[ask] I'm a Guitar Teacher - Page 4

This song is a minuet, so play each section twice in a row!

THERE IS ALWAYS ONE NOTE TO BE PLAYED AT A TIME - the font for this site makes the thing look a bit fucked up, unfortunately... so always just play the one that looks further on the left

Time: 3/4
Standard tuning

You'll have to listen to the song itself to get the tune. The only one I could find on Youtube is here:






First section (repeat) is in G Major

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--0--0--0--3-----------3--------------------------3-----2--------
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Second section (repeat) is in E Minor at first and then G Major

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--3--2--0--3--2--0--2----0--2--3--5-----------0--2---------------
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Haha ok, you've definitely obscured your question alot. Let me know if I miss anything you are asking haha.

Ok, down the rabbit hole Alice. Make yourself get better. For me, it's often a question of coming up with some idea, like , Could I play only chord tones if I wanted? Can I play only the 7ths and 9ths if I wanted? What about keeping things interesting while playing steady 8th notes? Only harmonics ? etc. This encourages new musical ideas as well as breeds technical problems that need to be solved.

Now you meanted you're really bad at phrasing. What sort of music are you playing? When you play, you should always be hoping to create not a musical experience, but an experience that is musical . Consider the difference. If playing for an audience, perhaps leave so much space between your first few notes that it's actually _awkward_ , let them get aroused for the next notes. Don't give it all away on the first date, type of thing. Do not put your ego in the music.

If you are playing for yourself, you should really intentionally try and do things different. Think of the next note you are going to play, then play a different one. Remember, no wrong notes, just sounds undiscovered. Never be afraid of your own music, try everything.

Also, you really really should at the major scale. It doesn't have to be your favourite scale, but everything is talked about in relation to that scale. When you learn about chords, they relate to the major scale, intervals, different modulations, pretty much everything comes back to it.

For jazz, the past things I talked of are going to be a huge headstart. If you can play the changes (playing chord tones as they switch) you will begin to have beautiful solos that sound fluid. Can you play the chords of jazz?



edit 1 Learn to play those chords. Tomorrow, you will learn just up until the first ending. Go slow, be patient, take your time. Absord the sounds as you play them. Think of the notes in the chord as you play them. What's the 5th of the first chord? what about the 7th of the 5th chord? etc. Good luck, this is a great branch to be on.
Tomorrow you will also learn the major scale in 1 octave. Dont worry TOO much about what's what, just learn how to play it, probs in C major.

edit 2 thank you , thank you for watching and listening!

edit 3 To me, as long as your guitar is playable, a better amp will do LOADS more for your sound then a good guitar through a bad amp. If you get a decent size one, say 50 watts, and keep it on a lower volume, the bass amp wont hurt it. You could play through headphones. So I say if your guitar is at all playable, keep it, get a good guitar amp, and a cheap bass. For amps dont get anything bigger than say about 80 watts, and even that is a pretty big over kill. 30-50 is big enough for pretty much any gig, especially your bedroom.


If you have more questions maybe try for bullet points or something hahaha >___^

Ahh, this can be tough. It's very hard to find a group of people. Unless they are very much at your level, I would assume a leadership role, a sort of communal one. For something complex like that, start just by bringing in a few sheets (can you reed sheet, or at least rhythm?!) of a few changing time signatures, then try playing them together. If you get the hang of it together, then you can embellish, and everyone can flesh out there own parts. I think it's alot better to come with a plan as opposed to a finished product if you want the band to be a real sort of band, and not just _your_ creative outlet (not that that is bad) . So come up with an idea, like, two measures of 5, then one of 3 then one of 4 and 2 of 6, then try and play through that, just on one note. From there, ideas will probably come. "Hey, maybe you could play a 3rd up? Oh, actually I like the augmented fifth.... oh ok cool go for it!! Then maybe for a new section we could just break it down into a smooth 4/4.....ye thats cool but then Glenn on the drums could slip in a 3/4 underneath? Yes. Got it? Not really, ok, glgogogogo!!"

Is this the sort of thing you are looking for?

Basically, come with a real idea, be flexible, but rigid enough to be able to guide others.

Haha yea it's a really great life out there. Sometimes it's hot and you make little money , but sometimes the ladies are kind to me and the paper is plenty. Often, it is responsible for almost half my income, and even more if you count indirectly (offers from people meeting me there etc)

Great initiative on the practise thing. Make sure to set serious time aside for different things (more on this) as well as just jamming noodly time, that way you can always be sure to progress but still have loads of fun without taking away from the other.

Well, I will answer your last question first which will lead me to the answer of your first question...

BE FUCKING MUSICAL. Jesus. Bass players , while some are tremendously solid, they get WAY too into the idea of just holdin it down. I mean yes, please, hold it down, but you can hold it down without being a pre recorded loop. Be dynamic! You have so much potential to influence a song. Play a constant groove, then break it down to a sparse texture. Influence the harmony, guide MY ear (the soloist) to new possibilities. Be fearless! Be able to solo, and accompany both very well. Understand the language of music, but more importantly be able to back it up in your playing. If a half diminished arpeggio of the ii chord, I want you to know what I'm saying and be able to do it. : )

If you can, you can join a group with me, haha.

What style are you hoping to be good at ? You sound ambitious!

So, heavy some very steady rhythm. You should be able to play all the chords in your upper register if you need to. Understand the roman numberal system of changes, I vi, ii, V, etc. Be a groove machine. Learn what it is to Bossa Nova, Samba, Slap, funk like Jaco Pastorious (Listen to his work on Kuru! Or anything off his first album) Blues in minor or major, walking basslines, basslines in 3/4 , etc. Being able to solo is a whole question into itself, but through your bass playing you will learn to play with changes and all that , so soloing will come easier.

