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chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
February 02 2010 14:44 GMT
#21
On February 02 2010 23:34 DanceCommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2010 23:33 ggrrg wrote:
That's a first step. But there are a few more to go until the US gets rid of that obsolete relic in their Constitution.

just because you guys have viktor krum doesn't mean you can criticize our constitution


no, actually, anyone can criticize our constitution. that's the point of the constitution.
:O
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2717 Posts
February 02 2010 14:47 GMT
#22
On February 02 2010 23:41 Zoler wrote:
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On February 02 2010 23:13 theron[wdt] wrote:
no its not. In my opinion, there will always be a way for the common criminal to get his/her bullets, whether it be straw purchase or theft. There shouldn't be consequences for people who have a clean record for somebody who has a shitty one.


This is the common fail/misconception for people who is for weapons.


So true. I recall that situation in Germany when two students decided to do the same that happened at Columbine. Well, the only difference was that wanted to go for a massacre with two crossbows and two soft air pistols...
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 02 2010 14:47 GMT
#23
On February 02 2010 23:38 exeexe wrote:
Dont u think when more ppl come to the local ammoshop that the price for ammo at the local shop will drop to the level of online shops because you know the supply/demand model, demand lower price when the demand for ammo increase?


Probably the opposite will happen. The demand is gonna go up because people can't get it online any more, so the price will go.

I feel this is a step in the right direction anyway, gun laws in America are ridiculous. They should ban them altogether. The whole 'I need to defend my family' is a bullshit argument as well. Other countries are fine without guns, what makes you so special.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
February 02 2010 14:49 GMT
#24
On February 02 2010 23:47 ggrrg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2010 23:41 Zoler wrote:
On February 02 2010 23:13 theron[wdt] wrote:
no its not. In my opinion, there will always be a way for the common criminal to get his/her bullets, whether it be straw purchase or theft. There shouldn't be consequences for people who have a clean record for somebody who has a shitty one.


This is the common fail/misconception for people who is for weapons.


So true. I recall that situation in Germany when two students decided to do the same that happened at Columbine. Well, the only difference was that wanted to go for a massacre with two crossbows and two soft air pistols...


Examples like that, yep! There are studies and it's a fact that laws against guns makes the killing rates go down. How can you argue against SCIENCE!?
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
February 02 2010 14:49 GMT
#25
On February 02 2010 23:44 choboPEon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2010 23:34 DanceCommander wrote:
On February 02 2010 23:33 ggrrg wrote:
That's a first step. But there are a few more to go until the US gets rid of that obsolete relic in their Constitution.

just because you guys have viktor krum doesn't mean you can criticize our constitution


no, actually, anyone can criticize our constitution. that's the point of the constitution.

Krum caught the snitch, but Ireland still won.. Hows that for a mindfuck
theron[wdt]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States395 Posts
February 02 2010 14:51 GMT
#26
On February 02 2010 23:47 deconduo wrote:

I feel this is a step in the right direction anyway, gun laws in America are ridiculous. They should ban them altogether. The whole 'I need to defend my family' is a bullshit argument as well. Other countries are fine without guns, what makes you so special.


as stated before, i shoot competitively and for fun. to me nothing is more stress relieving than hitting a target at 100 yards. I don't give a flying fuck about the "i need to defend my family" bullshit. Thats the reason God gave us the ability use fists.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
February 02 2010 14:52 GMT
#27
On February 02 2010 23:49 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2010 23:47 ggrrg wrote:
On February 02 2010 23:41 Zoler wrote:
On February 02 2010 23:13 theron[wdt] wrote:
no its not. In my opinion, there will always be a way for the common criminal to get his/her bullets, whether it be straw purchase or theft. There shouldn't be consequences for people who have a clean record for somebody who has a shitty one.


This is the common fail/misconception for people who is for weapons.


So true. I recall that situation in Germany when two students decided to do the same that happened at Columbine. Well, the only difference was that wanted to go for a massacre with two crossbows and two soft air pistols...


