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NonY
8748 Posts
On February 27 2009 12:00 NoobsOfWrath wrote: Well, obviously it's an economic choice. That hardly prevents us from saying it's stupid as hell. he didn't say it was stupid. he said it wasnt helpful | ||
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Ganfei
Taiwan1439 Posts
On February 27 2009 12:25 Liquid`NonY wrote: he didn't say it was stupid. he said it wasnt helpful I fail to see what you are quoting me repeatedly and then disagreeing with me for. If you want to, you can think of what I am saying as my own disconnected opinion. I think that A Rod being paid that much money is ridiculous and stupid, regardless of whatever rationalization can be made regarding financial gain as a result of publicity, or the entertainment value of professional sports. Good? | ||
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food
United States1951 Posts
On February 27 2009 11:22 Osmoses wrote: So far I've never had to waiter tables or wash dishes or flip hamburgers or anything like that, I've pretty much been in school all my life. Hopefully, the education I'll have on paper after all this time will allow me to skip the whole "paying my dues" work. so happened you live in Sweden. Lucky/unlucky you nothing wrong with working shit jobs. Id think someone who had to grind his way up trying to survive working shitty jobs to pay for his college will have a lot more respect in my eyes then someone with a clean path into his "future" what does a person know about life if he hasnt seen it anyways | ||
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Kaotu
United States986 Posts
My whole thing on doctors/lawyers/athletes was not a slam on athletes. It was a slam on all three, and the fact that the more dignified and honored your work is, the more you also get lavished with cash. Dish washing (and many other similar jobs) is a terrible job and gets terrible compensation in every conceivable aspect. People become lawyers and doctors to make money and get people to suck their egos. Also, to say entertainment is something "priceless" is ridiculous. You're thinking of art, not the consumer-made form of it which we consume at such a predictably rapid rate. | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
On February 27 2009 12:36 Kaotu wrote: My whole thing on doctors/lawyers/athletes was not a slam on athletes. It was a slam on all three, and the fact that the more dignified and honored your work is, the more you also get lavished with cash. Dish washing (and many other similar jobs) is a terrible job and gets terrible compensation in every conceivable aspect. People become lawyers and doctors to make money and get people to suck their egos. The reason doctors, lawyers, and athletes get paid so much is they either have rare talent or have put in immense dedication to be any good at what they do. Dishwashers don't have to know a damn thing to do their job, and if they are the best in the world at it, nobody cares because it doesn't make much of a difference. So I think instead of knocking them, you should respect people with the ambition and work ethic required to become good at what they do. If you don't think professional football players push themselves harder than dishwashers, then you are mistaken. | ||
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theonemephisto
United States409 Posts
On February 27 2009 12:36 Kaotu wrote: Oh I feel like an important clarification is in order: My whole thing on doctors/lawyers/athletes was not a slam on athletes. It was a slam on all three, and the fact that the more dignified and honored your work is, the more you also get lavished with cash. Dish washing (and many other similar jobs) is a terrible job and gets terrible compensation in every conceivable aspect. People become lawyers and doctors to make money and get people to suck their egos. Also, to say entertainment is something "priceless" is ridiculous. You're thinking of art, not the consumer-made form of it which we consume at such a predictably rapid rate. Think of it like this, the more value that other individuals put on your work, and the more skills/training/difficulties that it takes to do your work, the more you're going to get paid. Basic supply and demand. People place a lot of value on the services that doctors, lawyers, and athletes provide, and there is relatively constricted supply of people who can provide these services, whether due to required training, commitment, intelligence, or natural ability. High demand, low supply, therefore we get high price. On the other side, there might be high demand for dishwashers, but literally anyone can wash dishes with minimal training. Therefore, compensation is going to be "terrible". Anything beyond that is just bitching. You can slam the professions, the people that go into those professions, the people that value those services, or the society that encourages people to value those services, but no one really cares and nothing is going to change. Individuals decide what they want, people respond to the incentives or supply and demand. | ||
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BalliSLife
1339 Posts
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Kaotu
United States986 Posts
On February 27 2009 12:52 theonemephisto wrote: Think of it like this, the more value that other individuals put on your work, and the more skills/training/difficulties that it takes to do your work, the more you're going to get paid. Basic supply and demand. People place a lot of value on the services that doctors, lawyers, and athletes provide, and there is relatively constricted supply of people who can provide these services, whether due to required training, commitment, intelligence, or natural ability. High demand, low supply, therefore we get high price. On the other side, there might be high demand for dishwashers, but literally anyone can wash dishes with minimal training. Therefore, compensation is going to be "terrible". Anything beyond that is just bitching. You can slam the professions, the people that go into those professions, the people that value those services, or the society that encourages people to value those services, but no one really cares and nothing is going to change. Individuals decide what they want, people respond to the incentives or supply and demand. Oh that's how it works | ||
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
People become lawyers and doctors to make money and get people to suck their egos. So I'm in med school cause I want to make lots and lots of money and have everyone look up to me and think I'm awesome? Way to make a huge and false generalisation. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
People become lawyers and doctors to make money and get people to suck their egos. Oh... thanks, now next time a doctor saves my life I can be all like "Thanks asshole, your a dick btw." | ||
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food
United States1951 Posts
On February 27 2009 12:52 theonemephisto wrote: Think of it like this, the more value that other individuals put on your work, and the more skills/training/difficulties that it takes to do your work, the more you're going to get paid. Basic supply and demand. People place a lot of value on the services that doctors, lawyers, and athletes provide, and there is relatively constricted supply of people who can provide these services, whether due to required training, commitment, intelligence, or natural ability. High demand, low supply, therefore we get high price. On the other side, there might be high demand for dishwashers, but literally anyone can wash dishes with minimal training. Therefore, compensation is going to be "terrible". Anything beyond that is just bitching. You can slam the professions, the people that go into those professions, the people that value those services, or the society that encourages people to value those services, but no one really cares and nothing is going to change. Individuals decide what they want, people respond to the incentives or supply and demand. pathetic whoever thinks that few select professions are not overpaid is clearly retarded esp athletes, i love how people defend football players salary while sitting in shitty houses that their hardworking parents struggled to afford, fucking spoiled people compare the money that football/baseball/etc player makes and the money that runners/weightlifters/gymnasts make. Is it fair? Did they work harder? Thats some horse shit that makes no sense. They not more "talented" or dedicated then other great sportsmen, i might even argue they LESS talented on average then known record holders in other sports, not that its measurable. and blabbing about the demand? NO RLY? THE WATER IS WET? i like the crai at the end lolol i wana pet you | ||
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alphafuzard
United States1610 Posts
On February 27 2009 16:06 food wrote: pathetic whoever thinks that few select professions are not overpaid is clearly retarded esp athletes, i love how people defend football players salary while sitting in shitty houses that their hardworking parents struggled to afford, fucking spoiled people compare the money that football/baseball/etc player makes and the money that runners/weightlifters/gymnasts make. Is it fair? Did they work harder? Thats some horse shit that makes no sense. They not more "talented" or dedicated then other great sportsmen, i might even argue they LESS talented on average then known record holders in other sports, not that its measurable. and blabbing about the demand? NO RLY? THE WATER IS WET? i like the crai at the end lolol i wana pet you It's the same in any profession, some fields reward better than others. Its a helluva lot harder to get a job in physics than in biomed due to a sheer lacking in positions. edit: On February 27 2009 12:36 Kaotu wrote: People become lawyers and doctors to make money and get people to suck their egos. Huh, I always thought doctors were there to save lives. Silly me. | ||
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gchan
United States654 Posts
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