctor. But besides all the attention he gets from his role, he is nothing but a useless, space wasting, unreliable heap of uselessness.

In his first few posts, deconduo asks a few questions and puts out a couple one liners about LSB's plan. He doesn't offer anything conclusive and doesn't try to put forward any new ideas. A little later on, he quotes Fishball and says:
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On January 08 2011 06:13 deconduo wrote:
Chaos and confusion only benefits mafia.

Doesn't offer any more opinions and doesn't follow up on this comment. He just comes in, pops in a negative statement, and disappears from the thread for an entire day. What is his point? He certainly isn't invested in his opinions.

The next day, he comes back, picks a "random" number, and gets first pick. Other than that, he contributes nothing. Has a panic "crisis" where he claims he didn't get the role he picked. All this time its just one liners. What is he trying to do? Make it look like he is active or something? His vote post is interesting. He lays out the three candidates, lists general reasons to vote for them, but is very wishy-washy and doesn't take a real stand, meandering his way around lynch. He just picks one but doesn't seem convinced about who he's voting for. Right after that, he asks "On a last note, do you guys want me to zap someone tonight, and who do you want me to zap? Don't forget mafia can manipulate the 'zap vote' just as easily as they can manipulate a lynch." That last sentence is just terrible. Why does he need to mention this statement? It seems like he is just giving himself an out when a townie dies.

Next, he pops out of nowhere to accuse Amber[LighT] of OMGUS voting for aidnai. Yet he doesn't like the way aidnai is playing either. So what is it? deconduo isn't putting any thoughts into his post. He's pointing fingers without pointing fingers.

In his next useless post, he says:
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There has been a few names thrown about the place, but theres no unanimous candidate. Considering that its likely mafia have the CC role, I've been looking at people near the end of the list (for the less powerful roles). While the best suspects are at the top, I don't want to risk losing our JOAT/Vig/BB and giving mafia the role.


Which best suspects? Why didn't you mention these earlier? Why were you so wishy washy in your vote post yet suddenly say that the "best suspects" are at the top? And following this, his next post says he'll random who to hit between Kenpachi, Jackal58, and Fishball. This is suspicious. He doesn't want to be accountable for his choice. And perhaps he even wants to protect one of his mafia buddies by giving a list and picking one at "random".

deconduo's posts bring up more questions than answers. First he is clearly lurkiing the thread. He tries to spread doubt through the town, and uses questionable methods to determine who to zap. He doesn't take responsibility for his actions, and just seems to be flailing around looking for a consensus. A consensus that would allow him to blame his missteps on the town as a whole. As a bonus, deconduo has night KP. Getting rid of that will give us a bit more time and hopefully give us at least another day to find another red.

##Vote Deconduo


I love this guy, I wish I could have told him to pick mason

I've got an idea. The top three can prove themselves. One is a CC, right? They have DayVig then (?Assuming first kill is the first passed?). All they need to do is type:

Kill: bumatlarge

(Yay, I'm not DayVig!)
Or someone else. That way we can know for certain who is what. So deconduo, kitaman and kenpachi, proceed to do this ASAP. If you are not DayVig, it will do nothing. Also, if Dayvig is scum, I'd advise him to use it on someone they consider SK, as I believe it will kill them. There are supposedly 2, as we don't even know if a JOAT is in play, let alone used their ability.

##Vote deconduo


WHY BC? WHY WHY WHY?
There is absolutely NO REASON for this as scum.

Kill him kita, FOR THE CHILDREN




Your going to try that wifom nonsense? It builds credibility for you side. Decon shoots you, gets painted as sk and lives longer than he should since town will "force him" to help them. Mafia know sk is still alive and with the cpr doctor dead will spend more time offing townies than mafia.

Its a clever ploy that could have worked really if you knew how to execute it.


Well, to give you some love, that idea sounds neat, but i don't think I understood what you just said?


If you can't understand how to "confirm" one of your own team and give them a free pass to live, yet you think an entire mafia team would bus one player (while all are insanely obvious about their alignment) then you sir have yet to learn my style of play.

