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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12973 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Damdred
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
Day I hammered ff to save sl XD Day 2 I went after gb, reluctant to kill dyh Day 3 I killed gb Day 4 I had scum between tic and hts, both wrong. Day 5 killed hts. I am the true scum MVP Gg wp Koshi, I was a dick to you and you were right the whole time, you get a free sheep next time we play | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On May 04 2016 07:35 Damdred wrote: That vote d1 by Snape was so bad though like horrid. Idk I think the biggest thing I can say to people is don't get so confirm bias people are wrong and do scummy things as town. You have to step back and consider them as scum. Shape played well enough for the win but he was super easy to catch which isn't a negative to him he did exactly what he should have that was pretty much the theme of this game, even I could tell the way people were thinking and overthinking the game, I remember geript saying something along the lines of generic town tells and being able to figure out who was staying under the shadows etc. Daniele was particularly bad with this, but GB/gumshoe/Fidei/Damdred, I also saw several instances of confirmation bias. I really got the impression that in general, town never really worked well with each other, and I'd have to agree only Koshi really saw what was happening. When I saw Dani pushing Tictock day 4, I really wanted to grab her and scream in her face WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING, I really think she went full out 100% tinfoil on him and in general, she just overthought the game. Obviously I can read Dani like a champ having observed her closely for months, she brought me to TL, she coached me in newbie 14 as the cop and all that, I can always sort her out whether she plays town/anti-town/great or poor mafia play, but I only came to know she was quitting TL night 2, if I'd known sooner I'd have signed up with her again. :/ That said, I do also want to mention she hasn't had fun on TL for quite some time - and her work has been a major part of the issue the last several games. she made it pretty clear the 48 hour thing is pretty unsustainable for her now since she changed jobs in february, that combined with her experience as either alignment, regardless of outcome....yeah. and she only signed up for this game partially because she was on the tail end of the holiday. her overall participation this year compared to last should really tell the story, it just hasn't been the same from RL alone. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On May 04 2016 07:42 gumshoe wrote: Wow, I was wrong every single cycle, Day I hammered ff to save sl XD Day 2 I went after gb, reluctant to kill dyh Day 3 I killed gb Day 4 I had scum between tic and hts, both wrong. Day 5 killed hts. I am the true scum MVP Gg wp Koshi, I was a dick to you and you were right the whole time, you get a free sheep next time we play Instead never fucking ever swear on people their lives to get out of a lynch or get your way with the lynch. It is fucking pathetic. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5188 Posts
 Idk, the game was kinda meh from my POV (not solving etc, but otherstuff like tones and stuff. Like people being questiony about if i was jailed in RL or not. Just little things like that kinda made me go huh?) but it wasn't too bad. Hope life treats you well sky, you will always be my first Host! | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Everybody townread the guy. So fucking insane. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On May 04 2016 07:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I hope that for the future, people don't give quite as much credit to bussing This a thousand times. Vote count analysis is certainly an important part of deciding who is mafia. But it's absolutely silly to rely on it as key analysis. This is not the first game where a rather lazy scum performance (sorry Shape!) gets a free pass because players are not willing to look past voting actions on a very surface level. If you want to be good at this game, you have to collect many different types of evidence on a player, weigh them together, and come to a conclusion. This is hard. But it's the only way to be good or accurate. Using vote-counts as a crutch for doing thorough analysis is how these types of games happen for town. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On May 04 2016 07:44 LightningStrike wrote: gum you probably should follow me early game and koshi late game I think following period will be a solid strat. I could've followed a rock and probs done better. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5188 Posts
On May 04 2016 07:45 Koshi wrote: I fucking said a million times over this entire game that Shape was possible mafia. From D1 to D5. Everybody townread the guy. So fucking insane. Hey, U were right right? and lynched scum this game right? Yeah, And broke that curse of yours. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On May 04 2016 07:38 Damdred wrote: Idk why hts should be pissed at me when I reversed my read before I died. Sucks people leave but if you don't get enjoyment out of it and can't post that's just what it is. Hope life is better hts I need to clarify that. I don't know when she wrote that formal farewell exactly....but I spoke with her shortly before dinner as she GGed out - she was more forgiving of you Damdred, seeing as it was day 1 and reads are generally in the shitter day 1. Of all the players in the game she's had a good history of playing with....she's the most upset with two people: Fidei and herself. Fidei is someone that normally she works excellently with when both are town. Unfortunately that didn't happen this game but the other thing as HTS said - Fidei has also never seen HTS play badly as town, and this is a classic example of one of her worst games. At least according to her. Personally considering how easily I bluesniped low-key players on the same scumteam with him, I'm a bit surprised he had to conclude it was HTS who bluesniped him. I would also like to add that HTS has never been mislynched as town in her 7 years of forum mafia, not this site (1.5 years), not anywhere. This is the first time that has ever happened. I think by the time she GGed out, she didn't care as much but one of the things she told me before she left is part of the reason she is able to save herself as VT is that if she can figure out who the townies are and why she's getting scumread, she's usually able to demonstrate herself as town, it has always been one of her best traits I think. This game however, there was such significant confirmation bias, she felt hardly anyone was listening to her during the course of the game, and as she said herself, hardly anyone on town was listening to each other. The only other time she could have gotten lynched on TL was in that huge Carol game, she was so anti-town that game it wasn't funny, but thankfully she was blue, and claimed with her checks at the right time. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On May 04 2016 07:49 Shapelog wrote: Hey, U were right right? and lynched scum this game right? Yeah, And broke that curse of yours. Pff. Not yet. You are in for a bunch of misslynches when I get my mojo back though. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On May 04 2016 07:45 Koshi wrote: I fucking said a million times over this entire game that Shape was possible mafia. From D1 to D5. Everybody townread the guy. So fucking insane. Really really wish I signed up for this game....I had a DYH/Shapelog/gumshoe scumteam Day 1. Tumblewood did well with his vig shot too. Well done there. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On May 04 2016 07:52 NocturneMage wrote: I need to clarify that. I don't know when she wrote that formal farewell exactly....but I spoke with her shortly before dinner as she GGed out - she was more forgiving of you Damdred, seeing as it was day 1 and reads are generally in the shitter day 1. Of all the players in the game she's had a good history of playing with....she's the most upset with two people: Fidei and herself. Fidei is someone that normally she works excellently with when both are town. Unfortunately that didn't happen this game but the other thing as HTS said - Fidei has also never seen HTS play badly as town, and this is a classic example of one of her worst games. At least according to her. Personally considering how easily I bluesniped low-key players on the same scumteam with him, I'm a bit surprised he had to conclude it was HTS who bluesniped him. I would also like to add that HTS has never been mislynched as town in her 7 years of forum mafia, not this site (1.5 years), not anywhere. This is the first time that has ever happened. I think by the time she GGed out, she didn't care as much but one of the things she told me before she left is part of the reason she is able to save herself as VT is that if she can figure out who the townies are and why she's getting scumread, she's usually able to demonstrate herself as town, it has always been one of her best traits I think. This game however, there was such significant confirmation bias, she felt hardly anyone was listening to her during the course of the game, and as she said herself, hardly anyone on town was listening to each other. The only other time she could have gotten lynched on TL was in that huge Carol game, she was so anti-town that game it wasn't funny, but thankfully she was blue, and claimed with her checks at the right time. Town listened to each other. They all agreed on townreading Shape. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
This is now officially my last post in this thread. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5188 Posts
On May 04 2016 07:57 Koshi wrote: Town listened to each other. They all agreed on townreading Shape. Funny enough, If only If I Claimed scum faster, Gum would of been MLed instead of HTS o_0 | ||
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