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On November 18 2019 10:42 cLutZ wrote: Those were clearly not catches, and would not have been confusing to anyone if they happened at the 50 yard line. The difference is people wanted a catch rule that magically made even a hint of possession a catch if you were over the goal line.
Hint of possession? "He landed on the ball and it moved, so it is not a completed catch"... Give me a break! Rules have to make some kind of sense as a viewer.
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On November 18 2019 22:35 Slydie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2019 10:42 cLutZ wrote: Those were clearly not catches, and would not have been confusing to anyone if they happened at the 50 yard line. The difference is people wanted a catch rule that magically made even a hint of possession a catch if you were over the goal line. Hint of possession? "He landed on the ball and it moved, so it is not a completed catch"... Give me a break! Rules have to make some kind of sense as a viewer. Viewers intrinsically understand that the ground touching the ball = no catch. That is just the common understanding of a catch, from baseball, to if I threw you some keys to unlock my car.
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Commentators are way out line spouting about how amazing Kyler Murray is for a rookie. Everybody knew he would be the #1 overall pick, that he would be the starting QB for the Cards, and that Cliff Kingbury would build his airraid offense around his Kyler's play style. All that taken into consideration and his team has 3 wins and 7 losses with 14tds and 5 interceptions.
Meanwhile in Jacksonville, Gardener Minchew had to abruptly start in first quarter of the first game of the season with no preparation against last year's runaway MVP, no game plan built to cater to his strengths and compensate for his weaknesses, and was able to go 4-5 with a worse roster and a corrupting force (Jalen Ramsey) holding the Jags hostage for half their season, and rack up 13td's to 4 interceptions while playing 1 less game than Murray.
I'm no cards hater or Jags homer but ESPN at least get the story right if you want to call yourself a sports reporter. + Show Spoiler +
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On November 19 2019 00:50 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2019 22:35 Slydie wrote:On November 18 2019 10:42 cLutZ wrote: Those were clearly not catches, and would not have been confusing to anyone if they happened at the 50 yard line. The difference is people wanted a catch rule that magically made even a hint of possession a catch if you were over the goal line. Hint of possession? "He landed on the ball and it moved, so it is not a completed catch"... Give me a break! Rules have to make some kind of sense as a viewer. Viewers intrinsically understand that the ground touching the ball = no catch. That is just the common understanding of a catch, from baseball, to if I threw you some keys to unlock my car.
You are entitled to have your opinion but I think the old rule was complete bullshit:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81a77070/Week-1-2010-Calvin-Johnson-s-miraculous-TD-catch-called-back
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On November 19 2019 00:51 redlightdistrict wrote:Commentators are way out line spouting about how amazing Kyler Murray is for a rookie. Everybody knew he would be the #1 overall pick, that he would be the starting QB for the Cards, and that Cliff Kingbury would build his airraid offense around his Kyler's play style. All that taken into consideration and his team has 3 wins and 7 losses with 14tds and 5 interceptions. Meanwhile in Jacksonville, Gardener Minchew had to abruptly start in first quarter of the first game of the season with no preparation against last year's runaway MVP, no game plan built to cater to his strengths and compensate for his weaknesses, and was able to go 4-5 with a worse roster and a corrupting force (Jalen Ramsey) holding the Jags hostage for half their season, and rack up 13td's to 4 interceptions while playing 1 less game than Murray. I'm no cards hater or Jags homer but ESPN at least get the story right if you want to call yourself a sports reporter. + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84jbK3A5BJQ
As a Jags fan, while I appreciate your praise for them, I think you're being misled by the stats.
The difference is that the Cards are in a harder division with a brand new system to replace the one that was utterly broken last year. They have gone from a historically miserable offense to #8 or something overall DVOA this year. That is a huge improvement. Cards have had arguably a harder schedule, and even played teams like the Ravens and 49ers close. Along with this, it seems that the Cardinals are steadily improving - they actually rack up points and their offense is good.
Minshew looked great in his early games, but struggled with some of his more recent games. The Jags have a better offensive roster than the Cardinals, imo, albeit marginally. Young receivers like Chark, Conley and Westbrook together are better than Fitz/Kirk/Isabella. The problem with the Jags and why they don't get the pop that you think they should get is that they don't score touchdowns against good teams (Jags redzone offense is ugly), which is why they felt they needed to put Foles in to give the offense a spark (which it didn't). Jags O-line has been the main problem for the Jags, and even with Jalen on the team, he wasn't considered the "leader", that has always been Calais Campbell and Myles Jack.
You can't just look at the raw numbers and make a call. Kyler is trending upward while Minshew is trending downward, and the Cards are far exceeding expectations compared to last year, even with the record they have. Many people were shitting on AZ for having Kingsbury/Murray because they saw it as a huge gamble, especially considering they had drafted Rosen last year.
