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Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
February 14 2010 06:32 GMT
#1121
On February 14 2010 11:53 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2010 11:40 On_Slaught wrote:
On February 14 2010 10:53 Highways wrote:
Reinforces that ZvZ is a disgrace of a matchup.

No wonder top Zerg players are getting zvz sniped in Winners League.


I agree. With the way ZvZ is played nowindays, it's not longer any real indicator of who the better player is.

Having said that, Rets response to lings was poor in pretty much every game.

I disagree. You guys are all just butt-hurt that Ret got outplayed.


I fully agree with that, I mean lets have a look at how ret has lost ZvZ's in TSL:

Castro: one loss - too greedy/not enough lings

sen: first loss - too greedy/not enough lings
second loss - too greedy/not enough lings
third loss - too greedy/not enough lings

I mean at some point he has to stop, think for a second and go "oh he knows my weak spot is that I tend to make too few lings, I should just make a shitload of lings this game so he cant break me and then go into the muta-battle where I'll have to upper hand".

That's rets problem in a way, he has only played koreans in ZvZ. they often dont get like two controlgroups of lings and break right before mutas, they want it to go to mutas since they can micro like no one else. So it basically comes down to lack of experiance on rets part.
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
bias-
Profile Joined October 2004
United States410 Posts
February 14 2010 06:55 GMT
#1122
On February 14 2010 12:06 Ideas wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 14 2010 12:00 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2010 11:53 ArvickHero wrote:
On February 14 2010 11:40 On_Slaught wrote:
On February 14 2010 10:53 Highways wrote:
Reinforces that ZvZ is a disgrace of a matchup.

No wonder top Zerg players are getting zvz sniped in Winners League.


I agree. With the way ZvZ is played nowindays, it's not longer any real indicator of who the better player is.

Having said that, Rets response to lings was poor in pretty much every game.

I disagree. You guys are all just butt-hurt that Ret got outplayed.


I have no stake, nor do I care, who wins the TSL. However it would be a lie to say that ZvZ doesn't have significantly more "upsets" in it, and that it isn't the most fickle matchup where being the better player wont neccessarily get you the victory (BO's, lings out of position, unlucky/lucky scouting etc).


I think it's more that the better ZvZ player isnt considered the better "player" a lot of the time.


QFT. The subtlety of ZvZ is hard to appreciate if you havn't played 90123 ZvZs. I think those are required to understand where someone lost focus either in scouting, awareness of forces & base simultaneously, and of course the necessary micro that has to be organic and instinctual to be the best. Not saying I know any better, but from what I've heard of top players this is it, and of course some luck (OL scouting, base position + BO), but that's true of any mirror.
For serious minds, a bias recognized is a bias sterilized.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
February 14 2010 06:58 GMT
#1123
lol r u srs
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
QuoC
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States724 Posts
February 14 2010 07:24 GMT
#1124
nononononono ret didn't lose ret didn't lose
i can't believe this x_x mannnnnnnnn
sorry for the zvz bullshit you have to deal with ret. you're doing great, please stay active!
Dario "TLO" Wünsch -- Favorite SC2 Player
Sherlock
Profile Joined February 2003
Sweden3 Posts
February 14 2010 07:40 GMT
#1125
On February 14 2010 15:19 HuntingX wrote:
A few major points to throw out there:

1. Day9 is the biggest douche in the history of the world. Seriously. If you take one of his vids, show it to a non-sc fan, he'll think douche. Show it to a 30-40 year old who doesn't understand internet lingo, he'll still say douche. Show it to a 8-12 year old that watches Hannah Montana, douche. If babyboomers knew the word douche they'd categorize Day9 as a douche. It must *suck* having a face that resembles a female organ cleaner, but maybe that explains the nonstop piss that comes out of his mindnumbingly ridiculous mouth.

2. Ret is an overly chubby fail. $5000 and years into a game that the rest of the world has left behind, he can't even beat some retired player. I don't really care how good Sen was 3 years ago; he's not good now. He octzerged Ret to death, while Ret was floating his balls over Sen's face and still failing to stick his cock in. He practiced all that ZvZ, for what, to learn how to die to C- all-in ling attacks? It doesn't take a lot of practice to die to lings; I could do that! I don't need to watch televised cock-sucking while some fat Dutchman gets hammered in the rear.

