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On March 18 2017 22:43 InfCereal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2017 22:33 Jae Zedong wrote: Yeah I mean the only reason I prefer Bach, Chopin and Debussy over Nickelback is nostalgia. I mean if I put on my big boy pants and see past the nostalgia, I acknowledge that Nickelback is objectively better. Because Nickelback is way more modern and uses like, electricity and stuff. I should really just get with the times. Don't disgrace nickleback by comparing them to Bach. Come on. True. From now on we should just call all Bach music "Nickelback 1" and mention it as little as possible. Silence it to death, you know? Since it could confuse new listeners.
We will call the real nickelback "Nickelback 2". People will know it's automatically better because 2 is bigger than 1.
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ok guys, let's take it easy on the trolling and focus on what this could mean for the community
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On March 18 2017 19:05 c3rberUs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2017 17:29 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 18 2017 15:12 ninazerg wrote: I can't wait for all the normies to start talking about StarCraft: Brood War. Can't wait for noobs to come on TL.net and ask "What's the best build?", and give their professional opinions about what needs to be nerfed. It's gonna be so much fun. I doubt things will get that good. "Proposal to change Dark Templars" "Let's talk about Defiler-lings/Protoss" "What happened to Blizzard's effort to buff Bio (TvP)?" "Carriers, how to stop them as T?"
To followup on my request for 2 separate ladder modes (100.00% pure BW, and SC2 shortcuts) I'd actually be fine if Blizzard goofs around with the SC2 shortcut balance. As long as the pure original mode is still intact as an option, it'd be amusing to see them try to balance a game not designed for the shortcuts. And they could buff Scouts, ushering in a new era of the the stove.
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On March 18 2017 17:12 Wrath wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2017 16:32 Jealous wrote:On March 18 2017 16:26 Wrath wrote: I'll be the pessimistic guy and say the sold out part could be due to running out of keys. Remember, SC key is basically 13 digits combination (pure digits, no letters) that achieve a specific pattern. The game is nearly 20 years and made a huge success that was not planned for at all. Isn't that possible?
Thoughts? No, because the digital keys are like 20 digits long and alpha-numeric. Even if we were to entertain your idea, 10^13 is more than the world's population * 10^3. Even if only one key out of a thousand met the requirement to be a key, there would be a key for every person on the planet, which as you well know is thousands of times more people than those who have purchased BW at any time. It is only 13 digits only in this format "xxxx - xxxxx - xxxx" Also, it is possible that not the 13 digits together used to form the pattern but the 3 parts are used together. Example There is a specific pattern to be met with the first 4 digits, another pattern with the 2nd part and another pattern with the 3rd part. This could limit the number of keys to some millions. I like how you willfully ignored the fact that I said that the digital keys (the ones you get with your StarCraft Brood War download on Battle.net, the very subject you are asking about) are actually alpha-numeric and ~20-24 characters in total, and continued to push your pessimistic fantasy. I'm sure even you can understand how many potential digital keys there are.
As I already said, even if only 1 key out of 1000 satisfied your pattern hypothesis, every person on Earth right now would have a key. To put it a different way, every person in Korea would have 1000 keys. You can do the math and scale appropriately to how "demanding" you think your pattern is. However, this would only apply to hardcopy StarCraft, which probably has no pertinence to the online download of StarCraft which has a completely different key system.
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When installing, the original SC only checks if the sum of the digits is divisible by 3. There's a separate unknown check when trying to get online though.
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On March 19 2017 01:14 Crisium wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2017 19:05 c3rberUs wrote:On March 18 2017 17:29 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 18 2017 15:12 ninazerg wrote: I can't wait for all the normies to start talking about StarCraft: Brood War. Can't wait for noobs to come on TL.net and ask "What's the best build?", and give their professional opinions about what needs to be nerfed. It's gonna be so much fun. I doubt things will get that good. "Proposal to change Dark Templars" "Let's talk about Defiler-lings/Protoss" "What happened to Blizzard's effort to buff Bio (TvP)?" "Carriers, how to stop them as T?" To followup on my request for 2 separate ladder modes (100.00% pure BW, and SC2 shortcuts) I'd actually be fine if Blizzard goofs around with the SC2 shortcut balance. As long as the pure original mode is still intact as an option, it'd be amusing to see them try to balance a game not designed for the shortcuts. And they could buff Scouts, ushering in a new era of the the stove.
Do a separate ladder for beginners and veterans. Beginners should be able to explore the mechanics without stress. SC2 shortcuts will only separate the community.
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I am sure the announcement would be done in Blizzcon. They wouldn't miss an opportunities to build a hype.
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On March 19 2017 01:59 AndYouSayHeDoesntHac wrote: I am sure the announcement would be done in Blizzcon. They wouldn't miss an opportunities to build a hype.
I dont think BW Remastered is Blizzcon announcement material, its not a new game its just a remade version of their classic game due to the popularity in Korea and as a response for the continued interest in competitive play. They always reserve announcements in Blizzcon for something totally new.
