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On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town  Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? lol? did you skip HF post on purpose? Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
Lol until I saw this shit I was gonna SR you by pointing out you were too fucking bitter but then remembered that bitterness is not alignment indicative 
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On August 30 2022 05:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
I am shocked nobody got your reference from a game 4 years ago or something
I'm shocked I remembered it but it wasn't that long and Rayn, Vivax, HF, Grace, I, others play still on other sites but the most recent game here was post pandemic
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On August 30 2022 05:12 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:09 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 05:04 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 05:02 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 05:00 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 04:58 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:57 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 04:53 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote:
I lack both money and a mouth Neo? Is that you? are we ever truly anybody? Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole. Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it. no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch In what way? It scares the sheep "On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game" plus the later you vote the more townie you are and I only care about how townie I look Why would you only care about how townie you look? That's a really weird thing to be your main objective. I mean, to me you don't look particularly townie right now, and that's because you say you're trying to look townie. Why would you assume that people will go off how many votes someone has made without reading into the context? If you're town and your posts show that you're town why should it matter how many votes you make, as long as you can detect some reasoning behind the votes. As town my objective is to not get lynched and if no townie gets lynched mafia get lynched and town wins surely this is not too difficult to understand idc about your read on my because I am currently lynching you so it will stop mattering in 22 hours
Could achieve this by no-lynching and mafia would still win every time, all mafia has to do in what you propose here is do the same thing so they get harder to detect.
Decidedly anti-town way to play, but then I have been scum with people who wanted to NK me to assert dominance so I don't SR you for it yet lol. Don't know you well enough to go so far when it is looking too scummy to be scum.
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On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? lol? did you skip HF post on purpose? Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated livid
FTFY
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On August 30 2022 05:56 Vivax wrote:How do you know this? Don't make me get Blazinghand
Always fetch the great one, I promise not to talk about the P word
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On August 30 2022 05:56 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:53 deconduo wrote:
Sorry forgot about the post where I confirmed I was town, updated list:
100% confirmed town:
Holyflare
deconduo
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu If Alakaslam doesn't post "Hijole" in his first post you can call him mafia.
WHAT! Now you demand immediate service!!
Meh, largely this is just a fair cop lol
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On August 30 2022 06:25 Koshi wrote:
Claiming green to copchecks. So Godfather or vanilla town. I read page 5 and my role pm. Tomorrow more.
PUT
(O? A?)
PENDEJO!
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On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
Well fuck me M_Z tunnel incoming like a sidewinder missile after page 13
Bad luck, lads
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On August 30 2022 12:43 Chezinu wrote:
It looks like Grackaroni has vanished. Can anyone see the cruiseship? It appears the canoe is here... *eyes open outward* His body mustn't be far. Smells like the stinch left by fecal in the cave.
Leader, I follow
Dude I made it to page 14, was it solo?
M_Z at least my extensive filter is condensed to two pages of the thread for many hours now, does that help?
I bet it doesn't help.
I have no clue who is mafia. Maybe it is Rayn because he bitterly recalls an amazing scumgame of his (or because his reference to it has put the fear of casinos in me, something like that)
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On August 30 2022 06:27 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 06:25 Koshi wrote:
Claiming green to copchecks. So Godfather or vanilla town. I read page 5 and my role pm. Tomorrow more. Page 5:
Yes. I am a comedian.
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On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
You know his list is just a joke, right?
And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it.
Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it.
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I think MZ and copcake are potential mafia. I want to give MZ points for pointing copcake out but I can't.
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Quick reasoning so they can defend themselves:
MZ: sticking out but not in a helpful way. Creating discussion around problems he created. Like "this joke" is mafia. Yes, I like Tube for pointing out the joke reads were hilarious. Should I like MZ for helping me like Tube? No. I dont think I will. But maybe I should. MZ helped me like Tube. Hmmm
Copcake: there was a post in the beginning I felt didnt fit in the thread. Cant remember what it was. I will revisit later.
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Ah no. If MZ is mafia. Tube called him out. I like Tube. MZ still mafia. That I like tube doesnt change that.
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On August 30 2022 16:47 Koshi wrote:
Quick reasoning so they can defend themselves:
MZ: sticking out but not in a helpful way. Creating discussion around problems he created. Like "this joke" is mafia. Yes, I like Tube for pointing out the joke reads were hilarious. Should I like MZ for helping me like Tube? No. I dont think I will. But maybe I should. MZ helped me like Tube. Hmmm
Copcake: there was a post in the beginning I felt didnt fit in the thread. Cant remember what it was. I will revisit later.
Pls check :p
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Morning all. I heard you like lists. I like lists. I'm gonna make another list.
People who are fun:
Jock
Dandel
Slam
Koshi
Vivax
CopCake
Tube
Neutral:
Rels
Matt
People who are not fun:
Rayn
People who are attempting to suck every molecule of fun from the game:
MZ
Chezinu:
Chezinu
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wow my work does have TL listed under "gaming" anymore. I don't have to use my phone. This changes a lot.
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EBWOP:
wow my work does not have TL listed under "gaming" anymore. I don't have to use my phone. This changes a lot.
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On August 30 2022 03:20 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? Are you saying you are not town?
On August 30 2022 03:24 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb Are you talking of a past game or?
On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? lol? did you skip HF post on purpose? Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated
Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially.
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On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What?
On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:
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did you skip HF post on purpose? Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafiaThis player list: 1. Alakaslam 2. ShoCkeyy 4. Jockmcplop 3. Grackaroni 5. Tictock 6. Raynpelikoneet 7. Fecalfeast 8. Vivax 9. Hapahauli 10. Trfel Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game. Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first?
On August 30 2022 05:44 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
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What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
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Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafiaThis player list: 1. Alakaslam 2. ShoCkeyy 4. Jockmcplop 3. Grackaroni 5. Tictock 6. Raynpelikoneet 7. Fecalfeast 8. Vivax 9. Hapahauli 10. Trfel Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game. Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first? I knew there was a game because you complained D:< a lot. I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players. And HF is/was pulling more of that string, Jock just said "I didn't get it either" and took your smartphone excuse while HF didn't.
Above 3 quotes show
1) HF post
2) rayn pressure on CC
3) CC answer to rain on said pressure.
Here I feel rayn tried to pressure CC on her "Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game." which implied that she asked the question to figure out the motive behind the HF post (aka scumhunting). Rayns pressure resulted in CC backtracking with "I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players." which again shows (ambiguous) she asked questions that are disconnected from actual scumhunting, while pretending she asks the questions because they are relevant to scumhunting.
So Copcape
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the ambiguous part is me saying that it shows she is pretend scumhunting. She could also just be doing "useless" things like engaging people and having fun in the game.
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