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theron[wdt]
United States395 Posts
This is big bullshit because as a gun owner, now i have to go buy the ammunition at two or three times the cost of going to the internet. And now law abiding citizens are being treated like criminals by requiring a registration in the system in order to just buy bullets. baby back bullshit.   | ||
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6642 Posts
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PanoRaMa
United States5070 Posts
On February 02 2010 23:05 theron[wdt] wrote: And now law abiding citizens are being treated like criminals by requiring a registration in the system in order to just buy bullets. No one's treating you like a criminal. Don't you think this is a fair compromise that will have its benefits in prevention that will ultimately save some lives? fwiw i have no real stance on gun control and isn't something I think/talk about often, but from what I've read this seems like a really good compromise. | ||
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theron[wdt]
United States395 Posts
On February 02 2010 23:09 Nytefish wrote: I didn't think bullets was something you had to do weekly shopping for anyway as a "gun owner". they are if you shoot as much as i do On February 02 2010 23:10 jello_biafra wrote: Is it possible to order online from another state? no because as soon as i put down california on the shipping address, they back off saying they can't ship here On February 02 2010 23:13 PanoRaMa wrote: No one's treating you like a criminal. Don't you think this is a fair compromise that will have its benefits in prevention that will ultimately save some lives? no its not. In my opinion, there will always be a way for the common criminal to get his/her bullets, whether it be straw purchase or theft. There shouldn't be consequences for people who have a clean record for somebody who has a shitty one. | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6184 Posts
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Chef
10810 Posts
If you're not hunting with the gun, and you actually want it for self-defence, it's even more dangerous. It takes a situation where someone has a gun and they rob you, and turns it into a gunfight where someone gets murdered. Honestly I'd rather get robbed than have to defend myself in court against murder if I even won the gunfight (which is unlikely since the villain has the element of surprise on his side, and if he see's you with a gun he'll just shoot first). But then I live in a safe neighborhood, so it's pretty unlikely anyone is even going to have a gun to rob me with. | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
On February 02 2010 23:13 theron[wdt] wrote: they are if you shoot as much as i do no because as soon as i put down california on the shipping address, they back off saying they can't ship here no its not. In my opinion, there will always be a way for the common criminal to get his/her bullets, whether it be straw purchase or theft. There shouldn't be consequences for people who have a clean record for somebody who has a shitty one. That's too bad. | ||
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PanoRaMa
United States5070 Posts
On February 02 2010 23:13 theron[wdt] wrote: no its not. In my opinion, there will always be a way for the common criminal to get his/her bullets, whether it be straw purchase or theft. There shouldn't be consequences for people who have a clean record for somebody who has a shitty one. Fair enough. I am strongly opposed to prohibition of any sort. I don't really keep up with gun control legislation or anything, but if the choices were either to have it stay the same, introduce this, or something more drastic (i.e. banning guns or w/e it may be), I do think this kind of fair for you. If you hunt often, it makes your hobby more expensive I suppose, but somewhere down the line x amount of lives are potentially being saved is what I imagine the argument to be. I've been a professional poker player for some time now and in 2006 there was a law regulating gambling transactions within the US that basically hurt the poker economy by making it harder to deposit/withdraw, some sites pulled out of operation within the US, etc. etc. As a player, it meant that making money was harder and incited the myth that online gambling was illegal and as such I was engaging in illegal/criminal activities by playing poker from home, lol. However life goes on and it makes shit more difficult but at the same time I'm glad that the gov't didn't fuck up completely and outright ban online gambling, such that I'd have no job whatsoever. | ||
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theron[wdt]
United States395 Posts
On February 02 2010 23:14 Chef wrote: I understand the sentiment about law-abiding citizens being treated like criminals, but really guns are ludicrously dangerous and if you want to play with them you should have to have your identity known and traceable from your bullets. i shoot competitively with my guns so i put a shit ton and a half through them just for practice. they are registered On February 02 2010 23:18 heyoka wrote: If you're shooting that much I'm more surprised you aren't just reloading yourself im too lazy | ||
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enzym
Germany1034 Posts
On February 02 2010 23:05 theron[wdt] wrote: This is big bullshit because as a gun owner, now i have to go buy the ammunition at two or three times the cost of going to the internet. baby back bullshit. i guess the value of life went up a little today then. glad to hear it. | ||
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DanceCommander
United States1808 Posts
However, California probably has ridiculous gang/crime problems and this really does seem like a promising method of reducing illegal shit. Think of it this way, you are paying more for your ammo and in return a couple lives might be saved. Its a stretch but one must see the best in a shitt situation. One group ruining it for the rest is usually how things work in this world, it seems. | ||
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Neivler
Norway911 Posts
 It is a mad world :O + Show Spoiler + And I find it kinda funny I find it kinda sad The dreams in which I'm dying Are the best I've ever had I find it hard to tell you I find it hard to take When people run in circles It's a very, very mad world mad world | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
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DanceCommander
United States1808 Posts
On February 02 2010 23:33 ggrrg wrote: That's a first step. But there are a few more to go until the US gets rid of that obsolete relic in their Constitution. just because you guys have viktor krum doesn't mean you can criticize our constitution | ||
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Rho_
United States971 Posts
im too lazy Less QQ, more pew pew. | ||
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exeexe
Denmark937 Posts
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On February 02 2010 23:13 theron[wdt] wrote: no its not. In my opinion, there will always be a way for the common criminal to get his/her bullets, whether it be straw purchase or theft. There shouldn't be consequences for people who have a clean record for somebody who has a shitty one. This is the common fail/misconception for people who is for weapons. | ||
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theron[wdt]
United States395 Posts
On February 02 2010 23:38 exeexe wrote: Dont u think when more ppl come to the local ammoshop that the price for ammo at the local shop will drop to the level of online shops because you know the supply/demand model, demand lower price when the demand for ammo increase? not if the people online are from out of state and sell it for cheaper price when purchased in bulk. | ||
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