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On May 01 2019 19:18 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 19:16 Morbidius wrote: Real question, what broke ZvP in toss favor? seems like toss figured out strong timings they can do with the cheaper robo
True, Nydus nerf surely has a huge part in this new meta. I actually loved 2018-early 2019 ZvP, Nydus made it seem too strong in Zerg favor but now those timing pushes appear so hard to hold for Zerg, it's kind of boring to watch them 24/7.
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On May 01 2019 19:19 Tyrhanius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 19:16 Morbidius wrote: Real question, what broke ZvP in toss favor? Probably the fact that due to overlord drop nerf, nyndus nerf, Protoss can go right into robo first without any fear and attack at a timing where zerg can't have anything else than roach/ravager. Nydus is actually better vs stargate than vs robo so I don't see how that one had anything to with immortals lol
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Now all that we need is for Zergs and Terrans to come together and suggest a nerf to protoss that benefits them both.
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On May 01 2019 19:26 Morbidius wrote: Now all that we need is for Zergs and Terrans to come together and suggest a nerf to protoss that benefits them both. remove shields
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Lol good to know not to bother watching the vods for this group
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On May 01 2019 19:26 Morbidius wrote: Now all that we need is for Zergs and Terrans to come together and suggest a nerf to protoss that benefits them both.
Before seriously asking for a Protoss nerf I need to see non korean Zerg slaughtered in ZvP at international tournaments. I hope effective builds to counter these pushes will be found before this happens.
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On May 01 2019 19:30 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 19:26 Morbidius wrote: Now all that we need is for Zergs and Terrans to come together and suggest a nerf to protoss that benefits them both. Before seriously asking for a Protoss nerf I need to see non korean Zerg slaughtered in ZvP at international tournaments. I hope effective builds to counter these pushes will be found before this happens. Foreign Protoss players may not even play this style though as most of them play much more conservative compared to korean ones.
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On May 01 2019 19:30 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 19:26 Morbidius wrote: Now all that we need is for Zergs and Terrans to come together and suggest a nerf to protoss that benefits them both. Before seriously asking for a Protoss nerf I need to see non korean Zerg slaughtered in ZvP at international tournaments. I hope effective builds to counter these pushes will be found before this happens. GSL vs the World is still a while away.
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On May 01 2019 19:30 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 19:26 Morbidius wrote: Now all that we need is for Zergs and Terrans to come together and suggest a nerf to protoss that benefits them both. Before seriously asking for a Protoss nerf I need to see non korean Zerg slaughtered in ZvP at international tournaments. I hope effective builds to counter these pushes will be found before this happens. Non Korean Zergs are the new standard for good zerg play. We need he who must not be named back.
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On May 01 2019 19:34 Morbidius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 19:30 Xain0n wrote:On May 01 2019 19:26 Morbidius wrote: Now all that we need is for Zergs and Terrans to come together and suggest a nerf to protoss that benefits them both. Before seriously asking for a Protoss nerf I need to see non korean Zerg slaughtered in ZvP at international tournaments. I hope effective builds to counter these pushes will be found before this happens. Non Korean Zergs are the new standard for good zerg play. We need he who must not be named back. sniper?
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even though it might be a little offtopic here. Does anyone know why they put this weird GSL Cobalt map in this season?
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On May 01 2019 19:30 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 19:26 Morbidius wrote: Now all that we need is for Zergs and Terrans to come together and suggest a nerf to protoss that benefits them both. Before seriously asking for a Protoss nerf I need to see non korean Zerg slaughtered in ZvP at international tournaments. I hope effective builds to counter these pushes will be found before this happens.
What's a non korean Zerg? A fake collective noun for Serral? Reynor lost to Creator in IEM qualifier, Scarlett lost to herO twice in Code S season 1.. Other non-korean zergs getting slaughtered in ZvP in international tournaments is just common sense
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On May 01 2019 19:37 Need wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 19:30 Xain0n wrote:On May 01 2019 19:26 Morbidius wrote: Now all that we need is for Zergs and Terrans to come together and suggest a nerf to protoss that benefits them both. Before seriously asking for a Protoss nerf I need to see non korean Zerg slaughtered in ZvP at international tournaments. I hope effective builds to counter these pushes will be found before this happens. What's a non korean Zerg? A fake collective noun for Serral? Reynor lost to Creator in IEM qualifier, Scarlett lost to herO twice in Code S season 1.. Other non-korean zergs getting slaughtered in ZvP in international tournaments is just common sense you hit the nail right on the head
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Hurricane holds the attack like a god and then falls apart to 3 adepts
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On May 01 2019 19:37 Need wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 19:30 Xain0n wrote:On May 01 2019 19:26 Morbidius wrote: Now all that we need is for Zergs and Terrans to come together and suggest a nerf to protoss that benefits them both. Before seriously asking for a Protoss nerf I need to see non korean Zerg slaughtered in ZvP at international tournaments. I hope effective builds to counter these pushes will be found before this happens. What's a non korean Zerg? A fake collective noun for Serral? Reynor lost to Creator in IEM qualifier, Scarlett lost to herO twice in Code S season 1.. Other non-korean zergs getting slaughtered in ZvP in international tournaments is just common sense Serral winning of course. When he doesn't win he clearly has the black plague or something so its not relevant.
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On May 01 2019 19:37 Need wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 19:30 Xain0n wrote:On May 01 2019 19:26 Morbidius wrote: Now all that we need is for Zergs and Terrans to come together and suggest a nerf to protoss that benefits them both. Before seriously asking for a Protoss nerf I need to see non korean Zerg slaughtered in ZvP at international tournaments. I hope effective builds to counter these pushes will be found before this happens. What's a non korean Zerg? A fake collective noun for Serral? Reynor lost to Creator in IEM qualifier, Scarlett lost to herO twice in Code S season 1.. Other non-korean zergs getting slaughtered in ZvP in international tournaments is just common sense Nerchio?
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pretty funny game, classic lost every big engagement but came back ahead through harass
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On May 01 2019 19:40 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 19:37 Need wrote:On May 01 2019 19:30 Xain0n wrote:On May 01 2019 19:26 Morbidius wrote: Now all that we need is for Zergs and Terrans to come together and suggest a nerf to protoss that benefits them both. Before seriously asking for a Protoss nerf I need to see non korean Zerg slaughtered in ZvP at international tournaments. I hope effective builds to counter these pushes will be found before this happens. What's a non korean Zerg? A fake collective noun for Serral? Reynor lost to Creator in IEM qualifier, Scarlett lost to herO twice in Code S season 1.. Other non-korean zergs getting slaughtered in ZvP in international tournaments is just common sense Nerchio? He's destroying those koreans in the LR!
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soft wind got a big advantage 3 times in that game and Classic still won through split army + harass shenanigans, what a weird game
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