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On September 23 2022 08:44 Holyflare wrote:
I would have come back if it meant anything but I don't think any of them were gonna change their mind and they didn't seem very interested in actually conversing about it anyway.
Hey i will message you on discord in a couple of weeks, we will most likely have a flight to US on date X on December and it seems like we will have a stopover for like 10 hours in London, let's have lunch or beer or smth? 
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On September 23 2022 08:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2022 00:41 Alakaslam wrote:
Town played like ass at the end, this frustrates him. No, people didn't play at all at the end, so i couldn't care less how the game ends. What's the point of a win or loss if noone plays and just randomly decides the result? + Show Spoiler +4:28 AM]raynpelikoneet!: sorry for the game, i didnt have time and didnt want to care anymore after half past the day before the last one
[4:29 AM]Rels: haha of course. TBH last day was pretty deplorable. 2/3 of the town didn't want to play ...
[4:29 AM]Rels: it was still fun 🙂 even though I played pretty badly haha
[4:29 AM]raynpelikoneet!: my original plan was to shoot either vivax or chezinu last night and vote for the other guy and bank on HF not appearing and win but what good it is to win a game like that if it comes to that?
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[4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: well, i was talking about that if i shoot lets say chezinu, and vote vivax at the start of last day before he votes, and HF does not appear all day (as he said), we always win
[4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i didnt want thaty
[4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: it's not a way to win
4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: nor do i want to have anything to do with TL mafia anymore if i was in a game that was decided by people NOT playing the whole game at all
[4:33 AM]Rels: yeah
[4:34 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i genuinely put all my time aside work into the game just to have a final day of no show???
[4:34 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i guess they are even proud of winning or some shit? 😄
[4:35 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i mean vivax and chezinu. Koshi f.ex. played quite well, damn that was top notch D1
What's the issue with using flipped mafia's spew to determine alignments?
Maybe you wanted a whole wall mentioning reasons, let's not forget you've caught me off a single mistake in the past.
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On September 23 2022 09:13 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2022 08:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 22 2022 00:41 Alakaslam wrote:
Town played like ass at the end, this frustrates him. No, people didn't play at all at the end, so i couldn't care less how the game ends. What's the point of a win or loss if noone plays and just randomly decides the result? + Show Spoiler +4:28 AM]raynpelikoneet!: sorry for the game, i didnt have time and didnt want to care anymore after half past the day before the last one
[4:29 AM]Rels: haha of course. TBH last day was pretty deplorable. 2/3 of the town didn't want to play ...
[4:29 AM]Rels: it was still fun 🙂 even though I played pretty badly haha
[4:29 AM]raynpelikoneet!: my original plan was to shoot either vivax or chezinu last night and vote for the other guy and bank on HF not appearing and win but what good it is to win a game like that if it comes to that?
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[4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: well, i was talking about that if i shoot lets say chezinu, and vote vivax at the start of last day before he votes, and HF does not appear all day (as he said), we always win
[4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i didnt want thaty
[4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: it's not a way to win
4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: nor do i want to have anything to do with TL mafia anymore if i was in a game that was decided by people NOT playing the whole game at all
[4:33 AM]Rels: yeah
[4:34 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i genuinely put all my time aside work into the game just to have a final day of no show???
[4:34 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i guess they are even proud of winning or some shit? 😄
[4:35 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i mean vivax and chezinu. Koshi f.ex. played quite well, damn that was top notch D1 What's the issue with using flipped mafia's spew to determine alignments? Maybe you wanted a whole wall mentioning reasons, let's not forget you've caught me off a single mistake in the past.
Tbh a large part of your filter was filled with comments that were unrelated to the game. And then a lot of Chezinu's content was videos of the island, which makes it really hard to play a normal game of mafia.
I also made a huge mistake to allow both no shoot and no lynch, which really dragged out the game and ruined activity. I definitely won't do that again.
I did see the process that you/Chezinu made to go through the flipped mafia filters and draw associations (especially clear in Chezinu's filter), so it wasn't random.
Blues also played extremely well in this game. Mattchew made 2 saves, and MZ took the risk not to claim his role during the day 1 lynch and got rewarded with a red check.
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On September 23 2022 09:13 Vivax wrote:
What's the issue with using flipped mafia's spew to determine alignments?
Because it has nothing to do with the player in question has said.
Mafia can say anything about anyone.
If someone decided you are mafia because of something a flipped mafia has said, would it be fair? There is no way for you to defend against the accusation, regardless of your alignment, and if people think like this smart mafia will fuck you over in a game just for nothing.
You can do that, and continue doing that. I mean using someone else's sayings as evidence for someone else being mafia. It's just not reasonable, because it doesn't have anything to do what the person in question has done. Sure you get it right sometimes, but most of the times you don't. And anyways, regardless of if you get it right or wrong on me, i will not participate, then you can win or lose on your own time for me.
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On September 23 2022 10:22 Grackaroni wrote:
I also made a huge mistake to allow both no shoot and no lynch, which really dragged out the game and ruined activity. I definitely won't do that again.
