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On March 21 2010 04:35 L wrote: If BC or madnessman didn't die night 3 the game was numerically over.
Thanks for not reading my post. DUH? You just have to get that last punch line out to give your ego a pat on the back don't you? Even if that means missing the point entirely.
Speaking of ego, you know why I asked your age earlier in the thread? You sound like your 16, with a huge epeen, and types ":3" like an Otaku.
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hoho lets just play a new game with no power roles!
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damn, seeing you guys lynching bm for a 3rd mislynch made me scared that you guys got 3 confirmed blues to start and were still going to lose. It was even more painful watching noone do anything with the abenson votelist from this side.
Then L posted his plan and it was over. Malongo for town mvp.
It was really interesting watching a game with the role list for the first time. I think I learned alot more than I do playing.
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On March 21 2010 04:37 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2010 04:35 L wrote: If BC or madnessman didn't die night 3 the game was numerically over. Thanks for not reading my post. DUH? You're a rage-filled donut. Did someone bite into your delicious creamy center today?
What you said was irrelevant. If you were town aligned there was ZERO reason to hold the bus back and you did, which made you pretty fucking obvious. I tossed a PM over to BC the moment you started giving me pushback.
It doesn't matter if mafia was stupid and threw away their chance at a victory. It doesn't matter if they lynched wrong.
Lets go over the scenarios together:
Starting point: If mafia don't kill a DT on night 3, they lose.
Scenario 1: You swap. Ok, good, mafia shots at our DT are redirected at their own members. We win.
Scenario 2: You're in contact with mafia and swap. I contacted you intentionally late in the night to make this possibility less workable for your collective team. You funnel a hit through the swap target and BC dies. You die shortly thereafter, probably via my non-foolishness bomb.
Scenario 3: You're not in contact with mafia and you don't swap: If mafia double hits BC, shit, we could potentially lose. If they don't, we still win.
Scenario 4: You're in contact with mafia and you don't swap: Medic soaks your hit, I laugh all the way to the bank.
So which would you pick as a townie? The one wherein you automatically win? Yeah, I'd have picked scenario 1 too.
Speaking of ego, you know why I asked your age earlier in the thread? You sound like your 16, with a huge epeen, and types ":3" like an Otaku. Rage donut is rollin' arounnnnnnnnnnnd. :3
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On March 21 2010 04:48 L wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2010 04:37 Fishball wrote:On March 21 2010 04:35 L wrote: If BC or madnessman didn't die night 3 the game was numerically over. Thanks for not reading my post. DUH? You're a rage-filled donut. Did someone bite into your delicious creamy center today? What you said was irrelevant. If you were town aligned there was ZERO reason to hold the bus back and you did, which made you pretty fucking obvious. I tossed a PM over to BC the moment you started giving me pushback. It doesn't matter if mafia was stupid and threw away their chance at a victory. It doesn't matter if they lynched wrong. Lets go over the scenarios together: Starting point: If mafia don't kill a DT on night 3, they lose. Scenario 1: You swap. Ok, good, mafia shots at our DT are redirected at their own members. We win. Scenario 2: You're in contact with mafia and swap. I contacted you intentionally late in the night to make this possibility less workable for your collective team. You funnel a hit through the swap target and BC dies. You die shortly thereafter, probably via my non-foolishness bomb. Scenario 3: You're not in contact with mafia and you don't swap: If mafia double hits BC, shit, we could potentially lose. If they don't, we still win. Scenario 4: You're in contact with mafia and you don't swap: Medic soaks your hit, I laugh all the way to the bank. So which would you pick as a townie? The one wherein you automatically win? Yeah, I'd have picked scenario 1 too. Show nested quote +Speaking of ego, you know why I asked your age earlier in the thread? You sound like your 16, with a huge epeen, and types ":3" like an Otaku. Rage donut is rollin' arounnnnnnnnnnnd. :3
Trust me, I've lost my rage years ago. The last time was probably dealing with the GLB thread. I just don't like people like you. Never did, never will. Normally when you guys creates shit storm at the beginning of every single Mafia thread, I just ignore them all.
First off, BC already know I didn't want to bus him with tree.hugger the night before. I'm not sure if you have selected memory or not, but I told you this. Read your old PMs.
Secondly, wrong, if I were townie there would be a reason why I wouldn't want to bus BC, for the exact reasons I've already listed. Let's just say if I were a Town Bus Driver I would have proposed the same thing. If you just can't understand it, that is not my problem. Even BC knows where I'm coming from.
Third, once again, what is the point of this post? We both know that town have won at that point when no DT's and Medics died, hence the DUH.
