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madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
March 20 2010 23:38 GMT
#1481
oh, and xelin, you baller. i totally thought you were innocent townie.
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 21 2010 00:08 GMT
#1482
Heh thanks, tried to do a good job of coming across as innocent whilst intentionally walking the tightrope line of suspicion.

Foolishness took over most of the mafia business so I mostly focused on this.
Adonai bless
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 21 2010 00:24 GMT
#1483
On March 21 2010 08:37 madnessman wrote:
i gotta say bm was actually pretty spot on for the majority of his guesses.

Totally disagree. He made so many guesses that some of them were bound to be correct. He made so many "person x is probably green" and "person x is probably red" style posts, if anyone bothered to count them up we'd see that his success rate was unspectacular.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 21 2010 00:24 GMT
#1484
haha omg i lol'd. but L, dont u get embarrassed repeatedly pushing for lynches of innocent townies?? i know i would. how old is quatol btw?
Gotta break eggs to make an omelet.

In this case, I had to kill him due to pre-game goal.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 00:48:16
March 21 2010 00:45 GMT
#1485
I'll host the next game, and I think Zona is hosting one too. My game won't be standard though as I just don't trust most people here to play well in that kind of setup (see this game for reference).


@L: the fact that no matter what the game setup is and you repeatedly do push for innocent lynches is exactly why people call you blind. Your whole style revolves around killing everyone for information and then the town loses because of it. It's just a bad idea all around. You also don't read people's posts and just like to twist words. Look at Fishball's posts at the end of this game and Versatile during the game. They have legit points and imo they are correct. You just want to appear smarter than they do when in fact, you are so off the wall no one can tell if you just troll them or read a totally different post than we did ^_^.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 01:37:40
March 21 2010 01:37 GMT
#1486
On March 21 2010 09:45 Ace wrote:
I'll host the next game, and I think Zona is hosting one too. My game won't be standard though as I just don't trust most people here to play well in that kind of setup (see this game for reference).


@L: the fact that no matter what the game setup is and you repeatedly do push for innocent lynches is exactly why people call you blind. Your whole style revolves around killing everyone for information and then the town loses because of it. It's just a bad idea all around. You also don't read people's posts and just like to twist words. Look at Fishball's posts at the end of this game and Versatile during the game. They have legit points and imo they are correct. You just want to appear smarter than they do when in fact, you are so off the wall no one can tell if you just troll them or read a totally different post than we did ^_^.


As I said before, I now think L's "playing style" is perfectly OK. It does come more naturally to some people than others, but in the end the "good" players in repeated games often make bad arguments or behave inconsistently. All that means is that "catching" him next time he is red will not be easy: playing like crap and lynching greens would be "consistent".
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 21 2010 01:37 GMT
#1487
Town won because of it. Sup.

Angry I kill you every game? :3
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
March 21 2010 01:51 GMT
#1488
Flame, as fun as this was. Way to many blue roles.

When I flipped DT, and incog and L were confirmed as a bus driver and Hatter. I figured there would be one more blue at most (prob vet or second driver).

Having two dts, a med and a vet, and multiple drivers was just too much for this.

Mafia had to many things that could prevent night hits whereas town had equal KP in one night as mafia.

Was still fun, but way to many blues were in this game.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 21 2010 01:54 GMT
#1489
Fairly high so feel the need to make useless posts but wanted to say BloodyCobbler really seems good at this game, remember early on he very quickly called me out as being mafia and although his main argument at the time seemed to be based on just his impression I remember thinking it was impressive, would get my nomination for best player this game.

As other people have mentioned L's attitude as well i'll agree, think you need to be less forceful//antagonistic
Adonai bless
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 21 2010 01:54 GMT
#1490
Lol when i typed that BC hadn't posted, no brown nosing I assure thee.
Adonai bless
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 21 2010 01:56 GMT
#1491
On March 21 2010 10:37 citi.zen wrote:
As I said before, I now think L's "playing style" is perfectly OK. It does come more naturally to some people than others, but in the end the "good" players in repeated games often make bad arguments or behave inconsistently. All that means is that "catching" him next time he is red will not be easy: playing like crap and lynching greens would be "consistent".


I disagree. I stated this before, but I think that if a player who is town in a game makes bad arguments or is not being helpful in general to aid his or her chances as a mafia member in future games is not a show of skill, but instead shows a lack of skill, because this player is not confident in his or her ability to be helpful and appear town-like in a game as mafia.
The player is essentially hurting the town (and his/her) chances to win when playing as a member of the town only to help his/her chances to win when playing as a member of the mafia.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
March 21 2010 01:58 GMT
#1492
On March 21 2010 10:54 XeliN wrote:
Fairly high so feel the need to make useless posts but wanted to say BloodyCobbler really seems good at this game, remember early on he very quickly called me out as being mafia and although his main argument at the time seemed to be based on just his impression I remember thinking it was impressive, would get my nomination for best player this game.

