• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:44
CEST 07:44
KST 14:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
The Best Worst Final: sOs vs INnoVation11[ASL16] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Rematches10ZeroSpace - Xol Faction Reveal57WTL 2023 Winter - Code A Preview/Power Rank14[ASL16] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Even Scales4
Community News
2023 Code S Season 3 Ro16 Groups4New PTR Patch 5.0.1268ESL Open #193: herO, MaxPax, Clem win3ESL Masters Winter 2023 - Qualifiers + Schedule0Serral wins Master's Coliseum 648
StarCraft 2
General
New PTR Patch 5.0.12 Cara LaForge Talks Raising Day[9] & Tasteless... New Map Pool Has 9 Maps The Best Worst Final: sOs vs INnoVation 2023 Code S Season 3 Ro16 Groups
Tourneys
Tenacious Turtle Tussle (Americas/OCE/Asia) PIG STY FESTIVAL 4.0! (20-24 September) KSL Week 28 WardiTV 2023 Opens (Monthly) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] YAKS LOTV: Yet Another hotKey Setup - zerg Simple Questions Simple Answers Practice Partner Thread Season 1 - 2018
Custom Maps
StarLance | Extension Mod – Multiplayer LotV
External Content
Mutation # 387 Train of Pain Mutation # 386 Dance Dance Evolution Mutation # 385 Knock Knock Mutation # 384 Getting Along
Brood War
General
BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.com/ Little things you hate about Brood War? Restoration should be researched in TvZ [ASL16] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Rematches What would you like to see in the next ASL?
Tourneys
[ASL16] Ro16 Group D [ASL16] Ro8 Day 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Team Tournament
Strategy
Why is ____ not used for (Matchup here)? Simple Questions, Simple Answers ZvP Retro Walls Hiding Defilers
Other Games
General Games
FF7 remake for PS4 announced Cyberpunk 2077 Age of Empires IV Tom Clancy's Division Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[Summer Split] LoL Esports General Discussion
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes International Nations Cup - Berlin 2023 HotS: WP and Funny Moments
Hearthstone
Is Hearthstone Gambling?
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Everybody smurfs for TTT mafia Quarterly Mafia 1 - part 2 QM Part 2 Vote Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Planets that can potentially support life... The Games Industry And ATVI Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
RotterdaM Fan Club The Stephano Fan Club Mvp Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Manga] Berserk Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion!
Sports
2023 - 2024 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 2023 NFL/CFB Season Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 Thread
Tech Support
Cannot log into Liquipedia.net using tl.net accoun Spotify and SC II
TL Community
Gay StarCraft Players The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Baal's last 15 years, with …
WGT-Baal
Returning to Starcraft. Balance …
-_-
About parenting
Uldridge
EternaLEnVy Post DotA Tr…
EternaLEnVy
Darius the great Golden plates…
kfpnw
Three Volume VI
Mizenhauer
[Girl blog] These feelings do…
Garnet
ASL S16 English Commentarie…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1733 users

Chezinu streak(s) Mafia - Page 158

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 156 157 158
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
September 22 2022 23:48 GMT
#3141
On September 23 2022 08:44 Holyflare wrote:
I would have come back if it meant anything but I don't think any of them were gonna change their mind and they didn't seem very interested in actually conversing about it anyway.

Hey i will message you on discord in a couple of weeks, we will most likely have a flight to US on date X on December and it seems like we will have a stopover for like 10 hours in London, let's have lunch or beer or smth?
table for two on a tv tray
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Austria19299 Posts
September 23 2022 00:13 GMT
#3142
On September 23 2022 08:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2022 00:41 Alakaslam wrote:
Town played like ass at the end, this frustrates him.

No, people didn't play at all at the end, so i couldn't care less how the game ends. What's the point of a win or loss if noone plays and just randomly decides the result?
+ Show Spoiler +
4:28 AM]raynpelikoneet!: sorry for the game, i didnt have time and didnt want to care anymore after half past the day before the last one
[4:29 AM]Rels: haha of course. TBH last day was pretty deplorable. 2/3 of the town didn't want to play ...
[4:29 AM]Rels: it was still fun 🙂 even though I played pretty badly haha
[4:29 AM]raynpelikoneet!: my original plan was to shoot either vivax or chezinu last night and vote for the other guy and bank on HF not appearing and win but what good it is to win a game like that if it comes to that?
[....]
[4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: well, i was talking about that if i shoot lets say chezinu, and vote vivax at the start of last day before he votes, and HF does not appear all day (as he said), we always win
[4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i didnt want thaty
[4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: it's not a way to win
4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: nor do i want to have anything to do with TL mafia anymore if i was in a game that was decided by people NOT playing the whole game at all
[4:33 AM]Rels: yeah
[4:34 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i genuinely put all my time aside work into the game just to have a final day of no show???
[4:34 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i guess they are even proud of winning or some shit? 😄
[4:35 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i mean vivax and chezinu. Koshi f.ex. played quite well, damn that was top notch D1


