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On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? lol? did you skip HF post on purpose? Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) lolololololololololol
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On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Dandel Ion and Jock have a very good and healthy conversation. pages 8-10. None backed down. DI might come out on top. Don't like jock his persistence in pushing DI. Fine on new info but not sure if fine he keeps repeating something as weak as "DI didn't vote, very red"
I am ok with deconduo. Quoting him because I typed above but didn't post yet to see where JockDI went.
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On August 30 2022 18:30 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 03:20 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? Are you saying you are not town? Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 03:24 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb Are you talking of a past game or? Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote: [quote]
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? lol? did you skip HF post on purpose? Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially. -- Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote: [quote]
What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote: [quote]
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafiaThis player list: 1. Alakaslam 2. ShoCkeyy 4. Jockmcplop 3. Grackaroni 5. Tictock 6. Raynpelikoneet 7. Fecalfeast 8. Vivax 9. Hapahauli 10. Trfel Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game. Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first? Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:44 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote: [quote] Was wondering why you didn't address this post: [quote] But responded to the very next one: [quote] But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafiaThis player list: 1. Alakaslam 2. ShoCkeyy 4. Jockmcplop 3. Grackaroni 5. Tictock 6. Raynpelikoneet 7. Fecalfeast 8. Vivax 9. Hapahauli 10. Trfel Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game. Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first? I knew there was a game because you complained D:< a lot. I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players. And HF is/was pulling more of that string, Jock just said "I didn't get it either" and took your smartphone excuse while HF didn't. Above 3 quotes show 1) HF post 2) rayn pressure on CC 3) CC answer to rain on said pressure. Here I feel rayn tried to pressure CC on her "Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game." which implied that she asked the question to figure out the motive behind the HF post (aka scumhunting). Rayns pressure resulted in CC backtracking with "I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players." which again shows (ambiguous) she asked questions that are disconnected from actual scumhunting, while pretending she asks the questions because they are relevant to scumhunting. So Copcape
I wasn't "backtracking", it was an honest "I assumed"
D:<
If HF was in that game, I would have tunneled him inmediatly but he wasn't so I have no reason.
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Mosh blegh post in game:
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided: deconduo Alakaslam CopCake Tubesock Meapak_Ziphh raynpelikoneet Rels Mattchew
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation. Best post in game at that point (not anymore because I started posting):
On August 30 2022 09:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I am also down to lynch copcake for fluffposting.
Back to back. I don't know what to do with this. Is it mafia knowing they made a bleghish blegh blegh post and then try to redeem themselves with a bus in the next post?
My tinfoil hat tingles.
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A little summary of my thoughts on the start of the game before I went to bed, before i have look at the rest. Overall thoughts on dandel ion's start: I often end up in exchanges like that on day 1. For some reason people tend to post stuff that doesn't make sense from a town perspective, be openly and obviously evasive about answering questions, and invariably end up being town. He certainly doesn't appear to be 'hiding' the way i would expect mafia to, but I just can't get over how scummy some of his reasoning is. Its just a case what should we be paying attention to, the content of his posts or the fact that he was happy for the attention to remain on him while making it clear he wanted to lynch me or decon? I think on balance i'm leaning town tbh. I can put his reasoning down to just provoking responses as a way of scumhunting.
On August 30 2022 03:04 deconduo wrote: So we are definitely lynching Chezinu D1 right? Deconduo's first post. I'm calling it now. If one of decon or chezinu is mafia, the other is too. Like obviously we're never lynching chezinu on day one and posting this is a good way to get some suspicion on anyone who agrees with him and tries to lynch chez. Also, it might just be a joke post, but even if it is, i think its possible to make this connection from it.
Serious question to decon:
Can you go back through your posts, there's been plenty of them, and tell us which ones we can take seriously, except for the posts you make telling us not to take other posts seriously? Because it seems to me like every time you post something and someone comments on it, its either a joke post, or you didn't actually mean what you were saying, or its tongue in cheek. If you don't put your tongue back in its natural position sometime soon you're at a terrible risk of it getting stuck in your cheek.
Vivax normally comes straight into the game with reads and then sticks to them for the whole game. I know this because I'm usually on the receiving end. His posting so far all falls into the 'irrelevant' category, which bothers me. Its not very Vivax.