What are you trying to say? I'm dumb you're smart? L owns? etc. All the above? If you have something to say, say it. Not beat around the bush, because all that you've posted right now doesn't mean shit.
Anyways, I'm done arguing with you. I've avoided you douche bags for so many games (2 years), I should keep doing so. Feel free to have the last word and free stabs.
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Nope, isn't about ego or anything, its just to point out the difference in perspectives. I have no idea why you're going batshit insane over this, either. Calm down rage donut, your cream filling is getting sprayed all over.
The game wasn't won until the night 3 mishits. We didn't know if incog was legit, mafia might have known about the majority of our blues. We knew a few of them had fakeclaimed (lol 3 medics? serious?). There were plenty of uncertainties that we had that could have been exploited; while the rape train was about to run over the majority of their members, they still did have the bonus of having eliminated like 13 greens.
If mafia had hit a DT last night, then killed the other DT the night after without needing to double hit they would have had plenty of wiggle room to try and start up trains on moderately suspicious players. Out of the list of 10~ players we were cutting down, only 1 more would have been checked, and we would have had a potential 2 more days of missed hits if mafia did a good job in the thread which would have resulted in us losing.
Have one of them claim vig, have one of their fake medics pretend to stop a hit on a 2 hit night, etc. There's plenty that could have been done.
Third, once again, what is the point of this post? We both know that town have won at that point when no DT's and Medics died, hence the DUH.
That's kinda the entire point. If you knew the game would have been over given the results of the night, you'd have bussed if you were town. Period.
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...Ok, one more.
I already said I would NOT bus BC even if I were town, and the reason why numerous times, feel free to ignore it. You however, is saying that that's not the way how I should have done it, and I did it wrong.
So basically you are saying you are right, I am wrong, claiming superiority over me. Adding the word "period" in the end of your sentence, as an absolution, as in there are no alternatives.
...the tone you use, the thoughts you have ...and this is not about your ego right? Right.
GG Mafia XX.
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On March 21 2010 06:02 Fishball wrote: ...Ok, one more.
I already said I would NOT bus BC even if I were town, and the reason why numerous times, feel free to ignore it. You however, is saying that that's not the way how I should have done it, and I did it wrong.
So basically you are saying you are right, I am wrong, claiming superiority over me. Adding the word "period" in the end of your sentence, as an absolution, as in there are no alternatives.
...the tone you use, the thoughts you have ...and this is not about your ego right? Right.
GG Mafia XX. No, I'm saying it was a perfectly good move for you to use as mafia, but that you became pretty obvious as mafia bus once you attempted to justify the move.
You basically admit that if no DT dies that night that the game's over, then justify not protecting the DT. From the town point of view, even if you think mafia won't hit the DT, why would you take the risk if the game is won otherwise? Just seems like cognitive dissonance on your part to attempt to validate a move that outed you fairly easily.
So are you wrong? Yes. Does that mean I'm trying to suck the confidence straight out of your soul in order to enrich mine? No. It means I'm pointing out that you made a mistake. That doesn't mean I'm 'better' than you. Doesn't mean you're 'bad'. Just means you made an error. Oh well. Life goes on and rage donuts will roll again another day, potentially throwing sprinkles viciously at others to dissuade them from biting down on their soft, tender rage based cream filling.
You're incredibly defensive, which was another of the reasons that our conversation last night made you pretty obvious. If you were town bus, would you really be flipping me off in pms when I'm obviously joking with you? Get over yourself. I don't give a shit if it was you or Ace or Ver or Qatol or Vivi or Scamp or whomever. The move you pulled was illogical from the town perspective.
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Can you guys just cut the pretence, lube up and rent a room together.
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you know, even for getting autolynched, this game was totally worth it seeing L rage out for the next few days :D would've been more baller if i was the VI though. lol
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Don't you see we are repeating this over and over, like for the 5th time or something?
Besides the part where I said I would have done the exact same even if I was a townie, and BC sharing my point of view, - I guess you missed the part that I was planning to announce I am the Red Bus Driver, so no I didn't care. You can ask flames, or even BC at the end. It was my plan from the beginning as soon as I used up my powers. - I never believed BC would go unattended. I'm fully aware of you guys were suspicious of me since Iaan brought me up. Hence in my other post, I said I only base my actions on my own information that I know is real. - I flipped you because I don't like you. You were joking? This is the internet, how could I tell? Regardless it wouldn't change my actions. Also like mentioned before, I never did like you and never will. - You say No, I say Yes. Repeat x infinity. Ok.
As you can see, all of this stuff I just said was ALREADY written. If you can't read carefully or comprehend all the information together, then I give up. I don't want to be quoting myself like five times in every post.
