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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4200 Posts
July 03 2010 04:03 GMT
#1


Just listen.

This is quite an interesting altercation at the border between Canada and the US. I've crossed the border many times myself, probably at the same crossing as this guy on some occasions.

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I had an interesting situation when they discovered I had some bulk diatom powder in my trunk, which incidentally looks just like cocaine yet is deadly if snorted..... But that is completely unrelated.....

What the hell is this? Granted, he didn't have to be such a dick, but there is no way the situation should have escalated like that.

What is TL's thoughts on this type of behavior by border guards? Is this type of thing worth the false security that it provides (what is it, 1% of cargo containers entering the US through shipyards are actually checked for illegal content)?

Discuss.

PS - Preview for blogs ftw!!!!!

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Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 04:20:57
July 03 2010 04:13 GMT
#2
The border dudes on the US/Mexico are like this with the questions, I could see my dad's eyes flmaing with anger as he is forced to answer calmly.

Anyways I'm still listening.

The guy kinda annoys me, he should have just shut up and went across the border. The border patrol are annoying as fuck, but they are a necessary part of international commerce/traveling. He sounds like such a bitch when he gets arrested.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
July 03 2010 04:18 GMT
#3
yup, I'm still listening.

The "excuse" or ground basis for "I don't need to tell you my reasons", "if an Officer tells you to do something, you do it".

Are you fucking kidding me?, if that's how it goes, fuck the US.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
July 03 2010 04:19 GMT
#4
3 a day, what a load of shit.

LOL
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16992 Posts
July 03 2010 04:19 GMT
#5
I honestly think that the point of these border guards isn't actually to intercept potentially harmful or contraband items, but more or less to assuage the fears of the general American public of some ill-defined threat.
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Issor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States870 Posts
July 03 2010 04:23 GMT
#6
Pulling away from someone grabbing you is assault.
Dance.jhu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States292 Posts
July 03 2010 04:23 GMT
#7
the dude is fucking over reacting....just dont have a smart mouth when you are crossing a border. its common sense
It is what it is...
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 04:26:55
July 03 2010 04:24 GMT
#8
On July 03 2010 13:23 Dance.jhu wrote:
the dude is fucking over reacting....just dont have a smart mouth when you are crossing a border. its common sense


Then is it safe to say, that a cop can..e..take away your cellphone and all your belongings, without giving a reason cause when an Officer tells you to do something, you just do and ask no questions?.

CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Kezzer
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1268 Posts
July 03 2010 04:26 GMT
#9
The first officer was completely out of bounds and unreasonable, but the second was a bit more understanding of the situation, and I feel the Canadian guy was a bit smart-talking and provoking. If he was cooperative with the second officer this probably would have been a lot smoother.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
July 03 2010 04:26 GMT
#10
Men in charge of garbage disposal are sad sacks of shit that fucked up their lives and have to go get one of those useless jobs that make society better for us.

Border guards are worse in that they don't actually do anything for society.
lalala
jjun212
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada2208 Posts
July 03 2010 04:27 GMT
#11
LOL; elm drive in mississauga!!!

dude, i live like 10 minutes away from him ahahahaha
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 04:29:13
July 03 2010 04:27 GMT
#12
On July 03 2010 13:24 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 13:23 Dance.jhu wrote:
the dude is fucking over reacting....just dont have a smart mouth when you are crossing a border. its common sense


Then is it safe to say, that a cop can..e..take away your cellphone and all your belongings, without giving a reason cause when an Officer tells you to do something, you just do and ask no questions?.



Or he could have answered the questions calmly/rationally, without provoking the officer, then gone about his day. The cop wouldn't have asked for the stuff if the guy wasn't being a jerk.

On July 03 2010 13:26 youngminii wrote:
Men in charge of garbage disposal are sad sacks of shit that fucked up their lives and have to go get one of those useless jobs that make society better for us.

Border guards are worse in that they don't actually do anything for society.


If in a lifetime of work at the border they only catch 1 terrorist, then it is actually worth it.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
TaaiJoeng
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Hong Kong164 Posts
July 03 2010 04:28 GMT
#13
The officer who asked what store they're going to was retarded. The guy who was answering the questions was retarded. The wife who overreacted was retarded.
...but the parasites say NO!
mainerd
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States347 Posts
July 03 2010 04:28 GMT
#14
i got a similar treatment when i crossed the border from Niagara, after a short conversation about what i had been doing in canada i got told to park my car, they brought me to a waiting room, then told me i was gonna be searched, and proceeded to pull out everything in my car and inspect it with a drug dog. i was definitely not as combative as this guy though, i had nothing to hide and just wanted to leave. detained me for about 25-30 mins and let me go. this clip sounds pretty damning, especially the conclusion, but i can't help but feeling that the guy getting detained blew it out of proportion. had he complied, he probably would have gotten treated the same way i did. these people have a serious job to do, and do NOT have time for BS.
"Let me tell you, in eSTRO we had some circle jerks, straight up. It wasn't pretty." -NonY
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
July 03 2010 04:29 GMT
#15
On July 03 2010 13:27 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 13:24 funkie wrote:
On July 03 2010 13:23 Dance.jhu wrote:
the dude is fucking over reacting....just dont have a smart mouth when you are crossing a border. its common sense


Then is it safe to say, that a cop can..e..take away your cellphone and all your belongings, without giving a reason cause when an Officer tells you to do something, you just do and ask no questions?.