Examples like that, yep! There are studies and it's a fact that laws against guns makes the killing rates go down. How can you argue against SCIENCE!?

conservatives vs science, the way it has always been.
Unstable
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden64 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-02 15:02:46
February 02 2010 15:01 GMT
#28
On February 02 2010 23:49 Zoler wrote:
Examples like that, yep! There are studies and it's a fact that laws against guns makes the killing rates go down. How can you argue against SCIENCE!?

There's correlation, but no direct causality between the two. Removing weapons reduces killings, but it doesn't stop them. ergo; it's only a contributing factor.

It's possible to argue that there are other/better methods than those that conflict with a free market.
If it involves luck, skill and money ... Im probably already playing it.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 02 2010 15:03 GMT
#29
On February 02 2010 23:51 theron[wdt] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2010 23:47 deconduo wrote:

I feel this is a step in the right direction anyway, gun laws in America are ridiculous. They should ban them altogether. The whole 'I need to defend my family' is a bullshit argument as well. Other countries are fine without guns, what makes you so special.


as stated before, i shoot competitively and for fun. to me nothing is more stress relieving than hitting a target at 100 yards. I don't give a flying fuck about the "i need to defend my family" bullshit. Thats the reason God gave us the ability use fists.


So the only reason you don't like it is because you can't order online. I mean, tough luck, it sucks for you but thats the way it should be. I want beer to be free, but its not. Who cares, move on.
exeexe
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark937 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-02 15:10:20
February 02 2010 15:09 GMT
#30
On February 02 2010 23:47 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2010 23:38 exeexe wrote:
Dont u think when more ppl come to the local ammoshop that the price for ammo at the local shop will drop to the level of online shops because you know the supply/demand model, demand lower price when the demand for ammo increase?


Probably the opposite will happen. The demand is gonna go up because people can't get it online any more, so the price will go.


yes you are right, i screwed it up, thx for the correction. I always screw it up when there are 2 options T.T
And never forget, its always easier to throw a bomb downstairs than up. - George Orwell
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
February 02 2010 15:13 GMT
#31
On February 02 2010 23:51 theron[wdt] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2010 23:47 deconduo wrote:

I feel this is a step in the right direction anyway, gun laws in America are ridiculous. They should ban them altogether. The whole 'I need to defend my family' is a bullshit argument as well. Other countries are fine without guns, what makes you so special.


as stated before, i shoot competitively and for fun. to me nothing is more stress relieving than hitting a target at 100 yards. I don't give a flying fuck about the "i need to defend my family" bullshit. Thats the reason God gave us the ability use fists.

As it turns out, you picked the hobby that's for killing people.

That you're not using it to kill people is a good thing, but it doesn't render government interest somehow unreasonable.
My strategy is to fork people.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
February 02 2010 15:18 GMT
#32
On February 03 2010 00:13 Severedevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2010 23:51 theron[wdt] wrote:
On February 02 2010 23:47 deconduo wrote:

I feel this is a step in the right direction anyway, gun laws in America are ridiculous. They should ban them altogether. The whole 'I need to defend my family' is a bullshit argument as well. Other countries are fine without guns, what makes you so special.


as stated before, i shoot competitively and for fun. to me nothing is more stress relieving than hitting a target at 100 yards. I don't give a flying fuck about the "i need to defend my family" bullshit. Thats the reason God gave us the ability use fists.

As it turns out, you picked the hobby that's for killing people.

That you're not using it to kill people is a good thing, but it doesn't render government interest somehow unreasonable.

you know that shooting competitions isnt a hobby that kills people. its fucking ridculous just because california cant get its gangproblem under control that they must punish legitimate gun owners.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Rho_
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States971 Posts
February 02 2010 15:18 GMT
#33
On February 02 2010 23:51 theron[wdt] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2010 23:47 deconduo wrote:

I feel this is a step in the right direction anyway, gun laws in America are ridiculous. They should ban them altogether. The whole 'I need to defend my family' is a bullshit argument as well. Other countries are fine without guns, what makes you so special.


as stated before, i shoot competitively and for fun. to me nothing is more stress relieving than hitting a target at 100 yards. I don't give a flying fuck about the "i need to defend my family" bullshit. Thats the reason God gave us the ability use fists.