As town I am honest, I analyze and I don't beat around the bush. I pinned you guys, and easily did so. Did I do all the work? no

Did I kick you out of hiding? yes
Did I push an sk out of hiding? yes
Did I pick out pig, halpo and you? Yes.
Did I figure out decon's alignment based on a lynch? Yes (guess what everyone still thought he was sk then)

Have you been active till called out? No
Have you been helpful at all this game? No
Have you lied this game? yes
Have you done your best to bus the most pro town player? Yes

Seriously dude, sit down. You should have bussed me day 2, and now you and your cronies are pissed they didn't think to off me earlier and hope town would do it for you.

You are still hoping town will do it for you, since you flipping red like we both know you will confirms me, which scares the crap out of you, as you flipping red gives your entire team up, and lets me find the sk for the town.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
January 20 2011 00:15 GMT
#1471
you're gonna get his alignment from a rolecheck? (and SK is treated as green for alignment checks anyway lol)
JimboSilvers
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom167 Posts
January 20 2011 00:16 GMT
#1472
In case anyone has ANY DOUBTS AT ALL. Remember this.

On January 15 2011 17:19 JimboSilvers wrote:
Damn this is getting interesting. So I guess since deconduo is confirmed CC now, its unlikely we have a CPR doc unless someone was ballsy enough to pick it when it was pretty clear deconduo was going to pick it. So we might have 3 SKs unless the 4th hit last night was from a JOAT.

Deconduo should hit beneather. I'm pretty sure he's scum. Why? He's damn useless and posts only questions, one liners, doubt posts, and posts that just seems like he's trying to act. He doesn't offer any strong opinions, and offers questions on pointless information. And after he poses the questions, he never follows up and offers insight. His voting record is also laughable, he votes for LayOffRage day 1, and abstains day 2. He also has no acceptable reasoning for either of his votes.

kitaman should hit Fishball. Why? First off, this confirms kitas role and targets a troublemaker. If fishball flips traitor, then kita is confirmed innocent otherwise the hit wouldn't go through and fishball would be recruited instead. This is unlikely though, as I think Fishball is just plain scum. Hes been useless, calls out a bunch of people calling them scum with little reason. Although his play can be interpreted as "he's just having fun", he is active yet doesn't contribute. He stirs the pot when there is already chaos in the air, and doesn't do anything to actually help the town. Burn his ass.

For the third hit (CPR Doc/3rd SK), I propose zeks. This just reminds me of someone who is hiding. Said some stuff earlier about LSB's plan, announced his number, and announced that "I'll say that I'll be taking one of Alignment Cop, Tracker, Mason or Witch." Well its time for him to crawl out of your cave there, because for being an investigative role hes pretty clueless. Hes obviously not the witch. Either way, if hes any of the other roles he should state which one he is right now. Otherwise we should just shoot him. The rest of his posts have a common theme with the other above targets. Useless and insightless. He votes with flimsy reasoning on day 1, and didn't vote day 2.


On January 15 2011 17:28 JimboSilvers wrote:
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On January 15 2011 16:27 HaploPaithan wrote:
Sorry I missed the crucial voting time guys. I had some shit I had to do at that time.

We need to decide on a person for Kita to kill tonight.

List of likely targets.

Cube - Lied to town in a effort to scare the mafia. Pretty weak claim with contradictory arguments about his reasoning.

Deconduo - Claimed SK.

Fishball - Likely Traitor.

BC - Was a potential lynch target. He should still be looked into as a viable target.

Misder - Hasn't been posting much. I almost completely forgot he was in the game. He seems to be trying to sit back and stay out of sight. I think he is a likely candidate for a scum.

Bumatlarge - Some people seem to be suspicious of him. However Deconduo has already stated that he will be using is SK kill on him tonight.

Other? - Tell me who you think should be on this list. We need to try and keep the list short so we can actually get a clear decision. We don't want to leave it ambiguous. There is still a potential that Kita is a scum. We need to make sure he is killing who we want him to and not leaving up to his choice.

