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wait I randomly got flamed? hahahaha awesome 
I'm so fucking famous.
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Glad to see Sen make it through although Ret is pure class. Obviously Ret will take TSL3
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lol sherlock keeps it real
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some people really shouldn't have access to the internet, keeps on amazing me how some people can separate how they act in real life and how they act on forums to such a degree just because they cant be held accountable.
On topic though, this round of TSL broke my soul 
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bahahaha epic last page of posts
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On February 14 2010 15:32 Julmust wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 11:53 ArvickHero wrote:On February 14 2010 11:40 On_Slaught wrote:On February 14 2010 10:53 Highways wrote:
Reinforces that ZvZ is a disgrace of a matchup.
No wonder top Zerg players are getting zvz sniped in Winners League. I agree. With the way ZvZ is played nowindays, it's not longer any real indicator of who the better player is. Having said that, Rets response to lings was poor in pretty much every game. I disagree. You guys are all just butt-hurt that Ret got outplayed. I fully agree with that, I mean lets have a look at how ret has lost ZvZ's in TSL: Castro: one loss - too greedy/not enough lings sen: first loss - too greedy/not enough lings second loss - too greedy/not enough lings third loss - too greedy/not enough lings I mean at some point he has to stop, think for a second and go "oh he knows my weak spot is that I tend to make too few lings, I should just make a shitload of lings this game so he cant break me and then go into the muta-battle where I'll have to upper hand". That's rets problem in a way, he has only played koreans in ZvZ. they often dont get like two controlgroups of lings and break right before mutas, they want it to go to mutas since they can micro like no one else. So it basically comes down to lack of experiance on rets part.
Yeah, and not even just that. Ret played all the games quite stupidly. Without scouting information, especially if expanding, it's very natural and normal to build almost purely lings. You don't just drone up without scouting information, you make only lings and a single drone here and there, maybe.(Especially against foreigners). Even if your opponent isn't making many lings to attack you, you can still use your lings to attack so it doesn't really hurt you that much, especially against foreigners.
I don't understand how a player can be that greedy in every game and not learn after the first time he makes the mistake. Ret definitely deserved to lose the series because he seemed to heavily lack common sense and adaptability. In fact, I don't understand what he was thinking or trying to do, at all.
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Just wow... I don't really respect people that feel fine with invading someones privacy with such ease//self righteous beliefs in doing so but I suspect Hunter may have learnt a valuable lesson
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On February 14 2010 18:58 XeliN wrote:
Just wow... I don't really respect people that feel fine with invading someones privacy with such ease//self righteous beliefs in doing so but I suspect Hunter may have learnt a valuable lesson
Is it an invasion when the information was all publicly obtained?
I'd love for this guys friends and coworkers to see how much of an idiot he is when he thinks he's anonymous. He's more a threat to himself than any stupid spam.
Games were really fun to watch today, really impressed with fenix's play. If only the marines had been next to the bunker =((
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not neccesarily the info he posted (although i would call the way it was done and its purpose invasive) but what he was threatening to do, that certainly would be.
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Bearded Elder29902 Posts
Easy 6 liquibet points :D
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On February 14 2010 16:40 Sherlock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 15:19 HuntingX wrote:
A few major points to throw out there:
1. Day9 is the biggest douche in the history of the world. Seriously. If you take one of his vids, show it to a non-sc fan, he'll think douche. Show it to a 30-40 year old who doesn't understand internet lingo, he'll still say douche. Show it to a 8-12 year old that watches Hannah Montana, douche. If babyboomers knew the word douche they'd categorize Day9 as a douche. It must *suck* having a face that resembles a female organ cleaner, but maybe that explains the nonstop piss that comes out of his mindnumbingly ridiculous mouth.
2. Ret is an overly chubby fail. $5000 and years into a game that the rest of the world has left behind, he can't even beat some retired player. I don't really care how good Sen was 3 years ago; he's not good now. He octzerged Ret to death, while Ret was floating his balls over Sen's face and still failing to stick his cock in. He practiced all that ZvZ, for what, to learn how to die to C- all-in ling attacks? It doesn't take a lot of practice to die to lings; I could do that! I don't need to watch televised cock-sucking while some fat Dutchman gets hammered in the rear.