As other people have mentioned L's attitude as well i'll agree, think you need to be less forceful//antagonistic


I also kept trying to get people to bus me onto tree.hugger since i just "felt" he was red.

Incog and I had 10f as some form of non green role for awhile, but we were unsure of if he was medic like the claim we got.

Foolishness was a "well we know he posts later in the game" so got a few days of leeway, then he made some pretty odd posts and vanished, so he got a bomb on him, then he claimed medic and basically offered himself up on the "lets get lynched" train.

All I did this game really though was make a list and as I checked people, or they died I put them on a list, and slowly narrowed the list of what people I didnt have confirmed, and those I did. As you can see, end of day 3, 8 names, and knew have were mafia. Not to bad for a day 3 go :p
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
March 21 2010 01:59 GMT
#1493
On March 21 2010 10:54 XeliN wrote:
Fairly high so feel the need to make useless posts but wanted to say BloodyCobbler really seems good at this game, remember early on he very quickly called me out as being mafia and although his main argument at the time seemed to be based on just his impression I remember thinking it was impressive, would get my nomination for best player this game.

As other people have mentioned L's attitude as well i'll agree, think you need to be less forceful//antagonistic


You were on my list almost the entire game :p
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 21 2010 02:00 GMT
#1494
Just out of interest what was your opinion on me later on in the game after i tried harder to come across as town?
Adonai bless
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 21 2010 02:05 GMT
#1495
lol again post before you, pre-empive question answering is a nice talent toi have
Adonai bless
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
March 21 2010 02:08 GMT
#1496
On March 21 2010 11:00 XeliN wrote:
Just out of interest what was your opinion on me later on in the game after i tried harder to come across as town?


I still had you as red. I was originally checking you last night till L messaged me at like the last second to swap to opz.

you just put yourself out to early on a radar. I also had dubbed anyone trying to really criticize me on day two on legitmacy of being a dt a idiot. (I'll go more into this). Then you were "vocal" but primarily in defending Bm to a degree and going after me. :p as such I figured you more as red since you would want me offed more than anyone else would.

However, I am surprised that you guys didn't try to sacrifice someone to off me day 1. Soon as I claimed DT, one of your team should have jumped up and down to try and discredit me then. It would have gotten a few people from the town on board as well and possibly prevented me from getting elected, or caused enough doubt day 2 or 3 to get me killed. Letting the claim go unchallenged was so terrible, especially bad as both L and I claimed day 1. He was pushed for not claiming his specific role, while I was left alone. Also, anyone should have realized that his style of posting was begging to be hit and had him pegged as hatter/vet, then as soon as he offered to get lynched should have put him instantly down as hatter.

Overall this game, you guys as mafia were too complacent.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
March 21 2010 02:10 GMT
#1497
On March 21 2010 10:56 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2010 10:37 citi.zen wrote:
As I said before, I now think L's "playing style" is perfectly OK. It does come more naturally to some people than others, but in the end the "good" players in repeated games often make bad arguments or behave inconsistently. All that means is that "catching" him next time he is red will not be easy: playing like crap and lynching greens would be "consistent".


I disagree. I stated this before, but I think that if a player who is town in a game makes bad arguments or is not being helpful in general to aid his or her chances as a mafia member in future games is not a show of skill, but instead shows a lack of skill, because this player is not confident in his or her ability to be helpful and appear town-like in a game as mafia.
The player is essentially hurting the town (and his/her) chances to win when playing as a member of the town only to help his/her chances to win when playing as a member of the mafia.

Perhaps we agree after all :-)
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
March 21 2010 02:10 GMT
#1498
On March 21 2010 11:05 XeliN wrote:
lol again post before you, pre-empive question answering is a nice talent toi have


haha. I guess :p.

Please also note, that most of what I ignored for responses to most posts is really because the answers were already stated, or just not needed. I know I should have led more actively. But realistically with this format, all I had to do was say "wait for me to finish my checks" and the longer i was protected, the easier it was to destroy. Game was way to town favoured.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 21 2010 02:11 GMT
#1499
Yeh I agree, that was our biggest mistake this game allowing you into office unopposed, ah well huge thanks to Flamewheel for consistently helping//hosting mafia games you do a really good job, enjoyed this game alot was a big learning curve having never been mafia before.
Adonai bless
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 21 2010 02:13 GMT
#1500
Felt pretty guilty in regards to BM, we even played games on iccup together and were chatting together about the game, felt like an evil manipulator xD
Adonai bless
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