The statements by incontrol (AKA lose in the first round of every tournament that's ever been made -> har har har fatass) that the foreigner scene is catching up to the pro-gaming scene are being shown as false as his attempts to portray himself as some sort of competitive gamer. NEWS FLASH: you aren't competitive if you're a 30 year old fatass who can't pay the bills because you LOSE IN THE FIRST ROUND OF ALL YOUR TOURNAMENTS. Ret has 1 up on InControl, he loses in the 2nd and 3rd round instead.

WAY TO BE WINNERS GUYS.

"HuntingX" googles to "Clark Guo" which facebooks to this guy:

[image loading]

ur from providence, rhode island, u graduated caltech and BU, impressive
u work for minimax consulting, its facebook group is easily found, lots of nice coworkers
company website is shitty, but ur profile is there:
http://www.minimaxconsulting.com/_ourPicturesAndBios.htm

Clark joined Minimax as an Associate Quantitative Analyst after receiving his MS in Economics from Boston University. Prior to that, he received his BS from Caltech in both Mathematics and Economics. Clark is a member in good standing of the American Statistical Association. He was first promoted to Assistant Director of Quantitative Research, before taking on his new position as Director of Academic Research and Head of Econometrics. His main research interests lie in financial modeling, computational efficiency methodology, R-stats programming, and statistical arbitrage. He is also an avid chess player.


heres u again:
[image loading]

ur 24 yrs old, u have a professional job, and u post like this? calling young gamers fat and day9 douchebag?

look at u. u ugly as fuck. and i can ruin ur life with mass goatse emails to all ur coworkers and fb friends using clarkguo002@email.com.

don't post like a douche on a forum then easily have contact info there, clark.
TLFan97
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1 Post
February 14 2010 07:42 GMT
#1126
Hilarious. Just because I started some trashtalk on the internet, Teamliquid is trying to pretend like they're hot shit and THREATENING me in real life? Are you serious? Lucky for AIM logging.

I'm not even 100% if Teamliquid is on legal ground here. But I'm sure they'll want to know, and their sponsors care about behavior like this. The guy they hired to do their dirty work was comparing TL to 4chan, is that what TL is now? Lucky for me, I know my boss very well IRL, so they are completely toothless. But this is *dangerous* behavior.

The following threats were issued by Teamliquid: ->

teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:17:37 AM): don't make douchebag posts on a forum when you
teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:17:42 AM): have easily accessible info
teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:17:47 AM): ill just post all this on the forum along with ur pic ok
teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:17:55 AM): you don't mind?
teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:18:02 AM): how about emailing your employer
teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:19:05 AM): gonna post it on forums and 4chan
teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:19:07 AM): u dont mind right?
teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:22:22 AM): im sure your friends wont mind goatce links and tubgirl embeds

So on and so forth; this goes on for quite a while. You can keep banning accounts if you want, but this type of behavior is completely unacceptable. It's lucky that my real life cannot be affected in any tangible way by my internet postings, but for anyone else (currently in school or otherwise), this could be a real problem. I'd recommend Teamliquid stop such activities, for a myriad number of reasons.

HuntingX
hi
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
February 14 2010 07:44 GMT
#1127
oh my god I can't stop laughing hahahahaha
dats racist
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
February 14 2010 07:45 GMT
#1128
Holy shit............what's going on here O_O
KT_Violet
Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-14 07:47:45
February 14 2010 07:46 GMT
#1129
On February 14 2010 16:40 Sherlock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2010 15:19 HuntingX wrote:
A few major points to throw out there:

1. Day9 is the biggest douche in the history of the world. Seriously. If you take one of his vids, show it to a non-sc fan, he'll think douche. Show it to a 30-40 year old who doesn't understand internet lingo, he'll still say douche. Show it to a 8-12 year old that watches Hannah Montana, douche. If babyboomers knew the word douche they'd categorize Day9 as a douche. It must *suck* having a face that resembles a female organ cleaner, but maybe that explains the nonstop piss that comes out of his mindnumbingly ridiculous mouth.

2. Ret is an overly chubby fail. $5000 and years into a game that the rest of the world has left behind, he can't even beat some retired player. I don't really care how good Sen was 3 years ago; he's not good now. He octzerged Ret to death, while Ret was floating his balls over Sen's face and still failing to stick his cock in. He practiced all that ZvZ, for what, to learn how to die to C- all-in ling attacks? It doesn't take a lot of practice to die to lings; I could do that! I don't need to watch televised cock-sucking while some fat Dutchman gets hammered in the rear.

