EPTlooks like his swaps were weird
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johnnyspazz
Taiwan1470 Posts
looks like his swaps were weird | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
second swap not so much  Also as a funny note. Fishball told me who he swapped in his first use (he lied about it), then foolishness claimed to have protected zona, so said he had to have been bus'd. We instantly knew one was either red or mafia bus driver. Good times :p We also knew the 4 remaining mafia (provided neither L or I was gf) was in the following list as of last night versatile tree.hugger nemy sidesprang xelin foolishness iaaan l10f | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On March 16 2010 10:39 l10f wrote: Are you serious? BC and incog are the two of the last people I would suspect to be mafia. they both suspected Malongo, and even got a lot of people to vote for him. I would suspect those who voted for abenson after BC changed his vote to Malongo. That means they were trying to make sure Abenson gets lynched so Malongo could be saved. This was the post. Versatile responded to it and I looked at it and was like this post is really odd. Just didn't fit right. | ||
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haster27
Taiwan809 Posts
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L
Canada4732 Posts
Fishball was trying to justify not hitting BC and Foolishness claimed medic, so I told him to protect me AND told other people about that. If Mafia moved in on either BC or I we had them pretty much confirmed as liars. Between the 2 double lynches and my bombs, we were going to pretty much clean the list that BC put up, and after foolishness' death we woulda had 2 medics out of suspicion. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On March 21 2010 02:23 L wrote: Yeah, when the last hit came up 2 greens we were like "lol, game's over". Fishball was trying to justify not hitting BC and Foolishness claimed medic, so I told him to protect me AND told other people about that. If Mafia moved in on either BC or I we had them pretty much confirmed as liars. Between the 2 double lynches and my bombs, we were going to pretty much clean the list that BC put up, and after foolishness' death we woulda had 2 medics out of suspicion. No, I was actually predicting the moves of the Mafia. I told you and BC saying they will not hit L, Incognito, or BC, and I was right, at least HALF right due to mafia hitting dumb targets (will explain in other post). This has nothing to do with my alignment, and was just solely prediction. You do realize I could have lied to you from the get-go when you asked me to bus BC and Tree.hugger, I can tell you "ok, will do" but not do it. There won't be a conversation at all then. Still typing up my long post. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
Succeeding on killing him adds to my achievements. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On March 21 2010 02:32 Fishball wrote: No, I was actually predicting the moves of the Mafia. I told you and BC saying they will not hit L, Incognito, or BC, and I was right, at least HALF right due to mafia hitting dumb targets (will explain in other post). This has nothing to do with my alignment, and was just solely prediction. You do realize I could have lied to you from the get-go when you asked me to bus BC and Tree.hugger, I can tell you "ok, will do" but not do it. There won't be a conversation at all then. Still typing up my long post. You predicted they would put themselves into a dead-end situation? We had a tiny list they could be on. With double lynch and 2 more DT checks, the amount that they would have undiscovered drops by 4 per night. With bombs we have another 1 time shot of 2. If they didn't move on our DTs that night, we would have won. And then we won. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
I predicted that they will not hit you three, but not the part where they choose dumb targets. Why am I repeating myself when I just said this above? | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On the plus side, though, even if they tried to hit him, you bussed him anyways. I also lied to you and put another medic on BC because I figured you were mafia bus. :3 | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
I was going to make an announcement declaring my role and whatever left of information after the voting ends tomorrow, but I guess that won't be needed anymore. This is what happened from a blinded Bus Driver perspective. Just FYI, I never got in contact with any Mafia. Just as usual, at the start of the game I MSN BC and tell him he is a Mafia, he would accuses me back and we exchange pleasantries, etc. After a while he randomly says he is a DT, of course I won't believe him right off the bat, but that was the RC. Day 2 - Mafia hit Fulgrim and Vivi57. I was surprised to see Vivi57 die first, but overall, no comment. Day 3 - After going through the entire player list, I thought d3_crescentia might get hit that night. He was lurking and laying low, but was not brought up for accusations much. This would look suspicious to the Mafia. Zona was an active poster, and most importantly, a Bodyguard. There is a chance that the Medic would protect him. I swapped them, and told BC I swapped myself and Bill Murray. At this point I have already spoken out on MSN many times, and later in the thread, how much I hated BM and wants him to die. 60% was true, and the rest was for setup. We lynched BM without problem on Night 3. Night 3 to Day 4 - Recent. At this point there were no Bodyguards left, and only a single Medic for protection. On a day to day basis, I always check the thread to see who accused who, especially who L, Incognito, and BC accused, as well as checking who have posted what. If you add them all up, you have a good indicator of who has a role/is part of the circle, and who isn't. As all of you know, the circle were able to get in contact with the 2nd DT and Medic fairly early on in the game. Using the method I explained above, there are only 3 candidates that fit in this category. sidesprang, Nemy, and madnessman. Guess what, Nemy is the Medic and madnessman is the DT. My swapping candidates were among these three. To me, sidesprang was similar to d3_crescentia. He has not been posting at all, and when compared to Nemy and madnessman, the other two have made pro-town posts. Carrying over the same sentiment of the previous swap, for consistency sake, I choose to use sidesprang as a stepping stone to