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muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 05:34:56
July 03 2010 05:32 GMT
#41
It's a border crossing, not some queue line to enter chucky cheese's.

edit: my general rule is not to antagonize men with big guns(specifically in a foreign country).
ejac
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 05:57:33
July 03 2010 05:38 GMT
#42
I don't blame the border people too much. I agree that the question "what store are you going to" is fairly ridiculous, but just answer their fucking question and don't act like a smart ass. The reality is this, the border people are probably required to pull X amount of people out of their cars a day, and the people they are going to choose are the ones annoying them, it's not like you wouldn't either.

Also, the "interviewer" did absolutely nothing wrong. The guy seriously just needed to grow up, answer their questions and get on with his day, you're not going to win.

Having had a couple jobs in my life, i know that the reality is you adopt the personality that your job requires. Their job requires them to take everything extremely seriously and so they do.
esq>n
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
July 03 2010 05:40 GMT
#43
Wow, i couldnt believe what i was hearing the whole time. Heh, thats what happens when stressful people conflict O_O
[ReD]NaDa and fnaticMSI.SEn fighting~! ::POlar @ UC Irvine::
RageOverdose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States690 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 05:41:48
July 03 2010 05:40 GMT
#44
Meh...

He got an attitude to start with by questioning the worth of the officer's question. And the nervous laugh to go with it. I mean, I don't know if it's reasonable to expect the officer was just annoyed or if he felt that there was actually some suspicion there for avoiding the question. Maybe a little of both.

The guy was also acting like he was special. Apparently, they should use bias in his favor. He is different, but they don't know it yet, so he should get let out anyway. He doesn't seem like a criminal.

But I can't condone the actions of the officers either, and who can say that even if he answered the better way by just saying "I'm just going to browse around," or "I'm not really sure what exact stores there are," or whatever that the officer would've let them on?

I don't know. It's not clear black-and-white to me. On the one hand, the officer has no prior info on the guy, so he has to take anything not a clean answer to his questions as a bit suspicious but could also be letting emotion overtake judgment when it shouldn't. On the other hand, you have a guy who is just provoking and essentially derailing anything the officers say, but he could also be nervous too and had a lapse in judgment as a result. Although the uploader of the video seems to believe the tape was done to prove a point. If so, then it's biased and null as far as I'm concerned.
404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
July 03 2010 05:42 GMT
#45
Talking back to the office probably wasn't the best idea, but it's kind of hard to blame him considering how like-dirt he was treated.

It's almost like the officers had some sort of bring-in-to-interview or arrests quota. When the officers all started screaming 'Are you threatening me?', 'Was that a threat?', 'That was a threat'. It seemed total BS and just about gave me an aneurysm.
seriously next disrespectful comment in this blog is ip ban. Be happy or get the hell out. // SC2 is like playing with neutral-colored Play-Doh while BW is like colorful Legos.
AeonStrife
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States918 Posts
July 03 2010 05:48 GMT
#46
He was being completely arrogant. They are trained to take everything serious when it comes to the border. You would be surprised what these officers find from people trying to cross the border.

I know they are talking about terrorist crap, but drugs is also a big deal in every crossing...

Whats worse...US Poltics or SC2 Balance Talks...
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 06:04:59
July 03 2010 05:59 GMT
#47
This guy is a huge douche bag. It is astounding. I think the border patrol were just fucking with this guy because he was being a huge douche. I just laughed at the end of this cause the guy got what he deserved.
Antiochus
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada548 Posts
July 03 2010 06:03 GMT
#48
As much as I can understand the hate for border gaurds and what not the guy on the tape was asking for trouble the way he responded to some of those questions. I get that the border gaurd asked some pretty dumb questions like "which store are you going to?" but responding with some smartass answer is just a bad idea. When the second border gaurd asked him the same question he explained that he was going to be walking around looking at many different shops. If he had given that answer earlier instead of his smartass one this shitfest would of easily been avoided.
All play and no work makes Jack unemployed.
404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
July 03 2010 06:11 GMT
#49
On July 03 2010 14:59 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
This guy is a huge douche bag. It is astounding. I think the border patrol were just fucking with this guy because he was being a huge douche. I just laughed at the end of this cause the guy got what he deserved.


