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18/40
On May 04 2016 01:34 Koshi wrote:
Well between this ridiculous oath and the modwarning I guess gumshoe is now confirmed town. There was no BM at all in this game, just some an over emotional gumshoe. Or my stubborness gets seen as BM now. But I don't see how that is possible.
So with the mod confirming this isn't an act I am forced to vote HTS.
##unvote
##vote HTS
I still think Shape is mafia but I guess I sheep the confirmed town.
Skimmed the last page and I think much of the preceding play speaks for itself. I couldn't get to the GB case contrast unfortunately but I'll just say this much, gumshoe's gameplay in mylo and elsewhere revolves around a significant amount of self meta and WIFOM.
I feel I've been able to demonstrate the holes in most if not all his points, he's repeatedly taken points out of context on me (and possibly GB) and with the emotional outburst he is doing what he needs to do - survive. Town need to find mafia and scum need to survive. The scepticism on Shape isnt and wasn't there.
I'll also state that I don't understand why emotional appeal with or without mod warning confirms him as town - the vast majority of mods do not go for a direct modkill outside racist/sexist/homophobic but I digress.
I have also seen scum go for emotional appeal and/or look to fake things like these to get what they desire - recent examples
1 ritoky discussing his broken hand to dismiss a push against him on Outlaw (he wasn't lying but it was how the story was used)
2 Fidei cursing out his mafia teammate Nocturne Mage in the thread in Newbie 18
3 Onegu planned/drafted a fit of rage in the Outlaw scum qt and asked me as a cohost whether his fake rage was enough for us to warn him.
My point is scum are capable of faking rage or acting as such out of frustration because they are on the verge of being found out.
I'd be less bitterly disappointed if I had a legit case made against me based on scummy things I actually did or taken the multiple angles approach combining VCA in the appropriate context votes were made.
I'd be less disappointed if the cases being made against me even discussed the mistakes I made like discussing my push on Tictock or why Fecalfeast or GB one liners spooked me to make poor calls on them.
In any case I have to leave the thread, I am spending my entire evening with a client and I cannot return by end of day.
Even if I'm mislynched I'm now 99% confident I've found the final scum, my inability to push past this is due to work.
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On May 04 2016 02:19 gumshoe wrote:
also shape
"a fuck, koshis right shapes been so useless forever, I guess he just wasn't thinking about jumping onto ff, that and dyh must have bussed knowing he wouldnt be too active/listened to"
THAT is how fucking easy it would be to scum read you. My reasoning for hard tring people is often very diffrent from most players, which makes it easy to discard because they dont see the sense in my logic in the first place. Of course im not doing that because im town and it DOES make sense to me and its all I need.
Hts has convinced far better players than me that she was town (damdred and koshi) in this very game, I would never willingly be in this position as scum.
my scum game is lazy, I dont have a single one over 4 pages, I'm just not that motivated to play as scum. I would never create more work for myself.
also forgive me for assuming that you were going to vote me once you started referring to me as a douchy super villain -_-
19/40
More self meta.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz........
If Shape is mafia, which I highly doubt at this point, town can whinge at me for my part in throwing in mylo again but being confident you're scum, I hope this is a lesson learnt for everyone else, I know emotional appeal has been a complaint from players as both alignments.
Even when true (see examples) and regardless of how a mod reacts I think people should more critically think how the emotion is used and what your intentions are.
The contrast in play was simple.
I'm not playing to survive, I can only go so far.
You, however are.
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20/40
I'm done.
I urge you to look through the cases, the gameplay, the associative reads and the intentions behind gumshoe's play. I think today and day 1 gives the most obvious evidence where the final scum is and I hope Koshi you'll think about what I said at least, I can't really control anything that happens after this.
GGs everyone. Regardless of what happens, I really hope town will find a way but if not, hopefully postgame will be constructive.
Disformation and NocturneMage will both discuss my gameplay among other things, in the postgame.