The statements by incontrol (AKA lose in the first round of every tournament that's ever been made -> har har har fatass) that the foreigner scene is catching up to the pro-gaming scene are being shown as false as his attempts to portray himself as some sort of competitive gamer. NEWS FLASH: you aren't competitive if you're a 30 year old fatass who can't pay the bills because you LOSE IN THE FIRST ROUND OF ALL YOUR TOURNAMENTS. Ret has 1 up on InControl, he loses in the 2nd and 3rd round instead.

WAY TO BE WINNERS GUYS.

"HuntingX" googles to "Clark Guo" which facebooks to this guy:

[image loading]

ur from providence, rhode island, u graduated caltech and BU, impressive
u work for minimax consulting, its facebook group is easily found, lots of nice coworkers
company website is shitty, but ur profile is there:
http://www.minimaxconsulting.com/_ourPicturesAndBios.htm

Show nested quote +
Clark joined Minimax as an Associate Quantitative Analyst after receiving his MS in Economics from Boston University. Prior to that, he received his BS from Caltech in both Mathematics and Economics. Clark is a member in good standing of the American Statistical Association. He was first promoted to Assistant Director of Quantitative Research, before taking on his new position as Director of Academic Research and Head of Econometrics. His main research interests lie in financial modeling, computational efficiency methodology, R-stats programming, and statistical arbitrage. He is also an avid chess player.


heres u again:
[image loading]

ur 24 yrs old, u have a professional job, and u post like this? calling young gamers fat and day9 douchebag?

look at u. u ugly as fuck. and i can ruin ur life with mass goatse emails to all ur coworkers and fb friends using clarkguo002@email.com.

don't post like a douche on a forum then easily have contact info there, clark.


Sorry, but this is the most despicable post I've seen on Teamliquid EVER. You're breaking an unwritten fucking holy-rule. If I had any say in the matter, I'd ban you from here to the moon.

Sure HuntingX overstepped, but in no fucking way should you ever try threaten his real life.
If Teamliquid admins has any sort of integrity at all, they'll ban _you_.

I'm just gonna refrain from posting in the future, if irl-threats from people who disagree is what I'll receive in return. Ridicilous.
Sherlock
Profile Joined February 2003
Sweden3 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-14 07:51:55
February 14 2010 07:47 GMT
#1130
On February 14 2010 16:42 TLFan97 wrote:
Hilarious. Just because I started some trashtalk on the internet, Teamliquid is trying to pretend like they're hot shit and THREATENING me in real life? Are you serious? Lucky for AIM logging.

I'm not even 100% if Teamliquid is on legal ground here. But I'm sure they'll want to know, and their sponsors care about behavior like this. The guy they hired to do their dirty work was comparing TL to 4chan, is that what TL is now? Lucky for me, I know my boss very well IRL, so they are completely toothless. But this is *dangerous* behavior.

The following threats were issued by Teamliquid: ->

teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:17:37 AM): don't make douchebag posts on a forum when you
teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:17:42 AM): have easily accessible info
teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:17:47 AM): ill just post all this on the forum along with ur pic ok
teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:17:55 AM): you don't mind?
teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:18:02 AM): how about emailing your employer
teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:19:05 AM): gonna post it on forums and 4chan
teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:19:07 AM): u dont mind right?
teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:22:22 AM): im sure your friends wont mind goatce links and tubgirl embeds

So on and so forth; this goes on for quite a while. You can keep banning accounts if you want, but this type of behavior is completely unacceptable. It's lucky that my real life cannot be affected in any tangible way by my internet postings, but for anyone else (currently in school or otherwise), this could be a real problem. I'd recommend Teamliquid stop such activities, for a myriad number of reasons.