Rayn+hf both feel normal, but I wouldn't really lynch either on day 1 anyway.
Copcake is just neutral to me at the moment. She hasn't really questioned anyone or started to scumhunt. Its an awkward start, but not scummy per se.
So if I were to put this in list format it would be:
lean town: dandel ion
netural: copcake rayn hf
lean scum: vivax deconduo
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So you think Ziphh don't linking decundo's list is good or him not liking Jock's videos?
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On August 30 2022 12:36 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 11:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On August 30 2022 11:27 Tubesock wrote:On August 30 2022 11:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On August 30 2022 10:51 Tubesock wrote:On August 30 2022 09:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:There was so much discussion of this quote: On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb For my own clarity rayn, this was the section of the OP that made you make this comment right? Mafia roleblocker has precedence. If mafia roleblocker and jailkeeper target each other the jailkeeper's action will not be counted.
No, later Rayn said it was an inside joke. That he messed up. Ah my bad, I'll have to go reread that bit. On August 30 2022 10:53 Tubesock wrote:On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided: deconduo Alakaslam CopCake Tubesock Meapak_Ziphh raynpelikoneet Rels Mattchew
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation. But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game! Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me. I didn't really read it as a joke post, you hit my point spot on when you say the post only has 1 useful read. It's completely filler and adds nothing. Even if it's a joke, I get a lot more red vibes from that type of post than I do playful townie. To me, a townie jokes more along the lines of On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town It's harmless, in the first couple pages of the game, and unambiguous. I personally strongly dislike decon's "joke" here as well: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. Although since it's so early in the game I wasn't focused on it at first, I only saw it again when rereading for the HF post I quoted above. I like his joke list post better than Jock's quote every post try-hardness. They both move the thread a little forward at least. Putting HF as top town on one self claim post is pretty hilarious. Then essentially doing the opposite for Vivax bussing absent Koshi is pretty funny too. And of course the Chezinu read is spot on too. Now we can wait and see who nitpicks him for it and why. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this for now, considering you've also got issues with jock's posting as well I'm definitely interested in hearing more of what you've got to say. Any thoughts so far on copcake? Personally not loving what I'm seeing there. Because it's first 24 hours or so I'll pass his nitpicking since everyone has to basically nitpick due to there not being any content around. His tryharding seemed a bit over the top to me, but moving the thread a bit and trying to make content outweighs that. It does set him up for more scrutiny later though. If he's not town then it'll get harder and harder for him to keep pace or produce anything of substance. I remember Copcake showed up. I don't remember anything about her posts. Which doesn't really mean anything to me yet.
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On August 30 2022 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
Serious question to decon:
Can you go back through your posts, there's been plenty of them, and tell us which ones we can take seriously, except for the posts you make telling us not to take other posts seriously? Because it seems to me like every time you post something and someone comments on it, its either a joke post, or you didn't actually mean what you were saying, or its tongue in cheek. If you don't put your tongue back in its natural position sometime soon you're at a terrible risk of it getting stuck in your cheek.
None of them are particularly serious, but they are meant to ruffle feathers a bit. How people respond to them is always interesting. We have plenty of time left in the day for more serious posts, and shitposts do help get some insights on day one
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On August 30 2022 16:01 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided: deconduo Alakaslam CopCake Tubesock Meapak_Ziphh raynpelikoneet Rels Mattchew
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation. You know his list is just a joke, right? And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it. Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it. Asking questions is a towny tell in her head. Might be why she posts so many as mafia.