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On May 04 2016 02:36 Half the Sky wrote:18/40 Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 01:34 Koshi wrote:
Well between this ridiculous oath and the modwarning I guess gumshoe is now confirmed town. There was no BM at all in this game, just some an over emotional gumshoe. Or my stubborness gets seen as BM now. But I don't see how that is possible.
So with the mod confirming this isn't an act I am forced to vote HTS.
##unvote
##vote HTS
I still think Shape is mafia but I guess I sheep the confirmed town. Skimmed the last page and I think much of the preceding play speaks for itself. I couldn't get to the GB case contrast unfortunately but I'll just say this much, gumshoe's gameplay in mylo and elsewhere revolves around a significant amount of self meta and WIFOM. I feel I've been able to demonstrate the holes in most if not all his points, he's repeatedly taken points out of context on me (and possibly GB) and with the emotional outburst he is doing what he needs to do - survive. Town need to find mafia and scum need to survive. The scepticism on Shape isnt and wasn't there. I'll also state that I don't understand why emotional appeal with or without mod warning confirms him as town - the vast majority of mods do not go for a direct modkill outside racist/sexist/homophobic but I digress. I have also seen scum go for emotional appeal and/or look to fake things like these to get what they desire - recent examples 1 ritoky discussing his broken hand to dismiss a push against him on Outlaw (he wasn't lying but it was how the story was used) 2 Fidei cursing out his mafia teammate Nocturne Mage in the thread in Newbie 18 3 Onegu planned/drafted a fit of rage in the Outlaw scum qt and asked me as a cohost whether his fake rage was enough for us to warn him. My point is scum are capable of faking rage or acting as such out of frustration because they are on the verge of being found out. I'd be less bitterly disappointed if I had a legit case made against me based on scummy things I actually did or taken the multiple angles approach combining VCA in the appropriate context votes were made. I'd be less disappointed if the cases being made against me even discussed the mistakes I made like discussing my push on Tictock or why Fecalfeast or GB one liners spooked me to make poor calls on them. In any case I have to leave the thread, I am spending my entire evening with a client and I cannot return by end of day. Even if I'm mislynched I'm now 99% confident I've found the final scum, my inability to push past this is due to work.
I don't make the oath as scum / : never have never will. Also I don't have nearly this much activity as scum.
Me bieng scum in this position is just as extraordinary if not more so than you bieng scum here.
Difference is I was attacked by dyh while you were omega trd by him
I had no reason to kill Damdred while it fits your machinations perfectly (trying to frame tumble, killing someone who was capable of scum reading you)
That and as I said, sl only went after you once you decided to bus him, and he voted off you for no reason other than the appearance of the vote chart showing you as the alt wagon.
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On May 04 2016 02:41 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 02:19 gumshoe wrote:
also shape
"a fuck, koshis right shapes been so useless forever, I guess he just wasn't thinking about jumping onto ff, that and dyh must have bussed knowing he wouldnt be too active/listened to"
THAT is how fucking easy it would be to scum read you. My reasoning for hard tring people is often very diffrent from most players, which makes it easy to discard because they dont see the sense in my logic in the first place. Of course im not doing that because im town and it DOES make sense to me and its all I need.
Hts has convinced far better players than me that she was town (damdred and koshi) in this very game, I would never willingly be in this position as scum.
my scum game is lazy, I dont have a single one over 4 pages, I'm just not that motivated to play as scum. I would never create more work for myself.
also forgive me for assuming that you were going to vote me once you started referring to me as a douchy super villain -_-
19/40 More self meta. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz........ If Shape is mafia, which I highly doubt at this point, town can whinge at me for my part in throwing in mylo again but being confident you're scum, I hope this is a lesson learnt for everyone else, I know emotional appeal has been a complaint from players as both alignments. Even when true (see examples) and regardless of how a mod reacts I think people should more critically think how the emotion is used and what your intentions are. The contrast in play was simple. I'm not playing to survive, I can only go so far. You, however are.
Of course your playing to survive XD you flopped between shape and me all day
I woulda voted shape if I just wanted to survive. I will only lynch you, that is not survival, it is and nearly was, scuicide .
