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On May 31 2010 02:30 Hesmyrr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2010 02:21 Korynne wrote: What I'm really worried about right now is that L could have gotten information from a couple people because they didn't realize PMs are not allowed and just did what L said because I have no idea why people just decide to listen to L.
I personally don't think he's all that good, I'm more of a Radfield fan, cuz he actually catches mafia legit and makes sense, and doesn't have the stupid I'm better than you vibe. Same with Ace, I'm reading the red army mafia thing right now and I'm definitely siding with Ace right now reading through it (don't know if Ace or L is mafia or whatever yet still on day 1 in the reading). Not in the gamelol Ace had his fair share of elitism in the past. Just keep in mind Ace hates me. You couldn't count the number of times he has called me stupid.
=D
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But I'm biased regarding that cuz I don't like your style. xD
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i mind it odd that a veteran player such as L could miss such a simple rule i hope no one actually PM'd L with valuable information
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On May 31 2010 03:19 johnnyspazz wrote: i mind it odd that a veteran player such as L could miss such a simple rule i hope no one actually PM'd L with valuable information
he gets the point..how is possible that L miss that rule? To be hones he didn't broke any rules..in fact he send no PM at all..but he makes other break the rule.. Now he have big information about some players that trusted him.
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On May 31 2010 01:11 LuDwig- wrote: L this game has no PM .___. if we have to shoot my vote goes to Korynne
Reason: He is trying too hard to write everything..in my opinion he wants to appear as " a real motiveted town guy"..i don't believe this type of behaviour..however we have 24 hour to decide XD You should not edit your posts.
Korynne is a decent active player who always tries hard (see last game). No reason to start with her in my view.
Still nothing from Chez?
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On May 31 2010 02:03 LunarDestiny wrote: This is my 2nd mafia game, but I think luck is a huge factor in mafia. It is hard to judge people with almost no information. Lets hope the result of night 1 gives us something to work with.
Nah it's only for certain setups, and sometimes in the beginning.
Y'all don't make no sense. I come back after some 14 hours and nothing useful is up. Anyone have a legitimate plan? lol.
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Sleep for twelve hours, wake up, read mafia.
I think that "shoot inactive" strategies really don't hold much water in this set-up. There will be two people dying each night, and one a day, plus one wild-card if someone blows up. Point is, people will be dropping like flies.
I think we should try to run votes during each day, even though they aren't officially sanctioned. Once we get a consensus choice for whom to kill, we should nominate three people at random to take the shot. The first person who has been nominated to take the shot should do so.
I think if we play this way, we can squeeze a lot more information out of this game than we could normally. We'd get people's votes on record, and if we nominated people who couldn't shoot because their rolls prevented it, (Two blue roles, three red roles, and one (two?) black roles) then we might get some more interesting information.
In sum; - Vote during the day in the thread. - Once a consensus is reached, the first three names posted are nominated to shoot. (Or perhaps people could nominate someone with their vote?) - First person to see that they are nominated shoots.
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we should have a list of numbers from 1-20 and randomize it and use that to determine shooters. the only problem with that plan is that we need to have a list of numbers from a confirmed townie or else it could just be a list created by mafia to benefit themselves.
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Actually, if we can't PM that's fine too.
Just claim if you can hit in the main thread. I figured it would be simpler that way, but this works just as well.
Make the claim bold. I need around 80% of the players to claim right away so we can choo choo choose someone to shoot.
I can shoot
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Oh, and if you have the option wait until day to claim. There's no point to starting up the train so early if Ace is going to be changing times and shit.
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On May 30 2010 11:37 Korynne wrote: Chezinu - Didn't post here to join, so must've PM'd Ace or something? No posts.
Should be correct I think... >.<;; Is there an easier way to check when someone's last post was? xD I went through their posts and had to check all the threads that had new posts on May 30th.
Your correct. I didn't want to post in the thread before the game started because I didn't want to get shot on day one. I have finally built up the courage to post and decided not to live in fear! So here I am!
My thoughts so far: First thing I noticed besides the capability of getting shot on day one was that there are no pms this game! That means my notorious pming ability (or annoyance) is gone! Now we have to speak openly in public. I would try and use code words or create puzzles and riddles to communicate to a select few, but that has proven to fail in the past. So what shall I do then? I guess I could try playing sane like I attempted to in the past and just be honest about everything. I think it will actually work this game! Why? Because the temptation of pms are gone and I may have a gun pointed at my head.
I think everyone should be as open as possible this game and encourage one another to talk. If someone who hasn't talked in a long time starts talking, don't bash him or he might turn back to his introverted ways.
Do not believe the lies of people who question this thought process. They may approach us with question like "Do you REALLY want to chat?" I say YES WE DO!!! But don't attack these people too much for they are just lacking in understanding. We should just inform them politely and guide them into a sound mind.
If I get shot for this, please remember my words.
Just for fun:
If I was playing evil I would do this: + Show Spoiler +To prove that I will not play brown I would kill brownbear. Then go on a rampage filled with symbolic meanings that portray a distorted view and cause chaos. Tempting but I'm resisting. If I was a bomber (if there would have been one): + Show Spoiler +I would try to get permission to use brown as the codeword and pretend to make a statement about how I would be b***** this game. I would censor the word or something in order to get someone to quote me and fill in the blanl
But I will resist these paths though they are easy and fun...oh the temptation just talking about them!
I can't help myself - I need to be a little crazy here:
ROLE CLAIMING DAY ONE!!!!! I AM A TOWNIE!!!! Muaahahahah!!
But in all seriousness I started off serious.... It just to hard to play the sane game! How about a play a crazy good guy who tells the truth but in a dramatic fashion? OK, I think I will do that.