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On August 30 2022 19:06 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 18:30 Koshi wrote:On August 30 2022 03:20 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? Are you saying you are not town? On August 30 2022 03:24 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb Are you talking of a past game or? On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] lol? did you skip HF post on purpose? Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially. -- On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote: [quote] Was wondering why you didn't address this post: [quote] But responded to the very next one: [quote] But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafiaThis player list: 1. Alakaslam 2. ShoCkeyy 4. Jockmcplop 3. Grackaroni 5. Tictock 6. Raynpelikoneet 7. Fecalfeast 8. Vivax 9. Hapahauli 10. Trfel Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game. Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first? On August 30 2022 05:44 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote: [quote]
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafiaThis player list: 1. Alakaslam 2. ShoCkeyy 4. Jockmcplop 3. Grackaroni 5. Tictock 6. Raynpelikoneet 7. Fecalfeast 8. Vivax 9. Hapahauli 10. Trfel Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game. Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first? I knew there was a game because you complained D:< a lot. I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players. And HF is/was pulling more of that string, Jock just said "I didn't get it either" and took your smartphone excuse while HF didn't. Above 3 quotes show 1) HF post 2) rayn pressure on CC 3) CC answer to rain on said pressure. Here I feel rayn tried to pressure CC on her "Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game." which implied that she asked the question to figure out the motive behind the HF post (aka scumhunting). Rayns pressure resulted in CC backtracking with "I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players." which again shows (ambiguous) she asked questions that are disconnected from actual scumhunting, while pretending she asks the questions because they are relevant to scumhunting. So Copcape I wasn't "backtracking", it was an honest "I assumed" D:< If HF was in that game, I would have tunneled him inmediatly but he wasn't so I have no reason. Explain why please.
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On August 30 2022 19:30 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 19:06 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 18:30 Koshi wrote:On August 30 2022 03:20 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? Are you saying you are not town? On August 30 2022 03:24 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb Are you talking of a past game or? On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote: [quote] did you skip HF post on purpose? Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially. -- On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote: [quote]
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafiaThis player list: 1. Alakaslam 2. ShoCkeyy 4. Jockmcplop 3. Grackaroni 5. Tictock 6. Raynpelikoneet 7. Fecalfeast 8. Vivax 9. Hapahauli 10. Trfel Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game. Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first? On August 30 2022 05:44 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote: [quote] He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafiaThis player list: 1. Alakaslam 2. ShoCkeyy 4. Jockmcplop 3. Grackaroni 5. Tictock 6. Raynpelikoneet 7. Fecalfeast 8. Vivax 9. Hapahauli 10. Trfel Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game. Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first? I knew there was a game because you complained D:< a lot. I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players. And HF is/was pulling more of that string, Jock just said "I didn't get it either" and took your smartphone excuse while HF didn't. Above 3 quotes show 1) HF post 2) rayn pressure on CC 3) CC answer to rain on said pressure. Here I feel rayn tried to pressure CC on her "Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game." which implied that she asked the question to figure out the motive behind the HF post (aka scumhunting). Rayns pressure resulted in CC backtracking with "I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players." which again shows (ambiguous) she asked questions that are disconnected from actual scumhunting, while pretending she asks the questions because they are relevant to scumhunting. So Copcape I wasn't "backtracking", it was an honest "I assumed" D:< If HF was in that game, I would have tunneled him inmediatly but he wasn't so I have no reason. Explain why please.
Because it would have been dumb/odd of him to continue to tunnel rayn on that if he was in the game, specially when he explained it was a phone derp.
And I will continue to ask questions, for example: Is it my meta to do this as mafia? How is the "town copcake"?
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On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided: deconduo Alakaslam CopCake Tubesock Meapak_Ziphh raynpelikoneet Rels Mattchew
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
But... but it wasn't serious!
On August 30 2022 09:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I am also down to lynch copcake for fluffposting.
Naaaah. I'd like to see more from copcake but it doesn't really feel like she's started to play properly yet.
On August 30 2022 09:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:There was so much discussion of this quote: Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb For my own clarity rayn, this was the section of the OP that made you make this comment right? Show nested quote +Mafia roleblocker has precedence. If mafia roleblocker and jailkeeper target each other the jailkeeper's action will not be counted.
It was in reference to a previous game, not the OP. Anyway, I agree, far too much discussion of that post.
On August 30 2022 10:53 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided: deconduo Alakaslam CopCake Tubesock Meapak_Ziphh raynpelikoneet Rels Mattchew
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation. But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game! Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me. What does playful mean though? Is it necessarily a town trait? I don't really think so. You can be too playful, and as MZ says, end up not really contributing.
On August 30 2022 11:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 10:51 Tubesock wrote:On August 30 2022 09:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:There was so much discussion of this quote: On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb For my own clarity rayn, this was the section of the OP that made you make this comment right? Mafia roleblocker has precedence. If mafia roleblocker and jailkeeper target each other the jailkeeper's action will not be counted.