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##unvote
##vote Shape
Pretty sure both HTS and Gumshoe have cheated.
Gumshoe, you should really consider voting for Shape.
HTS, you should really consider voting for Shape.
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Not "cheating" but making posts that heavily make you town that have nothing to do with really playing mafia.
Just vote Shape...................
stop the tunnel.
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On May 04 2016 03:56 Koshi wrote:
Not "cheating" but making posts that heavily make you town that have nothing to do with really playing mafia.
Just vote Shape...................
stop the tunnel.
but I dont think hes scum T_T Btw im putting together a huge time line of day 1-day2
hopefully that will better show why I think shape is town.
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Day 5:
Gumshoe (1) - Half the Sky, Koshi, gumshoe
Half the Sky (1) - Koshi, gumshoe
Shapelog (1) - Koshi, Half the Sky
Not Voted (1) - Shapelog
At the current vote, Gumshoe is slated to be lynched. Gumshoe reached 1 vote first, which breaks the tie.
until deadline.
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On May 04 2016 01:21 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 01:14 Shapelog wrote:
So you flip the fuck out, because I have said something that underminded your defense, while not calling you scum over HTS and voting you off? I mean i latterly just made a point that you could, yet you OMGUS mode me.
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And yes I was wrong in Devil, for fucksake. And I admit that. And maybe I am jackshit at reading you. But, that is just ridiculous. I am in a postilion where I know that either you or Sky is scum, so yes, I am going to be questionable and nick-picky. im sorry, I was more flipping out at koshi T_T I was fairly reasonable with him throughout the argument but his whole "lol your dying no matter what take the moral win" set me off. It was dickish of me to do what I did, I wasnt mad at you it was just sort of a last straw thing cause i was sitting here laughing/dreading at the thought of you coming after me again in identical fashion -_- and when that actually happened I exploded, I didnt mean to insult the memory of your family I was just really angry. in regards to your argument, I would have never trd you like that in the first place / : woulda kept my point about jumping onto the mislynch to myself that is the honest truth, you can be certain I would not have this paticular group at final 4 if I was scum, I havent been able to convince koshi of anything so would never bring him, I wouldnt defend you and I wouldnt go after hts.
No hard feelings. For the most part.
Hmmm, Maybe you are right and I just being a tunneling again.
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Omg, you assholes!!!!
You gave me out of all people the motherfucking Hammer vote. Did you not read the fucking OMGUS Game?!?!?!?!?!?
Alright, I can deal with this, time to reread everything again.
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Ok this is a comprehensive time line centering around the key 4 players of this game( aside from mah self : P). Hts, shape, dyh and sl. It will be broken up into several parts and will cover only day 1 cause that seems to be the crucial time to my eye.
start apirl 19th
83) I make a dumb case on damdred
85) dyh jumps on me "gum is overplaying the jokes"
86) shape jumps on dyh for what he said to me "whats the diffrence between what gum and i did? "
87) Dyh explains in detail to shape why he thinks my push on dam was scummy.
bullshit with sl happens regarding ls,
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so coming out of day 1, hts hasnt done anything, so shes null
dyh lunged at me, and shape questioned him about the lunge, instead of backing off dyh doubled down on his feeling about me. The shape dyh encounter does not read as scum on scum, and as we get to the second day the possibility that it is diminishes further.
day 1 conclusion- three way tension between me dyh and shape, sl is left to his own devices(ie useless), hts is afk.
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day 2 will start with our first relevant parties post april 20th
119: Shape adresses dyh's earlier explanation, disagrees with him, saying he found what I did with dam townie read off as him trying to get the ball rolling so far shapes defining trait if hes scum is disagreeing with his scum budy / : kinda meh for scum on scum.