The statements by incontrol (AKA lose in the first round of every tournament that's ever been made -> har har har fatass) that the foreigner scene is catching up to the pro-gaming scene are being shown as false as his attempts to portray himself as some sort of competitive gamer. NEWS FLASH: you aren't competitive if you're a 30 year old fatass who can't pay the bills because you LOSE IN THE FIRST ROUND OF ALL YOUR TOURNAMENTS. Ret has 1 up on InControl, he loses in the 2nd and 3rd round instead.
WAY TO BE WINNERS GUYS. "HuntingX" googles to "Clark Guo" which facebooks to this guy: ![[image loading]](http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/305/n35010284569.jpg) ur from providence, rhode island, u graduated caltech and BU, impressive u work for minimax consulting, its facebook group is easily found, lots of nice coworkers company website is shitty, but ur profile is there: http://www.minimaxconsulting.com/_ourPicturesAndBios.htmShow nested quote +Clark joined Minimax as an Associate Quantitative Analyst after receiving his MS in Economics from Boston University. Prior to that, he received his BS from Caltech in both Mathematics and Economics. Clark is a member in good standing of the American Statistical Association. He was first promoted to Assistant Director of Quantitative Research, before taking on his new position as Director of Academic Research and Head of Econometrics. His main research interests lie in financial modeling, computational efficiency methodology, R-stats programming, and statistical arbitrage. He is also an avid chess player. heres u again: ![[image loading]](http://www.minimaxconsulting.com/imagenes/imagenes_aboutUs/cguo_220.jpg) ur 24 yrs old, u have a professional job, and u post like this? calling young gamers fat and day9 douchebag? look at u. u ugly as fuck. and i can ruin ur life with mass goatse emails to all ur coworkers and fb friends using clarkguo002@email.com. don't post like a douche on a forum then easily have contact info there, clark.
I'm gonna call double troll on this. I think both of these users were the same person screwing with us. I say this because I'm almost positive I saw the exact same situation a while ago on TL, where a guy makes a ridiculous bm/flame post, then someone responded with pics of that same asian guy who graduated from caltech saying "i found you, ur ugly, blah blah". Also, it's obvious from the first post that the comments are completely over the top and trollish.
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made my day
thx =)
haha rofl..
first offending massively and then being a total crybaby when getting some shit back
whos the douche now ?
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On February 14 2010 19:54 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 16:40 Sherlock wrote:On February 14 2010 15:19 HuntingX wrote:
A few major points to throw out there:
1. Day9 is the biggest douche in the history of the world. Seriously. If you take one of his vids, show it to a non-sc fan, he'll think douche. Show it to a 30-40 year old who doesn't understand internet lingo, he'll still say douche. Show it to a 8-12 year old that watches Hannah Montana, douche. If babyboomers knew the word douche they'd categorize Day9 as a douche. It must *suck* having a face that resembles a female organ cleaner, but maybe that explains the nonstop piss that comes out of his mindnumbingly ridiculous mouth.
2. Ret is an overly chubby fail. $5000 and years into a game that the rest of the world has left behind, he can't even beat some retired player. I don't really care how good Sen was 3 years ago; he's not good now. He octzerged Ret to death, while Ret was floating his balls over Sen's face and still failing to stick his cock in. He practiced all that ZvZ, for what, to learn how to die to C- all-in ling attacks? It doesn't take a lot of practice to die to lings; I could do that! I don't need to watch televised cock-sucking while some fat Dutchman gets hammered in the rear.
The statements by incontrol (AKA lose in the first round of every tournament that's ever been made -> har har har fatass) that the foreigner scene is catching up to the pro-gaming scene are being shown as false as his attempts to portray himself as some sort of competitive gamer. NEWS FLASH: you aren't competitive if you're a 30 year old fatass who can't pay the bills because you LOSE IN THE FIRST ROUND OF ALL YOUR TOURNAMENTS. Ret has 1 up on InControl, he loses in the 2nd and 3rd round instead.