I will go ahead and choose Misder for my pick.

All the other players are of potential use to us. Cube has claimed to be a Doctor. He has been suspicious, but if he is doctor, it can be still be useful to us. Deconduo has a KP that will be used to target scum since he can't let scum win before he does. Fishball is a potential traitor. However if he wants to continue living he will continue to provide analysis. Plus its unlikely he has been recruited yet, so he won't know which players are actually scum, so he can't really protect those players in his analysis. BC is in a similar situation. Has been under suspicion and will continue to provide useful analysis in order to stay alive. Now we get to Misder. He has been quiet. Too quiet. He isn't going to be posting useful analysis anytime soon. He said himself that he will not be posting much in the near future either. So of all my potential targets he will be of the least use for town and as such the best target for a lynch.



Now then. Cube. You claim to be a doctor, but you won't use your ability. Stop being a pussy. Don't waste your ability because you're afraid. This is probably the reason I'm the most suspicious of you. A doctor who isn't protecting someone doesn't look good. You need to protect someone tonight. Who knows, it could be what prevents us from losing tonight or tomorrow.

I propose that you protect either
Kita - While he has the potential to be harmful to us, its probably best to keep him alive. If he turns out to be a scum, we probably can't win as it is.
HaploPaithan - I was targeted last night and saved. I think it could be likely that I'm targeted again. Obviously I'm a bit biased here.
Eiii - Is hopefully our Parity Cop. A pretty good reason to be protected. He hasn't confirmed this, but he probably shouldn't until he can at least tell us something.

You should tell us who you will be protecting us tonight. This should pretty much guarantee that that player will not be killed. Scum will be reluctant to hit him, plus your protection should save him if they do decide to go after him. Then in the case that you are a weak cop and you die from it, we will know who you protected and that that person is scum. I think we should be able to tell if your death was from weak cop or someone's KP by the amount of deaths that will occur tonight.

So yeah everyone please let us know who you want Kita's KP to be use on. Also please mention anything that I might have overlooked.


Oh hey nice of you to come in and post!

On your list : why would we kill the SK? First off we can't kill him at night since he's bulletproof, and second we need to kill mafia, not SK. We're in a terrible position given its 16 players and 5, potentially 6 mafia, and a bunch of KP.

Anything else to say about Fishball other than "likely traitor"?

Why Misder over other lurkers like zeks?

You mention bumatlarge and say other people seem to want to lynch him. What do YOU think? I'm not feeling conviction here. Along with the other questionable picks on your list, I'm just feeling like you're trying to pick easy candidates here.

Also:
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HaploPaithan - I was targeted last night and saved. I think it could be likely that I'm targeted again. Obviously I'm a bit biased here.


Why do you think you'll be targetted again? And why do you think you're so important that we need to save your life? Your most recent post is just atrocious. kitaman, please ignore my last request and shoot this loser instead.


I tried to get beneather fishball zeks and haplopaithan killed.

Guess what. I got shot that night. I WONDER WHY. Maybe, just maybe, I was too much of a threat to these bastards?

Do the right thing Kita, SK. Do what has to be done.

Kita shoots Haplo.
SK shoots Bum.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 20 2011 00:17 GMT
#1473
On January 20 2011 09:13 bumatlarge wrote:
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On January 20 2011 09:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 20 2011 09:04 bumatlarge wrote:
AW SHIT LOOK AT ME IM RETARDED


you really are. Also for someone who knows only the cpr is required to win, why was I the first to really point that out? Why am I the only one analyzing people all game. Why is it that you only contribute when called out, why do you actively lie, why do you actively misinterpret facts, why for someone with all your experience (played as long as I have) are you making so many rookie mistakes? Seriously dude, sit down and see how the shots come out. Both your mafia team and my town team need massive luck to win. All these posts are doing now is trying to convince the sk which route he will take for his easiest win.


I DO NOT ACTIVELY LIE. Each time is a genuine mistake, why can't you understand! I just need town to win.