120: Hts appears, she makes a large general read post and seeds this in there seeing a few arguments about people being underwhelming, its a poor argument to have been made 10 h into the game, but thats just me sl dyh gb based on thier openers are all people that id need to see more content from sl in particlar has both active and laazy town and scum leans
note the sentiment of "i need to see more out of x" regarding dyh and sl, this happens quite a bit and I get the sense she was giving dyh and sl ample opportunities to step up that they just never took. note, she also starts hard pressing tumble as of now, well get back to that much later.
a post pushing Ls/tumble that we will ignore for now, in general well focus on the relations of the key 4 to one another.
124: heres a notable post from shape, half the sky pointed out how what tumble did with shape was scummy, shape had this to say yeah i noticed the fact he was small twisting things as i am reading. the question thing i feel like could come from ether alignment from tumble as his style is to often open up with some questionable questions lol. Usually he gets easier for me to read as the game goes on. he did come back though which is good.
note how he doesnt just pounce on someone we now know to have been a townie, even though the oportunity is almost perfect. Hes even favouring him a bit with his assessment, so far shape has quarreled with one confirmed scum mate over his pounce and refused to outright take the olive branch offered by a supposedly townie hts.
125: Here hts mentions sl and ff as fringe scum, but only really to the ends of lynching LS.
Note, its been
This is Ls’s response
I did notice but if ff doesnt post more chances are hes scum, I just cant read sl so I leave it to others .
This was hts’s response
132
I can buy the point on SL, but Fecalfeast is lazy and has been so as both alignments. I was mafia in Dark Tournament with him - the game which you reference - so I know for a fact his laziness wasn't what made him mafia, it was the manner in which he bussed me after I was (effectively) redchecked. (Mage being the free DT check in that case.) That drew Shining's attention after I flipped not because he was a low-volume poster. As stated, there is still likely Fecalfeast could be mafia but this isn't the reason why. I am going to use other criteria to evaluate him. (NB: Everyone else, I bring this up since LS relies heavily on meta to read people.)
This post is kinda hard to read, throughout it all, she continues to hold onto her scum read of ls, haruanges him for his choice to read ff as scummy for his activity, but says ff is scummy anyways. Notabley sl makes a fringe appearance here, hts agrees with holding off on reading sl, or at least agrees/understands him Ls doing so. which looks pretty bads
134:shape: note in this post, he doesnt really find Ls scummy, doesnt find tumble scummy, just vituperative, seems to tr hts and tt too.
This is a huge amount of casual tring for scum, hes absolutley spoilt for opportunities to pounce but doesnt.
147: Hts confirms she is verbose ethier way XD yall effort =nai confirmed. Note, here we have her attacking gb/defending sl. Pushing him to get off sl even
Hts On GB,
GB's been around here long enough to know that bolding names is the same as voting for them, that's how it's done. So I also don't understand post 142 - I wonder if GB is trying to make something out of nothing (which is scummy). sicklucker explicitly said in post 118 his posts were just for reactions. It is implied that he's gotten nothing out of them (second sentence).
GB I'm curious as to whether you have any reads on anyone else. Your filter exclusively focus on sicklucker, there's been quite a bit of stuff happening with other people.
Currently hts has ff tumble gb ls and shape as potential scum, all town of course. Sl and dyh are apprently coasting in her books at this moment.
178
Big skip for a while from our cast, then this gem shows up in a post from hts
Right now, based on the people I've looked at, GB and LS both look the most suspicious, but I haven't read in depth from page 8 other than the accusations.
I'd also like to see more from sicklucker. IIRC he played a semi-inactive scum game in Drams. We're just north of the halfway point so I do want to see some serious reads soonish.
Updated reads from DYH (yes I know he's generally low volume, but still) and Shapelog would be great.
Seeing as shes scum reading gb, we can assume she trs sl. She asks of them both(dyh sl) to step up again just as the heat starts to pile onto her / : I think at this point it’s been about a day since ethier posted
200 shape
* LS has fucking used almost 25 posts. And roughly about the time I wrote this statement, it is 24 hours in. I wouldn't usually mind LS spam, but he is chewing through them like hot cakes. like for him to try to condense it down.