WAY TO BE WINNERS GUYS. "HuntingX" googles to "Clark Guo" which facebooks to this guy: ur from providence, rhode island, u graduated caltech and BU, impressive u work for minimax consulting, its facebook group is easily found, lots of nice coworkers company website is shitty, but ur profile is there: http://www.minimaxconsulting.com/_ourPicturesAndBios.htmClark joined Minimax as an Associate Quantitative Analyst after receiving his MS in Economics from Boston University. Prior to that, he received his BS from Caltech in both Mathematics and Economics. Clark is a member in good standing of the American Statistical Association. He was first promoted to Assistant Director of Quantitative Research, before taking on his new position as Director of Academic Research and Head of Econometrics. His main research interests lie in financial modeling, computational efficiency methodology, R-stats programming, and statistical arbitrage. He is also an avid chess player. heres u again: ur 24 yrs old, u have a professional job, and u post like this? calling young gamers fat and day9 douchebag? look at u. u ugly as fuck. and i can ruin ur life with mass goatse emails to all ur coworkers and fb friends using clarkguo002@email.com. don't post like a douche on a forum then easily have contact info there, clark. I'm gonna call double troll on this. I think both of these users were the same person screwing with us. I say this because I'm almost positive I saw the exact same situation a while ago on TL, where a guy makes a ridiculous bm/flame post, then someone responded with pics of that same asian guy who graduated from caltech saying "i found you, ur ugly, blah blah". Also, it's obvious from the first post that the comments are completely over the top and trollish.
Making the Sherlock account 7 years previously was just to throw us off the scent? Gotta admire the mans patience.
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On February 14 2010 19:59 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 19:54 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:On February 14 2010 16:40 Sherlock wrote:On February 14 2010 15:19 HuntingX wrote:
A few major points to throw out there:
1. Day9 is the biggest douche in the history of the world. Seriously. If you take one of his vids, show it to a non-sc fan, he'll think douche. Show it to a 30-40 year old who doesn't understand internet lingo, he'll still say douche. Show it to a 8-12 year old that watches Hannah Montana, douche. If babyboomers knew the word douche they'd categorize Day9 as a douche. It must *suck* having a face that resembles a female organ cleaner, but maybe that explains the nonstop piss that comes out of his mindnumbingly ridiculous mouth.
2. Ret is an overly chubby fail. $5000 and years into a game that the rest of the world has left behind, he can't even beat some retired player. I don't really care how good Sen was 3 years ago; he's not good now. He octzerged Ret to death, while Ret was floating his balls over Sen's face and still failing to stick his cock in. He practiced all that ZvZ, for what, to learn how to die to C- all-in ling attacks? It doesn't take a lot of practice to die to lings; I could do that! I don't need to watch televised cock-sucking while some fat Dutchman gets hammered in the rear.
The statements by incontrol (AKA lose in the first round of every tournament that's ever been made -> har har har fatass) that the foreigner scene is catching up to the pro-gaming scene are being shown as false as his attempts to portray himself as some sort of competitive gamer. NEWS FLASH: you aren't competitive if you're a 30 year old fatass who can't pay the bills because you LOSE IN THE FIRST ROUND OF ALL YOUR TOURNAMENTS. Ret has 1 up on InControl, he loses in the 2nd and 3rd round instead.
WAY TO BE WINNERS GUYS. "HuntingX" googles to "Clark Guo" which facebooks to this guy: ur from providence, rhode island, u graduated caltech and BU, impressive u work for minimax consulting, its facebook group is easily found, lots of nice coworkers company website is shitty, but ur profile is there: http://www.minimaxconsulting.com/_ourPicturesAndBios.htmClark joined Minimax as an Associate Quantitative Analyst after receiving his MS in Economics from Boston University. Prior to that, he received his BS from Caltech in both Mathematics and Economics. Clark is a member in good standing of the American Statistical Association. He was first promoted to Assistant Director of Quantitative Research, before taking on his new position as Director of Academic Research and Head of Econometrics. His main research interests lie in financial modeling, computational efficiency methodology, R-stats programming, and statistical arbitrage. He is also an avid chess player. heres u again: ur 24 yrs old, u have a professional job, and u post like this? calling young gamers fat and day9 douchebag? look at u. u ugly as fuck. and i can ruin ur life with mass goatse emails to all ur coworkers and fb friends using clarkguo002@email.com. don't post like a douche on a forum then easily have contact info there, clark. I'm gonna call double troll on this. I think both of these users were the same person screwing with us. I say this because I'm almost positive I saw the exact same situation a while ago on TL, where a guy makes a ridiculous bm/flame post, then someone responded with pics of that same asian guy who graduated from caltech saying "i found you, ur ugly, blah blah". Also, it's obvious from the first post that the comments are completely over the top and trollish. Making the Sherlock account 7 years previously was just to throw us off the scent? Gotta admire the mans patience.