Hahaha, taking a step back and looking at it like this is pretty great.
seriously next disrespectful comment in this blog is ip ban. Be happy or get the hell out. // SC2 is like playing with neutral-colored Play-Doh while BW is like colorful Legos.
machinehead..
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
412 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 06:27:32
July 03 2010 06:23 GMT
#50
Yeah, sure you could handle questions better -- even if you think someone is fucking with you -- but you have to expect that a certain percentage of people are going to react the same way to such questions, thus you just end up wasting time when you could obviously better use your time elsewhere. Realistically, I can't imagine many people with something to hide are going to back talk the boarder control, so eliciting that kinda response doesn't make all that much sense to me.
ffz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States490 Posts
July 03 2010 06:29 GMT
#51
lol come on that guy was asking for it...
Meow.
zeuS~
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States193 Posts
July 03 2010 06:37 GMT
#52
Well the first cop the guy came across did have an asshole attitude the whole time but when he got to the interviewer (who seemed incredibly patient and reasonable) this guy was just plain retarded in his responses. If anything i feel bad for his wife as it was his stupidity and that alone that got them both arrested.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
July 03 2010 07:01 GMT
#53
The guy is a dick. "Do you HONESTLY think that I'm lying? HONESTLY?" Shut the fuck up bro. Assume nothing, verify everything. That is what security people do. He takes this shit sooo personally.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 07:14:08
July 03 2010 07:03 GMT
#54
I understand he was being defiant based on some sort of principal, however, there comes a time when it is best to just swallow your pride and act in accordance to the situation. People have to understand that a lot of the rights they think they have become null at the border. It is not wise by any means to provoke people who have the power to do a lot of things that are definitely not good. Neither party handled the situation all that well; but at the end of the day, the guy crossing the border was the only one that could really get burned in that situation and he should have realized that.

Edit: I've listened through twice for the supposed "threats" that were recorded; but maybe I am missing something because I wasn't able to hear any threats.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
July 03 2010 07:07 GMT
#55
Did anyone else read the description in the video? It's even more ridiculous than the video itself:

+ Show Spoiler +
Since this video has been getting so many views, and ppl have been asking the same questions, I figured Id explain a couple things here.
This video was sent to me by someone on facebook. I dont know who the guy is, what the aftermath was, or which crossing this was at.

Im noticing something from all the comments tho. For the most part, it seems like the ppl who have the menatality that "everything is OK", that the war on terror is real, that osama brought the towers down, that terrorists hate us for our 'freedoms' and are hell bent on destroying us all... you know, that whole false paradigm way of thinking.. these people for the most part have this attitude that the guy got what he deserved; that he shouldve just stfu, sat down, and complied.
I have a problem with that tho, and thats mainly because these agencies, these ppl, these govt's, are supposed to work for us, the people. Not the other way around. This guys job is not to treat other humans like dogs. They are not there to treat us all like potential criminals, like pieces of shit that have no rights, and should feel privilidged to even be able to travel to the US. It isnt to act like complete dicks, trying to get a reaction... which is exactly what went on here. That cop was looking for this reaction, and escalated it from the second the interview started.
Just because this guy gave them a little attitude back, they couldnt take that, so they got pissed off and arrested him. and to make matters worse they tell him moving away from a cop is assult. WTF.
Is this not fascism? This is like nazi germany.. show me your papers...

The guy sounded to me like someone whos been throiugh this whole song n dance before, and got aggitated because he knew the nonsense he was about to go through.
So why is it that the cop can give this guy attitude, but this guy cant give it right back. People seem to think cops or anyone with a badge is some how above us, and we must do exactly as they say. But in reality these ppl are paid by tax dollars; they are here for us. So for them to turn around and act like this, is inexcusable.

This guy had every right to give a little attitude back to those pricks. How about starting the conversation off with hello fellow human, how are you? instead they set the tone by asking rapid fire questions, giving the guy no time to answer the questions.. and as soon as the guy gives a little attitude back, the cop hates that, because its undermining his power... and thats why 90% of these guys took the job afterall... because theyre power tripping bullies.
Soon as some guy takes away their upperhand or lets them know theyre not gonne bend over, this infuriates them. And thats what we see here.

They arrest the guy for talking back. He didnt do anything illegal, he didnt break the law. The cops could easily have said fuck off buddy go home, youre not getting in to this country with that attitude. Instead they just wanted to arrest him and get him in jail. Because who do you think you are, talking back to a border cop.

Moral of the story is fuck these bullies and fuck the over reaching govt, both in the US and in Canada (mind you our shitty policies are a result of the US telling our govt what to do and how to act, under the guise of this bs 'war on terror'.

Everyones being fooled by this false pretense nonsense since 9/11.
It wasnt the arabs, stupid!
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Blixy213
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States360 Posts
July 03 2010 07:49 GMT
#56
That guy had it coming, it's not a smart idea to talk back to an officer, or in this case be a complete jackass to one. Jail might have been a little harsh, and I do understand he just wanted to go to the mall. But it's an officer, and it was his attitude that put him in jail.
#1 sKyHigh and MorroW fan. "Should have stayed in the bush, bush reaper."
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 03 2010 07:59 GMT
#57
lol. this is pretty funny.
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Drayne
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada239 Posts
July 03 2010 08:08 GMT
#58
hilarious, smartass, seriously i hope he didnt get locked for more then 24 hours but the 2nd was pretty understanding, he asked for it
intrudor
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada446 Posts
July 03 2010 08:20 GMT
#59
he'll be even more angry the next time he crosses the border.....if he ever gets out of jail -.-
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3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
July 03 2010 09:04 GMT
#60
I don't usually side with the state in these matters, but this guy was being an uncooperative prick and certainly deserved to be detained. I doubt he actually served jail time, especially since his "threat" appears to be absent from the recording. If he did then the officers were abusing their power and also at fault.
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