So reload. This comes down to the fact that you're lazy, not that the law is stupid. You have a low cost alternative, but you're too lazy to do it. You should pay more.
2on2
Profile Joined April 2009
United States142 Posts
February 02 2010 15:23 GMT
#34
how far are u from stateline? get a po box out of state
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
February 02 2010 15:26 GMT
#35
On February 03 2010 00:13 Severedevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2010 23:51 theron[wdt] wrote:
On February 02 2010 23:47 deconduo wrote:

I feel this is a step in the right direction anyway, gun laws in America are ridiculous. They should ban them altogether. The whole 'I need to defend my family' is a bullshit argument as well. Other countries are fine without guns, what makes you so special.


as stated before, i shoot competitively and for fun. to me nothing is more stress relieving than hitting a target at 100 yards. I don't give a flying fuck about the "i need to defend my family" bullshit. Thats the reason God gave us the ability use fists.

As it turns out, you picked the hobby that's for killing people.

That you're not using it to kill people is a good thing, but it doesn't render government interest somehow unreasonable.

Archery? Fencing? Martial arts? What do you think these were inspired by?

I think there should be restrictions on specific types of weapons, likely not what the OP is using for sport, but I do think this law is unfair and will be quite ineffectual. If someone wants to buy bullets without being tracked, they can just have someone else do it for them. If the prices go up, it'll boost the secondary market that already contains less reliable/safe products.
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Intr3pid
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Switzerland336 Posts
February 02 2010 15:27 GMT
#36
Amercians and guns, the only but really greatly pathetic thing about your country.
enzym
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany1034 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-02 15:35:16
February 02 2010 15:32 GMT
#37
On February 03 2010 00:01 Unstable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2010 23:49 Zoler wrote:
Examples like that, yep! There are studies and it's a fact that laws against guns makes the killing rates go down. How can you argue against SCIENCE!?

There's correlation, but no direct causality between the two. Removing weapons reduces killings, but it doesn't stop them. ergo; it's only a contributing factor.

It's possible to argue that there are other/better methods than those that conflict with a free market.

good post.

thats what people should be thinking about.

i somehow find myself liking both sides of this.
the one says: the value of life can only be as high as the lowest price for 1 bullet. so why are people complaining at all? shouldnt they be celebrating?

the other one says: maybe id be a good thing to have guns available for free to anyone, to have more murders and massacres occur until people realize that it is them who are screwed up, not the law. they dont seem to have noticed it yet at all, despite all the things that have happened.
"guns dont kill people. people do." actually isnt that far from the truth.

the problem for the legislature is to find an affordable (cheap) way to improve the situation, in this case reduce the number of shootings and armed robberies. less people will get hurt less, but the root problem, namely the impulse and willingness to harm or threaten others for your own benefit isnt touched by that at all.
but you cant have people monitoring and counseling everyone to get rid of that (for practical reasons. i do think we should have something like that.)

On February 03 2010 00:01 Unstable wrote:
It's possible to argue that there are other/better methods than those that conflict with a free market.

here is your chance.
"I fart a lot, often on my gf in bed, then we roll around laughing for 5 mins choking in gas." — exog // "…be'master, the art of reflection. If you are not a thinking man, to what purpose are you a man at all?" — S. T. Coleridge
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
February 02 2010 15:40 GMT
#38
Honest question: why does everyone from outside the US hate guns so much? Do schools in your country drill into your heads that guns are bad? Do your parents sit you down and scare you straight about guns when you're kids? Do you think that Hollywood movies accurately portray America's gun culture?

The fact is that most Americans don't own guns, have never fired a gun, and will never be threatened by a gun, but it seems like every European and Canadian on the Internet thinks the US is the wild west with shoot-outs on the streets every day. Obviously there are Americans who dislike guns as well, but they never seem so vehemently against them.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
statix
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States1760 Posts
February 02 2010 15:40 GMT
#39
Gun laws do nothing but take protection away from those who don't intend to or have the capacity to harm someone. Those who wish to commit crimes and take lives with firearms will always find a means of doing so.

I sure as hell know that if professors were allowed to carry concealed weapons I wouldn't plan on shooting up a school and the school shootings that do and will continue to occur will be a lot less successful.
SCC-Caliban
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
February 02 2010 15:41 GMT
#40
So just because some crimes is bound to happen it means you shouldn't try at all?
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
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