What's the issue with using flipped mafia's spew to determine alignments?
Maybe you wanted a whole wall mentioning reasons, let's not forget you've caught me off a single mistake in the past.
the fish stinks from the head
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9488 Posts
September 23 2022 01:22 GMT
#3143
On September 23 2022 09:13 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2022 08:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 22 2022 00:41 Alakaslam wrote:
Town played like ass at the end, this frustrates him.

No, people didn't play at all at the end, so i couldn't care less how the game ends. What's the point of a win or loss if noone plays and just randomly decides the result?
+ Show Spoiler +
4:28 AM]raynpelikoneet!: sorry for the game, i didnt have time and didnt want to care anymore after half past the day before the last one
[4:29 AM]Rels: haha of course. TBH last day was pretty deplorable. 2/3 of the town didn't want to play ...
[4:29 AM]Rels: it was still fun 🙂 even though I played pretty badly haha
[4:29 AM]raynpelikoneet!: my original plan was to shoot either vivax or chezinu last night and vote for the other guy and bank on HF not appearing and win but what good it is to win a game like that if it comes to that?
[....]
[4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: well, i was talking about that if i shoot lets say chezinu, and vote vivax at the start of last day before he votes, and HF does not appear all day (as he said), we always win
[4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i didnt want thaty
[4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: it's not a way to win
4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: nor do i want to have anything to do with TL mafia anymore if i was in a game that was decided by people NOT playing the whole game at all
[4:33 AM]Rels: yeah
[4:34 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i genuinely put all my time aside work into the game just to have a final day of no show???
[4:34 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i guess they are even proud of winning or some shit? 😄
[4:35 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i mean vivax and chezinu. Koshi f.ex. played quite well, damn that was top notch D1


What's the issue with using flipped mafia's spew to determine alignments?
Maybe you wanted a whole wall mentioning reasons, let's not forget you've caught me off a single mistake in the past.

Tbh a large part of your filter was filled with comments that were unrelated to the game. And then a lot of Chezinu's content was videos of the island, which makes it really hard to play a normal game of mafia.

I also made a huge mistake to allow both no shoot and no lynch, which really dragged out the game and ruined activity. I definitely won't do that again.

I did see the process that you/Chezinu made to go through the flipped mafia filters and draw associations (especially clear in Chezinu's filter), so it wasn't random.

Blues also played extremely well in this game. Mattchew made 2 saves, and MZ took the risk not to claim his role during the day 1 lynch and got rewarded with a red check.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
September 23 2022 01:29 GMT
#3144
On September 23 2022 09:13 Vivax wrote:
What's the issue with using flipped mafia's spew to determine alignments?

Because it has nothing to do with the player in question has said.
Mafia can say anything about anyone.
If someone decided you are mafia because of something a flipped mafia has said, would it be fair? There is no way for you to defend against the accusation, regardless of your alignment, and if people think like this smart mafia will fuck you over in a game just for nothing.

You can do that, and continue doing that. I mean using someone else's sayings as evidence for someone else being mafia. It's just not reasonable, because it doesn't have anything to do what the person in question has done. Sure you get it right sometimes, but most of the times you don't. And anyways, regardless of if you get it right or wrong on me, i will not participate, then you can win or lose on your own time for me.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
September 23 2022 01:29 GMT
#3145
On September 23 2022 10:22 Grackaroni wrote:

I also made a huge mistake to allow both no shoot and no lynch, which really dragged out the game and ruined activity. I definitely won't do that again.

You had nothing to do with the activity and you should not apologize for that.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
September 23 2022 01:41 GMT
#3146
Like Vivax:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 12 2022 12:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 11:55 Rels wrote:
Let's see who's left.

I would vote Vivax over Tube dec and Mattchew too, even though I don't have a strong read on them. Just because they have tried more.

Chez lol. I've never been able to read him.