LOL
Priceless
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On February 14 2010 18:50 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 15:32 Julmust wrote:On February 14 2010 11:53 ArvickHero wrote:On February 14 2010 11:40 On_Slaught wrote:On February 14 2010 10:53 Highways wrote:
Reinforces that ZvZ is a disgrace of a matchup.
No wonder top Zerg players are getting zvz sniped in Winners League. I agree. With the way ZvZ is played nowindays, it's not longer any real indicator of who the better player is. Having said that, Rets response to lings was poor in pretty much every game. I disagree. You guys are all just butt-hurt that Ret got outplayed. I fully agree with that, I mean lets have a look at how ret has lost ZvZ's in TSL: Castro: one loss - too greedy/not enough lings sen: first loss - too greedy/not enough lings second loss - too greedy/not enough lings third loss - too greedy/not enough lings I mean at some point he has to stop, think for a second and go "oh he knows my weak spot is that I tend to make too few lings, I should just make a shitload of lings this game so he cant break me and then go into the muta-battle where I'll have to upper hand". That's rets problem in a way, he has only played koreans in ZvZ. they often dont get like two controlgroups of lings and break right before mutas, they want it to go to mutas since they can micro like no one else. So it basically comes down to lack of experiance on rets part. Yeah, and not even just that. Ret played all the games quite stupidly. Without scouting information, especially if expanding, it's very natural and normal to build almost purely lings. You don't just drone up without scouting information, you make only lings and a single drone here and there, maybe.(Especially against foreigners). Even if your opponent isn't making many lings to attack you, you can still use your lings to attack so it doesn't really hurt you that much, especially against foreigners. I don't understand how a player can be that greedy in every game and not learn after the first time he makes the mistake. Ret definitely deserved to lose the series because he seemed to heavily lack common sense and adaptability. In fact, I don't understand what he was thinking or trying to do, at all.
Yes he made mistakes and all. But still, it really shocks me how few people give due credit to Sen. Apparently the average netizen nowadays seems to just have followed the foreigner scene 2 weeks into the TSL. Sen has arguably been the #1 foreigner zerg for some 2 years -- when ret didn't even know how to spell starcraft. Last year, Draco came from nowhere to a #2 finish, and his opponents on his way did not look good at all. Sure, ret was winning a lot lately, but *never* underestimate these "old" players.
I simply don't understand how people could have thought ret was the clear favourite.
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On February 14 2010 17:14 {88}iNcontroL wrote:wait I randomly got flamed? hahahaha awesome I'm so fucking famous.
lmao incontrol has such a baller attitude
these last few pages have been hilarious
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On February 14 2010 19:59 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 19:54 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:On February 14 2010 16:40 Sherlock wrote:On February 14 2010 15:19 HuntingX wrote:
A few major points to throw out there:
1. Day9 is the biggest douche in the history of the world. Seriously. If you take one of his vids, show it to a non-sc fan, he'll think douche. Show it to a 30-40 year old who doesn't understand internet lingo, he'll still say douche. Show it to a 8-12 year old that watches Hannah Montana, douche. If babyboomers knew the word douche they'd categorize Day9 as a douche. It must *suck* having a face that resembles a female organ cleaner, but maybe that explains the nonstop piss that comes out of his mindnumbingly ridiculous mouth.
2. Ret is an overly chubby fail. $5000 and years into a game that the rest of the world has left behind, he can't even beat some retired player. I don't really care how good Sen was 3 years ago; he's not good now. He octzerged Ret to death, while Ret was floating his balls over Sen's face and still failing to stick his cock in. He practiced all that ZvZ, for what, to learn how to die to C- all-in ling attacks? It doesn't take a lot of practice to die to lings; I could do that! I don't need to watch televised cock-sucking while some fat Dutchman gets hammered in the rear.