No, later Rayn said it was an inside joke. That he messed up. Ah my bad, I'll have to go reread that bit. Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 10:53 Tubesock wrote:On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided: deconduo Alakaslam CopCake Tubesock Meapak_Ziphh raynpelikoneet Rels Mattchew
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation. But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game! Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me. I didn't really read it as a joke post, you hit my point spot on when you say the post only has 1 useful read. It's completely filler and adds nothing. Even if it's a joke, I get a lot more red vibes from that type of post than I do playful townie. To me, a townie jokes more along the lines of It's harmless, in the first couple pages of the game, and unambiguous. I personally strongly dislike decon's "joke" here as well: Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. Although since it's so early in the game I wasn't focused on it at first, I only saw it again when rereading for the HF post I quoted above.
I don't know how you get that HF's post here is 'townie joking'. Anyone can claim town with their first post, it tells us nothing. Other than that I agree with what you're saying about decon.
On August 30 2022 11:27 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 11:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On August 30 2022 10:51 Tubesock wrote:On August 30 2022 09:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:There was so much discussion of this quote: On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb For my own clarity rayn, this was the section of the OP that made you make this comment right? Mafia roleblocker has precedence. If mafia roleblocker and jailkeeper target each other the jailkeeper's action will not be counted.
No, later Rayn said it was an inside joke. That he messed up. Ah my bad, I'll have to go reread that bit. On August 30 2022 10:53 Tubesock wrote:On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided: deconduo Alakaslam CopCake Tubesock Meapak_Ziphh raynpelikoneet Rels Mattchew
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation. But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game! Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me. I didn't really read it as a joke post, you hit my point spot on when you say the post only has 1 useful read. It's completely filler and adds nothing. Even if it's a joke, I get a lot more red vibes from that type of post than I do playful townie. To me, a townie jokes more along the lines of On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town It's harmless, in the first couple pages of the game, and unambiguous. I personally strongly dislike decon's "joke" here as well: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. Although since it's so early in the game I wasn't focused on it at first, I only saw it again when rereading for the HF post I quoted above. I like his joke list post better than Jock's quote every post try-hardness. They both move the thread a little forward at least. Putting HF as top town on one self claim post is pretty hilarious. Then essentially doing the opposite for Vivax bussing absent Koshi is pretty funny too. And of course the Chezinu read is spot on too. Now we can wait and see who nitpicks him for it and why.
I really dislike this bolded sentence. Say what you want about the reads list, but framing it as 'anyone who questions it is nitpicking' is a level of protection above what is necessary or useful.
On August 30 2022 12:36 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 11:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On August 30 2022 11:27 Tubesock wrote:On August 30 2022 11:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On August 30 2022 10:51 Tubesock wrote:On August 30 2022 09:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:There was so much discussion of this quote: On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb For my own clarity rayn, this was the section of the OP that made you make this comment right? Mafia roleblocker has precedence. If mafia roleblocker and jailkeeper target each other the jailkeeper's action will not be counted.
No, later Rayn said it was an inside joke. That he messed up. Ah my bad, I'll have to go reread that bit. On August 30 2022 10:53 Tubesock wrote:On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided: deconduo Alakaslam CopCake Tubesock Meapak_Ziphh raynpelikoneet Rels Mattchew
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation. But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game! Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me. I didn't really read it as a joke post, you hit my point spot on when you say the post only has 1 useful read. It's completely filler and adds nothing. Even if it's a joke, I get a lot more red vibes from that type of post than I do playful townie. To me, a townie jokes more along the lines of On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town It's harmless, in the first couple pages of the game, and unambiguous. I personally strongly dislike decon's "joke" here as well: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. Although since it's so early in the game I wasn't focused on it at first, I only saw it again when rereading for the HF post I quoted above. I like his joke list post better than Jock's quote every post try-hardness. They both move the thread a little forward at least. Putting HF as top town on one self claim post is pretty hilarious. Then essentially doing the opposite for Vivax bussing absent Koshi is pretty funny too. And of course the Chezinu read is spot on too. Now we can wait and see who nitpicks him for it and why. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this for now, considering you've also got issues with jock's posting as well I'm definitely interested in hearing more of what you've got to say. Any thoughts so far on copcake? Personally not loving what I'm seeing there. Because it's first 24 hours or so I'll pass his nitpicking since everyone has to basically nitpick due to there not being any content around. His tryharding seemed a bit over the top to me, but moving the thread a bit and trying to make content outweighs that. It does set him up for more scrutiny later though. If he's not town then it'll get harder and harder for him to keep pace or produce anything of substance. I remember Copcake showed up. I don't remember anything about her posts. Which doesn't really mean anything to me yet.