*GB has posted about SL. And that is still it. I want him to expand a little bit. He also seems to ignore Tumble/someone's post responding about if SL was serious or not. I feel like with the focus he is giving to SL, he should of responded to those (at least IMO)
( : dYH and SL are silent
In this post shape doesnt really hammer at gb and ls, more so asks them to shape up, which isnt how I would expect a despreate scummer to treat potential mislynches, also the last bit is a rather brazen way to name your scum team XD
208
Note this list:
So here's where I stand:
Will lynch
LightningStrike (voting currently)
Needs justification/updated reads - most likely at least one scum in here:
sicklucker
Shapelog
Tictock
DYH
GlowingBear
Dyh and sl havent posted in ages, this list is consistent with that of a scummer who knows they have to win on thier own. It’s large and flexible, she obviously doesn't put her scum mates first but is more than willing to sacrifice them as they dont deserve her aid.
Meanwhile she accuses shape of not having any concret reads
You've made these observations but I don't feel they are adding anything of value to the discussion alignment wise. I've also been the elephant in the room, so to speak....and you've said jack all on me.
This is the wrong frame of mind, day 1 had already become a despreate battle for the final scum, as they likely realized there was a good shot of thier buddies going down fast. Shape’s meandering observations in no way aid the dire scum agenda that we see hts carrying out with ruthless eficiency.
210
Sl finally wakes up,
Dont want to lynch Ls hes so cute and trying hard
Ticktock is looking really strong
I do want to lynch koshi but hes probably town. Not sure I can do another koshi game
Gum probably town from what I know about him
FF was not even in the top 3 people for wasting posts early so im not sure why hes being attacked.
Hts seems over defensive but maybe thats just the koshi factor
wish I could read shapelogs posts but luckily he does not have one
I want to lynch gb a lil for this posts
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Notice the snideness direct toward shape? Also he remarks hts is fishy, but gives her the critical benefit of the doubt. A recurring trend this game from hts and dyh regarding eachother.
214-216 dyh appears and hard trs/allies with hts while accusing shape
Caught up. I'll filter dive tomorrow to really start sorting people before the deadline.
HtS is my top town read. I really liked how she pursued her scumleans on LS and TW. She kept talking to them. She wasn't trying to convince them that they were scum, but she was trying to get more information out of them. Implies to me that she cares more about solving than displaying her stances.
Shape is the person I'm most suspicious of, doesn't seem to be doing much and his posts are overly self-conscious, especially for someone that hasn't been seriously pressured yet.
I'm a little worried about Damdred. He was very quick to help Koshi against HtS and seemed like he dropped the pressure as soon as Koshi(who I'm leaning town on) wasn't leading the charge anymore .
Day 2 end.
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So what did we learn? Well we know scum (dyh sl) was inactive for a period of at least 12 hours.
What would that would mean for the final scummer? They would have to start considering how to win hours before the first lynch even occured. To do that they would need one thing above all else, aggression. Trs are the enemy of a solo scummer, every townie trd is someone you cant kill.
So now that we have an idea of this despreate scummer, lets try to match shape and hts.
Shape was lethargic, didnt seem panicked, leisurely asked questions, was reluctant to scum read anyone generally did not take opportunities to pounce on townies when they were offered to him (124 bieng the key example) shape may have played deplorably, but he was not playing like a man confronted with the possibility of having to ensure 4 mislynches on his own.
Hts on the other hand, was a mad woman
sicklucker
Shapelog
Tictock
DYH
GlowingBear
Damdred
Tumble
Ff
Damdred
over 9 people came under her fire from her on day 1. She was aggresively hesistant to tr and often backtracked on those trs later (in the case of ff and fedie)
THIS is the kind of way I would expect scum to play without a team.
Also of note, dyh comes back after ages, and goes after his relatively active supposed scum mate(shape)? Makes zero sense.
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Day 3 april 21
230
Note here how hts questions sl
sicklucker, I went through your post and I have a few questions
(1) Why is Tictock strong?
(2) LS has faked his meta as mafia (which you allude to as cute) in Cell Mafia. Give me something more concrete as to why he's town
(3) Shapelog hasn't made concrete reads - that should tell you something. His filter isn't very long...