The statements by incontrol (AKA lose in the first round of every tournament that's ever been made -> har har har fatass) that the foreigner scene is catching up to the pro-gaming scene are being shown as false as his attempts to portray himself as some sort of competitive gamer. NEWS FLASH: you aren't competitive if you're a 30 year old fatass who can't pay the bills because you LOSE IN THE FIRST ROUND OF ALL YOUR TOURNAMENTS. Ret has 1 up on InControl, he loses in the 2nd and 3rd round instead.
WAY TO BE WINNERS GUYS. "HuntingX" googles to "Clark Guo" which facebooks to this guy: ur from providence, rhode island, u graduated caltech and BU, impressive u work for minimax consulting, its facebook group is easily found, lots of nice coworkers company website is shitty, but ur profile is there: http://www.minimaxconsulting.com/_ourPicturesAndBios.htmClark joined Minimax as an Associate Quantitative Analyst after receiving his MS in Economics from Boston University. Prior to that, he received his BS from Caltech in both Mathematics and Economics. Clark is a member in good standing of the American Statistical Association. He was first promoted to Assistant Director of Quantitative Research, before taking on his new position as Director of Academic Research and Head of Econometrics. His main research interests lie in financial modeling, computational efficiency methodology, R-stats programming, and statistical arbitrage. He is also an avid chess player. heres u again: ur 24 yrs old, u have a professional job, and u post like this? calling young gamers fat and day9 douchebag? look at u. u ugly as fuck. and i can ruin ur life with mass goatse emails to all ur coworkers and fb friends using clarkguo002@email.com. don't post like a douche on a forum then easily have contact info there, clark. I'm gonna call double troll on this. I think both of these users were the same person screwing with us. I say this because I'm almost positive I saw the exact same situation a while ago on TL, where a guy makes a ridiculous bm/flame post, then someone responded with pics of that same asian guy who graduated from caltech saying "i found you, ur ugly, blah blah". Also, it's obvious from the first post that the comments are completely over the top and trollish. Making the Sherlock account 7 years previously was just to throw us off the scent? Gotta admire the mans patience.
Do you think it's more likely that a guy with a 7 year old account with 1 post (with the name Sherlock) would all of a sudden resurface with a post like this in order to respond to another user who, coincidentally, had a lowly 8 posts?
I distinctly remember seeing this same thing happening a long time ago (like years ago, probably with the same account), which means that it's probably some TL member who pulled this gag back then, and then remembered how funny it was and decided to do it again.
Edit: I remember a little more about the post now, one of the pictures was the guy on a boat with the ocean in the background... jog anyone's memory?
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On February 14 2010 20:07 kernl wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 18:50 Shikyo wrote:On February 14 2010 15:32 Julmust wrote:On February 14 2010 11:53 ArvickHero wrote:On February 14 2010 11:40 On_Slaught wrote:On February 14 2010 10:53 Highways wrote:
Reinforces that ZvZ is a disgrace of a matchup.
No wonder top Zerg players are getting zvz sniped in Winners League. I agree. With the way ZvZ is played nowindays, it's not longer any real indicator of who the better player is. Having said that, Rets response to lings was poor in pretty much every game. I disagree. You guys are all just butt-hurt that Ret got outplayed. I fully agree with that, I mean lets have a look at how ret has lost ZvZ's in TSL: Castro: one loss - too greedy/not enough lings sen: first loss - too greedy/not enough lings second loss - too greedy/not enough lings third loss - too greedy/not enough lings I mean at some point he has to stop, think for a second and go "oh he knows my weak spot is that I tend to make too few lings, I should just make a shitload of lings this game so he cant break me and then go into the muta-battle where I'll have to upper hand". That's rets problem in a way, he has only played koreans in ZvZ. they often dont get like two controlgroups of lings and break right before mutas, they want it to go to mutas since they can micro like no one else. So it basically comes down to lack of experiance on rets part. Yeah, and not even just that. Ret played all the games quite stupidly. Without scouting information, especially if expanding, it's very natural and normal to build almost purely lings. You don't just drone up without scouting information, you make only lings and a single drone here and there, maybe.(Especially against foreigners). Even if your opponent isn't making many lings to attack you, you can still use your lings to attack so it doesn't really hurt you that much, especially against foreigners. I don't understand how a player can be that greedy in every game and not learn after the first time he makes the mistake. Ret definitely deserved to lose the series because he seemed to heavily lack common sense and adaptability. In fact, I don't understand what he was thinking or trying to do, at all. Yes he made mistakes and all. But still, it really shocks me how few people give due credit to Sen. Apparently the average netizen nowadays seems to just have followed the foreigner scene 2 weeks into the TSL. Sen has arguably been the #1 foreigner zerg for some 2 years -- when ret didn't even know how to spell starcraft. Last year, Draco came from nowhere to a #2 finish, and his opponents on his way did not look good at all. Sure, ret was winning a lot lately, but *never* underestimate these "old" players. I simply don't understand how people could have thought ret was the clear favourite.