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To settle the key argument: Even if they actually run out of keys (as Jealous said this is very, very unlikely) do you honestly believe they noticed it over night and simply stopped selling? They would have known for months that they'd run out of keys soon, and as in love as the modern blizzard is with making cash I highly doubt they wouldn't have been able to come up with a solution before they ran out of keys. Chances are that the HD patch/update will be free for all who already own BW so they want to make sure that as many people as possible pay the premium prize for getting the new version when it comes out.
You don't just run out of digital versions. Something is coming up. The only question is whether Blizz will manage to fuck it up or not.
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On March 19 2017 01:14 Crisium wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2017 19:05 c3rberUs wrote:On March 18 2017 17:29 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 18 2017 15:12 ninazerg wrote: I can't wait for all the normies to start talking about StarCraft: Brood War. Can't wait for noobs to come on TL.net and ask "What's the best build?", and give their professional opinions about what needs to be nerfed. It's gonna be so much fun. I doubt things will get that good. "Proposal to change Dark Templars" "Let's talk about Defiler-lings/Protoss" "What happened to Blizzard's effort to buff Bio (TvP)?" "Carriers, how to stop them as T?" To followup on my request for 2 separate ladder modes (100.00% pure BW, and SC2 shortcuts) I'd actually be fine if Blizzard goofs around with the SC2 shortcut balance. As long as the pure original mode is still intact as an option, it'd be amusing to see them try to balance a game not designed for the shortcuts. And they could buff Scouts, ushering in a new era of the the stove. That sounds terrible for the ladder population.
On March 19 2017 02:16 ICanFlyLow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2017 01:59 AndYouSayHeDoesntHac wrote: I am sure the announcement would be done in Blizzcon. They wouldn't miss an opportunities to build a hype. I dont think BW Remastered is Blizzcon announcement material, its not a new game its just a remade version of their classic game due to the popularity in Korea and as a response for the continued interest in competitive play. They always reserve announcements in Blizzcon for something totally new. That's not necessarily true. They've didn't announce SC2, D3, Hearthstone, Reaper of Souls, or Legion at Blizzcon.
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All I want is rebindable hotkeys. Would people be against that actually?
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On March 19 2017 02:51 Ansibled wrote: All I want is rebindable hotkeys. Would people be against that actually?
For 20 years people played without such things just fine. I am sure you will adjust.
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On March 19 2017 02:51 Ansibled wrote: All I want is rebindable hotkeys. Would people be against that actually?
I think wanting rebindable hotkeys is completely reasonable and I would think that, if all this is legit, this is something that needs to be implemented
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On March 19 2017 03:18 duke91 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2017 02:51 Ansibled wrote: All I want is rebindable hotkeys. Would people be against that actually? For 20 years people played without such things just fine. I am sure you will adjust. This is something that hurts no one.
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On March 19 2017 03:27 GoShox wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2017 02:51 Ansibled wrote: All I want is rebindable hotkeys. Would people be against that actually? I think wanting rebindable hotkeys is completely reasonable and I would think that, if all this is legit, this is something that needs to be implemented
No it's also totally useless considering in BW, 90% of the games you will need to be all over the keyboard in any case because hotkeys 1-0 will be used. Having keys rebinded in one side will not make things easier. It may be reasonable for SC2, where you only need to use one control group for units and one to three for macro, but this is not the case for BW.
There are tools (doxstar) which allows you to rebind keys already, but no one really uses them because there is no need.
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I personally think allowing rebindable hotkeys would be a great addition. Add that, a new low latency ladder, Blizzard's newer aggressive anti hacking measures, and a few other things that could benefit from patching (most notably fixing synchronization in replays, the muddled startup in newer Windows, and memory related bugs such as the sprite limit) and we're golden!
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On March 18 2017 23:32 BigFan wrote:ok guys, let's take it easy on the trolling and focus on what this could mean for the community
More girls playing Brood War = I might finally have a girlfriend for the first time in my 26 year old virgin life.
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You cannot argue with someone who is even against rebindable hotkeys tbh
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On March 19 2017 03:49 The_Red_Viper wrote: You cannot argue with someone who is even against rebindable hotkeys tbh
True but I think Blizzard knows that such viewpoints are held by a vast minority, It wouldn't be a deal breaker to me if they weren't included but they really should.
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On March 19 2017 02:37 Lorch wrote: To settle the key argument: Even if they actually run out of keys (as Jealous said this is very, very unlikely) do you honestly believe they noticed it over night and simply stopped selling? They would have known for months that they'd run out of keys soon, and as in love as the modern blizzard is with making cash I highly doubt they wouldn't have been able to come up with a solution before they ran out of keys. Chances are that the HD patch/update will be free for all who already own BW so they want to make sure that as many people as possible pay the premium prize for getting the new version when it comes out.
You don't just run out of digital versions. Something is coming up. The only question is whether Blizz will manage to fuck it up or not.
I just thought of it as a theory as stop selling because of an HD preview next week doesn't seem convincing to me at least. Also, how much you think the premium price will cost? Will it be something like $30?
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