nice to see more ESR people here on teamliquid :D
liquid` fighting!
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prodiG
Canada2016 Posts
nice to see more ESR people here on teamliquid :D liquid` fighting! | ||
Carmac
Poland375 Posts
On August 16 2010 13:46 Hakker wrote: This sounds awesome :D I just have one question, im not too sure how these things work but will the event in NYC be open to spectators? I live literally 30-45 minutes outside nyc and would love to get the chance to see this. You'll be able to spectate without a problem! We also reward people who travel the longest distance in order to spectate our events - show up, show us your ticket proving the distance traveled and if you're in the top 3, you get a prize. You're not that far off, but who knows...? ;-) | ||
arctics86
Germany797 Posts
On August 16 2010 10:35 G3nXsiS wrote: Honestly, until ESL pays Idra, I think people shout boycott ESL tournaments. If theres 1 thing I cannot stand its the fact that organizations don't pay out the prize money to the players. You might not personally have anything to do with this but ESL should not have any tournaments if they are having financial issues and cannot pay out prize money to the players. These players live on this money, if you cheat them they have nowhere to go and I think ESL knows that best. Maybe people don't boycott this because it's just not true? | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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GhoSt[shield]
Canada2131 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On August 16 2010 17:30 arctics86 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2010 10:35 G3nXsiS wrote: Honestly, until ESL pays Idra, I think people shout boycott ESL tournaments. If theres 1 thing I cannot stand its the fact that organizations don't pay out the prize money to the players. You might not personally have anything to do with this but ESL should not have any tournaments if they are having financial issues and cannot pay out prize money to the players. These players live on this money, if you cheat them they have nowhere to go and I think ESL knows that best. Maybe people don't boycott this because it's just not true? According to IdrA, he has not been paid for past ESL victories. Carmac, as representative of the IEM and ESL, should probably look into this in order to maintain the reputation of the establishment he represents. Whether to ban IdrA or not is another topic altogether. Tournament organizers obviously have the right to exclude anyone they please. | ||
theonlyking
Germany18 Posts
On August 16 2010 17:42 Azarkon wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2010 17:30 arctics86 wrote: On August 16 2010 10:35 G3nXsiS wrote: Honestly, until ESL pays Idra, I think people shout boycott ESL tournaments. If theres 1 thing I cannot stand its the fact that organizations don't pay out the prize money to the players. You might not personally have anything to do with this but ESL should not have any tournaments if they are having financial issues and cannot pay out prize money to the players. These players live on this money, if you cheat them they have nowhere to go and I think ESL knows that best. Maybe people don't boycott this because it's just not true? According to IdrA, he has not been paid for past ESL victories. Carmac, as representative of the IEM and ESL, should probably look into this in order to maintain the reputation of the establishment he represents. Whether to ban IdrA or not is another topic altogether. Tournament organizers obviously have the right to exclude anyone they please. and you base your assumption on the statement of ONE player? Wouldn't it be kinda illogical by Idra to participate in the Event in Cologne if the ESL never paid his prize money? It may take some time for the ESL to pay (up to one year afaik) but they do at least pay, otherwise no one would participate in their tournaments, especially not on such a global scale with all the traveling expenses involved. | ||
Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On August 16 2010 17:58 theonlyking wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2010 17:42 Azarkon wrote: On August 16 2010 17:30 arctics86 wrote: On August 16 2010 10:35 G3nXsiS wrote: Honestly, until ESL pays Idra, I think people shout boycott ESL tournaments. If theres 1 thing I cannot stand its the fact that organizations don't pay out the prize money to the players. You might not personally have anything to do with this but ESL should not have any tournaments if they are having financial issues and cannot pay out prize money to the players. These players live on this money, if you cheat them they have nowhere to go and I think ESL knows that best. Maybe people don't boycott this because it's just not true? According to IdrA, he has not been paid for past ESL victories. Carmac, as representative of the IEM and ESL, should probably look into this in order to maintain the reputation of the establishment he represents. Whether to ban IdrA or not is another topic altogether. Tournament organizers obviously have the right to exclude anyone they please. and you base your assumption on the statement of ONE player? Wouldn't it be kinda illogical by Idra to participate in the Event in Cologne if the ESL never paid his prize money? It may take some time for the ESL to pay (up to one year afaik) but they do at least pay, otherwise no one would participate in their tournaments, especially not on such a global scale with all the traveling expenses involved. I said that it's an issue Carmac should look into, which does not imply that they are in the wrong. I say this because it is an accusation IdrA has made against the ESL establishment and has already gathered strong "crowd momentum" within the TL community as a strike against ESL's reputation. Consequently, it needs to be addressed if the ESL is to preserve its credibility with many people here, which I'm sure they desire since TL is, after all, the biggest community for professional SC/SC 2. Also, it's not like unpaid winnings are that rare in eSports. Last I checked, the ESWC has still yet to pay Ted for performances over a year ago. | ||
Rainmaker5
