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Last Edited: 2019-04-26 03:54:58
April 21 2019 18:46 GMT
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NFL Scheduling
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2019 NFL Draft April 25-27
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1. Arizona Cardinals - Kyler Murray, QB Oklahoma
2. San Francisco 49ers - Nick Bosa, DE Ohio State
3. New York Jets - Quinnen Williams, DT Alabama
4. Oakland Raiders - Clelin Ferrell, DE Clemson
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Devin White, LB LSU
6. New York Giants - Daniel Jones, QB Duke
7. Jacksonville Jaguars - Josh Allen, DE Kentucky
8. Detroit Lions - T.J. Hockenson, TE Iowa
9. Buffalo Bills - Ed Oliver, DT Houston
10. Pittsburgh Steelers (via draft day trade with Denver) - Devin Bush, LB Michigan
11. Cincinnati Bengals - Jonah Williams, OT Alabama
12. Green Bay Packers - Rashan Gary, DE Michigan
13. Miami Dolphins - Christian Wilkins, DT Clemson
14. Atlanta Falcons - Chris Lindstrom, OG Boston College
15. Washington Redskins - Dwayne Haskins, QB Ohio State
16. Carolina Panthers - Brian Burns, LB Florida State
17. New York Giants (From Cleveland via Odell Beckham Trade) - Dexter Lawrence, DT Clemson
18. Minnesota Vikings - Garrett Bradbury, C NC State
19. Tennessee Titans - Jeffery Simmons, DT Miss State
20. Denver Broncos (via draft day trade with Pittsburgh) - Noah Fant, TE Iowa
21. Green Bay Packers (via draft day trade with Seattle) - Darnell Savage, Jr., S Maryland
22. Philadelphia Eagles (via draft day trade with Baltimore) - Andre Dillard, OT Washington State
23. Houston Texans - Tytus Howard, OT Alabama State
24. Oakland Raiders (From Chicago via Khalil Mack Trade) - Josh Jacobs, RB Alabama
25. Baltimore Ravens (via draft day trade with Philadelphia) - Marquise Brown, WR Oklahoma
26. Washington Redskins (via draft day trade with Indianapolis) - Montez Sweat, DE Miss State
27. Oakland Raiders (From Dallas via Amari Cooper Trade) - Johnathan Abram, S Miss State
28. Los Angeles Chargers - Jerry Tillery, DT Notre Dame
29. Seattle Seahawks (From Kansas City via Frank Clark Trade) - LJ Collier, DE TCU
30. New York Giants (via draft day trade with Seattle who got it via draft day trade with Green Bay who got it from New Orleans via 2018 NFL Draft Day Trade) - Deandre Baker, CB Georgia
31. Atlanta Falcons (via draft day trade with LA Rams) - Kaleb McGary, OT Washington
32. New England Patriots - N'Keal Harry, WR Arizona State



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NFL Rule Changes
The following rule changes have been approved for the 2019 season at the NFL owners' meeting on March 26, 2019:

Make permanent the experimental kickoff rules from the 2018 season.
Abolish all blindside blocks anywhere on the field (personal foul, 15 yards).
Allow as a one-year experiment to make the following plays reviewable, subject to coaches' challenges outside of the final 2:00 of each half, and subject to booth review after the two-minute warning of each half:
Offensive and defensive pass interference, whether called or not.
Scoring plays and turnovers negated by penalties.
Any extra point or two-point conversion attempt.
Change how double fouls are enforced after a change in possession; the last team to possess retains the ball at the spot of enforcement. If the enforcement spot is after a touchback, the ball is placed at the 20 yard line (after punt) or 25 yard line (free kick). If the spot of enforcement is in the end zone, the ball is placed at the one yard line.
Make scrimmage kick rules apply if a missed field goal is touched in the end zone before hitting the ground, and if the ball is touched by either team behind the line of scrimmage.
Allow teams to enforce a personal foul or unsportsmanlike conduct penalty committed during a touchdown on either the try (PAT or two point conversion) or on the ensuing kickoff.
Allow officials to disqualify players for flagrant "football" plays in addition to "non-football" plays.

The proposed rule for allowing both teams to possess the ball in overtime, even if the first team scored a touchdown, was tabled to the May owners' meeting.

An additional rule change builds upon a rule originally passed in 2018. The league limited football helmets to a list of 34 league-approved models, up from the 23 originally approved in 2018. The grandfather clause allowing existing players to wear their previous non-approved helmets will expire, and 32 of the league's players will be required to change helmets (most prominently Tom Brady, whose Riddell VSR-4 was one of ten now-banned models still in use in 2018).