Show nested quote +
On September 02 2022 11:52 Rels wrote:
On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town

HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town

MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE

Nothing‘s changed from D1

I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope

Did I forget anyone?

Welcome back to the game mate
What do you mean, nothing's changed from D1? Maybe you had random lists here and there but I don't remember a single reasoning?
What are your reasons for, like, all of these? :p Especially Chez TBH?



Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 12:27 Rels wrote:
On September 03 2022 12:23 Vivax wrote:
On September 03 2022 12:20 Rels wrote:
On September 03 2022 12:15 Vivax wrote:
What the fuck are you even doing with those posts
Thread was decent until someone thought I was in a crisis or something and now you‘re throwing a tantrum

me? Catching up the pages I missed, sorry if it's done badly? Some games I experimented with writing big catch up post but they ended up unreadable I think.
Pretty curious to see what you're talking about with a crisis lol


No it‘s all whining
Make a single point for Tube being town instead?

Tube is scum
Tube / Dandel / one of CC / Mattchew is where I'm at


combined with

Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 13:18 Rels wrote:
well, going to sleep. If you all want to make me happy, Dandel being the second wagon instead of me would be a perfect present
Not that Tube is not scum. But Dandel is too, and don't even care to play
Amending my list to Dandel / Tube / one of CC / Mattchew / Chez, who I totally forgot :p





Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 23:02 CopCake wrote:
I could change my vote for rels.

But I want to know what people think of my MZ case?

I put effort and boom, ignored in the sand.

I also wonder why chezinu voted me.


And from now on I should call Jock as Detective J.


???? self aware partner vote

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2022 15:14 CopCake wrote:
I feel betrayed by chezinu


Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 22:58 CopCake wrote:
Btw HF if you want my wisdom, I think Tubestock change feels more of a “player who is not 100%” sure of his reads, with the chaotic thread, seeing people talking fast and no one believing mz or rels so he just believed the rest of the town and hoped for the best. I have seen this before in games, I have been in that position, not specific eith tube. It is overwhelming.

So yeah, this feels more like town than mafia to me.

But like I said, who wants to lynch rels or mz?

Someone?

Nope.

And I had been to busy to actually put that much effort, when I was writting my case I got tired of copy pasting posts. Add the “no one pays attention” to that and it feels quite… I should care for other things.

At least reading slam is such a pleasure.

If you want my reads Rayn is town, Dandel is town (his case of rels if chef kiss, needs to be framed), Jock is town.

You and Slam are town.

Tube like 70% town, maybe 80%. If he made that move as mafia… it is just… bad.

Vivax and Chezinu I dont touch.
But I feel that Vivax is more town than Chezinu. They are in a league of their own.

Process of eliminations gives Mz, rels, matt.


After bringing up betrayal she just ignores Chez and moves on to talking about his videos and nothing more. Chez is thrown into words salads (naming lots of players and throwing a partner in) repeatedly by both of them. Especially rels goes back and corrects his list to specifically add Chez.

Pretty much on any other forum this would be a 100% lynch case because it is air tight. Is it though? I think this is a good example of why what you are arguing here is wrong.
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30515 Posts
September 23 2022 03:26 GMT
#3147
On September 23 2022 08:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2022 08:44 Holyflare wrote:
I would have come back if it meant anything but I don't think any of them were gonna change their mind and they didn't seem very interested in actually conversing about it anyway.

Hey i will message you on discord in a couple of weeks, we will most likely have a flight to US on date X on December and it seems like we will have a stopover for like 10 hours in London, let's have lunch or beer or smth?


I would love to but don't live anywhere near London anymore

Damn. Let me know when and I'll see how expensive a train is or something.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7286 Posts
September 23 2022 04:10 GMT
#3148
There was no activity because the game was solved. No lynch also served to ensure the game on the weekend.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7286 Posts
September 23 2022 04:16 GMT
#3149
On September 23 2022 08:44 Holyflare wrote:
I would have come back if it meant anything but I don't think any of them were gonna change their mind and they didn't seem very interested in actually conversing about it anyway.

If rayn didn't vote himself, I would of been paranoid of you being mafia and appearing right before lynch.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland41026 Posts
September 23 2022 05:13 GMT
#3150
On September 23 2022 13:10 Chezinu wrote:
There was no activity because the game was solved. No lynch also served to ensure the game on the weekend.

Youre kidding yourself but that's fine.
On September 23 2022 13:16 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2022 08:44 Holyflare wrote:
I would have come back if it meant anything but I don't think any of them were gonna change their mind and they didn't seem very interested in actually conversing about it anyway.