(4) Expand on GB's scum meta of pushing you - I've played with you both quite a bit and I'm completely unaware of it.
Note the tone of her questioning? It sounds more like shes trying to get him to expand his reads then try to understand his alignment.
Compare that to this line of questioning towards tumble
Why is LS town?
Aside from (potentially) myself, and Shape as mentioned, as scumreads, Tumbleweed, why are you nottownreading or leaning some of the others? Particularly Damdred, Koshi and Tictock and the content that they've produced?
At the very least I'm curious to hear on this. Are you actually scumreading anyone else?
Additionally, are you suggesting that how I am scumreading you is coming from a scum point of view?
Shes using questions here to set it up so that tumble is ethier someone she can push as scum(your scum for just red reading me) or someone she can push around (why do you think ls is town?)
241
Here we see shape call dyh null, which seems to further reduce the odds of them bussing each other as we know dyh wasnt a rb or anything, so it’s not like his life was worth that much more than shapes and shape was bieng more active than him.
We also have him scum reading sl pretty clearly. Again seems wierd for scum on scum / :
242
Here we have hts defending dyh while still leaving herself the option to kill him
The focus is "doesn't seem to be doing much" - implied is that he's not taking stances on whoever he's mentioning. He's not doing anything with the words he's saying. You can argue a few points against others in this game for the same thing but multiple people now had called out Shapelog for having no stances on people. Nothing committal until this last list post.
That said I'm not totally off DYH, like I said before commenting on others he hasn't mentioned yet would help me be able to better read him and weigh him against the other low volume posters for this game.
299
Here we have hts still trying to push ls, even though the sl train is in full swing
312 in the midst of this sl lynch, dyh brings the focus back onto shape
@the rest of you shapes read on me is seriusly suspicius
How the fuck is this scum on scum, sl is dying, so dyh solution is to refocus the lynch on his other scum mate? Da fack koshi?
317 dyh showing a willingness to adhere to hts’s LS lynch if possible
321 seeing the writing on the wall, hts votes sl but only once it became clear that he was the clear lynch for the day and she made it abundantly clear that she would switch to LS if the chance came
“Since no one wants to lynch ls then im going to go ahead and switch to sicklucker”
329
Sick lucker appears and starts to distance from hts
351 hts asks sl to answer her light questions from earlier, perhaps throwing him a line.
Vote log bonus posts
30 vote thread 5 min before the flip, with 5 votes ff, shape switches onto a clear mislynch. Wow. in what world does scum do that
33 with no reasoning, sl switches off of hts onto koshi.
End of day
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So what did we learn this time? Well, we see hts asking questions of sl with a tone unlike any other she fields this game, she seems to genuinely want to know what hes thinking, and as hes about to be lynched, she prompts him again to try and answer the questions.
We also can clearly see he was not her lynch of choice, she landed on him likely because she felt the alternative was to look super scummy and of course she got off him at the first opportunity.
We also see that sl didnt push her until she made the decicion to vote him, so his say in the matter is tied mostly to her actions, which are as I said rather unwholesome / :
As for dyh, with one scum mate going down (sl) why redirect the lynch onto your other scum mate? Makes zero fucking sense.
Shape himself made the amazing blunder of hoping onto a mislynch at the last second even though it was secured, something that is completely irrational from a scum view.
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So to sumarize here are the key points
Day 1: we saw shape/me vs dyh. The conflict hinted at nithier of us bieng scum together.
Day 2: we rationilized that whoever the final scummer was (shape or hts) they likely were already bieng forced to consider how to carry the game as thier scum mates were no where to be seen.
Hts attacked rapidly and effectively, tense all the while, as opposed to shape who gave out lackdaisacal observations without a care in the world. One had countless lynches set up and pounced at every turn, the other blatantly refused opportunities to chase. Seems pretty clear who fits the profile / : also hts had already started to give sl and dyh some slack here.