You had nothing to do with the activity and you should not apologize for that.
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Like Vivax:
+ Show Spoiler +On September 12 2022 12:46 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 11:55 Rels wrote:
Let's see who's left.
I would vote Vivax over Tube dec and Mattchew too, even though I don't have a strong read on them. Just because they have tried more.
Chez lol. I've never been able to read him. Show nested quote +On September 02 2022 11:52 Rels wrote:On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town
HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town
MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE
Nothing‘s changed from D1
I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope
Did I forget anyone? Welcome back to the game mate What do you mean, nothing's changed from D1? Maybe you had random lists here and there but I don't remember a single reasoning? What are your reasons for, like, all of these? :p Especially Chez TBH? Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 12:27 Rels wrote:On September 03 2022 12:23 Vivax wrote:On September 03 2022 12:20 Rels wrote:On September 03 2022 12:15 Vivax wrote:
What the fuck are you even doing with those posts
Thread was decent until someone thought I was in a crisis or something and now you‘re throwing a tantrum me? Catching up the pages I missed, sorry if it's done badly? Some games I experimented with writing big catch up post but they ended up unreadable I think. Pretty curious to see what you're talking about with a crisis lol No it‘s all whining Make a single point for Tube being town instead? Tube is scum Tube / Dandel / one of CC / Mattchew is where I'm at combined with Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 13:18 Rels wrote:
well, going to sleep. If you all want to make me happy, Dandel being the second wagon instead of me would be a perfect present
Not that Tube is not scum. But Dandel is too, and don't even care to play
Amending my list to Dandel / Tube / one of CC / Mattchew / Chez, who I totally forgot :p
Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 23:02 CopCake wrote:
I could change my vote for rels.
But I want to know what people think of my MZ case?
I put effort and boom, ignored in the sand.
I also wonder why chezinu voted me.
And from now on I should call Jock as Detective J. ???? self aware partner vote Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 22:58 CopCake wrote:
Btw HF if you want my wisdom, I think Tubestock change feels more of a “player who is not 100%” sure of his reads, with the chaotic thread, seeing people talking fast and no one believing mz or rels so he just believed the rest of the town and hoped for the best. I have seen this before in games, I have been in that position, not specific eith tube. It is overwhelming.
So yeah, this feels more like town than mafia to me.
But like I said, who wants to lynch rels or mz?
Someone?
Nope.
And I had been to busy to actually put that much effort, when I was writting my case I got tired of copy pasting posts. Add the “no one pays attention” to that and it feels quite… I should care for other things.
At least reading slam is such a pleasure.
If you want my reads Rayn is town, Dandel is town (his case of rels if chef kiss, needs to be framed), Jock is town.
You and Slam are town.
Tube like 70% town, maybe 80%. If he made that move as mafia… it is just… bad.
Vivax and Chezinu I dont touch.
But I feel that Vivax is more town than Chezinu. They are in a league of their own.
Process of eliminations gives Mz, rels, matt.
After bringing up betrayal she just ignores Chez and moves on to talking about his videos and nothing more. Chez is thrown into words salads (naming lots of players and throwing a partner in) repeatedly by both of them. Especially rels goes back and corrects his list to specifically add Chez.
Pretty much on any other forum this would be a 100% lynch case because it is air tight. Is it though? I think this is a good example of why what you are arguing here is wrong.
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On September 23 2022 08:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2022 08:44 Holyflare wrote:
I would have come back if it meant anything but I don't think any of them were gonna change their mind and they didn't seem very interested in actually conversing about it anyway. Hey i will message you on discord in a couple of weeks, we will most likely have a flight to US on date X on December and it seems like we will have a stopover for like 10 hours in London, let's have lunch or beer or smth?
I would love to but don't live anywhere near London anymore 
Damn. Let me know when and I'll see how expensive a train is or something.
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There was no activity because the game was solved. No lynch also served to ensure the game on the weekend.
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On September 23 2022 08:44 Holyflare wrote:
I would have come back if it meant anything but I don't think any of them were gonna change their mind and they didn't seem very interested in actually conversing about it anyway.
If rayn didn't vote himself, I would of been paranoid of you being mafia and appearing right before lynch.
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On September 23 2022 13:10 Chezinu wrote:
There was no activity because the game was solved. No lynch also served to ensure the game on the weekend.
Youre kidding yourself but that's fine.
On September 23 2022 13:16 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2022 08:44 Holyflare wrote:
I would have come back if it meant anything but I don't think any of them were gonna change their mind and they didn't seem very interested in actually conversing about it anyway. If rayn didn't vote himself, I would of been paranoid of you being mafia and appearing right before lynch.
Enforced by this. If RAYN didn't do this i would think HF is mafia.
Nice solve on a mafia game people <3
Glad i didn't play.
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On September 23 2022 10:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2022 10:22 Grackaroni wrote:
I also made a huge mistake to allow both no shoot and no lynch, which really dragged out the game and ruined activity. I definitely won't do that again.
You had nothing to do with the activity and you should not apologize for that.
Hear hear
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