Meh. I told myself I was going to quote every post but that's a harsh toke. Instead I'm sticking to relevant posts.
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I like MZ. His posting seems focused on the right things and quite townie to me. In fact he's probably my strongest townread just from these few posts.
Don't really have any kind of read on tubesock, although he does seem to be going out of his to protect decon, which is weird, as I can't see a townread there.
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On August 30 2022 19:26 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
Serious question to decon:
Can you go back through your posts, there's been plenty of them, and tell us which ones we can take seriously, except for the posts you make telling us not to take other posts seriously? Because it seems to me like every time you post something and someone comments on it, its either a joke post, or you didn't actually mean what you were saying, or its tongue in cheek. If you don't put your tongue back in its natural position sometime soon you're at a terrible risk of it getting stuck in your cheek.
None of them are particularly serious, but they are meant to ruffle feathers a bit. How people respond to them is always interesting. We have plenty of time left in the day for more serious posts, and shitposts do help get some insights on day one
OK. I'll take this at face value and I look forward to learning what you actually think later today
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Btw, in my last mafia game I was magnificent.
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On August 30 2022 12:43 Chezinu wrote: It looks like Grackaroni has vanished. Can anyone see the cruiseship? It appears the canoe is here... *eyes open outward* His body mustn't be far. Smells like the stinch left by fecal in the cave.
I'm to assume that what happened to fecal was some kind of very accidental cave diving accident, yah?
On August 30 2022 13:20 Alakaslam wrote:You always have the best music Hey folks I am town let's see what you all said while I was Doing life shit I'm gonna get lynched for this aren't I? At least it's before lylo Slam's here. Yay. I knew you'd appreciate good tunes
On August 30 2022 13:27 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 04:17 Holyflare wrote: Wait where did Rayn clarify his post? I don't think the typo changes the question lol. Yes it does. Indeed. This confused me a little at the time. hf looked like he was going to push on this but then just kind of went away. I don't know if we can read anything from it though.
On August 30 2022 13:30 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 04:48 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:43 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 04:09 deconduo wrote: I like Jock, so they're probably mafia I don't but I'm glad you'll help me lynch jock considering you think he's mafia. At least put your money where your mouth is ##vote: dandel ionOn August 30 2022 04:45 Tubesock wrote: long live Chez! He will remain, for now, uneaten. DAT OMGUS VOTE Ayyy_yyyyy_yyy_yyyyyyy_ lmao
I actually explained this later in the following chain, the vote wasn't particularly aimed at dandel tbh
On August 30 2022 05:41 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:38 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 05:32 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 05:30 Dandel Ion wrote: what if jock was town and im just reading him as mafia because he convinced himself somehow that town is supposed to look like mafia because only mafia try to look like town
i think im onto something here hmm There's a huge space between 'looking town being the number 1 objective for town', and 'town should try to look mafia'. I never said town should try to look mafia, I said if you're town and your posts show that you're town you shouldn't have to try, or have it be an objective. no, nuance is a myth and i am now going to lynch my strongest townread, deconduo, because he looks way too town. observe how i am currently in the process of lynching him Well I was too until you refused to vote for me! All I wanted was to see how he reacted to it after the little exchange you two had but NOOOOOO dandel ion doesn't want to play.
On August 30 2022 13:31 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:00 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 04:58 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:57 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 04:53 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote: I lack both money and a mouth Neo? Is that you? are we ever truly anybody? Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole. Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it. no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch ?????????