Side note, you say this is not about your ego. You might "think" so yourself, but your conscious says otherwise. A lot of different players, in different games have already pointed out that you use a commanding-I-am-right tone. That's your play style, I have no say on it, as I have my own style, but don't try to deny it when I'm pointing right at it.
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On March 21 2010 06:29 Fishball wrote: Don't you see we are repeating this over and over, like for the 5th time or something?
Besides the part where I said I would have done the exact same even if I was a townie, and BC sharing my point of view, - I guess you missed the part that I was planning to announce I am the Red Bus Driver, so no I didn't care. You can ask flames, or even BC at the end. It was my plan from the beginning as soon as I used up my powers. - I never believed BC would go unattended. I'm fully aware of you guys were suspicious of me since Iaan brought me up. Hence in my other post, I said I only base my actions on my own information that I know is real. - I flipped you because I don't like you. You were joking? This is the internet, how could I tell? Regardless it wouldn't change my actions. Also like mentioned before, I never did like you and never will. - You say No, I say Yes. Repeat x infinity. Ok.
As you can see, all of this stuff I just said was ALREADY written. If you can't read carefully or comprehend all the information together, then I give up. I don't want to be quoting myself like five times in every post.
Side note, you say this is not about your ego. You might "think" so yourself, but your conscious says otherwise. A lot of different players, in different games have already pointed out that you use a commanding-I-am-right tone. That's your play style, I have no say on it, as I have my own style, but don't try to deny it when I'm pointing right at it. Are you really that crabby that you got found out for a stupid move? Relax buddy. Donuts don't have a central nervous system, so you shouldn't have any anxiety at all. I'm sorry that my ability to be confident in myself makes you feel like I'm towering over you.
Your 'reasons' aren't reasons. They don't make sense. Winning the game makes all of them irrelevant from a town point of view. Since you weren't actually thinking about things from a town point of view its pretty obvious how you'd miss the 'take the obvious win' option.
In future instances when someone does something dumb I'll tell them that they are actually:
1) Special
2) Unique
3) A special and unique butterfly
That'll totally help them out.
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On March 21 2010 06:39 L wrote: Your 'reasons' aren't reasons. They don't make sense. Winning the game makes all of them irrelevant from a town point of view. Since you weren't actually thinking about things from a town point of view its pretty obvious how you'd miss the 'take the obvious win' option.
Now you're just twisting words. Wow, lol.
...Forget it, I'm going for lunch.
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No i'm not. Try not to cry all over your pastrami on rye.
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On March 19 2010 12:57 Incognito wrote: Regardless I still stand by the idea that you just don't announce your DT checks even if you're elected. WTF is this? Earlier in the game you post a DT list, which is pretty much declaring DT checks - and now you "stand by the idea" that you DON'T announce your DT checks? The game's over...but I still have to point this out.
And don't get me wrong. I have nothing personal against you. In fact I think it's great that you host games and play in them. It's also my hope that you don't have any particular grudge against me for losing all interest in your second hosted game. However, it's just that your ideas were so all over the board (and poor) all game, and I need to point them out.
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Also - no need for everyone to get all riled up by each other now that the game's over... wow at the emotions running through the thread.
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Oh, over already? lol Well yea it was looking pretty bad
And thanks for hosting this game flamewheel!
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arrrghhhhhhh my flight got cancelled
but at least i came back to see that town won -_-
You sound like your 16, with a huge epeen, and types ":3" like an Otaku.
haha omg i lol'd. but L, dont u get embarrassed repeatedly pushing for lynches of innocent townies?? i know i would. how old is quatol btw?
On March 21 2010 01:39 XeliN wrote: Was clever swapping Bloody for someone Incog, I was under the impression that you had used your abilities already and we almost double hit him last night, I suggested either that or hitting L, Iaaan or Madnessman (After my semi fake post about being upset with bloody//incog for taking over he wrote "shit I feel bad now" which kinda said he was blue)
lol. how does that indicate that i'm blue? i was only saying that because of these pm's from bm:
very good post. if you're green, great. if you're red, i applaud you for it even more. would you defend me, or give me advice on how to defend myself? i really am green. you seem smart enough to realize this.
any chance you'd consider changing your vote? like if u changed to xelin he would have 5 and i'd have 7 .. only problem is he told me he's green and i believe him so it's like ehhh... i don't know if i want to sacrifice someone who is nice to me. im not that kinda person. foolishness has been pming me a lot and he's kinda suspicious... he implied he's blue, but i don't believe him.
i gotta say bm was actually pretty spot on for the majority of his guesses. if he didnt have such flawed logic at times and fling accusations almost everywhere, he could have pretty much won this game from us LOL.
anyways, off to try and get another flight. gg all, thanks for hosting this flamewheel
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