Are you an SK? oooh let me check my neat little rolecheck. As soon as I get it from Ace.



Genuine mistakes? Sure once maybe, twice possibly? Anything past that at with your experience is a clear indicator of your alignment, you know better. I do get you are desperate to live, you need to live for mafia to win. It really does come down to who kita believes. If he shoots me, hes mafia mvp, if he shoots you, hes town hero. Its a tough choice for him. However, when the overwhelming majority can see you and your team for what they are now, he should be making the right choice tonight.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 20 2011 00:17 GMT
#1474
Wait, you if you are SK?
... then who was phone?
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The real CPR is hiding, 50% on pig, but it could be someone else... since I'm going to die anyway, it would be better for town to figure it out. BC cares not to get hit, because then kita can lynch his SKness. Pretty slick BC, but my sacrifice for town will not be in
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Together but separate, like oatmeal
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 20 2011 00:20 GMT
#1475
SK will shoot me because I am town Jimbo?
Together but separate, like oatmeal
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
January 20 2011 00:21 GMT
#1476
No, Jimbo is town and Jimbo says shoot the bum.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 20 2011 00:21 GMT
#1477
On January 20 2011 09:17 bumatlarge wrote:
Wait, you if you are SK?
... then who was phone?
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The real CPR is hiding, 50% on pig, but it could be someone else... since I'm going to die anyway, it would be better for town to figure it out. BC cares not to get hit, because then kita can lynch his SKness. Pretty slick BC, but my sacrifice for town will not be in
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rofl, now your pinning me on sk? not just red, now sk?

Awesome, flip flop more. IF i was sk, I'd never made a plan to rape you guys, why? I could off you at night myself. Keep you thinking you won and just own you. Sorry dude, but now your just running out of steam of things to say. If your down to being this desperate just give it up.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 20 2011 00:29 GMT
#1478
You guys are all SK.
I'm the good guy.
靈魂交響曲
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 20 2011 00:32 GMT
#1479
On January 20 2011 09:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On January 20 2011 09:17 bumatlarge wrote:
Wait, you if you are SK?
... then who was phone?
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The real CPR is hiding, 50% on pig, but it could be someone else... since I'm going to die anyway, it would be better for town to figure it out. BC cares not to get hit, because then kita can lynch his SKness. Pretty slick BC, but my sacrifice for town will not be in
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rofl, now your pinning me on sk? not just red, now sk?

Awesome, flip flop more. IF i was sk, I'd never made a plan to rape you guys, why? I could off you at night myself. Keep you thinking you won and just own you. Sorry dude, but now your just running out of steam of things to say. If your down to being this desperate just give it up.


Woah touchy spot. K ill back off, you are just regular CPR mafia with 2kp. I mean, it could be someone else besides you mr SK. You wouldn't think Jimbo is the SK would you? Misder? Nah.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 20 2011 00:35 GMT
#1480
On January 20 2011 09:32 bumatlarge wrote:
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On January 20 2011 09:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 20 2011 09:17 bumatlarge wrote:
Wait, you if you are SK?
... then who was phone?
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The real CPR is hiding, 50% on pig, but it could be someone else... since I'm going to die anyway, it would be better for town to figure it out. BC cares not to get hit, because then kita can lynch his SKness. Pretty slick BC, but my sacrifice for town will not be in
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rofl, now your pinning me on sk? not just red, now sk?

Awesome, flip flop more. IF i was sk, I'd never made a plan to rape you guys, why? I could off you at night myself. Keep you thinking you won and just own you. Sorry dude, but now your just running out of steam of things to say. If your down to being this desperate just give it up.


Woah touchy spot. K ill back off, you are just regular CPR mafia with 2kp. I mean, it could be someone else besides you mr SK. You wouldn't think Jimbo is the SK would you? Misder? Nah.


Touchy? Shows your desperation. Can't convince people I'm red now your trying to co nvince them I'm sk? dude make up your mind. Seriously if you think I'm sk now, yet didnt tell kita to not waste his hit. You so smart
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
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