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On March 21 2010 13:32 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2010 13:15 L wrote:On March 21 2010 13:05 Ace wrote:On March 21 2010 10:56 Zona wrote:On March 21 2010 10:37 citi.zen wrote:
As I said before, I now think L's "playing style" is perfectly OK. It does come more naturally to some people than others, but in the end the "good" players in repeated games often make bad arguments or behave inconsistently. All that means is that "catching" him next time he is red will not be easy: playing like crap and lynching greens would be "consistent". I disagree. I stated this before, but I think that if a player who is town in a game makes bad arguments or is not being helpful in general to aid his or her chances as a mafia member in future games is not a show of skill, but instead shows a lack of skill, because this player is not confident in his or her ability to be helpful and appear town-like in a game as mafia. The player is essentially hurting the town (and his/her) chances to win when playing as a member of the town only to help his/her chances to win when playing as a member of the mafia. this. It's also why I say it's a good idea to lynch players like BM and Vivi early on because if left alive, they WILL make the town lose. And if they're mafia they play the exact same way as if they're town: Inconsistently and illogically. Its like some kind of braindead super-armor. Brain dead super armor...Lol... L and Ace agreed too. Hahaha
Rolf.
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On March 21 2010 01:39 XeliN wrote:
Was clever swapping Bloody for someone Incog, I was under the impression that you had used your abilities already and we almost double hit him last night, I suggested either that or hitting L, Iaaan or Madnessman (After my semi fake post about being upset with bloody//incog for taking over he wrote "shit I feel bad now" which kinda said he was blue)
Boo  I hoped you would have hit BC and killed yourselves !
On March 21 2010 07:27 Zona wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2010 12:57 Incognito wrote:
Regardless I still stand by the idea that you just don't announce your DT checks even if you're elected. WTF is this? Earlier in the game you post a DT list, which is pretty much declaring DT checks - and now you "stand by the idea" that you DON'T announce your DT checks? The game's over...but I still have to point this out. And don't get me wrong. I have nothing personal against you. In fact I think it's great that you host games and play in them. It's also my hope that you don't have any particular grudge against me for losing all interest in your second hosted game. However, it's just that your ideas were so all over the board (and poor) all game, and I need to point them out.
Like I said before, I posted this to try to confuse the mafia bus. That is all. I already knew BC was DT, and since I assumed there was only 1 DT, I figured we already controlled the DT check and all we had to do was make sure the mafia bus didn't mess with it. Which is why we had the list. I still stand by the medic list though. In perspective I thought it was reasonably decent. Nice of you to come out posting about the list though. Before then I wasn't sure of your alignment.
On March 21 2010 11:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2010 11:00 XeliN wrote:
Just out of interest what was your opinion on me later on in the game after i tried harder to come across as town? I still had you as red. I was originally checking you last night till L messaged me at like the last second to swap to opz.
Dang it if I were here I would have sent you my ~OpZ~ pms. He was innocent to me after he came out and started pming me.
On March 21 2010 13:38 johnnyspazz wrote:
incognito, do you think you will have an archive for every game you participate in?
I would like to, but it seems as if people miss out on updating so I have to go through the thread the old fashioned way anyway. It would be nice if there was a program that automatically compiled the posts but meh. With all the antagonism against it I probably won't do it anymore.
Anyway two more thoughts:
Even with BM's lynch and the BGs dead I still think town had an advantage. Especially since I bluffed with my second bus. Which btw brings me to the point that a two shot (town) bus driver actually can have 3 shots if used properly, while a two shot mafia bus driver only really does have two shots (mafia driver gains nothing by bluffing the swap, while town driver does: i.e. to confirm innocents. Actually, if I were thinking on day 1 instead of trying to get BC/L/me semi-confirmed we would have ended up with 3 confirmed innocents on day 1). Anyway, mafia couldn't really kill BC day 3 since I had a hidden bus left. It wouldn't matter if I died because then BC could explain everything. I'm kinda disappointed BC/L weren't more coordinated with stopping Fishball from swapping BC/tree.hugger, since I did that myself within minutes of the night post. Either way, we were prepared to carpet bomb the Abenson vote list on day 4, as L posted in thread. Given that we had 2 bombs + driver + a DL + 2 RCs, we could have eliminated that list in one day, netting us 3 mafia (GF included).
d3_crescentia <--Got the feeling he was green after he popped up and defended himself after I posted
Foolishness
XeliN
citi.zen <--Claimed blue (I also had him innocent early in the game, sad that L chose to bomb him )
tree.hugger
Bill Murray <-- Dead Day 3
nemY
I was also leaning toward d3 being innocent and apparently citi.zen claimed to BC, so that left us with a pretty narrow pool.
Also last point thanks flamewheel91 for hosting the game. I'm still curious though, did you get any advice on balance or check it with someone?
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nemY had already claimed medic to me at that point and he immediately told me his protection history, unlike the other two, which crossed him off the list in my mind.
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On March 22 2010 11:02 Incognito wrote:
Also last point thanks flamewheel91 for hosting the game. I'm still curious though, did you get any advice on balance or check it with someone?
He and I talked through the balance a little, but I was pretty busy, so I can't say I helped very much. I DID keep him from adding a vigi to the game though. I don't believe he talked to anyone else?
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Oh, I'd like to mention that I was pretty impressed by this. BM PMed me a little after he died:
From: Bill Murray [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Re:
Date: 3/19/10 12:41
gonna go with
l10f
foolishness
xelin
Though I'm confused about why you didn't actually talk through your reasoning in the thread about this, considering your entire list was mafia....
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On March 22 2010 11:45 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2010 11:02 Incognito wrote:
Also last point thanks flamewheel91 for hosting the game. I'm still curious though, did you get any advice on balance or check it with someone? He and I talked through the balance a little, but I was pretty busy, so I can't say I helped very much. I DID keep him from adding a vigi to the game though. I don't believe he talked to anyone else?
I love you Qatol. And no, nobody else since you're just that cool.
Hopefully now my PM box goes back to normal...
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On March 22 2010 12:19 flamewheel91 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2010 11:45 Qatol wrote:On March 22 2010 11:02 Incognito wrote:
Also last point thanks flamewheel91 for hosting the game. I'm still curious though, did you get any advice on balance or check it with someone? He and I talked through the balance a little, but I was pretty busy, so I can't say I helped very much. I DID keep him from adding a vigi to the game though. I don't believe he talked to anyone else? I love you Qatol. And no, nobody else since you're just that cool. Hopefully now my PM box goes back to normal...
You're making dreamflower jealous! But your PM box will never go back to normal!
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yeah don't worry; i'll pm you!
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