kill madnessman. Good ending like the previous swap? Not so much. That's why after the Night post I cussed at the Mafia. d3_crescentia was already swapped once. Me and Mafia both knows he is town aligned. At this point of the game, we can safely argue ALL the blue roles were claimed, but d3_crescentia was still brought up as a suspect. It isn't hard to tell he is just a green, but the Mafia choose to hit him. As for johnnyspazz, I'm also missing the point of killing him. He hasn't been posting much at the beginning but a lot more in the last couple of days. His posts usually have no content. He was also brought up a few times for accusations. If I were red, johnnyspazz would either be a Townie, or a Veteran trying to draw fire. This is what I told L and BC, regarding how the Mafia might hit the town during Night 3. - L is the Hatter, no one with the right mind would or should hit him. - Incognito is an empty Bus Driver (as they claimed). BC said they could kill him for his pardon powers, but I argued that that would be pointless, as the four Mafia members could never single handily bandwagon a lynch candidate, let alone for Town to go as far as to lynch a legit Townie, legit enough that Incognito would have to use his powers. - BC is the publicly claimed DT, the obvious choice of Medic protection. That leaves the Mafia with a couple options; Either stack both hits on BC, or try to hit blues. There is a threat that the remaining Bus Driver, me (they don't know my alignment), would swap BC for someone else. In fact L and BC both have asked me to swap BC and tree.hugger. To me, the obvious choice would be to try and snipe blues, which includes the chance of hitting the second DT and Medic, as well as bringing down the townie count faster rather than just killing one. Based on this assumption, it would be the second reason why I made the swap between sidesprang and madnessman. We all know what happened then. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On March 21 2010 02:58 L wrote: Well, unless they knew who madnessman was, it was pretty irrelevant who else they could possibly hit; including the medics. On the plus side, though, even if they tried to hit him, you bussed him anyways. I also lied to you and put another medic on BC because I figured you were mafia bus. :3 It is irrelevant that you "lied" to me, because I never carried out what was requested. I only base my actions on the information that I know can be trusted. If you "attempting" to lie to me gives you a sense of achievement, that is quite... childish. I'm glad we don't share the same sentiment. | ||
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sidesprang
Norway1033 Posts
Anyhow im sorry i was so inactive. Alot of shit came up, and since i just got bashed when i used excuses before, i just kept quiet. Well played to our leaders i guess. And im glad you used the bussdriver power on me, if not i would have been gone for sure | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On March 21 2010 03:34 Fishball wrote: It is irrelevant that you "lied" to me, because I never carried out what was requested. I only base my actions on the information that I know can be trusted. If you "attempting" to lie to me gives you a sense of achievement, that is quite... childish. I'm glad we don't share the same sentiment. Woulda been relevant if you had contacted their team. By telling you that they had no protection on BC other than you hitting him woulda been a pretty balls to the wall homerun choice. SEE THE TRAPS?!!!?! TRAPS EVERYWHEREEEEEEEEE. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On March 21 2010 04:07 L wrote: Woulda been relevant if you had contacted their team. By telling you that they had no protection on BC other than you hitting him woulda been a pretty balls to the wall homerun choice. SEE THE TRAPS?!!!?! TRAPS EVERYWHEREEEEEEEEE. You do not make sense. Me contacting the Mafia, telling them that BC would have no protection? Even Bill Murray wouldn't be dumb enough to pull this move. Read the long post. If you fail at reading, let me sum it up for you. I never thought BC would go down in Night 3. So again, your post doesn't make sense. Unless you are just posting gibberish... | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
One thing that me and johnnyspazz have already brought up. You have to get your facts straight before debating (keyword: debate, not flame war like L's) with someone, or your credibility will get shot to hell, and it would make you look like you're just pulling shit out of your arse. You are convincing nobody and makes you look suspicious. You also told me to role claim in the thread, as well as the circle to share all the roles they have. Who the hell would do that, are you crazy? I could understand it would be rather boring and shitty if you're a green and on your own, but if you want people to share information publicly based on this reason, people will think you are either dumb, or mafia. You are not helping town. Another thing to add is, at that point of the game when you started posting, "the circle" already controlled all the crucial rules, and have 2 DT's checking the remaining few suspects. Now you start to "step up" and start posting lists and such of your own. Keep in mind you do not have the resources and information that the main town group already posses. You're pretty much just beating around the bush randomly and alone at this point, which is pointless. Hence BC's comment I posted, and the reason why I told you to slow down and think about it. I'm not telling you how you should play your game, but at least you should be aware of these things. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On March 21 2010 04:11 Fishball wrote: You do not make sense. Me contacting the Mafia, telling them that BC would have no protection? Even Bill Murray wouldn't be dumb enough to pull this move. Read the long post. If you fail at reading, let me sum it up for you. I never thought BC would go down in Night 3. So again, your post doesn't make sense. Unless you are just posting gibberish... You're assuming I knew you weren't in contact with the mafia. How could I know that? You were going around claiming unsided bus for a while, which is retarded. Why would you claim that over town bus? The moment someone who was mafia got a whiff of that it should have been easy to establish contact. So let me sum it up for you: If BC or madnessman didn't die night 3 the game was numerically over. | ||
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