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Plansix
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
On May 01 2018 10:18 Plansix wrote: But we are not taking their word for it. Our own intelligence services are saying Iran is complying with the terms of the deal. Ah but it isn't. Iran is supposed to allow "limited access" to military sites if the IAEA wants to inspect them, Iran has declared inspections for such sites are off-limits period. Suspicion is particularly focused on the Parchin military complex outside Tehran, in particular, a high explosive test chamber constructed at Arak in the late 1990s and later moved to Parchin that it has been suspected was constructed and has been used to test implosion designs for a bomb. It isn't just the US government making accusations, the Institute for Science and International Security says access to Parchin should be given by Iran. Iran has said any inspections of Parchin or any other "military site" would be a "red line." The deal is constructed such that Iran can say "Nope" to any inspection of any self-declared "military site." The terms of the deal are inadequate. They shouldn't get the benefit of the doubt, nor should the ability of Western intelligence agencies be considered adequate with regards to these off-limits sites. Inspections by the IAEA should be taking place in them as well. Again there is no reason to trust any country that declares inspections won't be allowed in certain places. | ||
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Plansix
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lastpuritan
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Broetchenholer
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
Explosions were reported south of Damascus on Tuesday, shortly after the Israeli army announced it believes Iran is planning to carry out an imminent strike from Syria. A pro-Assad commander said Israeli fighter jets struck a Syria army position south of Damascus, adding that there were no casualties. Syrian state media reported that Syrian air defenses fired at two Israeli missiles, destroying both in the Kisweh area. The reports come on the heels of U.S. President Donald Trump's dramatic withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal. Also Tuesday, the Israeli ordered communities in the northern Golan Heights, near the Israel-Syria border, to open shelters to the public after identifying "unusual movements" of Iranian forces in Syria, the military said in a statement. The Israeli army believes Iran is making efforts to carry out an imminent retaliation against Israel. Intelligence officers and other specialized forces have been called up, though reserve combat units have not been drafted. Source. I really wonder if Iran is actually doing anything or if Israel is just generating excuses to further bait Iran into conflict. | ||
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Starlightsun
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On May 09 2018 05:44 Starlightsun wrote: This escalation by Israel is making me so mad. Shame on our politicians for so cravenly arming and supporting Israel no matter what they do. Netanyahu has correctly made the call that the leadership in Congress is toothless and unwilling to do anything of substance, especially if it involves putting checks on the President. They may not be interested in military conflict with Iran, but they won’t oppose the President if he decides to back Netanyahu’s play. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
And I'm not really worried about Trump getting sucked into a war with Iran. He's shown ample resistance to expansive military conflict so far. He's just likes to play hardball with his big military stick. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Anything is possible. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On May 09 2018 06:07 Plansix wrote: That was pre-Bolton era Trump. Now his entire foreign policy staff is made up of war hawks and Bush era Neoconservatives how have openly advocated for bombing Iran the same way they advocated for invading Iraq. Anything is possible. And that's the rub: it's all speculative hysteria. Remember this tweet from Ben Rhodes? Looks pretty retarded now, doesn't it? The point is that Trump is clearly calling the shots on his foreign policy and is largely adhering to the vision that he campaign on. For that reason, the emphasis upon appointing people like Bolton to his cabinet is overblown. | ||
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Plansix
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Starlightsun
United States1405 Posts
https://apnews.com/cead755353a1455bbef08ef289448994/Trump-decides-to-exit-nuclear-accord-with-Iran | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5268 Posts
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu left Israel for Moscow Wednesday morning, saying that his meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin would be focused on “ensuring ongoing military cooperation in Syria.” syrians claim that they've destroyed some(two) israeli missiles when that bombing occurred. that couldn't have happened(unless random chance nails the dice) without russians giving some tracking/iding codes for those israeli missiles to the syrians(could also be that the russians started to coordinate/run the syrian air defenses) so Netanyahu goes to Putin to ask whatthefuckhappened. based on the (new)deal those two come up with(if any), Israel and Russia could become enemies in Syria(they used to have mutual understandings and mainly ignored each other until now).... “I’m leaving first thing this morning to an important meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin,” Netanyahu said in a brief statement before boarding his plane. “Our meetings are always important, and this one is especially so. Given what is happening now in Syria, it is important to ensure the continued security coordination between the Russian army and the Israel Defense Forces,” he said. The trip comes after Syrian media reported on Tuesday night that Israel bombed a site south of Damascus, reportedly killing nine pro-Iranian fighters in an area previously identified as the site of a suspected Iranian military base. Netanyahu brought Trump's balls with him for leverage/to sweeten the pot but if the russians were into nation building in Syria(and they were), shit will end up pretty bad for the whole zone. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On May 10 2018 07:33 xDaunt wrote: Looks like Iran is retaliating against Israel and firing rockets at the Golan Heights. This is about to get ugly. source? | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
It's pretty much everywhere, but here's just one: Some 20 rockets were fired at Israeli military bases by Iranian forces in southern Syria just after midnight on Thursday, with some of the incoming missiles being intercepted by the Iron Dome defense system, the army said, amid sky high tensions on the northern border. There were no reports of Israeli casualties in the attack. An army spokesperson said damage was caused to Israeli military bases, but that it was “limited.” The Israeli army said the missile barrage was carried out by members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps’ Quds Forces. This appeared to be one of the few instances of a direct attack on Israel by Iran, which generally operates through proxies. Syrian state media reported that Israeli artillery fire targeted a military post near the city of Baath in the Quneitra border region, where Syrian regime forces were stationed. The Israel Defense Forces spokesperson confirmed that the army had retaliated to the alleged Iranian attack, but would not comments on the specific details. It was not immediately clear if this artillery barrage would constitute Israel’s full response to the rocket attack or if additional retaliations by the IDF against Iranian forces in Syria were to come. “The IDF sees this Iranian attack on Israel with severity,” said IDF spokesperson Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus. Source. | ||
KwarK
United States41637 Posts
On May 09 2018 06:31 xDaunt wrote: And that's the rub: it's all speculative hysteria. Remember this tweet from Ben Rhodes? https://twitter.com/brhodes/status/911334023288557568 Looks pretty retarded now, doesn't it? That's perhaps one of the stupidest things I've ever seen you attempt to argue. 1) We cannot conclude upon the likelihood of a unique event happening using the fact that it happened as our only datapoint. We know that it happened once, we do not know whether it happened based on a 1:1 chance or a 1:100 chance, only that it happened. 2) We cannot conclude that all things that happened before the event happened increased the odds of it happening. Your argument relies upon the impossibility of any negative factors being overcome. "It happened AND Trump tweeted insults, therefore it can only have happened if Trumps insults were a positive factor". The exact same argument could be made for the cumulative weight of Trump's bowel movements. They preceded the peace, therefore they made it more likely. 3) Your argument ignores all other potential factors, which is surprising given that Trump wasn't the guy who made peace with KJI. I would consider the SK President a factor in the peace. 4) Your argument presumes that in a sample size of one a more likely event is certain to happen before a less likely event. It's not the tweeter that looks retarded xDaunt. It's the same person as always. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9170 Posts
I postulate that KwarK's rude tone is responsible for this deescalation. Whoever said we should be civil to each other in these threads looks pretty retarded now. | ||
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Plansix
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