United States1027 Posts
On August 16 2010 17:58 theonlyking wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2010 17:42 Azarkon wrote: On August 16 2010 17:30 arctics86 wrote: On August 16 2010 10:35 G3nXsiS wrote: Honestly, until ESL pays Idra, I think people shout boycott ESL tournaments. If theres 1 thing I cannot stand its the fact that organizations don't pay out the prize money to the players. You might not personally have anything to do with this but ESL should not have any tournaments if they are having financial issues and cannot pay out prize money to the players. These players live on this money, if you cheat them they have nowhere to go and I think ESL knows that best. Maybe people don't boycott this because it's just not true? According to IdrA, he has not been paid for past ESL victories. Carmac, as representative of the IEM and ESL, should probably look into this in order to maintain the reputation of the establishment he represents. Whether to ban IdrA or not is another topic altogether. Tournament organizers obviously have the right to exclude anyone they please. and you base your assumption on the statement of ONE player? Wouldn't it be kinda illogical by Idra to participate in the Event in Cologne if the ESL never paid his prize money? It may take some time for the ESL to pay (up to one year afaik) but they do at least pay, otherwise no one would participate in their tournaments, especially not on such a global scale with all the traveling expenses involved. Considering he's a member of CJ Entus I'll base my assumption on IdrA's word and the reason he's going is because he's a member of CJ Entus. He gets paid based of the fact he plays for the team. The money is a bonus. | ||
theonlyking
Germany18 Posts
On August 16 2010 18:06 Rainmaker5 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2010 17:58 theonlyking wrote: On August 16 2010 17:42 Azarkon wrote: On August 16 2010 17:30 arctics86 wrote: On August 16 2010 10:35 G3nXsiS wrote: Honestly, until ESL pays Idra, I think people shout boycott ESL tournaments. If theres 1 thing I cannot stand its the fact that organizations don't pay out the prize money to the players. You might not personally have anything to do with this but ESL should not have any tournaments if they are having financial issues and cannot pay out prize money to the players. These players live on this money, if you cheat them they have nowhere to go and I think ESL knows that best. Maybe people don't boycott this because it's just not true? According to IdrA, he has not been paid for past ESL victories. Carmac, as representative of the IEM and ESL, should probably look into this in order to maintain the reputation of the establishment he represents. Whether to ban IdrA or not is another topic altogether. Tournament organizers obviously have the right to exclude anyone they please. and you base your assumption on the statement of ONE player? Wouldn't it be kinda illogical by Idra to participate in the Event in Cologne if the ESL never paid his prize money? It may take some time for the ESL to pay (up to one year afaik) but they do at least pay, otherwise no one would participate in their tournaments, especially not on such a global scale with all the traveling expenses involved. Considering he's a member of CJ Entus I'll base my assumption on IdrA's word and the reason he's going is because he's a member of CJ Entus. He gets paid based of the fact he plays for the team. The money is a bonus. And you do believe that CJ Entus would pay his travel to Germany if ESL doesn't pay his prize money? | ||
arctics86
Germany797 Posts
Are you guys IdrA's attorneys? Great job filling this thread with nonsense. | ||
Carmac
Poland375 Posts
On August 16 2010 17:42 Azarkon wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2010 17:30 arctics86 wrote: On August 16 2010 10:35 G3nXsiS wrote: Honestly, until ESL pays Idra, I think people shout boycott ESL tournaments. If theres 1 thing I cannot stand its the fact that organizations don't pay out the prize money to the players. You might not personally have anything to do with this but ESL should not have any tournaments if they are having financial issues and cannot pay out prize money to the players. These players live on this money, if you cheat them they have nowhere to go and I think ESL knows that best. Maybe people don't boycott this because it's just not true? According to IdrA, he has not been paid for past ESL victories. Carmac, as representative of the IEM and ESL, should probably look into this in order to maintain the reputation of the establishment he represents. Whether to ban IdrA or not is another topic altogether. Tournament organizers obviously have the right to exclude anyone they please. I do not know of any outstanding prize money for IdrA, but I am not in the posision to know those details either (he has not won any money in the Intel Extreme Masters so far). Having said that, if he comes over to me in Cologne and mentions any outstanding prize money with the ESL, then I will gladly help him out to the best of my ability. | ||
taichou
Lithuania108 Posts
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zatic
Zurich15306 Posts
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Teeny
Austria885 Posts
Btw: Carmac = awesome! | ||
Carmac
Poland375 Posts
On August 16 2010 19:28 taichou wrote: Carmac u'r going to make fun of players again?:}} with some epic video interviews... ? ;-) | ||
taichou
Lithuania108 Posts
On August 16 2010 19:48 Carmac wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2010 19:28 taichou wrote: Carmac u'r going to make fun of players again?:}} with some epic video interviews... ? ;-) Just imagine talking as Uszaty, taking interview from Idra and saying that zerg is imba! man that would be funny:D | ||
bmml
United Kingdom962 Posts
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SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
Carmac, i fucking love you, thank you thank you <3 Edit: this deserves to be in the Spotlight(or better News) on Frontpage imo | ||
uNiGNoRe
Germany1115 Posts
Still, I can't fucking wait. 5 days of SC2 and QL. Aaaahh... | ||
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