Preseason Heisman Odds
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College Rule Changes
The following playing rule changes have been recommended by the NCAA Football Rules Committee for 2019:

Requiring replay reviews on targeting calls be either confirmed or overturned by reviewing all aspects of the play. If the review cannot confirm that all elements of targeting exist, the targeting call will be overturned.
Players who commit a second targeting penalty in the same season will not only have to sit out the remainder of that game, but will also have to sit out their team's entire next scheduled game.
Eliminating the two-man wedge on kickoffs.
Starting with the fifth overtime period, each team will line up to attempt a two point conversion instead of snapping the ball from the 25 yard line.
Adding a two-minute break after the second and fourth overtime period.
Blindside blocks delivered with forcible contact will draw a 15-yard penalty (personal foul). If elements of targeting exist, the player delivering the block will be subject to ejection (and suspension if it's the second targeting foul in the season) as with any other targeting foul.


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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8983 Posts
April 21 2019 19:07 GMT
#2
Based Shelly with the new thread! Browns with a 15:1 SB odds. Never thought I'd read that.
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
April 22 2019 12:17 GMT
#3
NFL Rule Changes: Allow officials to disqualify players for flagrant "football" plays in addition to "non-football" plays.

Is that an attempt to stop deliberate fouls? A few times last season I saw a WR get behind the defence only to be dragged down by a CB because the pass interference penalty was better than the touchdown. That new rule sounds like the red card for a 'professional foul' in soccer.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 22 2019 14:51 GMT
#4
I interpreted it as targeting for the nfl. Like the rule in college. For non football I think that’s like fighting but football plays is like crown of the helmet to the face. I’ll try to see if there’s a clarification
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Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
April 22 2019 15:13 GMT
#5
On April 22 2019 23:51 Shellshock wrote:
I interpreted it as targeting for the nfl. Like the rule in college. For non football I think that’s like fighting but football plays is like crown of the helmet to the face. I’ll try to see if there’s a clarification

I thought they changed it last year so that a player could be ejected for particularly nasty hits, which is why I got confused. I tried looking in the actual rule book but only found the 2018 version. However, the rule changes for 2019 say the rule being changed is 15-1-5, which seems to say a player could be ejected by video. So I guess the new rule is that the officials can use video evidence to decide whether a hit was nasty enough to deserve an ejection. Maybe. It would keep with the theme of this years rule changes: make more things reviewable.

A little disappointed there wasn't something about intentional fouls though because I think we will see more of them in the future. There are coaches out there willing to exploit the rules and to even order their players to commit fouls. If it helps win games then definitely some people will do it.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-22 17:12:35
April 22 2019 17:11 GMT
#6
Yeah I'm seeing what you said about the video review. They gave an example in this article that if the officials on the field couldnt decide they could get video confirmation
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/27/authority-for-officiating-office-to-eject-players-expanded-to-include-football-plays/
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Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1917 Posts
April 23 2019 07:53 GMT
#7
So, is Frank Clark going to be traded? There is certainly speculation, probably partly because there is not too many other things going on rn.

My best bet is that he will not get traded because the Seahawks will not get a high enough price for such a premium player with a rising production curve. Considering what the Raiders got for Mack, a late 1st round pick should not be enough at all, even considering he is a tagged player:
The Bears gave up first-round picks in 2019 and 2020, a third-round pick in 2020 and a sixth-round pick in 2019 to acquire Mack earlier Saturday. In return, the Bears also received a second-round pick in 2020 and a conditional fifth-round pick in 2020.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-23 09:36:08
April 23 2019 09:34 GMT
#8
preseason heisman odds links to the same nfl scheduling picture fyi

re: frank clark trade - dee ford got traded for a second rounder on the franchise tag so i expect something similar. he is no way the talent of mack to warrant multiple first rounders, let alone just one.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 23 2019 15:55 GMT
#9
Thanks GTR. should be fixed
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Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 23 2019 17:56 GMT
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Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1917 Posts
April 23 2019 19:21 GMT
#11
On April 24 2019 02:56 JimmiC wrote:
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On April 23 2019 18:34 GTR wrote:
preseason heisman odds links to the same nfl scheduling picture fyi

re: frank clark trade - dee ford got traded for a second rounder on the franchise tag so i expect something similar. he is no way the talent of mack to warrant multiple first rounders, let alone just one.


The first domino of the Russel Wilson contract. Chiefs gave up the first and second and a swap of 3'rds next year. Pretty good haul but those are super late picks.


No Malic Mcdowells please! I really hope they get some very solid players from this! Reed was a great pick in the 1st round and Clark was a steal late 2nd because of character issues.