HuntingX

sup clark

thx 4 confirming its u, douchebag

full chat:
teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:17:37 AM): don't make douchebag posts on a forum when you
teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:17:42 AM): have easily accessible info
teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:17:47 AM): ill just post all this on the forum along with ur pic ok
teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:17:55 AM): you don't mind?
teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:18:02 AM): how about emailing your employer
clarkguo86 (2:18:21 AM): omfg dont do that FUCK U fuckkkk
teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:19:05 AM): gonna post it on forums and 4chan
teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:19:07 AM): u dont mind right?
teamliquidsherlock@gmail.com (2:22:22 AM): im sure your friends wont mind goatce links and tubgirl embeds
clarkguo86 (2:22:23 AM): i like young boys and doing myself in the ass with coke can



User was banned for this post.
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-14 07:50:11
February 14 2010 07:47 GMT
#1131
Why are you saying it was issued by Teamliquid? You were banned for the fact that you made a really shitty post which totally broke all our rules.

If you get into arguments with other random forum members on AIM then that's not really anything to do with us...


Anyway, you're both banned Feel free to continue your back-and-forthing on AIM if you want, but not here.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
February 14 2010 07:50 GMT
#1132
Wow lol.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
February 14 2010 07:50 GMT
#1133
Wait.........Sherlock had his account since 2003 and his 3rd post was that? How is that even possible?
KT_Violet
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
February 14 2010 07:57 GMT
#1134
The power of the internet is amazing. Sherlock is an apt name.
Jaedong
..Slick...
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States202 Posts
February 14 2010 07:59 GMT
#1135
On February 14 2010 16:50 JIJIyO wrote:
Wait.........Sherlock had his account since 2003 and his 3rd post was that? How is that even possible?


Yeah ROFL.

and this whole thing was a blunder
it was written
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
February 14 2010 08:02 GMT
#1136
lol what the fuck is happening

2003 account with 1 post does this lolol
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42694 Posts
February 14 2010 08:04 GMT
#1137
On February 14 2010 16:50 JIJIyO wrote:
Wait.........Sherlock had his account since 2003 and his 3rd post was that? How is that even possible?

lol
It's gotta be someone's alt. But whose?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-14 08:06:50
February 14 2010 08:05 GMT
#1138
LOL what a sherlock

Cheers to Clark as well
If you have to ask, you don't know.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42694 Posts
February 14 2010 08:07 GMT
#1139
On February 14 2010 16:46 Demand2k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2010 16:40 Sherlock wrote:
On February 14 2010 15:19 HuntingX wrote:
A few major points to throw out there:

1. Day9 is the biggest douche in the history of the world. Seriously. If you take one of his vids, show it to a non-sc fan, he'll think douche. Show it to a 30-40 year old who doesn't understand internet lingo, he'll still say douche. Show it to a 8-12 year old that watches Hannah Montana, douche. If babyboomers knew the word douche they'd categorize Day9 as a douche. It must *suck* having a face that resembles a female organ cleaner, but maybe that explains the nonstop piss that comes out of his mindnumbingly ridiculous mouth.

2. Ret is an overly chubby fail. $5000 and years into a game that the rest of the world has left behind, he can't even beat some retired player. I don't really care how good Sen was 3 years ago; he's not good now. He octzerged Ret to death, while Ret was floating his balls over Sen's face and still failing to stick his cock in. He practiced all that ZvZ, for what, to learn how to die to C- all-in ling attacks? It doesn't take a lot of practice to die to lings; I could do that! I don't need to watch televised cock-sucking while some fat Dutchman gets hammered in the rear.

The statements by incontrol (AKA lose in the first round of every tournament that's ever been made -> har har har fatass) that the foreigner scene is catching up to the pro-gaming scene are being shown as false as his attempts to portray himself as some sort of competitive gamer. NEWS FLASH: you aren't competitive if you're a 30 year old fatass who can't pay the bills because you LOSE IN THE FIRST ROUND OF ALL YOUR TOURNAMENTS. Ret has 1 up on InControl, he loses in the 2nd and 3rd round instead.

WAY TO BE WINNERS GUYS.

"HuntingX" googles to "Clark Guo" which facebooks to this guy:

[image loading]

ur from providence, rhode island, u graduated caltech and BU, impressive
u work for minimax consulting, its facebook group is easily found, lots of nice coworkers
company website is shitty, but ur profile is there:
http://www.minimaxconsulting.com/_ourPicturesAndBios.htm

Clark joined Minimax as an Associate Quantitative Analyst after receiving his MS in Economics from Boston University. Prior to that, he received his BS from Caltech in both Mathematics and Economics. Clark is a member in good standing of the American Statistical Association. He was first promoted to Assistant Director of Quantitative Research, before taking on his new position as Director of Academic Research and Head of Econometrics. His main research interests lie in financial modeling, computational efficiency methodology, R-stats programming, and statistical arbitrage. He is also an avid chess player.


heres u again:
[image loading]

ur 24 yrs old, u have a professional job, and u post like this? calling young gamers fat and day9 douchebag?

look at u. u ugly as fuck. and i can ruin ur life with mass goatse emails to all ur coworkers and fb friends using clarkguo002@email.com.

don't post like a douche on a forum then easily have contact info there, clark.


