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United States22883 Posts
On July 05 2010 11:59 WeSt wrote: When I went to the US the policeman at the airport asked me a bunch of ridiculous questions. It went like this:
Cop: "What are you doing in the US?" Me: "Just looking for some leisure time" Cop: "Where are you going after this?" Me: "I'm going to check in my hotel" (couple more questions like this one later) Cop: "Are you happy?" Me: "I'm sorry?..." Cop: "I ASKED YOU, are you happy?" Me: "I guess so, yes"
Now I understand the cop was doing his job and although I was bored to hell awnsering to the first questions what kind of retarded piece of crap comes up with "Are you happy?".
A bit off topic, I just wanted to share this funny (sad) story.
About the canadian guy... he was a dick. It's true that the "What shop?" was a bit unecessary but if you are entering another country all you want to do is awnser their questions. Simple.
EDIT: I lol'ed at the 3 terrorists per day from Canada. Seriously ahaha.
THREE. TERRORISTS. FROM CANADA. EVERY. DAY Passing through customs is like this for most countries. Frankfurt airport is especially bad, in my experience.
People need to realize that the questions aren't supposed to be standard. They're supposed to be a bit awkward in case you've just rehearsed them and you're thrown off by something that should be easily answerable.
They don't care about what you say in response to dumb questions like "ware you happy" or "which shops," they're only looking at how you respond.
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United States13896 Posts
Anyone that takes that kind of tone with an officer is asking for trouble. From the very beginning he was pushing his luck, and about 2/3's of the way in he was beyond all hope. It's not about what you think you're entitled to, you just respond in a respectful manner and the same respect will be given to you. If your ego gets a little hurt because you think you were asked a stupid question or given a bogus ticket, so what? It's better than pushing the issue and being locked up for the night/day.
I don't know about the assault charge, sounds more like he was resisting arrest and not assaulting anyone, but that's besides the point. For someone who had supposedly been across the border and dealt with this before he should have known better. Probably got too used to used to being shuffled through and was impatient to get going.
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This shit reminds me of half the retards that get perma-banned from TL.net. He was like one of those guys that get unbanned from TL only to bitch about why he was banned in the first place. The mods keep tell him to move on and be a good poster from now on, but he just got to keep pushing it and pushing it. Until they get so fed up with his bullshit they finally reban him. This happens all the time, and happened just yesterday in the automated an list thread with that Killphil dude.
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Right from the beginning that guy has a way too rough tone of voice, he was asking for it, I've never had any issues with border patrol, toll booths, airport security, or anything. Just go about your business, don't be a complete asshole, don't talk back, and don't have a nasty tone of voice and nothing will happen to you.
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On July 05 2010 15:15 ZlaSHeR wrote: Right from the beginning that guy has a way too rough tone of voice, he was asking for it, I've never had any issues with border patrol, toll booths, airport security, or anything. Just go about your business, don't be a complete asshole, don't talk back, and don't have a nasty tone of voice and nothing will happen to you.
Agreed... It almost seems like he's provoking the officer on purpose since he's recording the whole encounter.
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How could you possibly support the officers here? I have no idea why everyone thinks he deserved what he got. He was treated like shit by the officers, people get pissed off when they are treated like shit. The border patrol guys were on a HUGE power trip and were hostile from the go. The man only become argumentative after he had been wronged. These officers are public servants. And as public servants they should act like public servants. That means being polite and explaining yourself when you want someone to do something for you. Not acting like you own the fucking country and can do whatever you want. If I was in that situation I would be defiant as well.
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On July 05 2010 20:17 Fen wrote: How could you possibly support the officers here? I have no idea why everyone thinks he deserved what he got. He was treated like shit by the officers, people get pissed off when they are treated like shit. The border patrol guys were on a HUGE power trip and were hostile from the go. The man only become argumentative after he had been wronged. These officers are public servants. And as public servants they should act like public servants. That means being polite and explaining yourself when you want someone to do something for you. Not acting like you own the fucking country and can do whatever you want. If I was in that situation I would be defiant as well.
The man and the original officer both had attitudes I feel, so I was not surprised or really had empathy when he was told to pull over to the side for the interview. From that point onward, that man was a complete idiot, not thinking through any of what he was saying. The man interviewing him was being extremely cordial, and he wanted to get anything done about the original officer, he should have been equally respectful, but he wasn't; he was acting borderline irate at times.
Should he have been pulled over? Probably not. Should you know better than to act like that to an officer, and even more so towards the cordial man interviewing you? Definitely. The man had his chance and kept up his attitude because he was upset over the questionable call. The business with the 'assault' sounds like the officers were just fed up with his attitude and we're punishing him. I don't agree with that, but I can't feel sympathy for this man at all.
Look, I compare this to the videos of skateboarders that get questioned by the police and want to be smart-asses about it. They know their friend has the camera, and they want to look cool and impress their friends by having an attitude with the cops. Then when the cop gets fed up and arrests them, or confiscates their skateboard, they get on about their rights and how unjust it was. If you play with fire, you're going to get burned.
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On July 05 2010 14:32 p4NDemik wrote: Anyone that takes that kind of tone with an officer is asking for trouble. From the very beginning he was pushing his luck, and about 2/3's of the way in he was beyond all hope. It's not about what you think you're entitled to, you just respond in a respectful manner and the same respect will be given to you. If your ego gets a little hurt because you think you were asked a stupid question or given a bogus ticket, so what? It's better than pushing the issue and being locked up for the night/day.
I don't know about the assault charge, sounds more like he was resisting arrest and not assaulting anyone, but that's besides the point. For someone who had supposedly been across the border and dealt with this before he should have known better. Probably got too used to used to being shuffled through and was impatient to get going. except not licking the ass of every officer you come across is not a crime yet (at least where im coming from). officers cant (SHOULDNT) be able to do shit about you not being nice and respectful to them as long as you dont break any laws and will eventually do what they ask of you, if they are justified in asking that of you. officers on the other hand are obligated to do their best to not escalate the situation and to refrain from using violence/force as much as possible. this is how it is in europe. from all the videos i have seen it seems to be different in the united states, and im not envious of them. most free country my ass. its sad really, but whats even more sad is that they dont care about it and still hold that their country is the greatest nation on earth. i dont know about you, but thats not what i call a civilized society. its abuse of power whereever you look.
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