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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
On February 02 2010 23:34 DanceCommander wrote: just because you guys have viktor krum doesn't mean you can criticize our constitution no, actually, anyone can criticize our constitution. that's the point of the constitution. | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2715 Posts
On February 02 2010 23:41 Zoler wrote: This is the common fail/misconception for people who is for weapons. So true. I recall that situation in Germany when two students decided to do the same that happened at Columbine. Well, the only difference was that wanted to go for a massacre with two crossbows and two soft air pistols... | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On February 02 2010 23:38 exeexe wrote: Dont u think when more ppl come to the local ammoshop that the price for ammo at the local shop will drop to the level of online shops because you know the supply/demand model, demand lower price when the demand for ammo increase? Probably the opposite will happen. The demand is gonna go up because people can't get it online any more, so the price will go. I feel this is a step in the right direction anyway, gun laws in America are ridiculous. They should ban them altogether. The whole 'I need to defend my family' is a bullshit argument as well. Other countries are fine without guns, what makes you so special. | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On February 02 2010 23:47 ggrrg wrote: So true. I recall that situation in Germany when two students decided to do the same that happened at Columbine. Well, the only difference was that wanted to go for a massacre with two crossbows and two soft air pistols... Examples like that, yep! There are studies and it's a fact that laws against guns makes the killing rates go down. How can you argue against SCIENCE!? | ||
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DanceCommander
United States1808 Posts
On February 02 2010 23:44 choboPEon wrote: no, actually, anyone can criticize our constitution. that's the point of the constitution. Krum caught the snitch, but Ireland still won.. Hows that for a mindfuck | ||
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theron[wdt]
United States395 Posts
On February 02 2010 23:47 deconduo wrote: I feel this is a step in the right direction anyway, gun laws in America are ridiculous. They should ban them altogether. The whole 'I need to defend my family' is a bullshit argument as well. Other countries are fine without guns, what makes you so special. as stated before, i shoot competitively and for fun. to me nothing is more stress relieving than hitting a target at 100 yards. I don't give a flying fuck about the "i need to defend my family" bullshit. Thats the reason God gave us the ability use fists. | ||
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
On February 02 2010 23:49 Zoler wrote: Examples like that, yep! There are studies and it's a fact that laws against guns makes the killing rates go down. How can you argue against SCIENCE!? conservatives vs science, the way it has always been. | ||
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Unstable
Sweden64 Posts
On February 02 2010 23:49 Zoler wrote: Examples like that, yep! There are studies and it's a fact that laws against guns makes the killing rates go down. How can you argue against SCIENCE!? There's correlation, but no direct causality between the two. Removing weapons reduces killings, but it doesn't stop them. ergo; it's only a contributing factor. It's possible to argue that there are other/better methods than those that conflict with a free market. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On February 02 2010 23:51 theron[wdt] wrote: as stated before, i shoot competitively and for fun. to me nothing is more stress relieving than hitting a target at 100 yards. I don't give a flying fuck about the "i need to defend my family" bullshit. Thats the reason God gave us the ability use fists. So the only reason you don't like it is because you can't order online. I mean, tough luck, it sucks for you but thats the way it should be. I want beer to be free, but its not. Who cares, move on. | ||
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exeexe
Denmark937 Posts
On February 02 2010 23:47 deconduo wrote: Probably the opposite will happen. The demand is gonna go up because people can't get it online any more, so the price will go. yes you are right, i screwed it up, thx for the correction. I always screw it up when there are 2 options T.T | ||
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Severedevil
United States4822 Posts
On February 02 2010 23:51 theron[wdt] wrote: as stated before, i shoot competitively and for fun. to me nothing is more stress relieving than hitting a target at 100 yards. I don't give a flying fuck about the "i need to defend my family" bullshit. Thats the reason God gave us the ability use fists. As it turns out, you picked the hobby that's for killing people. That you're not using it to kill people is a good thing, but it doesn't render government interest somehow unreasonable. | ||
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arb
Noobville17919 Posts
On February 03 2010 00:13 Severedevil wrote: As it turns out, you picked the hobby that's for killing people. That you're not using it to kill people is a good thing, but it doesn't render government interest somehow unreasonable. you know that shooting competitions isnt a hobby that kills people. its fucking ridculous just because california cant get its gangproblem under control that they must punish legitimate gun owners. | ||
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Rho_
United States971 Posts
On February 02 2010 23:51 theron[wdt] wrote: as stated before, i shoot competitively and for fun. to me nothing is more stress relieving than hitting a target at 100 yards. I don't give a flying fuck about the "i need to defend my family" bullshit. Thats the reason God gave us the ability use fists. So reload. This comes down to the fact that you're lazy, not that the law is stupid. You have a low cost alternative, but you're too lazy to do it. You should pay more. | ||
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2on2
United States142 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On February 03 2010 00:13 Severedevil wrote: As it turns out, you picked the hobby that's for killing people. That you're not using it to kill people is a good thing, but it doesn't render government interest somehow unreasonable. Archery? Fencing? Martial arts? What do you think these were inspired by? I think there should be restrictions on specific types of weapons, likely not what the OP is using for sport, but I do think this law is unfair and will be quite ineffectual. If someone wants to buy bullets without being tracked, they can just have someone else do it for them. If the prices go up, it'll boost the secondary market that already contains less reliable/safe products. | ||
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Intr3pid
Switzerland336 Posts
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enzym
Germany1034 Posts
On February 03 2010 00:01 Unstable wrote: There's correlation, but no direct causality between the two. Removing weapons reduces killings, but it doesn't stop them. ergo; it's only a contributing factor. It's possible to argue that there are other/better methods than those that conflict with a free market. good post. thats what people should be thinking about. i somehow find myself liking both sides of this. the one says: the value of life can only be as high as the lowest price for 1 bullet. so why are people complaining at all? shouldnt they be celebrating? the other one says: maybe id be a good thing to have guns available for free to anyone, to have more murders and massacres occur until people realize that it is them who are screwed up, not the law. they dont seem to have noticed it yet at all, despite all the things that have happened. "guns dont kill people. people do." actually isnt that far from the truth. the problem for the legislature is to find an affordable (cheap) way to improve the situation, in this case reduce the number of shootings and armed robberies. less people will get hurt less, but the root problem, namely the impulse and willingness to harm or threaten others for your own benefit isnt touched by that at all. but you cant have people monitoring and counseling everyone to get rid of that (for practical reasons. i do think we should have something like that.) On February 03 2010 00:01 Unstable wrote: It's possible to argue that there are other/better methods than those that conflict with a free market. here is your chance. | ||
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
The fact is that most Americans don't own guns, have never fired a gun, and will never be threatened by a gun, but it seems like every European and Canadian on the Internet thinks the US is the wild west with shoot-outs on the streets every day. Obviously there are Americans who dislike guns as well, but they never seem so vehemently against them. | ||
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statix
United States1760 Posts
I sure as hell know that if professors were allowed to carry concealed weapons I wouldn't plan on shooting up a school and the school shootings that do and will continue to occur will be a lot less successful. | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
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