Sorry, but this is the most despicable post I've seen on Teamliquid EVER. You're breaking an unwritten fucking holy-rule. If I had any say in the matter, I'd ban you from here to the moon.

Sure HuntingX overstepped, but in no fucking way should you ever try threaten his real life.
If Teamliquid admins has any sort of integrity at all, they'll ban _you_.

I'm just gonna refrain from posting in the future, if irl-threats from people who disagree is what I'll receive in return. Ridicilous.

Not really. He's just holding the guy accountable. If you're going to sit behind the safety of your computer screen and insult the appearance of others you better make damn sure you haven't got any photos of yourself online. It's easy to spew shit online when you know you're not going to get any back. All he's doing is reminding the guy that he's not HuntingX, internet badass, he's just a guy.
I have no problem with you personally refraining from ever posting again but doing so because a troll who gets off on calling other people ugly had his photo posted is kinda backwards.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
February 14 2010 08:12 GMT
#1140
On February 14 2010 16:40 Sherlock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2010 15:19 HuntingX wrote:
A few major points to throw out there:

1. Day9 is the biggest douche in the history of the world. Seriously. If you take one of his vids, show it to a non-sc fan, he'll think douche. Show it to a 30-40 year old who doesn't understand internet lingo, he'll still say douche. Show it to a 8-12 year old that watches Hannah Montana, douche. If babyboomers knew the word douche they'd categorize Day9 as a douche. It must *suck* having a face that resembles a female organ cleaner, but maybe that explains the nonstop piss that comes out of his mindnumbingly ridiculous mouth.

2. Ret is an overly chubby fail. $5000 and years into a game that the rest of the world has left behind, he can't even beat some retired player. I don't really care how good Sen was 3 years ago; he's not good now. He octzerged Ret to death, while Ret was floating his balls over Sen's face and still failing to stick his cock in. He practiced all that ZvZ, for what, to learn how to die to C- all-in ling attacks? It doesn't take a lot of practice to die to lings; I could do that! I don't need to watch televised cock-sucking while some fat Dutchman gets hammered in the rear.

The statements by incontrol (AKA lose in the first round of every tournament that's ever been made -> har har har fatass) that the foreigner scene is catching up to the pro-gaming scene are being shown as false as his attempts to portray himself as some sort of competitive gamer. NEWS FLASH: you aren't competitive if you're a 30 year old fatass who can't pay the bills because you LOSE IN THE FIRST ROUND OF ALL YOUR TOURNAMENTS. Ret has 1 up on InControl, he loses in the 2nd and 3rd round instead.

WAY TO BE WINNERS GUYS.

"HuntingX" googles to "Clark Guo" which facebooks to this guy:

[image loading]

ur from providence, rhode island, u graduated caltech and BU, impressive
u work for minimax consulting, its facebook group is easily found, lots of nice coworkers
company website is shitty, but ur profile is there:
http://www.minimaxconsulting.com/_ourPicturesAndBios.htm

Show nested quote +
Clark joined Minimax as an Associate Quantitative Analyst after receiving his MS in Economics from Boston University. Prior to that, he received his BS from Caltech in both Mathematics and Economics. Clark is a member in good standing of the American Statistical Association. He was first promoted to Assistant Director of Quantitative Research, before taking on his new position as Director of Academic Research and Head of Econometrics. His main research interests lie in financial modeling, computational efficiency methodology, R-stats programming, and statistical arbitrage. He is also an avid chess player.


heres u again:
[image loading]

ur 24 yrs old, u have a professional job, and u post like this? calling young gamers fat and day9 douchebag?

look at u. u ugly as fuck. and i can ruin ur life with mass goatse emails to all ur coworkers and fb friends using clarkguo002@email.com.

don't post like a douche on a forum then easily have contact info there, clark.


The internet is a scary place
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
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