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Canada11217 Posts
Why would we be one state? Westcanadia Midwestcanadia Torontonia Frenchcanadia Easternseaboardcanadia
Trump wouldn't be laughing so much then with that many states joining, upsetting the Senate and Electoral balance between Republicans and Democrats. Rigged! Rigged he would cry and then try and overthrow another election.
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Osaka27105 Posts
On December 17 2024 22:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Most people in Mississauga, Toronto, the GTA etc already have options outside the country.
Posts like this are in such bad faith. Your youtube algorithm must be hideous.
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On December 18 2024 15:48 Manifesto7 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2024 22:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Most people in Mississauga, Toronto, the GTA etc already have options outside the country.
Posts like this are in such bad faith. Your youtube algorithm must be hideous. how often you been to Toronto?
49% of the Toronto metropolitan area's population was born outside of Canada. Mississauga's population is falling. Mississauga is a city filled with economic immigrants. When the economy goes bad... they leave. so umm , ya.
of the other 51% ... its pretty much guaranteed that a substantial % in that 51% have options outside Canada. You'd know this if you spent any time in the Greater Toronto Area.
So, I'd say it is an accurate post. It is not a bad faith post. Toronto is declining fast.
Toronto's child poverty rate jumped from 16.8 per cent to 25.3 per cent between 2020 and 2022. I can't blame any one for wanting out of Toronto. https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/1-in-10-torontonians-now-using-food-bank-amid-skyrocketing-costs-stagnate-wages-report-1.6644180
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Osaka27105 Posts
Well since I was born there (KWCG), as was my father, and half my family lives there, which I visit every year, maybe you should stop posting things like "You'd know this if you spent any time in the Greater Toronto Area."
The rest of your posts are just dog whistle bullshit.
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No, I think I've chronicled the decline of the city and the province accurately.
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Osaka27105 Posts
No, you haven't. You lack nuance and hide behind poorly cited percentages and numbers that don't show the human story.
But you aren't here for understanding, you are here to score points. Which is why all your posts are disingenuous. Which is why you are not well received.
I wonder what it is you actually get out of this. Maybe you would be better off spending your time elsewhere.
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On December 18 2024 16:33 Manifesto7 wrote: No, you haven't. You lack nuance and hide behind poorly cited percentages and numbers that don't show the human story. But you aren't here for understanding, you are here to score points. Which is why all your posts are disingenuous. Which is why you are not well received. I wonder what it is you actually get out of this. Maybe you would be better off spending your time elsewhere. is this a personal attack or a discussion about politics, leadership and politicians?
i provided the human story. Ontario's leadership is not as smart as it was decades ago. People like Bob Rae, Mike Harris, Mel Lastman and Hazel Mccallion are far smarter than Doug Ford, Olivia Chow and Carolyn Parrish.
On December 18 2024 16:33 Manifesto7 wrote: No, you haven't. You lack nuance and hide behind poorly cited percentages and numbers that don't show the human story.
If you want to add context to the skyrocketing child poverty rates in Toronto.. go for it.
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Canada, Australia and the UK after Covid went back to just importing huge numbers of people to keep nominal GDP increasing.Returns have been diminishing with record high immigration and anemic nominal GDP growth, not to mention limited housing , skyrocketing housing and rent prices and strain on healthcare and infrastructure due to the record breaking population increases.Surprising that Trudeau has been in almost 10 years, we've had 4 in that time and will be 5 next year.
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On December 18 2024 16:37 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Canada, Australia and the UK after Covid went back to just importing huge numbers of people to keep nominal GDP increasing.Returns have been diminishing with record high immigration and anemic nominal GDP growth, not to mention limited housing , skyrocketing housing and rent prices and strain on healthcare and infrastructure due to the record breaking population increases.Surprising that Trudeau has been in almost 10 years, we've had 4 in that time and will be 5 next year.
the problem particular to Ontario, Canada is that hydro rates skyrocketed after 2006. you could rent an apartment and they did not even charge for hydro in 2006. super low cost hydro is what drove Ontario's manufacturing sector. That is all gone now. Ontario was the economic engine of Canada. Ontario routinely took jobs away from every US state it bordered. That is no longer the case. Now the jobs are leaving Ontario.
So relative to the developed world including Australia and the UK... Canada is getting crushed. https://financialpost.com/news/canada-standard-of-living-falling-behind
On December 18 2024 16:37 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:Surprising that Trudeau has been in almost 10 years, we've had 4 in that time and will be 5 next year.
Trudeau is a big reason I left. He has been really bad. Additionally, I do not see any leaders within Canada's major parties who can pull off the kinds of stuff Pierre Elliot Trudeau and Jean Chretien pulled off... in decades past. Those guys were geniuses. Singh , Poliveire, and Trudeau are not nearly as smart as leaders like Broadbent, Clark, Mulroney, Chretien etc etc. So I do not see a path where Canada can be great again.
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On December 18 2024 09:11 Falling wrote: Why would we be one state? Westcanadia Midwestcanadia Torontonia Frenchcanadia Easternseaboardcanadia
Trump wouldn't be laughing so much then with that many states joining, upsetting the Senate and Electoral balance between Republicans and Democrats. Rigged! Rigged he would cry and then try and overthrow another election.
This cracked me up, if it is one big state he loses all the electoral college votes, and if it is 5 he wins maybe 1 sometimes. Hell Doug Ford is buddies with Walz.
As for the rest, I think if you are a fairly wealthy single guy the US looks appealing. Lower taxes and chance at higher wages. Then if you are a woman, not so much. And if you are thinking of having kids not so much, maybe if you are private school kind of wealthy, but the whole school shooting thing is pretty scary, you have the expense of pregnancy's and super shitty maternity. If you are not healthy it is basically a no go. I know 0 people looking to move to the US.
For JT, I think this was the final nail. My big question is where the Liberal votes go, Conservative or NDP. I would not at all be shocked by a Conservative gov with a NDP official opposition.
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