We also have dyh tring hts hard (as he should) and going after shape even though hes far more active than him and shape hadnt been attacking him at all, makes no sense / :
Day 3: Here we see hts throw sl the rope in the form of kindly questions we never really see her direct anywhere else, she also seems to forget dyh exists for most of the day, even defending him from koshi at one point 242
We see dyh trying to redirect town onto shape off of sl, which makes no bloody sense XD why devote your efforts to killing one scumbuddy over another?
We also have hts only voting sl once he had become the dominant wagon, and of course sls response is to weakly distance himself from her. So weakly that he even unvoted her for “reasons” moments before the flip.
Meanwhile we had shape jumping off sl onto ff even though ff was already dead, which is just so derp, I cant even comprehend how you think this guy is scum koshi XD
Seriusly, shape be town, hts be scum
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Sigh
##unvote
##vote HTS
This is really final. The case is ok. Things point towards shape. Things point toward HTS. Guess I follow the modconfirmed townie.
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Wowie,
That case.....
Wow.
Gumivrgian has now been promoted to Sugergum, in honor of NC's High Sugar gum tree count.
Still rereading but wow......
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On May 04 2016 07:03 Koshi wrote:
Sigh
##unvote
##vote HTS
This is really final. The case is ok. Things point towards shape. Things point toward HTS. Guess I follow the modconfirmed townie.
catching a scum like hts is never easy / : her points are well thought out even when they're blatant lies. but what we know of day 1 shows a scenario that shape simply does not fit, and I know for a fact that at Lylo the super townie looking fucker is scum just as often as the afker (and honestly shapes not even that bad here)
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Hmmm, The confrimation Bias (HTS Scum and Shapes town) or you just slipped that u have TMI....
Currently hts has ff tumble gb ls and shape as potential scum, all town of course. Sl and dyh are apprently coasting in her books at this moment.
Only I haven't flipped, therefore, even if you find me town to the dickens, shouldn't I be excluded from that list?
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I don't believe in hts mafia today because I was on her ass all the other days. Why am I alive? I think I would go:
44% shape
28% gum
28% hts
I am pretty sure it is shape. But w.e I can't change the outcome.
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Urg,
And what is worse, Scum!Gum doesn't actually have to answer the above.
Town!gum a course might not be here.
Between the two, Sky really does look like it now (even if most of Sugargum's filter is contraindications to a degree)
Hmmmm,
And then, the one sky made as well, actually fits this quite well...
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On May 04 2016 07:20 Shapelog wrote:Hmmm, The confrimation Bias (HTS Scum and Shapes town) or you just slipped that u have TMI.... Show nested quote +Currently hts has ff tumble gb ls and shape as potential scum, all town of course. Sl and dyh are apprently coasting in her books at this moment. Only I haven't flipped, therefore, even if you find me town to the dickens, shouldn't I be excluded from that list?
I basically think your town 100 percent at this point, the hop onto ff and dyh attacking you have made that clear to me for a while, I don't need to be scum to know that your town here shape / : and as I said, I wouldn't be tring you if I was scum given Koshis eagerness to kill you and the ease with which I could make up some bulsshit to kill you.
My sin is certainty (a crime I often make as town ) not treachery.
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On May 04 2016 07:27 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 07:20 Shapelog wrote:Hmmm, The confrimation Bias (HTS Scum and Shapes town) or you just slipped that u have TMI.... Currently hts has ff tumble gb ls and shape as potential scum, all town of course. Sl and dyh are apprently coasting in her books at this moment. Only I haven't flipped, therefore, even if you find me town to the dickens, shouldn't I be excluded from that list? I basically think your town 100 percent at this point, the hop onto ff and dyh attacking you have made that clear to me for a while, I don't need to be scum to know that your town here shape / : and as I said, I wouldn't be tring you if I was scum given Koshis eagerness to kill you and the ease with which I could make up some bulsshit to kill you. My sin is certainty (a crime I often make as town ) not treachery.
Yeah,
My sin is that I must Win with Style
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Vote: Gumshoe
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