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Listen here
Mark Levin's Wed Jul 8 Broadcast
I am truly interested to see just how many people actually listen and are open to factual evidence and philosophical commentary.
Yes, even I the staunch right-winger listen to NPR and CNN, and MSNBC. You then look at CBO and GAO reports and the dealings in the political realm and it's quite astonishing. Yes, I even listen to Alex Jones and other libertarian hosts like Glenn Beck.
Anyways, the reason why I picked this episode is because out of the years I've been a huge Levininite this is perhaps his best episode ever. It captures what is happening in todays society so poignantly and explores the philosophical approach and ramifications.
Put away your bias's for 2 hours and truly listen. You may be surprised.
P.S. Any troll responses will get banned from this blog, I'm open to legitimate debate, not 'witty' sarcastic jabs by 16 year olds.
 
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On July 11 2009 02:17 Aegraen wrote:
P.S. Any troll responses will get banned from this blog, I'm open to legitimate debate, not 'witty' sarcastic jabs by 16 year olds.
"Don't disagree with me or I'll ban you"
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lol...... Just for shits, i'm listening... 5 minutes in and I haven't heard anything I agree w/ yet 
gonna keep listening.
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I can't listen to this rabid neocon trash with an open mind. I have to close it, lest any of it try to get in, because this guy doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
How about a radio show host that talks about energy efficiency, instead of the intricacies of rotted and corrupt american oligocracy?
Ok, I actually agree with 1 thing he said, 99% of the hacks in congress haven't the slightest clue about a normal workplace, and they are mostly ivy league lawyer trash with a sense of self-importance that never cares about the mainstream american, because they've never met them.
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"Conservatism is on the rise for two reasons, first: 'we're right'; second: 'statism has failed.'"
LOL
Why does this guy talk at like 30wpm.
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On July 11 2009 02:40 MiniRoman wrote:
"Conservatism is on the rise for two reasons, first: 'we're right'; second: 'statism has failed.'"
LOL
Why does this guy talk at like 30wpm.
I think its slower than that. I couldnt stand to listen to him after like the 15th pause... which was about 25 words in.
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On July 11 2009 02:35 Motiva wrote:lol...... Just for shits, i'm listening... 5 minutes in and I haven't heard anything I agree w/ yet gonna keep listening.
So, giving money to states from Federal funds to pay for their budgets creates jobs?
Let's just skip ahead also to the philosophical approach, how am I represented in the other 49 states? I am a resident of Florida. I only have representation in the legislature and government of Florida, not California, Michigan, Oregon, why should money that is directly appropriated from myself to the goliath cesspool of inefficiency in the Capital be handed away to people who don't understand a budget. It is inherently wrong and was the whole point to the American Revolution.
These states where I have no voice can do whatever they want and I have zero say. Period. No federal money should be going to these states for budgetary needs.
Your thoughts on the matter?
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I love people who use the word "open mind". You know right off the bat they're hypocritical. No self respecting person has to use it to refer to an idea and portray it to others. An open mind suggests there is no right or wrong, just believe what is proven. Nothing in politics is ever proven.
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On July 11 2009 02:48 Railz wrote:
I love people who use the word "open mind". You know right off the bat they're hypocritical. No self respecting person has to use it to refer to an idea and portray it to others. An open mind suggests there is no right or wrong, just believe what is proven. Nothing in politics is ever proven.
Seems as though I would disagree.
The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases.
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Why do you try so hard to convince everyone to see your ultra-conservative way? Do you feel like you have something to prove or do you actually think you'll convince anyone on an e-sports site to see your way?
I think we all know at this point that you're super-conservative while posting on a probably a mostly liberal site. I'm not quite sure I see the point.
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On July 11 2009 02:50 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2009 02:48 Railz wrote:
I love people who use the word "open mind". You know right off the bat they're hypocritical. No self respecting person has to use it to refer to an idea and portray it to others. An open mind suggests there is no right or wrong, just believe what is proven. Nothing in politics is ever proven. Seems as though I would disagree. The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases.
What about personal liberties which a local majority infringe upon. The Government is good at increasing liberty in some areas through intervention, such as sexuality and religion.
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On July 11 2009 02:43 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2009 02:35 Motiva wrote:lol...... Just for shits, i'm listening... 5 minutes in and I haven't heard anything I agree w/ yet gonna keep listening. So, giving money to states from Federal funds to pay for their budgets creates jobs? Let's just skip ahead also to the philosophical approach, how am I represented in the other 49 states? I am a resident of Florida. I only have representation in the legislature and government of Florida, not California, Michigan, Oregon, why should money that is directly appropriated from myself to the goliath cesspool of inefficiency in the Capital be handed away to people who don't understand a budget. It is inherently wrong and was the whole point to the American Revolution. These states where I have no voice can do whatever they want and I have zero say. Period. No federal money should be going to these states for budgetary needs. Your thoughts on the matter?