On August 30 2022 13:32 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:04 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 05:02 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 05:00 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 04:58 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:57 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 04:53 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote: I lack both money and a mouth Neo? Is that you? are we ever truly anybody? Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole. Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it. no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch In what way? It scares the sheep "On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game" plus the later you vote the more townie you are and I only care about how townie I look ..... ................ Which is scummy as he'll? Wtf? I thought you knew this? Which must mean there is a facetiousness or something that is slinging smirks over my head. Hijole.
I didn't put it into words but this is the kind of feeling i got from dandel too. Like he's playing a game i don't really understand, but is fully aware of how scummy his posting was, and it was a part of whatever he's trying to do.
On August 30 2022 13:39 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:12 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 05:09 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 05:04 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 05:02 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 05:00 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 04:58 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:57 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 04:53 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote: I lack both money and a mouth Neo? Is that you? are we ever truly anybody? Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole. Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it. no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch In what way? It scares the sheep "On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game" plus the later you vote the more townie you are and I only care about how townie I look Why would you only care about how townie you look? That's a really weird thing to be your main objective. I mean, to me you don't look particularly townie right now, and that's because you say you're trying to look townie. Why would you assume that people will go off how many votes someone has made without reading into the context? If you're town and your posts show that you're town why should it matter how many votes you make, as long as you can detect some reasoning behind the votes. As town my objective is to not get lynched and if no townie gets lynched mafia get lynched and town wins surely this is not too difficult to understand idc about your read on my because I am currently lynching you so it will stop mattering in 22 hours Could achieve this by no-lynching and mafia would still win every time, all mafia has to do in what you propose here is do the same thing so they get harder to detect. Decidedly anti-town way to play, but then I have been scum with people who wanted to NK me to assert dominance so I don't SR you for it yet lol. Don't know you well enough to go so far when it is looking too scummy to be scum.
We're on the same wavelength and I like it.
On August 30 2022 13:56 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided: deconduo Alakaslam CopCake Tubesock Meapak_Ziphh raynpelikoneet Rels Mattchew
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation. Well fuck me M_Z tunnel incoming like a sidewinder missile after page 13 Bad luck, lads
I'm all for it. MZ is town.
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On August 30 2022 19:42 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 19:30 Koshi wrote:On August 30 2022 19:06 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 18:30 Koshi wrote:On August 30 2022 03:20 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? Are you saying you are not town? On August 30 2022 03:24 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb Are you talking of a past game or? On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote: [quote]
What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote: [quote]
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially. -- On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote: [quote] He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafiaThis player list: 1. Alakaslam 2. ShoCkeyy 4. Jockmcplop 3. Grackaroni 5. Tictock 6. Raynpelikoneet 7. Fecalfeast 8. Vivax 9. Hapahauli 10. Trfel Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game. Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first? On August 30 2022 05:44 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____
I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: [quote] What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafiaThis player list: 1. Alakaslam 2. ShoCkeyy 4. Jockmcplop 3. Grackaroni 5. Tictock 6. Raynpelikoneet 7. Fecalfeast 8. Vivax 9. Hapahauli 10. Trfel Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game. Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first? I knew there was a game because you complained D:< a lot. I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players. And HF is/was pulling more of that string, Jock just said "I didn't get it either" and took your smartphone excuse while HF didn't. Above 3 quotes show 1) HF post 2) rayn pressure on CC 3) CC answer to rain on said pressure. Here I feel rayn tried to pressure CC on her "Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game." which implied that she asked the question to figure out the motive behind the HF post (aka scumhunting). Rayns pressure resulted in CC backtracking with "I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players." which again shows (ambiguous) she asked questions that are disconnected from actual scumhunting, while pretending she asks the questions because they are relevant to scumhunting. So Copcape I wasn't "backtracking", it was an honest "I assumed" D:< If HF was in that game, I would have tunneled him inmediatly but he wasn't so I have no reason. Explain why please. Because it would have been dumb/odd of him to continue to tunnel rayn on that if he was in the game, specially when he explained it was a phone derp. And I will continue to ask questions, for example: Is it my meta to do this as mafia? How is the "town copcake"? No idea. I also don't really care. Defending behind meta is not making you look better.
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Ok, I'll just ignore Koshi.
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I am legit afraid of being too good at the game now and pierced all my fingers to make it harder to write
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