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Dolphins continue on their oddesy to repel every player with a fraction of talent from participating on their roster. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/dolphins-release-mark-walton-after-allegedly-punching-pregnant-woman-170643982.html
Andy Slater, a reporter with South Florida radio station Fox Sports 640, tweeted that Walton was arrested early Tuesday morning and is accused of “punching a woman ‘several times in the face and head,’ an exclusively-obtained document says.”
Citing police, Slater said the woman is five weeks pregnant and Walton is the father.
On November 4, Walton was suspended for four games for violating the NFL personal-conduct and substance-abuse policies.
The Dolphins had said they would welcome Walton back after his suspension, but clearly had taken a zero-tolerance policy toward the back. Walton was arrested three times last offseason on numerous charges, including weapons, drugs and battery .
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The Dolphins, for once, are not the problem in that story. Bad take.
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That one is scary bad, am I reading it right that you think that the Dolphins should not "repel" Walton after he beat up a pregnant lady, punching her multiple times in the face and head?
I don't know why but it seems like you are more interested in your takes being edgy than accurate. They are not interesting if they don't meet some basic level of at least possibly being factual.
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Redlight, you continue to baffle me and I am CONVINCED that you (under a different name) and I have interacted in NFL threads past.
I also do not see how the dolphins are culpable here, other than "welcoming him back" seeming like poor judgement given that we are up to arrest number.. 4? 5?
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It's like Max Kellerman is in this thread lol
EDIT: wooo over 9000 posts! Vegeta would be proud :D only took me like 6+ years
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On November 20 2019 04:19 Aveng3r wrote: Redlight, you continue to baffle me and I am CONVINCED that you (under a different name) and I have interacted in NFL threads past.
I also do not see how the dolphins are culpable here, other than "welcoming him back" seeming like poor judgement given that we are up to arrest number.. 4? 5? I think its more likely than not that his is guilty, but i like to give him the benifit of the doubt considering what Rueban Foster's ex gf put him thru with making false claims. Dunno why you would think im someone else, I mostly lurk and when i not, I post articles and videos that are germain to the topic, im not a hottake guy that says "OMG Cowboy are the ROCKZZORS!" Williams acts like douche but can play.
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You're definitely a hot takes guy. Half of your videos are hot takes. But saying that the Dolphins are at fault for this one is absurd.
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On November 19 2019 21:43 Slydie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2019 00:50 cLutZ wrote:On November 18 2019 22:35 Slydie wrote:On November 18 2019 10:42 cLutZ wrote: Those were clearly not catches, and would not have been confusing to anyone if they happened at the 50 yard line. The difference is people wanted a catch rule that magically made even a hint of possession a catch if you were over the goal line. Hint of possession? "He landed on the ball and it moved, so it is not a completed catch"... Give me a break! Rules have to make some kind of sense as a viewer. Viewers intrinsically understand that the ground touching the ball = no catch. That is just the common understanding of a catch, from baseball, to if I threw you some keys to unlock my car. You are entitled to have your opinion but I think the old rule was complete bullshit: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81a77070/Week-1-2010-Calvin-Johnson-s-miraculous-TD-catch-called-back I was trying to show that video to a friend and came across this article where it breaks down many of the confusing moments with the old rule. I agree that people can prefer the old on to the new one or whatever, it is an opinion. But clearly the old one was not free of issues.
https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/11/20/9746130/nfl-catch-rule-controversies-calvin-johnson-referees
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AB apology
Just saw ABs apology on twitter to Pats. Basically he wants back in.
I sincerely want AB to succeed in the NFL because he’s talented and brings excitement to the game. Regardless of off-the-field issues (which he seems to be cleared of?) I wouldn’t mind if he came back.
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I think it is the in lockerroom stuff that is almost harder for the teams to deal with. Him posting his private conversation with Gruden, the texting stuff, the social media throwing people under the bus. That isn't even counting his live streaming with the steelers or fights with Ben. He is a great player, but that is ALOT of baggage.
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My hunch is that AB has either CTE or some kind of cognitive/personality disorder, not sure how a team works around either.
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Yikes, I forgot he got into altercations with his former teammates lol.
Still. A guy can change.
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On November 20 2019 08:13 Emnjay808 wrote: Yikes, I forgot he got into altercations with his former teammates lol.
Still. A guy can change. Of course, but given the circus that comes with him I would need more than a twitter apology. Probably a psycological assessment along with tons of language in his contract about behavior, therapy (if perscribed) and a during season social media blackout. And on top of that no gauranteed money.
On top of that a huge need at the position because he is a big risk to team chemistry.
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If AB is serious about returning, he should get Brandon Marshall as a mentor. Guy dealt with mental health issues but actively sought out help for it so he knows what it's like.
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That is a good point, I would take his apology more serious if he did that.
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