Ask more if you need to. The more guided your questions are the more I can guide you. It's difficult when it is vague because of how many branches there are. You are doing well though.

Hey bro-rine

I could do this, I will wait and see maybe others would enjoy the task. Can you read sheet music? That would be a lot faster and easier for me.... I might be able to get to it before school starts. Unfortunately tabbing things is incredibly labourious and I'm not exactly turned on at the idea haha, that and I have heard that song many times and it is tired of my ears haha.

Ok great! The love of sounds in general, the the desire to grow is all you need. Don't lose these things.

Your very first task? Learn these chords

G Major, A minor, D major, E minor, C Major.

Let me know when you start to get a bit of a grip on them . Promise me to play 15 minutes a day, and we will progress together.

Thanks a lot for adding to the thread! this might turn people on to different kinds of music, and I love the classical style very much. Thank you for this sharing. If I can ever help you learn more, let me know.

putting the tab in [code] /code] will fix it, or at least in quote.

No , never. However, I see what you are getting at...

Singing.

Every musician MUST take it upon themselves to sing a little every day, 5 minutes. With their instrument is fine! I would say , here are 2 chords mister PG, play no more than 2 notes per measure, and sing every note. This style of playing lets you absorb how notes affect a harmony, and vice versa. Playing many notes will trick you into thinking you did everything well. Through singing, our true selves come out. Drop the ego. You can play guitar, but you can't make music. Through singing, we find what we truly want to express. For myself, I often don't play lines that are very complex, but I have a much better sense of harmonies and how to make myself feel deep emotions. If I can do this, then there is a chance I can do it for others. If not, then never beyond a superficial level.

Be able to identify all intervals upon hearing. Be able to sing any interval without having instrument in hand, this means you are internalizing the sounds.

As I mentioned, be able to play the changes. Most solos that are great tend to function in such a way that even if the whole band disappeared we'd still have an impression of what chords were being played. It doesn't have to be downright arpeggios, but guide is through chord changes. From there, you can choose to deviate , trick , or make love to us.

there is lots to say about this so feel free for more

hah emon the high priest. so funny : P P

The cure! Very nice. Arpeggiate! If you pick, pick up and down the strings, find patterns by google or experimentation. I think the fingers are much better for this style. Learn what alternate bass or "travis picking" is . It gives you a much nicer sound first off. Learn to make all your chords either Major Min, or dom seven chords. This will allow for a more beautiful texture when you choose instead of the plain jane chords. Learn how to walk a bassline from one chord to the next, simple, effective. This video you show me the player is doing most of the things I'm talking about , as well as adding little extensions onto the chords. Doing suspensions and Adds . Learn what these are and use them in fleeting moment. You are close to your goal, just missing certain sprinkles. Take a simple 3 chord song or something, slow it way the hell down , and think "What can I do to make this more interesting?!" The answer is often in the techniques I've mentioned.

I can help explain any of these processes if google is lacking.

OH !!! YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU. This video really had me at the end, lolololol.

Ahh, maybe I will do the BW thing, it seems very casual and I still play. Thanks for the heads. I dont play SC2 though.

With pop music and musicians, it kind of goes like this

Play music > Hate on mainstream music for being "the man" or something > play music more > realize who cares at all?

Mainstream music is designed to be applicable to the greatest (lowest? ) common denominator. It's more a fault of the general music listening audience for not really caring, but hey, I don't really care about the layout of my city , though I'm sure some city planners are dieing for a chance to try something more interesting than grid format.

In my music listening, I really like things that challenge me as a listener. Like movies, music is either pop, with clear good and bad guys and expected endings, while some are interpretive, like a Lynch film or something where you hear it and say "did I like that? I will have to listen again... Ok I dont like it but I cant stop listening omg I need more and all of this artists influences and what did he name his son etc etc"

Hey my man! You commented on my youtube, thanks my bro haha.

It really depends on the styles you want to play well.... I mean, it is true. Some styles have a cap on how difficult they can be, because they aren't about the instruments as they are the song.

Chord Chemistry by Ted Greene is pretty nice in that it's more about him trying to help you find your own way as opposed to "Follow these steps, they are the one way" . It is jazz oriented, though. It's 'available' online

If you give me some more specifics I can help you a lot better. Do you want solo mastery in every style? Just rock? metal? do you want to be able to write music , or just play certain tunes?

A very big subject here. Well, they typically follow the changes, as jazz progressions are full of mini-modulations, not many other styles (maybe just classical? Some metal?) do the soloists really pay attention to changes. Lots of embellishing (read: chromatics ). Can you read sheet? I might have a book of some interest.... Oh, and if you can, just look in the fake book! You will learn alot. Play the melodies by themselves, then play the chords and hear them together. The harmonies can have a huge impact on the melody. Sometimes the melodies themselves sound completely folky, and simple , but the rich harmonies put them in a different context.

If you look to my other post about singing, this helps you very much with phrasing. Pretty much every jazz musician breathes and paces himself, even the guitarist. They typically (though VERY subtly often) start their phrase softer and end soft, with the middle bubbling up a bit. Again, it's subtle, and hard to do properly. Syncopations should be under your fingers too. If doing runs of 16ths, you should be able to pop out any of them, not just the down and off beats, but the 2nd and 4th 16th notes as well. You hear this often.


Oh , also look up Chord Chemistry by Ted Greene. It talks lots about voice leading of chords and how to deal with notes. It talks primarily in harmony, but that is easily easily applied to solo sense. It is 'online'.

Ask more about this, but refine your question, especially if you explore the fakebook first.