You think ret is new school? I simply don't understand some people.
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On February 14 2010 20:07 kernl wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 18:50 Shikyo wrote:On February 14 2010 15:32 Julmust wrote:On February 14 2010 11:53 ArvickHero wrote:On February 14 2010 11:40 On_Slaught wrote:On February 14 2010 10:53 Highways wrote:
Reinforces that ZvZ is a disgrace of a matchup.
No wonder top Zerg players are getting zvz sniped in Winners League. I agree. With the way ZvZ is played nowindays, it's not longer any real indicator of who the better player is. Having said that, Rets response to lings was poor in pretty much every game. I disagree. You guys are all just butt-hurt that Ret got outplayed. I fully agree with that, I mean lets have a look at how ret has lost ZvZ's in TSL: Castro: one loss - too greedy/not enough lings sen: first loss - too greedy/not enough lings second loss - too greedy/not enough lings third loss - too greedy/not enough lings I mean at some point he has to stop, think for a second and go "oh he knows my weak spot is that I tend to make too few lings, I should just make a shitload of lings this game so he cant break me and then go into the muta-battle where I'll have to upper hand". That's rets problem in a way, he has only played koreans in ZvZ. they often dont get like two controlgroups of lings and break right before mutas, they want it to go to mutas since they can micro like no one else. So it basically comes down to lack of experiance on rets part. Yeah, and not even just that. Ret played all the games quite stupidly. Without scouting information, especially if expanding, it's very natural and normal to build almost purely lings. You don't just drone up without scouting information, you make only lings and a single drone here and there, maybe.(Especially against foreigners). Even if your opponent isn't making many lings to attack you, you can still use your lings to attack so it doesn't really hurt you that much, especially against foreigners. I don't understand how a player can be that greedy in every game and not learn after the first time he makes the mistake. Ret definitely deserved to lose the series because he seemed to heavily lack common sense and adaptability. In fact, I don't understand what he was thinking or trying to do, at all. Yes he made mistakes and all. But still, it really shocks me how few people give due credit to Sen. Apparently the average netizen nowadays seems to just have followed the foreigner scene 2 weeks into the TSL. Sen has arguably been the #1 foreigner zerg for some 2 years -- when ret didn't even know how to spell starcraft. Last year, Draco came from nowhere to a #2 finish, and his opponents on his way did not look good at all. Sure, ret was winning a lot lately, but *never* underestimate these "old" players. I simply don't understand how people could have thought ret was the clear favourite.
Well, what are you talking about? I think he wasn't the favorite. I just don't understand what he was trying to accomplish by making like 5 drones more than your opponent. Doesn't he understand that only means that he's going to die. You only need to make one drone more than your opponent to have an advantage, in fact a game-winning advantage. 12-hatch doesn't need any extra drones in order to produce Mutalisks non-stop off 2 hatcheries.
Does Ret have some kind of a drone-fetish, or what does he try to accomplish? His play made no sense to me at all, it was as if he was asking to lose and in the only case where he did not lose( his opponent powered drones super hard), he was behind. Just extremely stupid play from such a good player.
Also, ret is not new school but instead old school and has been around since like 2002 or whatever, and what does Draco have to do with this? Also, you missed my post's point entirely. My point wasn't that the favorite made dumb mistakes and lost, my point was that he played shockingly terribly. How can a player not get that you don't need fully saturated base to ZvZ? In fact, having 9 drones on minerals total is more than enough for pure Muta pump off 2 bases, you don't need to spam them like a madman.
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