Or he could have answered the questions calmly/rationally, without provoking the officer, then gone about his day. The cop wouldn't have asked for the stuff if the guy wasn't being a jerk.


being a jerk?

Am I supposed to know what exactly am I going to do?, if I just want to visit the mall, then I'm a terrorist cause I have no other plans than to walk the mall around and shop random stuff with my wife?.

lol?
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16992 Posts
July 03 2010 04:32 GMT
#16
On July 03 2010 13:29 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 13:27 Megalisk wrote:
On July 03 2010 13:24 funkie wrote:
On July 03 2010 13:23 Dance.jhu wrote:
the dude is fucking over reacting....just dont have a smart mouth when you are crossing a border. its common sense


Then is it safe to say, that a cop can..e..take away your cellphone and all your belongings, without giving a reason cause when an Officer tells you to do something, you just do and ask no questions?.



Or he could have answered the questions calmly/rationally, without provoking the officer, then gone about his day. The cop wouldn't have asked for the stuff if the guy wasn't being a jerk.


being a jerk?

Am I supposed to know what exactly am I going to do?, if I just want to visit the mall, then I'm a terrorist cause I have no other plans than to walk the mall around and shop random stuff with my wife?.

lol?


While I may agree with you on ideological bases, in practice, I'd certainly want an active police force that responds to situations in which they have a reasonable suspicion of malicious activity. Any person walking around the mall with his wife might not be suspicious, but I'd certainly want someone who was, say, shuffling around the mall, looking around, and leaving unattended bags behind trash cans to be at least questioned.
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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 04:33:08
July 03 2010 04:32 GMT
#17
On July 03 2010 13:27 Megalisk wrote:
If in a lifetime of work at the border they only catch 1 terrorist, then it is actually worth it.

By that logic, we should get rid of all cars because cars kill people.
By that logic, we should ban alcohol because alcohol kills people.
By that logic, we should ban games because games (WoW) kill people.

I could go on forever actually.
lalala
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 04:34:21
July 03 2010 04:33 GMT
#18
On July 03 2010 13:29 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 13:27 Megalisk wrote:
On July 03 2010 13:24 funkie wrote:
On July 03 2010 13:23 Dance.jhu wrote:
the dude is fucking over reacting....just dont have a smart mouth when you are crossing a border. its common sense


Then is it safe to say, that a cop can..e..take away your cellphone and all your belongings, without giving a reason cause when an Officer tells you to do something, you just do and ask no questions?.



Or he could have answered the questions calmly/rationally, without provoking the officer, then gone about his day. The cop wouldn't have asked for the stuff if the guy wasn't being a jerk.


being a jerk?

Am I supposed to know what exactly am I going to do?, if I just want to visit the mall, then I'm a terrorist cause I have no other plans than to walk the mall around and shop random stuff with my wife?.

lol?


Their job is to ask those questions, when I was coming from Mexico into the US for a funeral, you wouldn't believe the questions they asked my dad, but its what they have to do. No one (myself included) likes the border process, but its gotta be done.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
July 03 2010 04:33 GMT
#19
On July 03 2010 13:32 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 13:29 funkie wrote:
On July 03 2010 13:27 Megalisk wrote:
On July 03 2010 13:24 funkie wrote:
On July 03 2010 13:23 Dance.jhu wrote:
the dude is fucking over reacting....just dont have a smart mouth when you are crossing a border. its common sense


Then is it safe to say, that a cop can..e..take away your cellphone and all your belongings, without giving a reason cause when an Officer tells you to do something, you just do and ask no questions?.



Or he could have answered the questions calmly/rationally, without provoking the officer, then gone about his day. The cop wouldn't have asked for the stuff if the guy wasn't being a jerk.


being a jerk?

Am I supposed to know what exactly am I going to do?, if I just want to visit the mall, then I'm a terrorist cause I have no other plans than to walk the mall around and shop random stuff with my wife?.

lol?


While I may agree with you on ideological bases, in practice, I'd certainly want an active police force that responds to situations in which they have a reasonable suspicion of malicious activity. Any person walking around the mall with his wife might not be suspicious, but I'd certainly want someone who was, say, shuffling around the mall, looking around, and leaving unattended bags behind trash cans to be at least questioned.



But then you're are just supposing he will be doing these kinds of things, and are reacting towards your beliefs of him being a terrorist. I know this "might" happen like in every other border crossing, but let me tell you, this is an example of some mediocre training there.

"What Shop?".
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Dance.jhu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States292 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 04:40:46
July 03 2010 04:34 GMT
#20
On July 03 2010 13:24 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 13:23 Dance.jhu wrote:
the dude is fucking over reacting....just dont have a smart mouth when you are crossing a border. its common sense


Then is it safe to say, that a cop can..e..take away your cellphone and all your belongings, without giving a reason cause when an Officer tells you to do something, you just do and ask no questions?.



A person that is entering a country in which they are not a citizen and running their big mouth is complete different from your example....use your head
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