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On June 30 2010 03:05 Alou wrote: Oh what have I started. Read it all, but philosophy is just not my thing. Living without philosophy is like living with closed eyes without trying to open them. - Descartes
YEAH MAN
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Portugal legalized same sex marriage a couple of months ago too. Every country should legalize it as it doesn't really matter lol.
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On June 30 2010 02:08 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2010 13:23 Fontong wrote:On June 29 2010 10:22 BlackJack wrote:On June 29 2010 05:56 Fontong wrote:On June 29 2010 05:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm okay with marriage, as long as they don't get kids. Other than that I'm fine. That's like saying single parents should have their children taken away from them. I'm not going to jump into the debate on this one, but I just want to say that this analogy has been used a lot in this thread and it is so absurd and flawed. The other line that has been used a lot is, "there are plenty of children in heterosexual homes that are worse off." Those hetero couples probably wouldn't be allowed to adopt either. Taking a kid away from his parents it's not as easy as qualifying/rejecting someone to adopt children. I'd bet there are a lot more lesbian couples that get turned down for adoption than there are children that have been taken away from their biological mother(s). In any case, it's still like saying that single parents should have their children taken away if you say that homosexual couples shouldn't be allowed to adopt children. Again, how do you come up with this analogy? It's so random and makes no sense whatsoever. Let's say a family has a child and the father is drafted to go fight a war. The father dies in the war and the mom is now a single mother. Because we deny homosexuals the right to adopt, that baby should be taken away from it's mother? That is logical to you? The army guys comes to tell the widow that her husband is fallen and then says "I'm sorry but we're going to have to take your kid because homosexuals can't adopt." The way you are debating this is really strange. I never said anything about taking away a child from a single parent because homosexuals can't adopt.
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What is the hurt when 2 men who are homosexual adopt a child who would otherwise never have a loving family.
I am all for these kind of things, equal rights to everyone plx.
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Whenever I see a thread with a topic like this I just click on all pages and then control F the word 'God' then start reading from there.
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On June 30 2010 07:41 Pineapple wrote: Whenever I see a thread with a topic like this I just click on all pages and then control F the word 'God' then start reading from there. God just told me homosexuality isn't a big deal. After all, why did he make Adam first? Adam was made in God's image. God must be a man. Despite the fact he wouldn't need a sex\gender. Guess who he made to be his friend? A man.
Solid, irrefutable logic.
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On June 30 2010 05:21 Baksteen wrote: What is the hurt when 2 men who are homosexual adopt a child who would otherwise never have a loving family.
I am all for these kind of things, equal rights to everyone plx.
i agree on principal but theres so many other social factors that would make me disagree as well ...
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Congratulations to Iceland! I've never had a problem with gay marriage or adoption to be honest. Just one less stumbling block on the road to equality.
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On June 29 2010 22:13 Biff The Understudy wrote:lol How dare you? EDIT: Actually, it made me laugh out loud. <3 Calvin & Hobbes. I think the comic was directed at Moltke, as it sums up his posts in this thread quite well.
Saying Nietzsche can't be taken seriously also made me laugh.
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On June 30 2010 07:45 Romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2010 07:41 Pineapple wrote: Whenever I see a thread with a topic like this I just click on all pages and then control F the word 'God' then start reading from there. God just told me homosexuality isn't a big deal. After all, why did he make Adam first? Adam was made in God's image. God must be a man. Despite the fact he wouldn't need a sex\gender. Guess who he made to be his friend? A man. Solid, irrefutable logic.
Adam wasn't meant to be his only friend though, and god gave him a companion so he wouldn't be lonely. This companion was a woman.
Logic refuted.
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i dont know why christians dont think gays aren't found in nature. I dont know about you but i see more gay's in nature than say.. angels?
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On July 01 2010 10:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2010 07:45 Romantic wrote:On June 30 2010 07:41 Pineapple wrote: Whenever I see a thread with a topic like this I just click on all pages and then control F the word 'God' then start reading from there. God just told me homosexuality isn't a big deal. After all, why did he make Adam first? Adam was made in God's image. God must be a man. Despite the fact he wouldn't need a sex\gender. Guess who he made to be his friend? A man. Solid, irrefutable logic. Adam wasn't meant to be his only friend though, and god gave him a companion so he wouldn't be lonely. This companion was a woman. Logic refuted. Crap!
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On June 30 2010 02:08 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2010 13:23 Fontong wrote:On June 29 2010 10:22 BlackJack wrote:On June 29 2010 05:56 Fontong wrote:On June 29 2010 05:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm okay with marriage, as long as they don't get kids. Other than that I'm fine. That's like saying single parents should have their children taken away from them. I'm not going to jump into the debate on this one, but I just want to say that this analogy has been used a lot in this thread and it is so absurd and flawed. The other line that has been used a lot is, "there are plenty of children in heterosexual homes that are worse off." Those hetero couples probably wouldn't be allowed to adopt either. Taking a kid away from his parents it's not as easy as qualifying/rejecting someone to adopt children. I'd bet there are a lot more lesbian couples that get turned down for adoption than there are children that have been taken away from their biological mother(s). In any case, it's still like saying that single parents should have their children taken away if you say that homosexual couples shouldn't be allowed to adopt children. Again, how do you come up with this analogy? It's so random and makes no sense whatsoever. Let's say a family has a child and the father is drafted to go fight a war. The father dies in the war and the mom is now a single mother. Because we deny homosexuals the right to adopt, that baby should be taken away from it's mother? That is logical to you? The army guys comes to tell the widow that her husband is fallen and then says "I'm sorry but we're going to have to take your kid because homosexuals can't adopt."
I think what he was trying to say is that if you don't think a homosexual couple can have children it must be because you think only a man/women couple should be aloud to have children, and obviously there's not a man/women couple in the case of a single parent. Am I right?
But regardless, <3 Iceland.
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I'm really glad for the change. I don't see a reason as too why gay marriage is a bad thing. They are people, they should be able to have their rights.
On the other hand.. this means I might have to go to a wedding this year or next.. god damn, I hate attending weddings!
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I would just let homosexuals get married. If they want to be miserable like the rest us, why not let them?
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