Love thy neighbour.
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"Conservatism is on the rise...we are right."
How could you expect any liberal to take this cast seriously after hearing those lines. He is basically saying that "this is going to be ridiculously biased"
thx for trying
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American politics, always fun to listen to and discuss, yay!
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On July 11 2009 02:50 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2009 02:48 Railz wrote:
I love people who use the word "open mind". You know right off the bat they're hypocritical. No self respecting person has to use it to refer to an idea and portray it to others. An open mind suggests there is no right or wrong, just believe what is proven. Nothing in politics is ever proven. Seems as though I would disagree. The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases.
That doesn't matter. The amount of liberty doesn't equate to anything. It makes for a better way of life individually perhaps, but those in China have no problem against this till they're blue in the face as you would be too.
Liberty equates to nothing in politics.
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Sometimes people open their minds too much and their brains fall out.
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On July 11 2009 03:16 Railz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2009 02:50 Aegraen wrote:On July 11 2009 02:48 Railz wrote:
I love people who use the word "open mind". You know right off the bat they're hypocritical. No self respecting person has to use it to refer to an idea and portray it to others. An open mind suggests there is no right or wrong, just believe what is proven. Nothing in politics is ever proven. Seems as though I would disagree. The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases. That doesn't matter. The amount of liberty doesn't equate to anything. It makes for a better way of life individually perhaps, but those in China have no problem against this till they're blue in the face as you would be too. Liberty equates to nothing in politics.
Freedom and Liberty is the sole reason for the American Revolution. If you so despise your albeit more and more limited version of freedom and liberty, well there are countries that have vastly inferior freedom and liberty.
The US Constitution sole purpose is to secure the rights, freedoms, and liberty of the people. The Articles of Confederation were inadequate at securing these liberties so that is why they were scrapped for the Constitution.
Philosophy is everything in politics. Utilitarianism only ends up with millions killed. It has in every single case throughout history.
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On July 11 2009 03:34 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2009 03:16 Railz wrote:On July 11 2009 02:50 Aegraen wrote:On July 11 2009 02:48 Railz wrote:
I love people who use the word "open mind". You know right off the bat they're hypocritical. No self respecting person has to use it to refer to an idea and portray it to others. An open mind suggests there is no right or wrong, just believe what is proven. Nothing in politics is ever proven. Seems as though I would disagree. The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases. That doesn't matter. The amount of liberty doesn't equate to anything. It makes for a better way of life individually perhaps, but those in China have no problem against this till they're blue in the face as you would be too. Liberty equates to nothing in politics. Freedom and Liberty is the sole reason for the American Revolution. If you so despise your albeit more and more limited version of freedom and liberty, well there are countries that have vastly inferior freedom and liberty. The US Constitution sole purpose is to secure the rights, freedoms, and liberty of the people. The Articles of Confederation were inadequate at securing these liberties so that is why they were scrapped for the Constitution. Philosophy is everything in politics. Utilitarianism only ends up with millions killed. It has in every single case throughout history.
Again, you're just pointing to politics that you view as superior as the 'right' way. You ignore the fact that Democracies can fall prey to Utilitarianism easily under the guise of Nationalism. Point in case, Hitler was democratically elected and right after, created the Enabling Act.
Democracies destroy minorities just as much as any other form of government; Native Americans, Japanese Americans for example. also Hurricane Katrina isn't the exception, just another point in case of how easy minorities can be cast aside.
Side note: I don't believe in Affirmative Action, as much as I sound like I'm pushing for minority power, I don't believe they should get more rights then the majority or anyone else obviously; just the same guaranteed protection
Anyway..
The US Constitution doesn't guarantee anything as it interpreted by 9 people. How is it one year the equal protection clause may be seen one way and in 50 years, in another way. The only thing the Constitution guarantees is three branches of government. Everything else can be debated. It is impressive that 200 years it is still referred to as, but it has long become a crutch when looked to for modern laws in an age where information, not people, is power.
China maybe have issues in its own borders about 'millions killed' but democratic countries seem to be getting their fill on foreign soil lately.
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On July 11 2009 02:17 Aegraen wrote:
libertarian hosts like Glenn Beck.
wtf? I've only ever heard him express decidedly conservative viewpoints.
But I guess the spectrum of what falls under "libertarianism" is pretty broad. I'm more left-libertarian myself.
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