The 'Hawks D-linen loses a major force, though... cap casualty caused by and inflated qb market as you said.

I wonder if someone will break the trend and simply refuse to pay any single player 15+ million a year to make a more balanced team.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 24 2019 16:49 GMT
#12
https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2019-04-23/targeting-protocols-approved-football

OT and targeting changes for college approved
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Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8983 Posts
April 24 2019 21:45 GMT
#13
On April 24 2019 04:21 Slydie wrote:
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On April 24 2019 02:56 JimmiC wrote:
On April 23 2019 18:34 GTR wrote:
preseason heisman odds links to the same nfl scheduling picture fyi

re: frank clark trade - dee ford got traded for a second rounder on the franchise tag so i expect something similar. he is no way the talent of mack to warrant multiple first rounders, let alone just one.


The first domino of the Russel Wilson contract. Chiefs gave up the first and second and a swap of 3'rds next year. Pretty good haul but those are super late picks.


No Malic Mcdowells please! I really hope they get some very solid players from this! Reed was a great pick in the 1st round and Clark was a steal late 2nd because of character issues.

The 'Hawks D-linen loses a major force, though... cap casualty caused by and inflated qb market as you said.

I wonder if someone will break the trend and simply refuse to pay any single player 15+ million a year to make a more balanced team.

Patriots do it every season.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-25 19:57:00
April 25 2019 19:54 GMT
#14
On April 25 2019 06:45 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2019 04:21 Slydie wrote:
On April 24 2019 02:56 JimmiC wrote:
On April 23 2019 18:34 GTR wrote:
preseason heisman odds links to the same nfl scheduling picture fyi

re: frank clark trade - dee ford got traded for a second rounder on the franchise tag so i expect something similar. he is no way the talent of mack to warrant multiple first rounders, let alone just one.


The first domino of the Russel Wilson contract. Chiefs gave up the first and second and a swap of 3'rds next year. Pretty good haul but those are super late picks.


No Malic Mcdowells please! I really hope they get some very solid players from this! Reed was a great pick in the 1st round and Clark was a steal late 2nd because of character issues.

The 'Hawks D-linen loses a major force, though... cap casualty caused by and inflated qb market as you said.

I wonder if someone will break the trend and simply refuse to pay any single player 15+ million a year to make a more balanced team.

Patriots do it every season.


For real, the Patriots don't do big contracts - their biggest contract in the past few years was for Stephon Gilmore (5yr/65M, 31M guaranteed, 13M average) which is big but not bank-breaking. He turned out to be a huge asset to the secondary and was extremely pivotal in the Pats' success in the past few years.

Other than that, they dont pay 15+/year for any player, not even Brady. The Patriots know how much power they have when signing players - people dont go to the Pats to earn $$, they go to win, and players can see the benefit of earning less on a salary but having potential endorsements/fame for being a Patriot/SB champ.

You will NEVER see the Pats sign a famous player for big money, because it is putting all of your eggs in one basket. If that player regresses to the mean at all, it is automatically not worth it. They would rather pay 2-3 players of slightly less skill and coach them up to bridge the gap.
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-25 20:02:28
April 25 2019 20:01 GMT
#15
Also tonight's draft night BOYS - he hasn't even been drafted and I am already sick of Kyler Murray. At least last year there were 4-6 top QBs to spread love to, now its like 90% Murray, 8% Haskins, 2% Lock, 0.1% Daniel Jones hype.

my top 5 picks are:

#1 (Cardinals): Quinnen Williams
#2 (49ers): Nick Bosa
#3 (Redskins via trade with Jets): Kyler Murray
#4 (Raiders): Daniel Jones
#5 (Buccaneers): Josh Allen
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 25 2019 21:25 GMT
#16
Dan Snyder allegedly taking control of round 1. We are fucked. About to trade 3 1st rounders for Murray
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8983 Posts
April 25 2019 22:10 GMT
#17
Heard patriots are looking at will Grier to draft. Keep me posted please.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18826 Posts
April 25 2019 22:12 GMT
#18
I would bet that once Brady is gone, the Patriots are gonna have to resort to at least a few big deal contracts. He's basically the example setter for the whole team and his interest in being the best and winning over making a big contract salary is highly unusual all things considered.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8983 Posts
April 25 2019 22:56 GMT
#19
And I'm sure he can rationalize it, considering his wife.
Shellshock
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United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-26 00:15:17
April 26 2019 00:10 GMT
#20
Pre Draft News bomb Drop


https://old.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/bhf6tq/kctv5_in_5_minutes_the_kctv5_news_investigators/
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