If rayn didn't vote himself, I would of been paranoid of you being mafia and appearing right before lynch.

Enforced by this. If RAYN didn't do this i would think HF is mafia.

Nice solve on a mafia game people <3
Glad i didn't play.
table for two on a tv tray
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States16070 Posts
September 23 2022 17:26 GMT
#3151
On September 23 2022 10:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2022 10:22 Grackaroni wrote:

I also made a huge mistake to allow both no shoot and no lynch, which really dragged out the game and ruined activity. I definitely won't do that again.

You had nothing to do with the activity and you should not apologize for that.

Hear hear
Drinking food, eating water; tomé leche, come lechuga
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States16070 Posts
March 01 2023 19:52 GMT
#3152
Hijole
Drinking food, eating water; tomé leche, come lechuga
Prev 1 156 157 158
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 16m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech91
SortOf 76
Forgg! 63
Dragon 24
StarCraft: Brood War
PianO 3362
Hyuk 649
Snow 264
Shine 220
Jumperer 219
Dewaltoss 60
Stork 52
Sexy 25
Hm[arnc] 14
Dota 2
monkeys_forever1950
League of Legends
JimRising 924
Super Smash Bros
ChuDatz11
Other Games
summit1g17112
m0e_tv2046
shahzam1098
C9.Mang01010
Liquid`RaSZi732
HitmanStarcraft2108
Fuzer 76
PainUser4
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Esl_sc2259
ESL.tv259
StarCraft: Brood War
StarcraftVOD3
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 43
• Kozan
• Laughngamez YouTube
• aXEnki
• Poblha
• intothetv
• Gussbus
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamez Trovo
StarCraft: Brood War
• sscaitournament2
• STPLYoutube
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Ambition1490
• Stunt464
Other Games
• Scarra1757
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
2h 16m
PiG Sty Festival
4h 16m
Maru vs NightMare
herO vs HeRoMaRinE
WardiTV European League
10h 16m
Sniper's StarCraft League
11h 16m
SpeCial vs Nice
DIMAGA vs Kas
Korean StarCraft League
21h 16m
PiG Sty Festival
1d 4h
Dark vs Spirit
ByuN vs MaxPax
WardiTV European League
1d 7h
BSL
1d 10h
WardiTV European League
1d 10h
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
1d 18h
[ Show More ]
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Serral vs Bunny
Wardi Open
2 days
BSL
2 days
BSL
2 days
ESL Open Cup
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Sharp vs Mini
ESL Open Cup
3 days
ESL Open Cup
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
EffOrt vs Action
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
Creator vs Solar
Creator vs DongRaeGu
Maru vs ByuN
Maru vs Classic
ByuN vs Scarlett
DongRaeGu vs NightMare
Solar vs NightMare
Scarlett vs Classic
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
GuMiho vs Ryung
GuMiho vs Stats
herO vs RagnaroK
herO vs Dark
RagnaroK vs Cure
Stats vs Astrea
Ryung vs Astrea
Cure vs Dark
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Classic vs ByuN
Scarlett vs Solar
Dark vs RagnaroK
Cure vs Ryung
GuMiho vs Astrea
Maru vs DongRaeGu
Creator vs NightMare
herO vs Stats
PassionCraft
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Tournament of Legends International Season 4
Master's Coliseum 6
Calamity Stars - Qualifier #2
IESF WEC 2023

Ongoing

FS Mania
BSL 25x25
ASL Season 16
CSL 10: 2023 Fall
GSL2023 S2
WardiTV Korean Royale S2
PiG Sty Festival 4.0
Raven Court Inhouse League
ESL Challenger League S46 NA
ESL Challenger League S46 AP
ESL Pro League Season 18
CCT Online Finals #3

Upcoming

Copa Latinoamericana Season 2
Bombastic 25th Anniversary LAN
ESL Winter
ESL Winter: Asia
ESL Winter: Americas
ESL Winter: Europe
2023 GSL S3: Code S
WTL 2023 Winter
Lion Lad's By Release
Low Elo Heroes
Calamity Stars
Calamity Stars - Qualifier #3
CS:GO Asia Championships 2023
FiReLEAGUE Global Finals
Thunderpick World Championship
Roobet Cup 2023
IEM Sydney 2023
BLAST Premier Fall AME Showdown
BLAST Premier Fall EU Showdown
ESL Challenger League S46 EU
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2023 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.