Oh yeah.. I just remember something after going crazy above, I go insane publicly when I don't have my pms to counterbalance my sanity.... so true but I can't help it so I guess I'll embrace it!
So my plan this game is the same every game: go with the flow and make up plans and change constantly throughout the game while at the same time remaining true to key values. This game the key value will be being honest.
Other games I played mad detective ( acting crazy as usual but actually having a role that I could use) , being brown (playing both sides to avoid death aka being selfish or lukewarm), then I played the crazy detective ( I tried building a town circle which kept dieing forcing me to rebuilt it - even if the circle was only semi-real . I played the brown role that game as well.. I get selfish.. This game I will try not too.. but then again I may fall into temptation...)
NOTE: Though appearing crazy, I'm telling the truth. I just have too much fun acting crazy... It is what makes this game fun for me. So please, allow me the freedom to enjoy this game with my rambles. If it annoys you... well you can skip my posts.. but then you might miss out... But if I play not to annoy certain people - this game wouldn't be fun... I may be over-analyzing this too much from other people's perspective - but I can't help it. I have already over-analyzed how I over-analyze too much and have come to the conclusion to that I can't help myself. So many thoughts about nothing and the game has only begun... I guess am ready to play now. I have my game plan (though it is never a solid plan - its more abstract... it's a more of a mindset to approaching the game..). Will now start reading other people's post. I hope you enjoy my rambles and distinct grammar for all you grammar analyst! HAVE FUN! note: there are no hidden codewords in this post unless you believe I subconsciously create them... Now I shall end my rant...must stop...(now questioning if I should even read what I wrote myself but decides not to and continues to write his stream of thoughts until he finds the ability to hit submit...then wonders if he should end the state with an ")" but forces himself to neglect it or tries to mentally but finds he is still typing...must kill Post!!!ARGHAAGAHGHD!GH
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Ace every single person, if forced, is going to wrire "I can shoot"
Mafia will pretend, SK//Bomber obviously have to although they might pretend to have a blue role and just try to stay silent for as long as possible on what that role is.
Blue roles will obvisouly have to publically say "I can shoot" or put a big sign on their heads telling the mafia who to lynch.
Basically your idea is dumb and currently I'm gonna point FoS at you for actively trying to control people do in a way which would clearly be detrimental to the town succeeding.
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Its nice to be able to play this game again...
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Lol, a "decent active player who always tries hard." xD Thanks citi.zen? xD
Also XeliN I think you don't mean Ace but someone else...seeing as Ace is running the game. xD
Remember guys we need backup shooters, because if mafia is told to shoot they will probably just type kill and then everyone else is like okay time to wait for night now and then it's like oh shit noone got killed.
Also, I think someone brought this up (I don't know if the nominating idea is the same as this) but I think we should make the two most suspicious people (as town votes them to be) kill each other. So then we can clear one suspicious person and kill one suspicious person at the same time (minus godfather, but I say we deal with that separately anyway).
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BTW: The best way to read my post is to skim them, especially where the grammar goes crazy.
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Oh rofl, i was going to write something about Red Army Mafia and Ace being a bad ace in that game when you said you were going over it, but then felt compelled to show why L is being strangely unhelpful this game.
I mean't L
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On May 31 2010 04:14 XeliN wrote: Ace every single person, if forced, is going to wrire "I can shoot"
Mafia will pretend, SK//Bomber obviously have to although they might pretend to have a blue role and just try to stay silent for as long as possible on what that role is.
Blue roles will obvisouly have to publically say "I can shoot" or put a big sign on their heads telling the mafia who to lynch.
Basically your idea is dumb and currently I'm gonna point FoS at you for actively trying to control people do in a way which would clearly be detrimental to the town succeeding. Oh wow. Did you read this post before sending it in?
1) I'm not Ace 2) Telling the mafia who to lynch? Interesting slip of the tongue. 3) Detrimental to the town succeeding? If everyone claims they can shoot, we're essentially at par with where we started.
The admitted shooter list is going to be cut into groups and forced to shoot one after the other. We aren't going to use random lists or any bullshit. Its going to be based on a number of factors which we'll have when people claim. If blues claim to be able to shoot, they'll die if they're up to shoot and can't. Similarly, if 3rd parties or goons decide to pretend and get put into the block, they'll be shot too.
A bunch of people seem really worried that the town is going to actually be organized this game, which is good. This is a very, very easy game if we kill the sk or bomberman by day 3. Without a lynch requirement there's nothing to skew voting. As long as we run a decent plan consistently, we can go straight to day 7 with a bunch of confirmed innocents.
We know how many people are going to be non-shooters. We'll know precisely how many are lying once the claims come in.
The main objective at this point in the game is to get the town to agree to follow a plan and not do dumb shit. We've already agreed pretty much that shooting non-consensus shooters will not work, so we're forced to develop a system wherein we have out hits pre-planned during the night to avoid stupidity. If the mafia GF wants me dead its as simple as breadcrumbing suspicion about me during the night, then taking a shot while going "YOU'RE TOO POWERFUL TO BE LEFT ALONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" like we have three people already doing. Even a townie who's deadset on shooting another townie will probably get away with it because our metagaming in prior games has been absolutely garbage.
Step 1: get people on the same rape train.
Step 2: Drive train into mafia headquarters, killing them all.
Step 3: Punch and pie will be served.
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heh *bad ass, i need to get my bloody brain together
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L. Explain a situation where ONE PERSON, will claim not to be able to shoot if we agree on a mass roleclaim.
Outline specifically why they would do so, how it benefits their role//the town//the mafia//the individuals.
I am essentially saying that every single person, town, mafia or blue or lone warrior, will come out as saying they can shoot. Which links neatly back to your plan being useless. Please explain otherwise.
And also explain this "It's going to be based on a number of factors which we'll have when people claim". Outline these factors.
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